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Post by chonma on May 22, 2020 5:37:19 GMT
i haven't played dragon age, so i don't know who is oghren. is he that akward and obvious? (don't worry about spoiling me stuff, i m immune to the bad effect of spoilers) If compare Garrus- Oghren. Garrus can't even understand that a person is flirting with him. Damn, even cutscene in DLC Citadel while meeting with him as a friend remember? I did not push any green buttons and Garrus, instead of having "reach and flexibility" night continued as if nothing to talk about GUNS. Though could have spent a night with a woman, but knows nothing about such things. Guns are more important. Oghren in actually another person whom I would describe as "want to fuck everything that moves". He always makes comments to EVERYONE about sex and things connected. If you have romance or something else is going on he WILL comment it, be sure of that. Only even if I really like him (and as I understand many people do), his comments are aweful - so he is like Garrus only he understands "flirting" in a very wrong manner and does it 24/7. Hell, even if your PC is a woman there is a funny dialogue option to flirt with him, only his reaction to it is hilarious. Oghren is awesome imo. this is why i compared myself to garrus first (despite not having done DLCs myself, i remember having watches a playthrough years ago of a french YTber that made the citadel dlc, + i also remember that during ME2 and ME3, garrus pass all his free time in the weaponry sector of the normandy "calibrating" the normandy's cannons) this might explain why i play mostly turians in both ME3MP and MEAMP
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Post by Sonya on May 22, 2020 7:30:50 GMT
i also remember that during ME2 and ME3, garrus pass all his free time in the weaponry sector of the normandy "calibrating" the normandy's cannons Oh, not all. At some point with certain outcomes in ME3 in the end of the game he does there not only calibration. But ,aye, even Legion is no match for him in weapon systeme calibration according to funny dialogue. this might explain why i play mostly turians in both ME3MP and MEAMP Aye, et your avatar I guess.
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Post by chonma on May 22, 2020 7:43:19 GMT
i also remember that during ME2 and ME3, garrus pass all his free time in the weaponry sector of the normandy "calibrating" the normandy's cannons Oh, not all. At some point with certain outcomes in ME3 in the end of the game he does there not only calibration. But ,aye, even Legion is no match for him in weapon systeme calibration according to funny dialogue. this might explain why i play mostly turians in both ME3MP and MEAMP Aye, et your avatar I guess. i do remember that 3 times, during ME3, he wasn't in the weapon bay, but in other areas speaking with other people (once with liara in observation bay, once with james near the self, and once with one of the crews in the bar area ) and yes, i do remember, when legiontold him about "not possible to optimise weapons more than 0.32% more" or something like this, and garrus manage to optimise it to like 0.4% more and legion get confused. yes, my current avatar does illustrate it (the heavy turian soldier from MEAMP)
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Post by Sonya on May 22, 2020 8:17:28 GMT
i do remember that 3 times, during ME3, he wasn't in the weapon bay, but in other areas speaking with other people (once with liara in observation bay, once with james near the self, and once with one of the crews in the bar area ) Flirting I meant since the original point was about this topic that is why have mentioned that. In the end of ME3 with Tali alive they do not calibrate weapon systeme in Garrus "room". That scene is hilarious and their dialogue lines as well. And what Garrus says there in the end does not look like Garrus I've known throughout all three games. Tali's whoring behavior finally paid off I guess.
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Post by chonma on May 22, 2020 9:04:43 GMT
i do remember that 3 times, during ME3, he wasn't in the weapon bay, but in other areas speaking with other people (once with liara in observation bay, once with james near the self, and once with one of the crews in the bar area ) Flirting I meant since the original point was about this topic that is why have mentioned that. In the end of ME3 with Tali alive they do not calibrate weapon systeme in Garrus "room". That scene is hilarious and their dialogue lines as well. And what Garrus says there in the end does not look like Garrus I've known throughout all three games. Tali's whoring behavior finally paid off I guess. oh, okay! mm...i should try a run where i do not favour geths over quarians then...because in my runs tali doesn't make it alive in the end of ME3, so, never knew that garrus-tali relationship could end up like this.
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Post by Sonya on May 22, 2020 9:17:14 GMT
mm...i should try a run where i do not favour geths over quarians then...because in my runs tali doesn't make it alive in the end of ME3, so, never knew that garrus-tali relationship could end up like this. In my runs Tali doesnot make it alive already in ME2 and in ME3 I chose Geth all the time. With certain "Evil Save" Tai is alive but just jumps off the cliff, whatever as do not care about her. I just saw that scene and dialogue in other PTs myself. In all my PTs Tali is dead anyway. Unstable element.
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Post by chonma on May 22, 2020 9:22:59 GMT
mm...i should try a run where i do not favour geths over quarians then...because in my runs tali doesn't make it alive in the end of ME3, so, never knew that garrus-tali relationship could end up like this. In my runs Tali doesnot make it alive already in ME2 and in ME3 I chose Geth all the time. With certain "Evil Save" Tai is alive but just jumps off the cliff, whatever as do not care about her. I just saw that scene and dialogue in other PTs myself. In all my PTs Tali is dead anyway. Unstable element.yeah, she's very unstable emotionally. it surprised me just how easily she stopped having the "loyal" status just because i told her to not shut legion down. that's just insane.
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Post by Sonya on May 22, 2020 9:37:06 GMT
yeah, she's very unstable emotionally. it surprised me just how easily she stopped having the "loyal" status just because i told her to not shut legion down. that's just insane. Oh, there are so many examples of her unstable and whoring behavior in ME2 and ME3. In ME1 she is just exp source, starting from ME2 she is a probleme. Quarians are a probleme. In ME3 Legion/VI reasons to chose the Geth are very true. Have never chosen quarians and do not even want to try (though like to check different outcomes). But Tali? Many fans, even huge mods. Just do not understand.
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Post by chonma on May 22, 2020 11:10:23 GMT
yeah, she's very unstable emotionally. it surprised me just how easily she stopped having the "loyal" status just because i told her to not shut legion down. that's just insane. Oh, there are so many examples of her unstable and whoring behavior in ME2 and ME3. In ME1 she is just exp source, starting from ME2 she is a probleme. Quarians are a probleme. In ME3 Legion/VI reasons to chose the Geth are very true. Have never chosen quarians and do not even want to try (though like to check different outcomes). But Tali? Many fans, even huge mods. Just do not understand. yes,i did the same about the geth-quarian conflict, always privilegied the geth because i just found the quarians being exagerately agressive, and unfair. quarian's obsessive hatred toward the geth (leading them to consider geth's destruction even more important than their own survival, judging by how extensively they used their own civil ships to do suicide missions against geths) did not let me any other choice than the final solution. (and since, during the current run, i even had the opportunity to visit some geth archives during an optionnal mission with legion on rannoch, it gave me the opportunity to wittness how, during the first geth-quarian conflict, quarians authorities just tryed to get rid of the few quarians that wanted to coexist with the geths) as for tali's huge fanbase, i think the answer lies in her design (more exactly her space-suit's design) and voice: a design that does match with human beauty standards for females, same for voice tone, the fabric pieces added on the suit does remind a bit of the middle-east and/or indian cultural influence. add on that an attitude that seems a bit shy a first glance (at least during some ME1 dialogues) the fact that she is very young (by her specie's standard she's not even major in ME1!). add on that a little bit of suggestion and mistery due to the semi-opaque visor of her suit's helmet. add on that the circumstance under wich you encounter her in ME1: you do save her, and when you encounter someone by saving his life, it does create a emotionnal connection (it makes you more likely to see this being as someone you need to protect) (wich, for male audience, does fit into the stereotype of "i m the knight and i saved the princess" thing) i mean, to me, it seems very clear that her chara design has been carefully planned to appeal to the audience: feminine enough to catch male audience's favors, but not oversexualised + this kind of young, shy and vulnerable side that make the female audience see her as a vulnerable little sis they got to protect. (+ we know that in sci-fi in general, the aliens that are friendly to humans are anthropomorphised in order to increase the audience's empathy toward them, because it's easyer for a human being to have empathy towards someone looking like a young human lady, than someone looking like a mix of a cockroach and a giant worm )
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Post by Sonya on May 22, 2020 11:54:11 GMT
yes,i did the same about the geth-quarian conflict, always privilegied the geth because i just found the quarians being exagerately agressive, and unfair. quarian's obsessive hatred toward the geth (leading them to consider geth's destruction even more important than their own survival, judging by how extensively they used their own civil ships to do suicide missions against geths) did not let me any other choice than the final solution. (and since, during the current run, i even had the opportunity to visit some geth archives during an optionnal mission with legion on rannoch, it gave me the opportunity to wittness how, during the first geth-quarian conflict, quarians authorities just tryed to get rid of the few quarians that wanted to coexist with the geths) There are some reasonable quarians I have met, but in general agree 100 %. In short - they are stupid, their admirals are stupid. Some quarians managed to survive as I recall from codex, but races die out all the time because of different reasons, only in ths case it was the war. Tbh the devs themselves talked about quarians as if they hated them themselves. It is difficut to trust such race anyway. And yes, even Hackett says that the Geth has just fucking strong fleet. Period. They are more useful in war for obvious reasons. And as a race? It is another question but it is another universe with different laws. Imo, it is a race, still young but a new race. See nothing wrong with it. And using the laws of our unverse to judge the Geth is a mistake. But, as I said, "The geth is a race" is another and very huge question to discuss. i mean, to me, it seems very clear that her chara design has been carefully planned to appeal to the audience: feminine enough to catch male audience's favors, but not oversexualised + this kind of young, shy and vulnerable side that make the female audience see her as a vulnerable little sis they got to protect From what I see, exactly such LIs are popular. Or simple ass-pushing-the -camera-type. Know the type as Tali. My type is Jack (and Garrus). Yeah, two different LIs but nevertheless. And really would like Jack to be f-f as well. Different stories, different dialogue choices, different manners of speech. Such types as Tali only annoys me (as LIs as well), not always, but Tali is a good example of it. Seems men still prefer to be "white knights" saving poor girl or just take "good looks". Character development is not interesting for them. At least that is the tendancy in out world among players. It is not a bad thing, it is just like another characteristic of our society.
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Post by chonma on May 22, 2020 13:52:03 GMT
yes,i did the same about the geth-quarian conflict, always privilegied the geth because i just found the quarians being exagerately agressive, and unfair. quarian's obsessive hatred toward the geth (leading them to consider geth's destruction even more important than their own survival, judging by how extensively they used their own civil ships to do suicide missions against geths) did not let me any other choice than the final solution. (and since, during the current run, i even had the opportunity to visit some geth archives during an optionnal mission with legion on rannoch, it gave me the opportunity to wittness how, during the first geth-quarian conflict, quarians authorities just tryed to get rid of the few quarians that wanted to coexist with the geths) There are some reasonable quarians I have met, but in general agree 100 %. In short - they are stupid, their admirals are stupid. Some quarians managed to survive as I recall from codex, but races die out all the time because of different reasons, only in ths case it was the war. Tbh the devs themselves talked about quarians as if they hated them themselves. It is difficut to trust such race anyway. And yes, even Hackett says that the Geth has just fucking strong fleet. Period. They are more useful in war for obvious reasons. And as a race? It is another question but it is another universe with different laws. Imo, it is a race, still young but a new race. See nothing wrong with it. And using the laws of our unverse to judge the Geth is a mistake. But, as I said, "The geth is a race" is another and very huge question to discuss. i mean, to me, it seems very clear that her chara design has been carefully planned to appeal to the audience: feminine enough to catch male audience's favors, but not oversexualised + this kind of young, shy and vulnerable side that make the female audience see her as a vulnerable little sis they got to protect From what I see, exactly such LIs are popular. Or simple ass-pushing-the -camera-type. Know the type as Tali. My type is Jack (and Garrus). Yeah, two different LIs but nevertheless. And really would like Jack to be f-f as well. Different stories, different dialogue choices, different manners of speech. Such types as Tali only annoys me (as LIs as well), not always, but Tali is a good example of it. Seems men still prefer to be "white knights" saving poor girl or just take "good looks". Character development is not interesting for them. At least that is the tendancy in out world among players. It is not a bad thing, it is just like another characteristic of our society. in the quarians admirals, one was reasonable and honnourable (the old one that was complaining about the attack and who was critisizing the 3 others, and who , when i had to rescue him, told me to let him die and to save his suboridnates instead) but a good 3 out of 4 quarians are just braindead when it comes to the geth question (i also find funny how desperately they try to take back rannoch, despite the fact that there are other planets/areas that would be as good to live on. ) by the way, i don't know why in the game they use the term "race" despite the fact that we are talking about different species (at least in france, i don't know if it's the same in other EU countries and the US, but there, the term race is used to speak about one group within a specie. for exemple, in the specie of cats, there are multiple races). it feels like they tryed to inject a bit bluntly this word just to remind of the parralel with racism beetween different human civilisations in real life. about the utilitarian side of the geth vs quarians choice: yes geth seems far more worth it (aside for their bigger fleet and more advanced tech, they do also, because of their inherent characteristics, constitue a specie far better suited for warfare, since geths have the ability to share datas faster than quarians can do through the consensus, and since a geth platform take less time to produce than a potential quarrian warrior (to make a generation of quarrians warrior, you need to put multiple quarrians together, make them have babies, raise the babies until they become adult etc..., while for geth: just one platform alone, if having enough datas and raw ressources + few tools, could theorically build multiple platforms that could themselves do the same) and on the civiliation point of vew, even through the lens of the real life stuff, geth are still okay (since the only ones that does act in a expansionist matter are the heretics, the others just stay in their territory and try to develop their own stuff without outside interference, so, i do not see any problem with that. ) and judging by how things went smoothly with legion, it seems that it's easyer to have balanced and mutually profitable exchanges with the geth consensus than with most organic species. as for romances character, the physical apearance does play a rôle for pratically anybody (no one would seriously want to romance a vorcha, a rachni or a batarian for exemple) it does however take a bigger importance for most males yes. as for the different caracters of the ME trilogy, there are not a lot that i would appreciate as romance. most character fall either in the "cool and loyal comrades" category of my mind (like garrus, legion, wrex and grunt for exemple), either in the "annoying people that i will purge" category (like jack, miranda, ashley and james for exemple). i would have found interessing if there where romance options that belong to the synthetic side (especially since the ME trilogy's main question is about organics VS synthetics ) for exemple, if EDI was aivable (+ if her design was less sexualised, cuz i find they went a bit overkill with the curves proportion and the boobies size. [however i do like her face] ) i would have gone for it (and it could have been interessing to have close interraction with an character who's spirit is not organic, but sentient AI --> an consciousness that doesn't have social codes/rules/taboo while still being very knowledgeable and smart --> could have been a good occasion to think deeply about stuff like "what is love?"[baby don't hurt me, no more] "what objectively a feeling is?" "what is the real difference beetween just an automatic/instinctive pre-programmed reaction, and a real thing that come from the consciousness?" "what amount of honesty would be the best balance for a long-term relationship?" ) unfortunately, such romance option wasn't aivable however in MEA there was a character with a personality and a lore that i enjoy (in term of romancing): vetra. so, at least one ME romance that i can be fully happy about
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Post by Sonya on May 22, 2020 17:00:16 GMT
in the quarians admirals, one was reasonable and honnourable (the old one that was complaining about the attack and who was critisizing the 3 others, and who , when i had to rescue him, told me to let him die and to save his suboridnates instead) but a good 3 out of 4 quarians are just braindead when it comes to the geth question (i also find funny how desperately they try to take back rannoch, despite the fact that there are other planets/areas that would be as good to live on. ) Yes, Koris, who was an ass in ME2, but in ME3 was a hero. Only as usual, as Koris mentioned "don't even bother!". A war while others fighting the real enemy? They thought what? That Reapers would leave them? As mentioned: some smart quarians are met and Koris was one of them, though had to die because of three other idiots. it feels like they tryed to inject a bit bluntly this word just to remind of the parralel with racism beetween different human civilisations in real life. I think they just wanted to simplify matters. When it comes down to homo sapiens (or habitat in some cases) people used to the term "race" - a groupe based on shared physical or social qualities ....something (do not remember). The term "species" has more, let's just say, biological meaning and used in our world more often at least in terms of "biology" (e.g. you have mentioned cats). At least I see it that way. To make the game more popular it should be more familiar to people, somewhere more simple. But tbh, racism (at least some form of it) IS represented in MEU, with words or no. about the utilitarian side of the geth vs quarians choice: yes geth seems far more worth it (aside for their bigger fleet and more advanced tech, they do also, because of their inherent characteristics, constitue a specie far better suited for warfare, since geths have the ability to share datas faster than quarians can do through the consensus, and since a geth platform take less time to produce than a potential quarrian warrior (to make a generation of quarrians warrior, you need to put multiple quarrians together, make them have babies, raise the babies until they become adult etc..., while for geth: just one platform alone, if having enough datas and raw ressources + few tools, could theorically build multiple platforms that could themselves do the same) From utilitarian point of view it is indeed true. Though many players chose quarians because "TALI!!!!!!" or simple word "genocide". Does not matter that we can lose the war because we are so soft that can't be "cold-hearted dictators". We saved quarians, not some geth, so can live two days longer. War-time logic is a rare thing to meet. and on the civiliation point of vew, even through the lens of the real life stuff, geth are still okay (since the only ones that does act in a expansionist matter are the heretics, the others just stay in their territory and try to develop their own stuff without outside interference, so, i do not see any problem with that. ) and judging by how things went smoothly with legion, it seems that it's easyer to have balanced and mutually profitable exchanges with the geth consensus than with most organic species. That's the thing. For most players geth are simply a bunch of metal, if anything could load into another platform. Never mind that Legion could not do it, EDI as well, used singular pronoun. Such things already say that the Geth are not just walking metal robots. They evolve. As mentioned, people forget that MEU is another universe, with other laws. i would have found interessing if there where romance options that belong to the synthetic side I want Legion romance. Refreshing would have been. vetra. so, at least one ME romance that i can be fully happy about Romanced her as a male once. Though for me she is more like a sister. Her life is her sister and she is herself seems to me the same way. Still sympathique though.
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Post by chonma on May 22, 2020 17:45:08 GMT
in the quarians admirals, one was reasonable and honnourable (the old one that was complaining about the attack and who was critisizing the 3 others, and who , when i had to rescue him, told me to let him die and to save his suboridnates instead) but a good 3 out of 4 quarians are just braindead when it comes to the geth question (i also find funny how desperately they try to take back rannoch, despite the fact that there are other planets/areas that would be as good to live on. ) Yes, Koris, who was an ass in ME2, but in ME3 was a hero. Only as usual, as Koris mentioned "don't even bother!". A war while others fighting the real enemy? They thought what? That Reapers would leave them? As mentioned: some smart quarians are met and Koris was one of them, though had to die because of three other idiots. it feels like they tryed to inject a bit bluntly this word just to remind of the parralel with racism beetween different human civilisations in real life. I think they just wanted to simplify matters. When it comes down to homo sapiens (or habitat in some cases) people used to the term "race" - a groupe based on shared physical or social qualities ....something (do not remember). The term "species" has more, let's just say, biological meaning and used in our world more often at least in terms of "biology" (e.g. you have mentioned cats). At least I see it that way. To make the game more popular it should be more familiar to people, somewhere more simple. But tbh, racism (at least some form of it) IS represented in MEU, with words or no. about the utilitarian side of the geth vs quarians choice: yes geth seems far more worth it (aside for their bigger fleet and more advanced tech, they do also, because of their inherent characteristics, constitue a specie far better suited for warfare, since geths have the ability to share datas faster than quarians can do through the consensus, and since a geth platform take less time to produce than a potential quarrian warrior (to make a generation of quarrians warrior, you need to put multiple quarrians together, make them have babies, raise the babies until they become adult etc..., while for geth: just one platform alone, if having enough datas and raw ressources + few tools, could theorically build multiple platforms that could themselves do the same) From utilitarian point of view it is indeed true. Though many players chose quarians because "TALI!!!!!!" or simple word "genocide". Does not matter that we can lose the war because we are so soft that can't be "cold-hearted dictators". We saved quarians, not some geth, so can live two days longer. War-time logic is a rare thing to meet. and on the civiliation point of vew, even through the lens of the real life stuff, geth are still okay (since the only ones that does act in a expansionist matter are the heretics, the others just stay in their territory and try to develop their own stuff without outside interference, so, i do not see any problem with that. ) and judging by how things went smoothly with legion, it seems that it's easyer to have balanced and mutually profitable exchanges with the geth consensus than with most organic species. That's the thing. For most players geth are simply a bunch of metal, if anything could load into another platform. Never mind that Legion could not do it, EDI as well, used singular pronoun. Such things already say that the Geth are not just walking metal robots. They evolve. As mentioned, people forget that MEU is another universe, with other laws. i would have found interessing if there where romance options that belong to the synthetic side I want Legion romance. Refreshing would have been. vetra. so, at least one ME romance that i can be fully happy about Romanced her as a male once. Though for me she is more like a sister. Her life is her sister and she is herself seems to me the same way. Still sympathique though. yes, racism/discrimination is represented in ME, but in most cases (aside the use of the word race ) it's made in a more smooth way (for exemple, when you see in ME2, in the citadel, a volus accusing a female quarian to have stolen one of his belongings, and you see him saying stuff like "but i know she stole it! she's a quarian, how could it be otherwise?" ) and yeah, most people let their hard-on ...i mean love for tali guide their decision about geth VS quarrian issue. on top of that, the fact that they feel closer to quarians because they are organic like humans are ---> boom. you got the result. aside from the singular pronoun, we simply know that when multiple geth are in the same area, they add their processing power+ share datas to create a hive-mind/common-mind (exactly like ants, bees and some other insect species do irl...and insect are considered as living being ) therefore, geths are a living specie. the only difference is that their hardware is synthetic and not organic. a legion romance could have been interessing, especially since there's the tiny mistery thing about "why did you used, specifically, pîeces of my armor to fix the hole in your chest?" and when legion answer "data not aivable" ---> that could have been a way to amorce a romance beetween shepard and legion. about vetra in MEA, yeah, she's very protective and devoted toward her sis, but that + the fact that she kinda become devoted to ryder once you romance her (i still remember the scene when she tryes to prepair a surprise meal for you) make her adorable, it show she's caring a lot for people close to her, (and this very soft side does contrast with how she try to act when she's in combat [when fighting, she seems profesionnal and charismatic] ) and the scene when vetra and ryder does try to escalate a big rock together does show some kind of complicity that makes this romance feel more like a true romance (and less than mans1ay3r 's gamerpoop and the famous "we'll bang, ok?" )
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 22, 2020 18:38:37 GMT
"Tali's whoring behavior finally paid off I guess."-- Sonya Sonya, I'm shocked! It would be funny if Tali or other characters (other than James because we all know he gets around, the way he boasts about his body and all....such a man-whore, LOL), did sleep around, and if Shepard caught them. I wonder what the reprimand would be, or if there would even be one considering Shepard is (possibly) in a relationship him/herself. I mean, if she/he were in a relationship and he/she did scold a particular crew membering for sowing their oats all over the ship......That would kinda be like the munchkin calling the little person 'short', don't you think? I can see it now, Shepard making a general call over the Comm system. "There are two sets of rules aboard the Normandy, people. One for me and one for the rest of you. Namely, I can be in a relationship with [insert LI's name here: in my case it was Jack] if I damn well please so if you all hear all manner of strange sounds from my cabin, well you're just gonna have to get used to it. If any of you try to interrupt (Traynor) I'll have K-9 guarding the elevator exit to my cabin. Or I can jettison you out the nearest airlock. The other set of rules is that certain women *cough* Tali, *cough* Miranda, *cough* Samara, *cough* Ashley need to keep their gear on and clips fastened tightly at all times....and stay away from Lieutenant Vega. Especially you, L.C. Williams... Unless you want me to test the fire alarms again. I know you don't want a repeat of what happened last weekend when I found you on the floor of the starboard cargo hold after a night of heavy drinking with Vega. And let's just forget about the flirting session I interrupted during the party at my apartment. I know I'm trying to, my ears and eyes are still recovering from the hemorrhage. Bottom line: Keep it locked, people, or I will have you all sit through one of Mordin's sessions on precautionary measures for human reproduction and you know how long-winded he can be. Shepard Out. Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention: Liara, Garrus thinks you're really............ blue. Oh, and Grunt found a blue rock, he would very much like to give you. He told me it reminded him of you and made comparisons between its beauty and yours." *Mic drop* (Moments later from three decks away in the Port Cargo hold.....the entire ship shakes like an earthquake has struck and echoes vibrate off the hull as Grunt can be heard yelling "SHEPARD!!!!" when he realizes he was just outed. The Rumbling continues and gets louder and more violent as Grunt lumbers through the ship searching for Shepard. Garrus cuts in over the comm and shouts "Look out! Rampaging Krogan!"). Shepard. What a bastard, eh?
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Post by chonma on May 22, 2020 18:55:24 GMT
"Tali's whoring behavior finally paid off I guess."-- Sonya Sonya, I'm shocked! It would be funny if Tali or other characters (other than James because we all know he gets around, the way he boasts about his body and all....such a man-whore, LOL), did sleep around, and if Shepard caught them. I wonder what the reprimand would be, or if there would even be one considering Shepard is (possibly) in a relationship him/herself. I mean, if she/he were in a relationship and he/she did scold a particular crew membering for sowing their oats all over the ship......That would kinda be like the munchkin calling the little person 'short', don't you think? I can see it now, Shepard making a general call over the Comm system. "There are two sets of rules aboard the Normandy, people. One for me and one for the rest of you. Namely, I can be in a relationship with [insert LI's name here: in my case it was Jack] if I damn well please so if you all hear all manner of strange sounds from my cabin, well you're just gonna have to get used to it. If any of you try to interrupt (Traynor) I'll have K-9 guarding the elevator exit to my cabin. Or I can jettison you out the nearest airlock. The other set of rules is that certain women *cough* Tali, *cough* Miranda, *cough* Samara, *cough* Ashley need to keep their gear on and clips fastened tightly at all times....and stay away from Lieutenant Vega. Especially you, L.C. Williams... Unless you want me to test the fire alarms again. I know you don't want a repeat of what happened last weekend when I found you on the floor of the starboard cargo hold after a night of heavy drinking with Vega. And let's just forget about the flirting session I interrupted during the party at my apartment. I know I'm trying to, my ears and eyes are still recovering from the hemorrhage. Bottom line: Keep it locked, people, or I will have you all sit through one of Mordin's sessions on precautionary measures for human reproduction and you know how long-winded he can be. Shepard Out. Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention: Liara, Garrus thinks you're really............ blue. Oh, and Grunt found a blue rock, he would very much like to give you. He told me it reminded him of you and made comparisons between its beauty and yours." *Mic drop* (Moments later from three decks away in the Port Cargo hold.....the entire ship shakes like an earthquake has struck and Grunt can be heard yelling "SHEPARD!!!!" as he realizes he was just outed). Shepard. What a bastard, eh? with shepard as the commander of the ship, and judging by the size of shepard's bed and the space in the room: shepards and the crews would be in fact, more or less in a constant orgy. it's maybe part of shepard's strategy to win against the reapers: make soooo, much of it that everyone catches all of the potential STDs that may exist in the entire universe, so that, if the reaper forces do, through fight/capture enter in contact with one of the crews or more: boom, the deaseases will spread and the entire reapers forces will be decimated
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Post by burningcherry on May 22, 2020 21:30:09 GMT
The utilitarian reason to choose quarians above geth is that they're practically impossible to indoctrinate on their fleet while the geth already become "indoctrinated" voluntarily twice. The first case was retconned as a fraction's doing and the rest is only guilty for letting them go and not informing the galaxy about them or the Reapers, the second case is much more troubling. Submitting to the Reapers is never a way of self-preservation (unless in a Reaper form but that's a dubious way of thinking), they only chose to die fighting for the Reapers instead of dying fighting for themselves. As such, they've reached the bottom of reliability. People like to bring up Gerrel's barrage on the dreadnought all while forgetting which side of that conflict kept attacking us for the past 3 games.
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Post by chonma on May 23, 2020 6:14:48 GMT
The utilitarian reason to choose quarians above geth is that they're practically impossible to indoctrinate on their fleet while the geth already become "indoctrinated" voluntarily twice. The first case was retconned as a fraction's doing and the rest is only guilty for letting them go and not informing the galaxy about them or the Reapers, the second case is much more troubling. Submitting to the Reapers is never a way of self-preservation (unless in a Reaper form but that's a dubious way of thinking), they only chose to die fighting for the Reapers instead of dying fighting for themselves. As such, they've reached the bottom of reliability. People like to bring up Gerrel's barrage on the dreadnought all while forgetting which side of that conflict kept attacking us for the past 3 games. quarians being organic, i do think the dragon-teeth method would still work to turn them into husk. and even if it was impossible, the fact that the quarrians preferred to spend everything they had fighting against the geth despite everyone knowing about the reapers....it doesn't make quarrians more reliable. as for the geth that choose reaper side ---> do we know if reapers only harvest organic species, or if they do harvest synthetics too? (because in the current cycle, geth are the only synthetic civilisation, and for the previous cycle we don't know if any synthetics did reached the point of independent civilisation) also, because geth where seen as ennemies since the beginning of their existance, i highly doubt they could have send a geth platform to the concilian space to tell everyone "hey, the heretics are doing weird stuff with the space-shrimp" (the concilian species would have shot the geth platform in question) don't forget that AI are prohibited on the concilian space, so, geths would have an hard time telling the concil about this. (and looking at the isolationist way the consensus has been, the plan about the space-shrimp invasion was probably to just hide a part of the consensus somewhere and let the storm pass away, and just wait until this cycle's harvesting is done, and then pop out, and then, beginning a new cycle without starting from zero and knowing what will happen, spend the next 50 000 years to just prepair an full out war against the space-shrimp) and even if they tryed to tell the concil (and did not get shot in the process) the concil wouldnt have listened anyway. (i mean, they did not listened to shepard, so, why would they listen a geth?) and btw, nice profil pic: 100% kek
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Post by Sonya on May 23, 2020 7:05:03 GMT
Maybe the definition of the word "whoring oneself" does its job. For me "whoring" does not only mean sleeping with people. Flirting with others while you have relationship with another person is also "whoring". Maybe you know about the following and saw and heard it yourself. There are vids in the internet where Tali is flirting over the comm (for me "whoring") with Garrus. If they both are not romanced, fine. But male Shepard is standing near the love of his life listening how she (Tali) is flirting with another one? There are three vids with hell of angry comments about it. Male players are angry at Garrus, female - at Tali. I did not make it up and it is not some fantasy of my own. It is obvious Tali IS flirting. And obvious not only for me. But I just use the term "whoring" (explained why). Serious business, you know. For me, as a person, such behavior is unacceptable if Tali is my LI (guess I should have picked...ahh...nobody) or Garrus is my LI (from Tali it is a backstab, nothing else). I will have you all sit through one of Mordin's sessions After some events they anyway deserved it, Shepard is smart to tell that. general call over the Comm system. Yep, it is indeed very funny. Bottom line of it: there is nothing to be shocked about.
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Post by chonma on May 23, 2020 7:25:29 GMT
Maybe the definition of the word "whoring oneself" does its job. For me "whoring" does not only mean sleeping with people. Flirting with others while you have relationship with another person is also "whoring". Maybe you know about the following and saw and heard it yourself. There are vids in the internet where Tali is flirting over the comm (for me "whoring") with Garrus. If they both are not romanced, fine. But male Shepard is standing near the love of his life listening how she (Tali) is flirting with another one? There are three vids with hell of angry comments about it. Male players are angry at Garrus, female - at Tali.I did not make it up and it is not some fantasy of my own. It is obvious Tali IS flirting. And obvious not only for me.But I just use the term "whoring" (explained why). Serious business, you know. For me, as a person, such behavior is unacceptable if Tali is my LI (guess I should have picked...ahh...nobody) or Garrus is my LI (from Tali it is a backstab, nothing else). I will have you all sit through one of Mordin's sessions After some events they anyway deserved it, Shepard is smart to tell that. general call over the Comm system. Yep, it is indeed very funny. Bottom line of it: there is nothing to be shocked about. damn! wasn't even aware that could happen. and garrus don't repel/push her back? he does fall for her anyway even if one of them is romanced by shepard?
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Post by Sonya on May 23, 2020 7:28:04 GMT
it's made in a more smooth way There is a huge potentianl to show it in MEU, if not for that reaper war. and yeah, most people let their hard-on ...i mean love for tali guide their decision about geth VS quarrian issue. on top of that, the fact that they feel closer to quarians because they are organic like humans are ---> boom. you got the result. Have mentioned vids in the internet and comments. People indeed write "If not for Tali, I would have chosen the geth". "Genocide of the whole race? Are you mad?!" The only thing that matters (fot some two if Tali is LI) is that quarians are organics and people, organics themselves can't chose the geth even if think the geth are better for ..."reasons". Again, did not make it up, real comments under such vids. aside from the singular pronoun, we simply know that when multiple geth are in the same area, they add their processing power+ share datas to create a hive-mind/common-mind (exactly like ants, bees and some other insect species do irl...and insect are considered as living being ) therefore, geths are a living specie. the only difference is that their hardware is synthetic and not organic. I understand, others not. A geth is metal, nothing else. a legion romance could have been interessing, especially since there's the tiny mistery thing about "why did you used, specifically, pîeces of my armor to fix the hole in your chest?" and when legion answer "data not aivable" ---> that could have been a way to amorce a romance beetween shepard and legion For me it would be interesing, though about "n7 armor part". "No data available - another indicator that the Geth did something he could not explain. For now at least. Organics could give reasons, but Legion is like EDI on LUNA (remember what she said about that all in ME3?), he just was in one stage of changing. That is why 'no data available". about vetra in MEA, yeah, she's very protective and devoted toward her sis, but that + the fact that she kinda become devoted to ryder once you romance her (i still remember the scene when she tryes to prepair a surprise meal for you) make her adorable, it show she's caring a lot for people close to her, (and this very soft side does contrast with how she try to act when she's in combat [when fighting, she seems profesionnal and charismatic] ) and the scene when vetra and ryder does try to escalate a big rock together does show some kind of complicity that makes this romance feel more like a true romance (and less than mans1ay3r 's gamerpoop and the famous "we'll bang, ok?" ) I understand what you mean, like those moments as well, though still can see her only as a sister. There are others about whom I can think only as about friends/teammates, no "love" thought at all even: Miri, Jacob, Thane Ash etc. Though most of them I like. Jack and only Jack (and Garrus).
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Post by Sonya on May 23, 2020 7:34:07 GMT
and garrus don't repel/push her back? he does fall for her anyway even if one of them is romanced by shepard? Well, you know Garrus: he can't understand that somebody is hitting on him unti you just tell him that. Or make a move yourself. During those flirtings he answered as usual, w/o changing his voice for "flirting" mode as Tali did.
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Post by burningcherry on May 23, 2020 7:50:42 GMT
The utilitarian reason to choose quarians above geth is that they're practically impossible to indoctrinate on their fleet while the geth already become "indoctrinated" voluntarily twice. The first case was retconned as a fraction's doing and the rest is only guilty for letting them go and not informing the galaxy about them or the Reapers, the second case is much more troubling. Submitting to the Reapers is never a way of self-preservation (unless in a Reaper form but that's a dubious way of thinking), they only chose to die fighting for the Reapers instead of dying fighting for themselves. As such, they've reached the bottom of reliability. People like to bring up Gerrel's barrage on the dreadnought all while forgetting which side of that conflict kept attacking us for the past 3 games. quarians being organic, i do think the dragon-teeth method would still work to turn them into husk. They barely spend their time outside the fleet though. Everyone was told about the Reapers but barely anyone saw anything convincing enough to believe. If you mean attacking Rannoch mid-Reaper war then source because the only detailed supposed chronology of events I saw puts the quarian attack on Rannoch before the Reaper invasion on Palaven and Earth. I suppose they do but that's just my intuition and can't provide any source. They're knows to have put information on the extranet when they told that salarian cult that the stars above some planet lok like their goddess. No technical problem giving it a shot and forwarding their knowledge about Reapers. Vigil claims the rear guard Reaper controls the galaxy periodically and makes sure it doesn't happen. Wonder where the 50k cycle idea is from though, civilizations reaching the space should be a memory-less process. It doesn't need driving a platform to the Citadel, just put all you have on the extranet in an anyway probably futile attempt to convince someone. Thanks, it' a rare one. I lost the only full-res copy.
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Post by chonma on May 23, 2020 8:04:42 GMT
it's made in a more smooth way There is a huge potentianl to show it in MEU, if not for that reaper war. and yeah, most people let their hard-on ...i mean love for tali guide their decision about geth VS quarrian issue. on top of that, the fact that they feel closer to quarians because they are organic like humans are ---> boom. you got the result. Have mentioned vids in the internet and comments. People indeed write "If not for Tali, I would have chosen the geth". "Genocide of the whole race? Are you mad?!" The only thing that matters (fot some two if Tali is LI) is that quarians are organics and people, organics themselves can't chose the geth even if think the geth are better for ..."reasons". Again, did not make it up, real comments under such vids. aside from the singular pronoun, we simply know that when multiple geth are in the same area, they add their processing power+ share datas to create a hive-mind/common-mind (exactly like ants, bees and some other insect species do irl...and insect are considered as living being ) therefore, geths are a living specie. the only difference is that their hardware is synthetic and not organic. I understand, others not. A geth is metal, nothing else. a legion romance could have been interessing, especially since there's the tiny mistery thing about "why did you used, specifically, pîeces of my armor to fix the hole in your chest?" and when legion answer "data not aivable" ---> that could have been a way to amorce a romance beetween shepard and legion For me it would be interesing, though about "n7 armor part". "No data available - another indicator that the Geth did something he could not explain. For now at least. Organics could give reasons, but Legion is like EDI on LUNA (remember what she said about that all in ME3?), he just was in one stage of changing. That is why 'no data available". about vetra in MEA, yeah, she's very protective and devoted toward her sis, but that + the fact that she kinda become devoted to ryder once you romance her (i still remember the scene when she tryes to prepair a surprise meal for you) make her adorable, it show she's caring a lot for people close to her, (and this very soft side does contrast with how she try to act when she's in combat [when fighting, she seems profesionnal and charismatic] ) and the scene when vetra and ryder does try to escalate a big rock together does show some kind of complicity that makes this romance feel more like a true romance (and less than mans1ay3r 's gamerpoop and the famous "we'll bang, ok?" ) I understand what you mean, like those moments as well, though still can see her only as a sister. There are others about whom I can think only as about friends/teammates, no "love" thought at all even: Miri, Jacob, Thane Ash etc. Though most of them I like. Jack and only Jack (and Garrus). yes. if they made a spin-off game where your character's duty is closer to the everyday life in the MEU (let's say, for exemple, a game where you are an C-sec officer and need to investigate some crimes in the citadel ) they could really show ton of it without feeling like it's bluntly injected into the game. yeah, a lots of people's ethics /moral compass is unconsistent and full of double-standards. leading to decisions that are irrationnal, innefective, and on top of that, less "good" on the long run. it's a possibility. another one could be he just doesn't want to give the reason (add on that the fact that the first time where shepard does talk with legion is recorded in the important events in the geth consensus archives that you can "visit" during an ME3 mission on rannoch + during ME2, the first time you see him, he does sniper-shot a husk that was running at you [and that did not represent a threat to him] ) also, the reason why legion found shepard's armor pieces was because he was searching for his presumed dead body near the normandy-SR1 's destruction position.
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Post by chonma on May 23, 2020 8:12:19 GMT
and garrus don't repel/push her back? he does fall for her anyway even if one of them is romanced by shepard? Well, you know Garrus: he can't understand that somebody is hitting on him unti you just tell him that. Or make a move yourself. During those flirtings he answered as usual, w/o changing his voice for "flirting" mode as Tali did.
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okay i was scared that tali managed to make it clear/direct enough for garrus to understand and that he felt for her. but it seems that his lack of understanding prevented this from happening (making garrus completely thot-proof)
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Post by Sonya on May 23, 2020 8:25:23 GMT
The utilitarian reason to choose quarians above geth is that they're practically impossible to indoctrinate on their fleet while the geth already become "indoctrinated" voluntarily twice. The first case was retconned as a fraction's doing and the rest is only guilty for letting them go and not informing the galaxy about them or the Reapers, the second case is much more troubling. Submitting to the Reapers is never a way of self-preservation (unless in a Reaper form but that's a dubious way of thinking), they only chose to die fighting for the Reapers instead of dying fighting for themselves. As such, they've reached the bottom of reliability. People like to bring up Gerrel's barrage on the dreadnought all while forgetting which side of that conflict kept attacking us for the past 3 games. To chose the Geth is a risk (you explained why), though quarians still can be indoctrinated (almost impossible does not mean imposssible at all). So it is also a risk. Considering that the quarians are unstable element (take events in ME3) the risk to take them in is becoming bigger as well as with the geth. Attacking the geth while others are busy protecting their homes? Irratianl and really a backstab move. Considering their fleet they could have helped. But in in the game they thought only about themselves and not about the future - yes, they won, took their home back, but while doing that other races have been destroyed/became weaker/ etc. Who's next? Understand their move but it is really irrational and trusting them (including that ME2 trial) is difficult. Taking the quarians from utilitarian point of view is also a huge risk. They are organics, and one of organics characteristic - to be irrational in some cases. Such situation is demonstrated to us.
The first case was retconned as a fraction's doing and the rest is only guilty for letting them go and not informing the galaxy about them or the Reapers, the second case is much more troubling. Submitting to the Reapers is never a way of self-preservation (unless in a Reaper form but that's a dubious way of thinking), they only chose to die fighting for the Reapers instead of dying fighting for themselves This part, don't you think you judge the whole sitiation from the point of view of "others"? What I mean: would not you do anything to protect your people? Legion/VI attacks you. Tali/whatever her name are begging. I bet a human/asari/batarian/other races would have done the same thing as Legion to protect their peoples. I am a geth. Others hate me and my people. But I do not want to die. What should I do if the first thing I get is a bullet? What is left? I know what the reapers are doing, though it does not mean I let my people die. Making "friends" with the reapers was the way out; at least one of them (Legion in one subquest convinced Primes to work with us). It is troubling as you have said, though taking in the quarians is no less troubling as well.
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