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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 11:02:56 GMT
Console players are vastly superior than the so-called "PC Master Race". In truth I can do almost everything on my Xbox One and PS4 that I can do on my PC, and I can play Blu-Rays on my Xbox One and PS4, which is something I can't do on my PC, and I don't have waste money and time on worrying if my PC is up to spec. Plus I absolutely HATE playing with a keyboard and a mouse for me it is no fun and just a huge pain. While I like some of the mods for Fallout 4 and Skyrim Special Edition I can play the games just fine without them. It is possible to play blu rays on your PC if you have the right codecs for your media player (or if not you can download VLC, it's free and plays all files) .. provided your pc has a disc drive. And while I prefer to use a controller for most things, there are some games where I'd much rather keyboard and mouse. I.e the ME trilogy I find is much more enjoyable on pc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 11:26:14 GMT
In truth I really don't understand this religion based on platforms. Different games requires different platforms. I'm both a PC AND a console gamer. I play on PC when I satisfy my historical strategy need (Crusader Kings 2, Total War, Europa Universalis, Caesar). I play on console when I'm playing the typical AAA thid person adventure game because I just enjoy the controller there. There are no PC-master race or console peasant, there are only gamers with different tastes and desires. Platforms are only tools used to satisfy that desire. Each tool is better suited to satisfy a particular gaming desire.
This entire discussion about PC-master race and console peasant is just a toxic talk that need to die soon because determining the worth of someone based on what platform he/she plays on is utter idiocy.
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Post by Cyberzombie on Jan 4, 2017 11:51:31 GMT
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 4, 2017 12:45:34 GMT
i ve always been a pc gamer, but played only 4-6 games the last 20 years. I m an old fuck and i ll never bother getting used to controllers, fuck controllers. I played consoles with friends, never could stand the latency impression i got. Maybe it s not the case anymore ? Sure was in 2010. Also i wldnt felt free with console hardcopies and even monthly access fee ! Wtf, it s allready hard to convince myself to pay for a game
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 4, 2017 14:04:56 GMT
In truth I really don't understand this religion based on platforms. Different games requires different platforms. I'm both a PC AND a console gamer. I play on PC when I satisfy my historical strategy need (Crusader Kings 2, Total War, Europa Universalis, Caesar). I play on console when I'm playing the typical AAA thid person adventure game because I just enjoy the controller there. There are no PC-master race or console peasant, there are only gamers with different tastes and desires. Platforms are only tools used to satisfy that desire. Each tool is better suited to satisfy a particular gaming desire. This entire discussion about PC-master race and console peasant is just a toxic talk that need to die soon because determining the worth of someone based on what platform he/she plays on is utter idiocy. The games I play require PC. They always have. I don't care what you play, but I know that cross-platform shit has a negative impact on consumers. Be it fucking exclusives, bad ports, fucking controller aimbot on PC or delayed patches because of Sony's and Microsoft's shitty business practice. To name just a few. Seeing Andromeda being in that shit cross-platform category makes me almost want to not buy it - I fully expect some bullshit to come from there. Evolve was a masterpiece example of x-platform crap. But it's Mass Effect after all, and it kinda worked out last time so...
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Post by SalMasRac on Jan 4, 2017 14:52:57 GMT
Console players are vastly superior than the so-called "PC Master Race". In truth I can do almost everything on my Xbox One and PS4 that I can do on my PC, and I can play Blu-Rays on my Xbox One and PS4, which is something I can't do on my PC, and I don't have waste money and time on worrying if my PC is up to spec. Plus I absolutely HATE playing with a keyboard and a mouse for me it is no fun and just a huge pain. While I like some of the mods for Fallout 4 and Skyrim Special Edition I can play the games just fine without them. What makes console players inherently superior? Sounds a bit racist buddy. The ability to play Blu-Rays isn't a console-exclusive capability. You can plug a controller into your PC. Choosing to play without mods is not an advantage. So what exactly were you trying to say anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 15:07:45 GMT
Console players are vastly superior than the so-called "PC Master Race". In truth I can do almost everything on my Xbox One and PS4 that I can do on my PC, and I can play Blu-Rays on my Xbox One and PS4, which is something I can't do on my PC, and I don't have waste money and time on worrying if my PC is up to spec. Plus I absolutely HATE playing with a keyboard and a mouse for me it is no fun and just a huge pain. While I like some of the mods for Fallout 4 and Skyrim Special Edition I can play the games just fine without them. What makes console players inherently superior? Sounds a bit racist buddy.The ability to play Blu-Rays isn't a console-exclusive capability. You can plug a controller into your PC. Choosing to play without mods is not an advantage. So what exactly were you trying to say anyway. Is deciding what platform you play on a race?
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 4, 2017 15:51:06 GMT
What makes console players inherently superior? Sounds a bit racist buddy.The ability to play Blu-Rays isn't a console-exclusive capability. You can plug a controller into your PC. Choosing to play without mods is not an advantage. So what exactly were you trying to say anyway. Is deciding what platform you play on a race? yes, but we can forgive your choices peasants !
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 4, 2017 16:00:14 GMT
I wondered if anyone would comment on the absurdity of the PC limitations.... Can't play BluRay on PC......
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Jan 4, 2017 16:14:46 GMT
Still waiting for MEA for the Nintendo GameCube. I'm tired of buying new stuff.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 4, 2017 16:19:54 GMT
Still waiting for MEA for the Nintendo GameCube. I'm tired of buying new stuff. You're not helping the economy "big spender"!
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Post by spacev3gan on Jan 4, 2017 20:25:48 GMT
Well, I don't like the dichotomy between between PC and consoles. I think consoles are great, MicroSoft and Sony are doing a decent job and at times I honestly feel like having one for the console exclusives alone (such as Destiny). But for me it is not worth to buy such a device to use it occasionally. If I had more time and money, I probably would have both current gen consoles and a PC. But you know, things are not that easy.
My reasoning for choosing a PC is that I like to play games, chat, call people, listen to music, surf on the net, watch porn and complain on BSN all in one machine, just alt-tabbing between tasks. I just love the utility offered by the PC. Besides that, the investment between a general purpose PC (which most people have) and an average gaming PC is not that much. Many people out there have an i5 or even an i3 which is more than capable of 60 fps gaming, yet they use it for Netflixing or whatever. Just add a $170 graphics card and a $40 power supply and you have a gaming PC more potent than any console. For me that just kills any reasoning to have a gaming console. Unless, of course, money and time were not limiting factors.
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Post by Aragorn89 on Jan 4, 2017 22:57:45 GMT
I've always been a PC gamer myself. I never could get used to controllers for some reason. I've played some games with my little brother when I visit him on his PS4, just couldn't get the hang of using a controller for everything. I have always been a mouse and keyboard guy and don't really see that changing anytime soon either. I'm also an old fart and set in my ways so that doesn't help either!
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Post by SalMasRac on Jan 5, 2017 4:20:59 GMT
I wondered if anyone would comment on the absurdity of the PC limitations.... Can't play BluRay on PC...... LOLEdit: huh, bbcode for size is not working... Perhaps I am foruming in my mind's past? ... ... ................................................ (you CAN play Blu-Rays on a Blu-Ray player, which is likely hooked up to your TV where the console would be...)
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Jan 5, 2017 7:39:52 GMT
I wondered if anyone would comment on the absurdity of the PC limitations.... Can't play BluRay on PC...... LOLEdit: huh, bbcode for size is not working... Perhaps I am foruming in my mind's past? ... ... ................................................ (you CAN play Blu-Rays on a Blu-Ray player, which is likely hooked up to your TV where the console would be...)Not* bragging here but my ALIENSware 17 has a Blu-Ray player, which is why I bought it when there were many cheaper non-optical drive gaming notebooks available (remember, I don't have Internet access year round).
Number of Blu-Rays watched on it in the last two years: 4.00
Chance of my comp meeting ME:A's system requirements: About 12%
*And by "Not," I mean "Totally"
Update. I just wanted to post gifs.
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Post by Cypher on Jan 5, 2017 7:54:02 GMT
Console players are vastly superior than the so-called "PC Master Race". In truth I can do almost everything on my Xbox One and PS4 that I can do on my PC, and I can play Blu-Rays on my Xbox One and PS4, which is something I can't do on my PC, and I don't have waste money and time on worrying if my PC is up to spec. Plus I absolutely HATE playing with a keyboard and a mouse for me it is no fun and just a huge pain. While I like some of the mods for Fallout 4 and Skyrim Special Edition I can play the games just fine without them. I'm going on five years without a PC upgrade. That's a console generation. No one has to worry about whether or not their PC is up to spec since anything released since 2011 will run games on par with the current consoles at minimum. The cons against PC gaming come in getting the parts together, not having a singular warranty, and maybe having to fiddle with graphical settings if the auto-detect doesn't get you the performance you expected. Games use multiple control inputs these days and you can play blu-ray's on a PC too, so that's not a con. On the flip side, games are cheaper on average when buying brand new, games go on sale more often, and you don't have to pay to play online, so you recoup your cost compared to a console, especially if you buy a lot of games brand new. There's give or take on both sides. There's a $200 premium on PC gaming to match or exceed console performance because units aren't subsidized and assembled wholesale, but lower prices on games and whatnot equalize things to where it's nowhere near as bad or expensive as people make it out to be just because the loudest people are spending $1200 on something that really won't need to be upgraded for nearly a decade.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 5, 2017 14:07:18 GMT
My HTPC, built by yours truly in 2012, has played many BluRays. My g75vw lappy plays dem BluRays. My gaming PC would if I put a drive in it. That said, 90% of my BluRays are played by the standalone player. I never wanted to wear out my player on the PS3 from watching movies... If I am gonna trash that drive, it will be from excessive gaming. The PC plays most fine, but there can be issues, and a dumb standalone player is cheap. It comes down to the money you have at the time. If you can afford separate pieces for each, you get best results. The cheapest solution is close between a basic gaming PC and a modern console. Either can do what you need. I am hoping that the "Steam Machine" idea takes off, and that we can simply build our own "console" in the near future. That would take some cooperation between Sony, Microsoft and the manufacturers, but it is what we ought to do. Likely why it will never take off
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Post by Cypher on Jan 5, 2017 23:37:47 GMT
In truth I really don't understand this religion based on platforms. Different games requires different platforms. I'm both a PC AND a console gamer. I play on PC when I satisfy my historical strategy need (Crusader Kings 2, Total War, Europa Universalis, Caesar). I play on console when I'm playing the typical AAA thid person adventure game because I just enjoy the controller there. There are no PC-master race or console peasant, there are only gamers with different tastes and desires. Platforms are only tools used to satisfy that desire. Each tool is better suited to satisfy a particular gaming desire. This entire discussion about PC-master race and console peasant is just a toxic talk that need to die soon because determining the worth of someone based on what platform he/she plays on is utter idiocy. The games I play require PC. They always have. I don't care what you play, but I know that cross-platform shit has a negative impact on consumers. Be it fucking exclusives, bad ports, fucking controller aimbot on PC or delayed patches because of Sony's and Microsoft's shitty business practice. To name just a few. Seeing Andromeda being in that shit cross-platform category makes me almost want to not buy it - I fully expect some bullshit to come from there. Evolve was a masterpiece example of x-platform crap. But it's Mass Effect after all, and it kinda worked out last time so... The games you play don't require PC, they require a specific form of input that. while it works on consoles, isn't all that popular since it wasn't traditionally in use. Any other reasoning on either side of the argument is clock full of melodrama.
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Post by Cypher on Jan 5, 2017 23:46:42 GMT
My HTPC, built by yours truly in 2012, has played many BluRays. My g75vw lappy plays dem BluRays. My gaming PC would if I put a drive in it. That said, 90% of my BluRays are played by the standalone player. I never wanted to wear out my player on the PS3 from watching movies... If I am gonna trash that drive, it will be from excessive gaming. The PC plays most fine, but there can be issues, and a dumb standalone player is cheap. It comes down to the money you have at the time. If you can afford separate pieces for each, you get best results. The cheapest solution is close between a basic gaming PC and a modern console. Either can do what you need. I am hoping that the "Steam Machine" idea takes off, and that we can simply build our own "console" in the near future. That would take some cooperation between Sony, Microsoft and the manufacturers, but it is what we ought to do. Likely why it will never take off Steam Machines are dead. HTPC gaming setups, however, aren't. The Zotac Zbox EN1070 is smaller than a PS4, has an i5 processor, and a GTX 1070 inside Smaller sized setups are taking off now that iTX motherboards, miTX graphics cards, and slim, consolized PC cases are becoming more prevalent and that the laptop iterations of GPUs and processors are essentially the desktop pieces with lower voltages and slightly lower clock speeds to curb the heat production. Companies are tossing out console sized, all in one gaming PCs and it will only increase from there. Windows 10 is essentially an Xbox already, and several Playstation exclusive games are on PC as well, and that number will only continue to grow once more Japanese publishing and developing houses follow Sega and Namco's lead by bringing their games to Steam. So essentially, PC gaming is already becoming a cross between what's traditionally PC gaming while gaining Xbox and Playstation stuff; no need for Sony/Microsoft/Valve cooperation when things are converging that way already.
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Post by Cyonan on Jan 5, 2017 23:57:36 GMT
In general I expect any game that's multi-platform to work decently well on both and for the most part they do in my opinion. In recent memory the only game I can think of off the top of my head which I had complaints about the PC port of was Dragon Age Inquisition, where I felt like the tactical camera was blatantly designed for twin thumbsticks and while usable on mouse/keyboard it wasn't a good feel.
Really though, as fun as it is to make PC master race jokes no one platform of gamer is "superior" to another and the whole notion that somebody is better based on what platform they play on is ridiculously absurd.
Personally I prefer PC and keep a Xbox 360 controller handy if I ever run into a game that plays better on controller and thanks to USB ports being a thing it's all very easy to set up. I like just how much I can tinker with my games and my operating system(even if Windows is being a bit more restrictive these days, it's still better than any console OS). That and I have pretty much unlimited backwards compatibility. Any old game that has issues running I can either tweak until it works or find something like a DOS emulator to make it work.
Of course if somebody prefers console, all the more power to them. Some people prefer the simplicity of consoles "put in disk and play" because no tweaking means not having to spend 2 hours making sure a game actually runs properly first.
In the end just play on whatever you enjoy.
Plus the fact that I work from home and need my PC so my top of the line PC upgrades every few years count as a "work expense" come income tax time also helps =P
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 6, 2017 10:12:19 GMT
The games I play require PC. They always have. I don't care what you play, but I know that cross-platform shit has a negative impact on consumers. Be it fucking exclusives, bad ports, fucking controller aimbot on PC or delayed patches because of Sony's and Microsoft's shitty business practice. To name just a few. Seeing Andromeda being in that shit cross-platform category makes me almost want to not buy it - I fully expect some bullshit to come from there. Evolve was a masterpiece example of x-platform crap. But it's Mass Effect after all, and it kinda worked out last time so... The games you play don't require PC, they require a specific form of input that. while it works on consoles, isn't all that popular since it wasn't traditionally in use. Any other reasoning on either side of the argument is clock full of melodrama. I rephrase: I require m+kb (rarely flightstick) for the games I play. I always have... (Attach rest of original rant as rquired)
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Post by Spectr61 on Jan 6, 2017 23:39:23 GMT
What Cyonan said.
As to the preferred platform and "master race" -
Do you even macro, bro?
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Post by derrame on Jan 8, 2017 15:31:56 GMT
with a powerful pc you can handle any crappy port, most of the times there are updates and patches for those kind of products in pc you have 60 + fpss 2k 4k mods sweetfx/reshade tweak,s, fixes more and better lighting and particle effects
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Post by XCPTNL on Jan 8, 2017 18:58:27 GMT
I can understand people being more cautious than they should be anyways with PC versions after last year which had so many AAA titles being broken and sometimes even unplayable at launch. On the other hand - and this might seem very strange to some if not most people - as far as PC versions go I have actually more faith in EA titles than in titles from other big publishers. As far as Mass Effect goes I expect there to be bugs, probably even a lot of them. But not just on PC. And with the Frostbite-Engine I also expect the game to perform very good overall on PC at the same time.
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Post by Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3 on Jan 8, 2017 19:12:28 GMT
I won't buy any of the newer consoles,simply because they constantly become outdated by new ones at a ridiculous rate,while I can just simply update my PC's graphics card for a lot cheaper and have WAY better performance,instead of having a half dozen consoles collecting dust.I also have an xbox controller for the games I prefer to use it with.So I see it as a win/win for PC.
I understand they have some console exclusive games,but I find they usually aren't what I like anyway.So.I will remain a PC user
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