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Post by patrickbateman on Jan 5, 2017 18:31:44 GMT
Haven't really tested it but I don't think one DS cast alone will take out a Banshee. The huntress is pretty far from the more powerful kits in the game, although powerful DS takes a long time to kill boss units on platinum and vs Atlas/Prime Shields it barelly does anything.
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Post by Dovahkiin N7 on Jan 5, 2017 19:05:06 GMT
Huntress is a powerhouse but her low base shields (and slower recharge given cloaking) makes her fragile. Even with Cyclonics IV. That said being able to kill something with Dark Channel alone is pretty boss. Even I am a platinum noob, I can assure you recharge is absolutely no issue. I run her with the might lord claymore and Heavy barrel and can still spam warp and DC.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 5, 2017 19:05:52 GMT
Haven't really tested it but I don't think one DS cast alone will take out a Banshee. The huntress is pretty far from the more powerful kits in the game, although powerful DS takes a long time to kill boss units on platinum and vs Atlas/Prime Shields it barelly does anything. this DC gives 856 vs armor and 1142 per sec vs barrier over 30 sec banshee is 22 000 armor and 13 000 barrier So u wld need one warp BE to do the trick
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 5, 2017 19:07:40 GMT
Huntress is a powerhouse but her low base shields (and slower recharge given cloaking) makes her fragile. Even with Cyclonics IV. That said being able to kill something with Dark Channel alone is pretty boss. Yeah Huntress is a great kit, but probably not the most beginner-friendly kit for plat solos.. Justicar and probably the Valkyrie would be better if you want an Asari for your first plat solo. But I also agree with Clyde that its usually best to just pick a kit you like and then stick with it instead of trying out a new kit with each attempt: TSent is a perfectly good choice, just need to keep plugging away at it (and it doesn't hurt to get some help from asshole RNG).
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Post by patrickbateman on Jan 5, 2017 19:16:50 GMT
Huntress is a powerhouse but her low base shields (and slower recharge given cloaking) makes her fragile. Even with Cyclonics IV. That said being able to kill something with Dark Channel alone is pretty boss. Even I am a platinum noob, I can assure you recharge is absolutely no issue. I run her with the might lord claymore and Heavy barrel and can still spam warp and DC. TC re-charge is always the same for all (W)infiltrators regardless of which weapon(s) you use, if you break cloak immediately it's always the same for all of them.
That being said her ability to set off BE:s is much slower than what you can do with biotic kits that can spam powers much faster than what you can do with cloak-cast, cloak-cast.
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Post by patrickbateman on Jan 5, 2017 19:20:00 GMT
Huntress is a powerhouse but her low base shields (and slower recharge given cloaking) makes her fragile. Even with Cyclonics IV. That said being able to kill something with Dark Channel alone is pretty boss. Yeah Huntress is a great kit, but probably not the most beginner-friendly kit for plat solos.. Justicar and probably the Valkyrie would be better if you want an Asari for your first plat solo. But I also agree with Clyde that its usually best to just pick a kit you like and then stick with it instead of trying out a new kit with each attempt: TSent is a perfectly good choice, just need to keep plugging away at it (and it doesn't hurt to get some help from asshole RNG). Agreed,
Not so sure though if the Valkyrie is so beginner friendly, requires a bit of risk taking especially for sync kill units - but fully agree that the Justicar is an excellent option.
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Post by Dovahkiin N7 on Jan 5, 2017 19:51:19 GMT
I do not treat DC ( on gold) for boss killing but to stagger, set BEs, and for annoying glass cannon enemies like phantoms. Specially phantoms, DC them and concentrate on others with warp-gun. Bosses get DC-warp BE and the claymore to the face.
But I agree, it seems ultimately what kit you are comfortable with. I solo (gold) faster with her than justicar or anybody else. Turians? I am terrified of phantoms while playing them.
Suggestions on how to solo gold sub-30? And what kit/setup is best.
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 5, 2017 19:51:59 GMT
@pb- yeah I don't think the Valkyrie is particularly beginner-friendly either, at least not when played optimally, but I think she may still be at least a little bit easier for a beginner than the Huntress- she has DR and a way to refill her barriers, so if you play her more conservatively (i.e. not bum-rushing all the things) she'd probably be a bit more beginner-friendly. Still probably not advisable, Justicar would obv be the better choice, or any of a number of kits already mentioned (TSent, BatSol, AIU/TGI/GT, etc.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 19:55:30 GMT
I haven't played much the past year, and when I do and try to quick search, I normally land in games where I'm having serious latency issues.
This has driven me to soloing a few times in the past few weeks.
I completed my 5th & 6th Gold solos over the holidays Glacier / Collector on the first one (32 min), then Glacier Reaper on the second (25 min). Used the almighty GT / Reegar Incendiary ammo (Hey I'm not a pro like you dedicated soloers). Both of those matches had targets and devices, so I was quite satisfied to complete them.
I should have stopped there as I was 2 for 2 on attempts. But I was having more fun with it than I thought I would, so I tried for a Gold speedrun. Loaded up a PD Slayer and set Glacier / Cerberus. I was playing my best, on wave 3 I got a short escort, on wave 6 I rolled the basement hack, which I cheesed. I pulled off at least 6 quality missiles, got to 10, and promptly got devices, damn. I kited enemies from the first two, then disaster, the 3rd device was the one in the middle outside the closed off room. In my haste to try and get it (I was still trying to save a decent time) I got knocked off and synch killed. The time read 17:55, ouch! I like to think if I had gotten an escort I would have completed one of the fastest PSN gold solo times ..
I also took two shots at a Plat solo, wiped on wave 9, then wave 10. I never realized how much I hated Platinum Geth Hunters until after these attempts, they accounted for almost every med gel and ops pack I had to use (In multiple quantities at any time)
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Post by Dovahkiin N7 on Jan 5, 2017 20:00:21 GMT
I never realized how much I hated Platinum Geth Hunters until after these attempts, they accounted for almost every med gel and ops pack I had to use (In multiple quantities at any time)
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Post by patrickbateman on Jan 5, 2017 20:05:54 GMT
I do not treat DC ( on gold) for boss killing but to stagger, set BEs, and for annoying glass cannon enemies like phantoms. Specially phantoms, DC them and concentrate on others with warp-gun. Bosses get DC-warp BE and the claymore to the face. But I agree, it seems ultimately what kit you are comfortable with. I solo (gold) faster with her than justicar or anybody else. Turians? I am terrified of phantoms while playing them. Suggestions on how to solo gold sub-30? And what kit/setup is best. Reegar/Kroguard vs Geth is probably the easiest way to get it done.
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Post by MPApr2012 on Jan 5, 2017 20:15:18 GMT
I do not treat DC ( on gold) for boss killing but to stagger, set BEs, and for annoying glass cannon enemies like phantoms. Specially phantoms, DC them and concentrate on others with warp-gun. Bosses get DC-warp BE and the claymore to the face. But I agree, it seems ultimately what kit you are comfortable with. I solo (gold) faster with her than justicar or anybody else. Turians? I am terrified of phantoms while playing them. Suggestions on how to solo gold sub-30? And what kit/setup is best. i'm still working to get consistently onto sub-30 gold solo level myself (bar the infamous kroguard solo setup) so not exactly the wealth of experience here, but hey if that worked for me sure you'll do even better - Vanilla AA w Disruptor Paladin vs Carebears White, Valkyrie w Incendiary CSMG vs Reapers Glacier
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jan 5, 2017 20:23:14 GMT
Huntress is a powerhouse but her low base shields (and slower recharge given cloaking) makes her fragile. Even with Cyclonics IV. Even I am a platinum noob, I can assure you recharge is absolutely no issue. For clarity I was talking about shield/barrier recharge, not power recharge. Infiltrator's Tactical Cloak stalls the shield recharge, so on fragile Infiltrators like the Huntress you are doubly fragile: first because of low base shields and second because your shield recharge is constantly being stalled by Tactical Cloak. = = = Regarding KroGuard, I think he teaches a lot of bad solo habits and is overrated anyway. Go ahead and charge into some Pyros or Hunters, see how that works for you, even on Gold.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 5, 2017 20:39:53 GMT
Daily fails of the day on white Uknowln plat TSent with PPR and scorpion vs collector : damn too long CD TSent with lancer vs geth, damn low accuracy and fucking geth TSent with arc pistol vs cerb, good fit ! damn first W3 device, after 2 full circle kiting around the map i went to missile every intruder on sight, took my nine missiles to clear the device , closed devices on W6 easily. but got out of gels on 7. SHould have stopped after device n°1 but i had fun
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 5, 2017 23:02:17 GMT
I've never successfully solo'd Platinum. I am confident I could do it given enough time and concentration but like patrickbateman said, when it stops being fun you have to consider whether this is an arbitrary challenge that you care enough to do. FWIW my most successful attempts were White vs. Cerberus Asari Justicar Adept with Venom (and Hurricane?) Cyclonics, Warp Ammo, Shotgun Rail Amp, and Armored Compartments Full credit to @thetechnoturian for the advice on this set-up. She also has a video on her YouTube channel that you can watch for tips. The Armored Compartments are so you can nuke the double Atlases when it makes sense. Venom lets you trivialize Phantoms and Goons... not to mention you can repeatedly stagger them with Reave or blow them up when they step into your Biotic Sphere. I also sometimes took the Hurricane because wearing down an Atlas or Prime with just the Venom is annoying to me. But, the Hurricane does slightly worsen your cooldown, so once you git gud you probably don't need it. The best I've ever done with this setup is to get to Wave 10, but got Devices as the objective and just couldn't handle it. Very frustrating. Anyway that's my advice for what it's worth. Oo, I like AJA, but I think I'm not aggressive enough with her. I've never tried Warp Venom before, I usually put it on the GE for fire explosions. Imma try it in a gold PUG and see if I can figure it out.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 5, 2017 23:18:26 GMT
Hi Shinobu , I am late to the party and the Tsent is a great kit ... and if you are close with that I won't divert you ... but, I recommend to give the GI a spin. It has everything. For a start, you wont't be able to leave your Geth Scanner home. You actually get the best scanner there is (with HM-6A) and you can freely use gears, AC, Stronghold, etc. You get speed, you get cloak, you get proxy mine damage and debuf. Venue: Giant vs Cerberus with GPS or GPS+Hurricane ( build) GPS staggers every mook, relegates phantoms to husk category. GPS also gives aim assist and geth damage bonus. Single charged shot or shot+proxy mine stops the banshee. You can go with GPS only, or with Hurricane sidearm to speed up Atlas takedowns. note: reload cancel is needed for the GPS. Thanks for your well wishes! I've only recently started using HM on the GI because I'm a coward who loves shields. I'm rather sucky at reload cancelling, but make an effort with the Claymoar, so I could probably pull it off with the GPS. I should respec him and take him for a spin. The more ideas I hear from you guys the more convinced I become that I should go back and git gud before trying to solo Plat!
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 5, 2017 23:20:43 GMT
I resemble this thread. I am learning in this thread. Thanks Shinobu, from one Plat Solo Scrub to another MTFBWYA And with you! Please post about your soloing experiences! It would be really cool if a bunch of us went on this solo journey together!
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 5, 2017 23:28:24 GMT
Challenge accepted.... I know I will regret this.
I will attempt my last near-success again - Kroguard Reapers. Had 7 waves survived, 5 gels and 6 rockets entering wave 10 devices.
I will be modding my objective waves this time, targets and devices have fucked me on 10 too many times.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 5, 2017 23:33:47 GMT
Most of the high-level advice (i.e., white/giant and geth scanner) has already been given so here's some quick tip quickies for soloing and some advice that you may already know, but just in case (all the spoilers contain large gifs): + For w10 targets versus reapers, would recommend not to nuke two banshees at once. Rather, kill one so that you don't get a double respawn somewhere else on the map. If banshees spawn somewhere on the map alone, with no other enemies around, they're much easier than if they are in close proximity to one another. + Hack-glitching, for maximum "clever use of (broken) gameplay mechanics". + Fat Turians should use the environment to dodge incoming projectiles by snapping in and out of hard cover. The results can be quite glorious. + The ramp closest to the LZ that leads down to the lower area of giant has glitched areas with no collision, i.e., missiles shot may end up going right through the map without exploding. It's safest not to use missiles on this ramp. + I think this is fairly well known in the community, but in case you aren't aware, 1 second ops packs immunity can save you from both Brutes and Phantom syncs. You also have a short window of immunity after you gel. Brutes (this contains BOTH revive immunity and ops packs immunity. If link didn't work it's at the 24 minute mark. clearly I was having brute problems that day) Phantoms - ops pack immunity Of course, the fat turian can also use tech armor to stagger her out of the animation. + This is a thing that happens. If you leave them like this they'll usually either fall down or get raptured/beamed up into the skies. + and to close it out, sometimes doing this on Wave 1 is highly recommended in some instances, because it can be very cathartic: Would not recommend continuing with the solo however for obvious reasons Edit: + Also, forgot to add one other thing that few people do; when you strip Atlas shields and they're down to armor, shoot them in the crotch. Once you deal enough damage the crotch plate breaks off and they stagger. Thank you for all the great advice! I really admire the way you can skate on the edge of one health bar -- it's like watching a highwire act. It's scary, but you're so good at it you make it look like the most natural thing in the world. How do you know when to time the Ops pack? It looks in the phantom gif that you push the button just after she does the slash animation. With brutes do you wait for them to pick you up? I never had luck with ops packs stopping sync kills, so I gave up trying long ago, but this is a skill I really should learn. Can ops packs work against banshee sync kills? I'm going to try to do hacks the regular way, but we'll see how long that resolution holds. In another 40 attempts or so I may give up on that.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 5, 2017 23:38:43 GMT
I don't hate solos, I just suck at it. I also tend to lose focus. I have never even attempted platinum solo. I want to but I first want to do a sub 35 min solo before I attempt platinum. Preferably with kit that is not Huntress, Collector adept and against Cerberus and without cyclonics. Failed there too a few times. Else I think I am not ready for platinum. Wish you succed and then I can try. . About TechnoTurian's solos. She is constantly in red (no shield) , heads hitting with disciple and laugh at phantoms. She ain't human. Seriously, if you are doing 35 minute gold solos, I'm sure you have the skills to do a plat solo. Compared to you I am so underqualified it's not even funny. Come on, do it with me and Qui Gon and Alfonse and MaxCrushmore! It'll be fun!
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 5, 2017 23:43:55 GMT
I haven't played much the past year, and when I do and try to quick search, I normally land in games where I'm having serious latency issues. This has driven me to soloing a few times in the past few weeks. I completed my 5th & 6th Gold solos over the holidays Glacier / Collector on the first one (32 min), then Glacier Reaper on the second (25 min). Used the almighty GT / Reegar Incendiary ammo (Hey I'm not a pro like you dedicated soloers). Both of those matches had targets and devices, so I was quite satisfied to complete them. I should have stopped there as I was 2 for 2 on attempts. But I was having more fun with it than I thought I would, so I tried for a Gold speedrun. Loaded up a PD Slayer and set Glacier / Cerberus. I was playing my best, on wave 3 I got a short escort, on wave 6 I rolled the basement hack, which I cheesed. I pulled off at least 6 quality missiles, got to 10, and promptly got devices, damn. I kited enemies from the first two, then disaster, the 3rd device was the one in the middle outside the closed off room. In my haste to try and get it (I was still trying to save a decent time) I got knocked off and synch killed. The time read 17:55, ouch! I like to think if I had gotten an escort I would have completed one of the fastest PSN gold solo times .. I also took two shots at a Plat solo, wiped on wave 9, then wave 10. I never realized how much I hated Platinum Geth Hunters until after these attempts, they accounted for almost every med gel and ops pack I had to use (In multiple quantities at any time) Congrats on the solos! If you're getting to W10 on your second try I'm sure you'll finish one in no time! Also, geth hunters, I know those feels.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 5, 2017 23:46:33 GMT
Daily fails of the day on white Uknowln plat TSent with PPR and scorpion vs collector : damn too long CD TSent with lancer vs geth, damn low accuracy and fucking geth TSent with arc pistol vs cerb, good fit ! damn first devices, after 2 full circle kiting around the map i went to missile every intruder on sight, took my nine missiles to clear the device , closed devices on W6 easily. but got out of gels on 7. SHould have stopped after device n°1 but i had fun You still got to W9 without gel, so good on ya! Arc pistol is nice, isn't it?
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 5, 2017 23:49:56 GMT
Challenge accepted.... I know I will regret this. I will attempt my last near-success again - Kroguard Reapers. Had 7 waves survived, 5 gels and 6 rockets entering wave 10 devices. I will be modding my objective waves this time, targets and devices have fucked me on 10 too many times. HOORAY~! You can do it! I know this sounds silly, but now I feel less alone since you guys are doing it too. Even if I'm the only one who doesn't make it, this makes me really happy!
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 6, 2017 4:16:01 GMT
Day 5 Attempt 5: Giant/Reapers TSent Arc Pistol/Falcon Geth Scanner, Pistol Amp III, Incendiary IV, Cyclonic IV Wave 8 fail because I failed to suppress the spawn in the corner by the LZ and the fast pressure of the phantom/banshee ran me right into the atlas' cannon. Following which I was gunned down every time I got up until I ran out of gel. Time: 66:42 Objectives were devices and devices, which were pretty straightforward except that atlases are really slow to kite. The geth scanner definitely saved me some consumables early on and kept the hunters from surprise killing me. Lesson of the day: If you can't run in the normal circuit, have a back up plan. As I'm not going to be able to get another in before midnight, I will hold off on the second attempt.
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 6, 2017 4:23:49 GMT
... Loaded up a PD Slayer and set Glacier / Cerberus. I was playing my best, on wave 3 I got a short escort, on wave 6 I rolled the basement hack, which I cheesed. I pulled off at least 6 quality missiles, got to 10, and promptly got devices, damn. This perfectly describes about 80-90% of my plat speedrun attempts... Going great, great w3 and w6 objectives, excellent cleanup nukes, great good acceptable gameplay, perfect spawns and nukes on later waves... then w10 devices (or targets) happens and I'm like
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