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Post by Shinobu on Jan 2, 2017 4:20:51 GMT
Soloing is very different from playing a regular match. It requires a different style of play and a different mind set. Failure is the norm. But if you stick with it, there is something special about weathering 11 waves of the worst the enemy can throw at you and living to tell the tale. So, for all of you who are trying soloing for the first time, or are attempting to solo a new difficulty, come share stories of awful objective waves, spawn bullshit and the ones that got away. And celebrate the ones where all the stars aligned. All difficulty levels welcome! Collected BSN wisdom: 1) Don't do it if you don't enjoy it. (PatrickBateman) 2) Cheat. Use the cheapest, most OP character weapon combos you can think of versus the easiest enemy on the easiest map. (Nightman) 3) Use a kit you feel comfortable with; your go-to kit. (DistigousForest) If you don't have one, feel free to use OP kits and setups (TGI Harrier, GT Acolyte, AIU Reegar). (q5tyhj) 4) Easiest maps for soloing: Giant and White. (It is known.) 5) Easiest factions for soloing: Reapers and Cerberus, especially for Platinum (Also Geth for Gold and below because of lack of sync kill units). 6) Learn the wave budgets. (Clyde) Link below. 7) Have a method for dealing with the problematic enemies like phantoms. (srgtcolon) Stagger sticks like the Scorpion, Venom and Falcon can be very useful secondary weapons. 8) Balance damage and survivability. (xelander) 9) Take geth scanner, keep your head on a swivel, don't get tunnel vision. Remember they may respawn behind you. 10) Use Right Hand Advantage by retreating clockwise around the map. Learn when to move and when to stay put. (docsteely, xelander) If Cerby turrets don't see you, they will eventually blow up and it's safe to move. (Shinobu) 11) Take it easy on objective waves, don't rush. (xelander) Kite enemies away from objectives instead of trying to muscle through them. 12) Remember hard cover, Ops Packs and other tips. More on proper Ops pack usage. (TheTechnoTurian) Remember to use your Thermal Clips for a damage boost. (q5tyhj) 13) Failure is normal. You do not suck if you fail. (docsteely) 14) Do not lose hope! If you're still standing it can be done. (Filippopotame) 15) Ragequitting with extreme prejudice is always an option. Resources for soloers: Smehur's wave budget breakdown (use tabs to change difficulty) HardCoreSalmon's Plat Solo GuidesPlatinum Solos HOFTheTechnoTurian's Youtube channelFor inspiration: MOI123's gold solo. Original post: As many of you know, I was terrified to play MP when it first came out. I thought I'd be too awful to inflict on a team and I'd spend my time being alternately berated and teabagged by 14 year olds. Then I tried it and I was pretty bad at it, but I met a lot of great people who helped me and taught me and carried me. When I first started playing this game I never thought I'd graduate from Bronze. But with time (lots of it) and friends, I moved up to Silver and Gold and the occasional Platinum. I've maxed my manifest, played over 10k matches and completed all of the silver challenges. . . except one. The Platinum Solo. So, since it's the time for resolutions and the clock is ticking down on the ME3 MP servers, I thought it was time to grab my harpoon and go chase the great white whale once again. I don't know if I can do it. I may not be able to. But I'm going to give it a try. At least until I get frustrated and give up again.  So for all of you who find a masochistic pleasure in soloing, come here to vent your frustrations at the ones that went south. Hi, I'm Shinobu, and I'm terrible at soloing. |
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Post by Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3 on Jan 2, 2017 4:59:56 GMT
I've never liked running solos,I get bored or frustrated too easy.I did enough to get the lone wolf accomplishment,then quit trying.I give all the props to the guys patient enough to complete Platinum,but it's just something I've never been interested in completing.I don't mind carrying,but not soloing. Good luck in succeeding,and I'm sure if you want it bad enough you can make it happen.  |
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Post by akots on Jan 2, 2017 5:05:54 GMT
I'm 100% sure you can do it. I did it but only once although I had a few other tries with Mission successful but did not actually extract. I myself am pretty awful at soloing. I cannot sub-20 gold but I can quite reliable do sub-30 and even something around 22-23 minutes like Jug with reegar on Glacier against cerberus or other chars with incendiary glitch or recon mine-spamming drell assassin.
For me, the hardest thing about platinum solos is staying focused for a such a long time. You have to constantly pay attention and be careful on objective waves. Another must have are the abilities/dps for quickly stopping the banshees from jumping and of course, countering the phantoms. Phantoms are dangerous even against the collectors despite them girls being there only in a single wave. My only extraction was with PPR-ACA weapon build with warp ammo. For that solo I specifically did not spec into dark sphere and put everything into weapon damage.
Other setups which worked quite well are the known scrubby builds like flamer trooper with acolyte or reegar, huntress all-out with power damage and any other character with incinerate or warp. I'm sure I can do it again but it is such a chore for me. It requires paying attention and staying very focused for like 40-45 minutes or even longer. I usually comfortably cruise up to waves 7 or 8 and then, around 30 minute mark, I lose it as I cannot remain focused simply because of getting tired. I have not tried recently, iirc, last time I tried a year ago.
TLDR, just find some comfortable setup with high dps and force yourself to constantly stay alert for extended period of time.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 2, 2017 5:13:07 GMT
Day 1: Ghost/Reapers TSent Falcon/Arc Pistol  Survivor Loadout, Pistol Amp III, Incendiary IV, Cyclonic IV (I am cheesing.) Wave 5 fail due to being jumped by Pyros spawning behind me. Silent but deadly!  Time: 34:32 (Yes, I spend to much time running away.  ) Lessons of the day: Kill only Ravagers to deplete the wave budget. When panicking, do not run directly into the pyro's flame.  |
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Post by akots on Jan 2, 2017 5:17:45 GMT
IMO, it is pretty difficult map/enemy combination. The spawns on Ghost are sometimes messed up. White, Glacier or Giant may be easier. Also, IMO, collectors is the easiest enemy as long as you can stay away from scions shooting at you across the map. There are fewer banshees and very few phantoms and budget is easy to deplete by killing abominations. Pretorians are tanky but easy to deal with. Collector captains is obviously the most dangerous enemy. Oh, and geth scanner, you forgot another crutch.  |
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 2, 2017 5:23:43 GMT
I've never liked running solos,I get bored or frustrated too easy.I did enough to get the lone wolf accomplishment,then quit trying.I give all the props to the guys patient enough to complete Platinum,but it's just something I've never been interested in completing.I don't mind carrying,but not soloing. Good luck in succeeding,and I'm sure if you want it bad enough you can make it happen. Thanks for your well-wishes! I have always found soloing stressful and lonely, which is why I started out in Bronze with HE and GE, so I could at least bring a pet to watch my flank. I don't think I will use either kit for this difficulty level, but I do miss having Sparky to talk to. I totally get not wanting to tackle this particular challenge, since it's not really that fun and is time consuming. My best Gold solo time (out of 4 total) was somewhere around 76 minutes, so I'm expecting a Plat solo to be more like 90 or 100 for me. Yes, I solo like panicked molasses. |
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Post by MPApr2012 on Jan 2, 2017 5:39:17 GMT
IMO, it is pretty difficult map/enemy combination. The spawns on Ghost are sometimes messed up. White, Glacier or Giant may be easier. Also, IMO, collectors is the easiest enemy as long as you can stay away from scions shooting at you across the map. There are fewer banshees and very few phantoms and budget is easy to deplete by killing abominations. Pretorians are tanky but easy to deal with. Collector captains is obviously the most dangerous enemy. Oh, and geth scanner, you forgot another crutch. That's a very solid piece of advice. if anything may I suggest DI with BW as a kit a try, that's the kind setup that worked for me with my limited soloing skills. Slap some drill ammo and a good power amp. He's a hard hitter against all the armour for the rest wallhax and recon mine all the way with a focus on the abominations  Be patient and keep at it, relocate when needed (which means often) and hope for the good objectives. Also larger maps are easier to funnel spawns but come at a cost of the overall match time |
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 2, 2017 5:40:39 GMT
Agree with akots that Ghost/Reapers isn't an especially easy setup for your 1st plat solo (though I'd disagree that Collectors are the easiest faction- for me its Cerberus by a mile.. but this probably varies from person to person so you'll have to decide for yourself). I'd go with Giant or White if I was you (my first plat solo was on Giant). Take it slow, be careful to not get flanked or boxed into a bad spot, and prioritize the enemies that are efficient at depleting the wave budget (phantoms, 'goons, ravagers, etc.) and you'll be fine. Consider using Geth Scanner, or if you feel really comfortable with the map and enemy spawn/movement patterns, Armored Compartments. Good luck!
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 2, 2017 5:44:44 GMT
oh, and absolutely no shame in using OP kits/guns for plat solos, especially for your first one- don't be sorry to roll out the Reegar AIU, Harrier TGI, Acolyte Geth Trooper, etc. if it helps
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 2, 2017 5:47:21 GMT
I'm 100% sure you can do it. I did it but only once although I had a few other tries with Mission successful but did not actually extract. I myself am pretty awful at soloing. I cannot sub-20 gold but I can quite reliable do sub-30 and even something around 22-23 minutes like Jug with reegar on Glacier against cerberus or other chars with incendiary glitch or recon mine-spamming drell assassin. For me, the hardest thing about platinum solos is staying focused for a such a long time. You have to constantly pay attention and be careful on objective waves. Another must have are the abilities/dps for quickly stopping the banshees from jumping and of course, countering the phantoms. Phantoms are dangerous even against the collectors despite them girls being there only in a single wave. My only extraction was with PPR-ACA weapon build with warm ammo. For that solo I specifically did not spec into dark sphere and put everything into weapon damage. Other setups which worked quite well are the known scrubby builds like flamer trooper with acolyte or reegar, huntress all-out with power damage and any other character with incinerate or warp. I'm sure I can do it again but it is such a chore for me. It requires paying attention and staying very focused for like 40-45 minutes or even longer. I usually comfortably cruise up to waves 7 or 8 and then, around 30 minute mark, I lose it as I cannot remain focused simply because of getting tired. I have not tried recently, iirc, last time I tried a year ago. TLDR, just find some comfortable setup with high dps and force yourself to constantly stay alert for extended period of time. Thanks for your faith, I'll try to live up to it! You are modest, sub 30 Gold sounds great to me! We can't all be speed demons like TTT, after all. I do tend to get tunnel vision, which is why hunters and pyros get the jump on me. Phantoms are another nightmare, especially in packs, which is my sole reason for bringing a Falcon. I do feel a bit cheesy for using incendiary ammo and Warp, but it's such a tasty cheese. The current plan is to use OG Turians, just because I feel comfortable with them, and TSent was my main squeeze for probably the first year or two of this game being out. It would be sweet to cap off everything with him, though he's no longer my most used kit. Thanks for your advice on maps! I've only tried Ghost and Giant so far. Maybe I should give White a go. Glacier is way too claustrophobic for me. I don't have the nerve to face devices on that map! |
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 2, 2017 6:01:56 GMT
IMO, it is pretty difficult map/enemy combination. The spawns on Ghost are sometimes messed up. White, Glacier or Giant may be easier. Also, IMO, collectors is the easiest enemy as long as you can stay away from scions shooting at you across the map. There are fewer banshees and very few phantoms and budget is easy to deplete by killing abominations. Pretorians are tanky but easy to deal with. Collector captains is obviously the most dangerous enemy. Oh, and geth scanner, you forgot another crutch. That's a very solid piece of advice. if anything may I suggest DI with BW as a kit a try, that's the kind setup that worked for me with my limited soloing skills. Slap some drill ammo and a good power amp. He's a hard hitter against all the armour for the rest wallhax and recon mine all the way with a focus on the abominations Be patient and keep at it, relocate when needed (which means often) and hope for the good objectives. Also larger maps are easier to funnel spawns but come at a cost of the overall match time Thanks for the advice! I'm terrible with the DI and sniping, so I'd have to do a lot of training with him. Even though I did his 200 wave challenge I never quite got the hang of that kit. The cooldown on recon mine killed me. In the right hands, he's a monster, but unfortunately I don't have the knack for him. I definitely like large maps that I can hide on. Hiding is my favorite pastime! Time doesn't bother me so much, except that a longer match means more likelihood of losing focus and messing up. I have no pride, so I'm happy with a 2 hour solo time if it's successful. |
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 2, 2017 6:08:41 GMT
Agree with akots that Ghost/Reapers isn't an especially easy setup for your 1st plat solo (though I'd disagree that Collectors are the easiest faction- for me its Cerberus by a mile.. but this probably varies from person to person so you'll have to decide for yourself). I'd go with Giant or White if I was you (my first plat solo was on Giant). Take it slow, be careful to not get flanked or boxed into a bad spot, and prioritize the enemies that are efficient at depleting the wave budget (phantoms, 'goons, ravagers, etc.) and you'll be fine. Consider using Geth Scanner, or if you feel really comfortable with the map and enemy spawn/movement patterns, Armored Compartments. Good luck! Thank you! You are brave -- Cerberus scares the living willies out of me. It's hard to shake the goons since they move so quickly, and I have memories of the buggers camping out next to a device so they could jump on my head! I also have a nearly paralyzing fear of phantoms, since I'm used to hosting and they still kill me regularly.  I'll definitely try Giant or White next time. If I get stomped too much by pyros and hunters I'll try the Geth Scanner. |
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Post by MPApr2012 on Jan 2, 2017 6:12:54 GMT
That's a very solid piece of advice. if anything may I suggest DI with BW as a kit a try, that's the kind setup that worked for me with my limited soloing skills. Slap some drill ammo and a good power amp. He's a hard hitter against all the armour for the rest wallhax and recon mine all the way with a focus on the abominations Be patient and keep at it, relocate when needed (which means often) and hope for the good objectives. Also larger maps are easier to funnel spawns but come at a cost of the overall match time Thanks for the advice! I'm terrible with the DI and sniping, so I'd have to do a lot of training with him. Even though I did his 200 wave challenge I never quite got the hang of that kit. The cooldown on recon mine killed me. In the right hands, he's a monster, but unfortunately I don't have the knack for him. I definitely like large maps that I can hide on. Hiding is my favorite pastime! Time doesn't bother me so much, except that a longer match means more likelihood of losing focus and messing up. I have no pride, so I'm happy with a 2 hour solo time if it's successful. that's fair enough, you have to be comfortable with the kit you're soloing with... hmm... I'd still think for going a char with the robust wallhax capabilities since it gets your char out of line of sight to do the damage. that or the Huntress, she's a boss-killer allright but she ain't good taking damage as you're aware
ah, and almost forgot another thing about Collectors Platinum, the goons are only in W11 which is a major bonus at least for me so no need to worry about getting swarmed early on
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 2, 2017 6:37:40 GMT
Agree with akots that Ghost/Reapers isn't an especially easy setup for your 1st plat solo (though I'd disagree that Collectors are the easiest faction- for me its Cerberus by a mile.. but this probably varies from person to person so you'll have to decide for yourself). I'd go with Giant or White if I was you (my first plat solo was on Giant). Take it slow, be careful to not get flanked or boxed into a bad spot, and prioritize the enemies that are efficient at depleting the wave budget (phantoms, 'goons, ravagers, etc.) and you'll be fine. Consider using Geth Scanner, or if you feel really comfortable with the map and enemy spawn/movement patterns, Armored Compartments. Good luck! Thank you! You are brave -- Cerberus scares the living willies out of me. It's hard to shake the goons since they move so quickly, and I have memories of the buggers camping out next to a device so they could jump on my head! I also have a nearly paralyzing fear of phantoms, since I'm used to hosting and they still kill me regularly. I'll definitely try Giant or White next time. If I get stomped too much by pyros and hunters I'll try the Geth Scanner. Yeah you absolutely have to have either a gun or power that consistently staggers enemies to have much success vs. Cerberus (that, or a ton of patience)... but if you do, they're actually fairly easy (and nothing eats through a wave budget like farming 'goons and phantoms). But you ultimately have to go with a map/faction (and kit/weapon) combo that you're comfortable with- not only does that give you a much higher chance of success, you also want to be able to, you know, have fun while you're doing it. One other good idea is to take a gander at a video (or videos) of people soloing the map you intend to use (even better if they're using the same kit and/or weapon)- gives you a good idea of where the good RHA spots are, where the spawns are typically coming from, how you want to move about the map, and so on. This shouldn't be too much trouble as you have some animals like the TurianLady who have soloed every map with every weapon vs every faction... and posted videos of most of them. Usually no need to watch the entire video, but even watching a minute or two (perhaps of the waves you find most troublesome) can go a long way. |
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 2, 2017 6:41:38 GMT
Thanks for the advice! I'm terrible with the DI and sniping, so I'd have to do a lot of training with him. Even though I did his 200 wave challenge I never quite got the hang of that kit. The cooldown on recon mine killed me. In the right hands, he's a monster, but unfortunately I don't have the knack for him. I definitely like large maps that I can hide on. Hiding is my favorite pastime! Time doesn't bother me so much, except that a longer match means more likelihood of losing focus and messing up. I have no pride, so I'm happy with a 2 hour solo time if it's successful. ... I'd still think for going a char with the robust wallhax capabilities since it gets your char out of line of sight to do the damage
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If you take out the "solo-ers support thread" of the title then you would pretty much have my life.
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Post by patrickbateman on Jan 2, 2017 9:30:28 GMT
My first advice is to ask yourself "do I enjoy doing this and am I having fun?" - if the answer is yes then you should definitely continue, if the answer is no then don't press yourself to much to get it done to quickly, take your time. The most frustrating moments I've had in this game were when I pressed myself to get solos done despite not really enjoying it (looking back at it now it seems crazy that I did it).
For faction Cerberus in general is the quickest and easiest if you can deal with all the Phantoms and Dragoons, if you use a hit scan gun like an AR I'd recommend the Scorpion as a secondary, it's excellent for Phantrolls and Goons.
Reapers is a good option also, with some set-ups they are easier than Cerberus.
For map, Gigant is where most people do their first solos, it's big, have good cover and a very good kiting path around the map. White is my favorite map, but it can be a bit tougher in the beginning as you have more risks of getting flanked and attacked from behind.
Using the GS is another very good advice, especially if you use a kit with no dodge like the TSent.
Collectors are imo the worst to fight, Geth in general are harder but the Collectors for me personally is just a glitched mess that takes all the fun out of soloing.
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Post by patrickbateman on Jan 2, 2017 9:36:33 GMT
Agree with akots that Ghost/Reapers isn't an especially easy setup for your 1st plat solo (though I'd disagree that Collectors are the easiest faction- for me its Cerberus by a mile.. but this probably varies from person to person so you'll have to decide for yourself). I'd go with Giant or White if I was you (my first plat solo was on Giant). Take it slow, be careful to not get flanked or boxed into a bad spot, and prioritize the enemies that are efficient at depleting the wave budget (phantoms, 'goons, ravagers, etc.) and you'll be fine. Consider using Geth Scanner, or if you feel really comfortable with the map and enemy spawn/movement patterns, Armored Compartments. Good luck! Thank you! You are brave -- Cerberus scares the living willies out of me. It's hard to shake the goons since they move so quickly, and I have memories of the buggers camping out next to a device so they could jump on my head! I also have a nearly paralyzing fear of phantoms, since I'm used to hosting and they still kill me regularly. I'll definitely try Giant or White next time. If I get stomped too much by pyros and hunters I'll try the Geth Scanner. There are no Dragoons on any objective wave for Cerberus, you get them on waves 2, 7, 9 and 11. |
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 2, 2017 9:56:23 GMT
Collectors can punish you very fast, so that s not an easy faction for me. W10 is just the worst wave all game. Cerb goon waves are a chore but certain setup makes them easy. Giant and white are the easier map by far imo. Escort and obj are more painfull on white, as kiting. For me, the hardest thing about platinum solos is staying focused for a such a long time. You have to constantly pay attention and be careful on objective waves. Another must have are the abilities/dps for quickly stopping the banshees from jumping and of course, countering the phantoms. Phantoms are dangerous even against the collectors despite them girls being there only in a single wave. My only extraction was with PPR-ACA weapon build with warp ammo. For that solo I specifically did not spec into dark sphere and put everything into weapon damage. I can relatte to that. It s still my problem. But after the first completions i became more confortable with plat pressure and flanking. I remember always being trolled from the flank (hunter or phantroll) on giant reapa and havin gto check it every time i killed an enemy that could respawn. Now i'm (far from being cool along a plat solo) not paying attention anymore, lol. No idea how that goes. Maybe it s just i can react without freaking out to flanking now, maybe i just should still pay attention ! That being said Shinobu , i still havent succeded with either fat turians ! Failed at least 10 times with them. Anyway, as you R going reapa, which is a good idea, you really need smtg to stop banshees in few seconds. Thats were acolyte trooper or cryo CS kits or asari infiltrator are realy good. If u kite a lot, Asari powerhouse infi is a cool choice, cause one clock DC cast can kill almost all targets even banshees i think. |
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 2, 2017 10:53:14 GMT
Practice Zen. I've tried the Shadow against Collectors. It's not the fastest kit especially when you try to do it the ninja way, but it works. I did like 4 waves, then looked at the clock and decided to play something else, lol. That was at least indicating a 90 min run.
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Post by Filippopotame on Jan 2, 2017 11:30:07 GMT
I can only offer my support, I'm terrible at soloing platinum. Currently I only did it once and needed 50/70 tries tu pull off a sucessfull White/Reapers/Geth Trooper. The only advice I can give you is do not loose hope ! If you're still standing it can be done.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 2, 2017 19:54:17 GMT
I have failed another Tsol hurricane scorpion white cerb solo today. But i gave up early (W3)
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Post by BDaddy1968 on Jan 2, 2017 20:14:13 GMT
Thought I might give my own two cents, for what it's worth. My first Plat solo was with the Juggy and incendiary Reegar on Giant against Cerberus. Playing super conservative, my first attempt failed during targets x3. The next run was a successful 69 minute Plat solo. Juggs trivializes phantoms and banshees. Fire explosions for armor, hello whipgoons, eats thru the budgets uberfast. It became my regular UUP solo setup and honestly, the kit can handle most anything rng throws at it.
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Post by mordokai on Jan 2, 2017 21:04:16 GMT
Thought I might give my own two cents, for what it's worth. My first Plat solo was with the Juggy and incendiary Reegar on Giant against Cerberus. Playing super conservative, my first attempt failed during targets x3. The next run was a successful 69 minute Plat solo. Juggs trivializes phantoms and banshees. Fire explosions for armor, hello whipgoons, eats thru the budgets uberfast. It became my regular UUP solo setup and honestly, the kit can handle most anything rng throws at it. Cyclonics or Adrenaline? |
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Be patient and keep at it, relocate when needed (which means often) and hope for the good objectives. Also larger maps are easier to funnel spawns but come at a cost of the overall match time
I'll definitely try Giant or White next time. If I get stomped too much by pyros and hunters I'll try the Geth Scanner. 
