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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Aug 18, 2018 17:54:21 GMT
^ yes, constant 60fps on solo is a problem occasionally. I had a nice solo fail just now, wave 5. Was flawless until that point, lols. Didn't even use one of my 9 rockets  Pretty sure I'll get this one though, and will be a template for future successes. I had the sound glitch, where the announcer is silent except for talking about objectives. Weird... On-host solo problems, le sigh. It was kinda nice, but a distraction nevertheless. Edit: To have some success and better learn the mechanics (I am bad with Acolyte), I decided to do a Gold solo. Only thing I said to myself was no rockets. 34:15, too much kiting and freelancing, used 3 ops packs and had to gel twice. It was an ok No-Rocket solo I suppose. Fairly relaxing after Platinum lol. |
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Post by burningcherry on Oct 26, 2018 11:50:07 GMT
Drell AdeptThe_Doctor46N7 | 20 October 2018 | 18:17 | White | Cerberus | Venom (v) modded objectives Did this run last month,but didn't post it. I see some things here I don't understand, starting at 5:20: Banshees "activate" and then "deactivate" after 1-3 jumps. I understand that you cause them to do it this fast in some way, but how exactly and why it works? Why did you nuke that Banshee at 8:18? |
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Post by antsu on Oct 26, 2018 12:21:34 GMT
Drell AdeptThe_Doctor46N7 | 20 October 2018 | 18:17 | White | Cerberus | Venom (v) modded objectives Did this run last month,but didn't post it. I see some things here I don't understand, starting at 5:20: Banshees "activate" and then "deactivate" after 1-3 jumps. I understand that you cause them to do it this fast in some way, but how exactly and why it works? Why did you nuke that Banshee at 8:18? You can stop them if you do enough damage. Required damage threshold goes hand in hand with player amount. In solo it is less than in duo etc. |
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Post by larsdt on Oct 26, 2018 12:59:26 GMT
I see some things here I don't understand, starting at 5:20: Banshees "activate" and then "deactivate" after 1-3 jumps. I understand that you cause them to do it this fast in some way, but how exactly and why it works? Why did you nuke that Banshee at 8:18? You can stop them if you do enough damage. Required damage threshold goes hand in hand with player amount. In solo it is less than in duo etc. Don't know if I understand the question correctly but in my experience their movement is not totally random. There are cartain places on the maps (like the corner of win on White) where you can predict their behaviour, at least to some extent. Giant has a couple of places like this which I usually exploit in my solos. The same goes for the wall jumping i.e. you don't want to hang around the ammo box in the LZ on Giant since they always jump through that wall. |
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 26, 2018 13:29:45 GMT
Drell AdeptThe_Doctor46N7 | 20 October 2018 | 18:17 | White | Cerberus | Venom (v) modded objectives Did this run last month,but didn't post it. I see some things here I don't understand, starting at 5:20: Banshees "activate" and then "deactivate" after 1-3 jumps. I understand that you cause them to do it this fast in some way, but how exactly and why it works? Why did you nuke that Banshee at 8:18? Like antsu mentioned,the banshees have a damage treshold,which means that you can stop them if you do enough damage in 5 or 8 seconds(don't remember anymore).This threshold scales with the players on the pitch.On solo you can stop them with less damage.You need to deal more damage on duos,much more on trios and even more on a full team game.Some characters can stop the banshee fast even with 3 other players,like GI,AVS etc.I am in the gym right now and can't check the video,but probably i nuked that banshee just for speed,since it is a speedrun.I will say with certainty later.  |
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 26, 2018 14:39:37 GMT
Drell AdeptThe_Doctor46N7 | 20 October 2018 | 18:17 | White | Cerberus | Venom (v) modded objectives Did this run last month,but didn't post it. I see some things here I don't understand, starting at 5:20: Banshees "activate" and then "deactivate" after 1-3 jumps. I understand that you cause them to do it this fast in some way, but how exactly and why it works? Why did you nuke that Banshee at 8:18? Now i checked the video and at 8:18 wasn't only a basnhee it was a killstreak,and yes i did it for speed.Vs cerb on 5,8 and 9 wave if you want to do a speedrun the missiles are must. |
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 26, 2018 15:04:54 GMT
Yeah, one Turian Soldier Marksman+Widow or Proxi+Widow shot will stop a Banshee in her tracks on a solo. Very very helpful. Breathing room.
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 26, 2018 21:22:22 GMT
I am pretty sure that is not necessary,but forgot to mention something. The the threshold scales with the difficult as well.Lowest on bronze and higher on Plat ofc. |
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Post by nitrous on Oct 27, 2018 5:01:18 GMT
A good thing I found this, because there's one question that's been bothering me since the very first time I tried to kill a Banshee with a Javelin GI. They just won't stop despite I'm pretty much sure I'm dealing a ton of damage to them and hitting that threshold, because, well, cloaked Proxy Mine-buffed Javelin X shots.
What the hell, Banshees? What am I doing wrong?
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 27, 2018 7:31:42 GMT
A good thing I found this, because there's one question that's been bothering me since the very first time I tried to kill a Banshee with a Javelin GI. They just won't stop despite I'm pretty much sure I'm dealing a ton of damage to them and hitting that threshold, because, well, cloaked Proxy Mine-buffed Javelin X shots. What the hell, Banshees? What am I doing wrong? If the banshee didn't stop you didn't deal enough damage.It's simple.As we pointed out in a team game the threshold is high. |
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Post by antsu on Oct 27, 2018 7:44:07 GMT
A good thing I found this, because there's one question that's been bothering me since the very first time I tried to kill a Banshee with a Javelin GI. They just won't stop despite I'm pretty much sure I'm dealing a ton of damage to them and hitting that threshold, because, well, cloaked Proxy Mine-buffed Javelin X shots. What the hell, Banshees? What am I doing wrong? If the banshee didn't stop you didn't deal enough damage.It's simple.As we pointed out in a team game the threshold is high. I´d say if banshee lose roughly half of her barrier in short period of time she will stop her jumping movement. That´s in platinum solo but same result will require much more damage in team game.
Edit: Plat DAI solo with BW, disruptor 4, clip size and HVB: One shot dropped 3 bars of banshee barrier and caused her to stop movement.
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 27, 2018 8:07:30 GMT
If the banshee didn't stop you didn't deal enough damage.It's simple.As we pointed out in a team game the threshold is high. I´d say if banshee lose roughly half of her barrier in short period of time she will stop her jumping movement. That´s in platinum solo but same result will require much more damage in team game. Yes,with team you need much more damage.I have to check how much exactly. |
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 27, 2018 11:16:35 GMT
So you need to inflict 4000 dmage to stop a Banshee(platinum) in a solo game.The damage required is multiplied by the number of players in the game and is capped by the specified maximum value,which is 8000.With GI/Javelin combo+all damage bonuses from cloak,mines and hunter mod+full weapon passives you will inflict around 4800 damage which is more than requred threshold,but not enough on Duos,trios or full team game. |
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Post by burningcherry on Oct 27, 2018 16:06:06 GMT
So, if my calculations are correct, a QMI with lvl 4 TS can do this with 1 BWVI HS on a Banshee even without 4B Cloak or ammo bonuses. This will help. Edit: details Kalence>>> 842.0*(1.0+0.025+0.025+0.075+0.1+0.4+0.25+0.3+0.2)*1.25*(1.4+0.15+0.075)
4061.9921874999995 Edit2: lvl 12 Throw BEs do 3291 against armor and barriers on Plat and DC does 384/s against armor so Fury can also do this with just DC+Throw if the time window is no more that ~4s  |
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Post by muahmuah on Oct 27, 2018 16:21:32 GMT
So, if my calculations are correct, a QMI with lvl 4 TS can do this with 1 BWVI HS on a Banshee even without 4B Cloak or ammo bonuses. This will help. Edit: details Kalence>>> 842.0*(1.0+0.025+0.025+0.075+0.1+0.4+0.25+0.3+0.2)*1.25*(1.4+0.15+0.075)
4061.9921874999995 Never tested it,but i assume it will be enough in a solo game. |
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Post by docsteely on Oct 28, 2018 6:31:14 GMT
Drell AdeptThe_Doctor46N7 | 20 October 2018 | 18:17 | White | Cerberus | Venom (v) modded objectives Did this run last month,but didn't post it. ... Why did you nuke that Banshee at 8:18? As you may see, he got a not just that Banshee, but a killstreak with that nuke - that greatly contributes to the wave budget depletion... 
P.S. Oops, theDoc already answered that question: my bad...
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Post by madsmartigan on Dec 25, 2018 4:19:13 GMT
Wave 9, only an Atlas left, my hand decides to go spaz on the keyboard and suddenly the mouse/keyboard controls the camera and not my toon.
I flounder around trying to figure out what i just did while the Atlas saunters up, takes a swipe at me then casually breaks my neck.
Fission mailed.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 3, 2019 20:34:04 GMT
had an almost clean thundadump claymore HSOl solo today. I m just posting the extraction cause it s a nice one with death around the 00:00 mark ( DistigousForest and MPApr2012 ) (it s a fail cause i rage called a console revive w9, and wouldnt have survive that last death just befor the vid start) |
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 10, 2019 11:58:04 GMT
same same but that time i felt really in a good mood ! and stars looked aligned for me to have a nice run, so i thought ! I promise, those 2 praetorians were in each other ass the whole wave ... (fail 1) I dumped my fitness and one rank of CS to throw some nades !
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 10, 2019 14:07:11 GMT
same same but that time i felt really in a good mood ! and stars looked aligned for me to have a nice run, so i thought ! I promise, those 2 praetorians were in each other ass the whole wave ... (fail 1) I dumped my fitness and one rank of CS to throw some nades !
THat might be why i die so fast to swarmers there Seems that you are a little bit obsessed with HSol/thunderdome combo.Why is that? |
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 10, 2019 14:19:59 GMT
same same but that time i felt really in a good mood ! and stars looked aligned for me to have a nice run, so i thought ! I promise, those 2 praetorians were in each other ass the whole wave ... (fail 1) I dumped my fitness and one rank of CS to throw some nades !
THat might be why i die so fast to swarmers there Seems that you are a little bit obsessed with HSol/thunderdome combo.Why is that? well that s my todo list with a proper solo with all N7 Humans |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 10, 2019 14:30:27 GMT
Seems that you are a little bit obsessed with HSol/thunderdome combo.Why is that? well that s my todo list with a proper solo with all N7 Humans You can do a "proper" solo vs any faction on any map.Just saying...  |
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Post by larsdt on Jan 11, 2019 9:55:11 GMT
Seems that you are a little bit obsessed with HSol/thunderdome combo.Why is that? well that s my todo list with a proper solo with all N7 Humans Some epic rage nuking Have you tried without the Geth scanner? Maybe another option (more nades/nukes etc.) will increase your odds of succeeding... |
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 11, 2019 10:27:48 GMT
well that s my todo list with a proper solo with all N7 Humans Some epic rage nuking Have you tried without the Geth scanner? Maybe another option (more nades/nukes etc.) will increase your odds of succeeding... The easiest way to do this particular solo is with grenadeless build and AC IMO.It's the fastes way as well.Probably Alfonse wants moar fun with grenades,but glacier and glacier hazard aren't the best map for the grenade throwers. |
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 11, 2019 12:45:47 GMT
Some epic rage nuking  Have you tried without the Geth scanner? Maybe another option (more nades/nukes etc.) will increase your odds of succeeding... Some epic rage nuking Have you tried without the Geth scanner? Maybe another option (more nades/nukes etc.) will increase your odds of succeeding... The easiest way to do this particular solo is with grenadeless build and AC IMO.It's the fastes way as well.Probably Alfonse wants moar fun with grenades,but glacier and glacier hazard aren't the best map for the grenade throwers. Yes i just recently tried nade again, and it s a cool tool in my tool box. I loose a bit on TB (10-15%) and fitness and barrier damage of conc shot. But i have more mook control and a stagger option when i m using adrenaline rush (the combo 2 tap claymore + nade is a good one) As for GethScanner, yeah, i just went for 2 runs with ArmoredComp, i have 2 more claymore shots, but i have no time to use my missiles, i die before w4 . Now,I rely on GS too much for my kiting route, i m intoxicated. I m already flanked very often, without GS, it s a nigthmare. I think i should pass. But maybe after a few more tries with nade, i ll go back to no nade, and see the high benefits of level 7 TB (radius maybe) and level 6 concshot and fitness. Nonetheless, once again, i was closer in my first tries that after 20-30 Damn, i would have close it with 7 gels last week
Now i m rusty with W8 and 9, i think i should work them specifically with lolconsole
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