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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Jan 20, 2017 22:21:27 GMT
Bummer. Was hoping DX12 would fix that. Sounds like its up to the devs, however and I'm not sure they want to tackle something like that. Only thing I can think to do is sell 'em both and go with an upgraded single card. BUT, I had a thought that if I am getting below 4GB VRAM for 4K on DA:I I am wondering if I might be OK with ME:A at 1440p. the problem though is that unless I want to wait for Vega or 1080-Ti comes out, I'm not sure what card I would want to get... Thoughts? If you want to sell your dual 980s, then just go for the GTX 1060 with 6 GB VRAM, this card has reasonable price, is powerful and will last for at least 2 years without such worries about VRAM. Now, if you really want to upgrade to something very potent, get the GTX 1070 with 8 GB of VRAM. Don't bother with GTX 1080 / 1080 Ti... those are top tier Nvidia cards this generation yes, but with their huge price its simply not worth it considering their gains over GTX 1070.... If I am upgrading to to single card I want as close to the best that I can get. I don't want to dick around is "decent." I was under the impression I might be able to get at least a 1080 with what I could sell the 980s for. Never sold a GPU before, however. Will check that now. Also, I think you neglected that I want to play on 1440p? I don't think a 1060 can do max at that res.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 22:34:10 GMT
If you want to sell your dual 980s, then just go for the GTX 1060 with 6 GB VRAM, this card has reasonable price, is powerful and will last for at least 2 years without such worries about VRAM. Now, if you really want to upgrade to something very potent, get the GTX 1070 with 8 GB of VRAM. Don't bother with GTX 1080 / 1080 Ti... those are top tier Nvidia cards this generation yes, but with their huge price its simply not worth it considering their gains over GTX 1070.... If I am upgrading to to single card I want as close to the best that I can get. I don't want to dick around is "decent." I was under the impression I might be able to get at least a 1080 with what I could sell the 980s for. Never sold a GPU before, however. Will check that now. Also, I think you neglected that I want to play on 1440p? I don't think a 1060 can do max at that res. If you want to get the best GPU and don't have problems with shelling out a lot of cash for it. Then get 1080 or wait for 1080 Ti... its that simple.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 22:52:12 GMT
If you want to get the best GPU and don't have problems with shelling out a lot of cash for it. Then get 1080 or wait for 1080 Ti... its that simple. I was just looking up some things. I can prolly get away with selling them for about 230-260 a pop. That might be enough to get a 1080. Thing is though that the 1080 is behind the 980s in SLI so I would actually be losing performance. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487244And you also "lose" increased power consumption, heat, problems related to using SLI in games ect... I think that would speak in favor of GTX 1080.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Jan 20, 2017 22:58:44 GMT
I was just looking up some things. I can prolly get away with selling them for about 230-260 a pop. That might be enough to get a 1080. Thing is though that the 1080 is behind the 980s in SLI so I would actually be losing performance. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487244And you also "lose" increased power consumption, heat, problems related to using SLI in games ect... I think that would speak in favor of GTX 1080. The takeaway here is that I am going to sit on it for now. IF the 1080 Ti comes I might go that way. OR I might go Vega (cuz more bang for your buck).
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Post by Muddy Boots on Jan 20, 2017 23:03:54 GMT
I feel like I'm the only person who didn't have major issues with DA:I when it came out. The one issue I did have was fixed once Nvidia update their drivers. Same here. I never had any issues wityh DA:I. I'm hoping the same holds true with ME:A.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Jan 20, 2017 23:05:31 GMT
I feel like I'm the only person who didn't have major issues with DA:I when it came out. The one issue I did have was fixed once Nvidia update their drivers. Same here. I never had any issues wityh DA:I. I'm hoping the same holds true with ME:A. I'm right there with you guys on that.
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Post by Artemis on Jan 21, 2017 5:18:45 GMT
Technically, 2K and 1440p aren't the same. 2K is resolutions at 2048 wide (there was never an assigned "official" length). 1440p is 2560x1440, which is likely to be superior anyway. Honestly, 1440p is the sweet spot for PC gaming, IMO. Especially when you run at 144Hz. So a monitor that runs at 1440p with HDR would be, IMO, the best place to go. YES! I made the move from console to PC when DAI came out. I also bought Skyrim. Recently I bought Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen. And my conclusion is that it depends on the game/developer. Day 1 for DAI I couldn't play it because I needed a driver update. Once the driver donwloaded, I started making my character. Half an hour into the CC the game crashed. This was to be a recurring theme for the next few months. The game crashed, froze, had strange bugs, etc. Now that it has been patched out the wazoo (something like 12 patches??) it runs more smoothly, though it still crashes to desktop from time to time. Skyrim also occasionally freezes or crashes, but not very often. DD:DA is rock solid. If you have console you experience NONE of this. IMO the only reason to have PC is mods. Otherwise I would have bought an xbox one... so much cheaper, and NO crashing, no freezing, no weird bugs. EDIT: You also don't have to worry about updating your console. Not a big deal if you're PC savvy (as you seem to be) but for me it's a constant headache. I know nothing about the interior guts of a PC. It's nerve-wracking and makes me feel like I wasted my money buying something that has to be constantly upgraded. By that same token, you can have no issues. I had no issues with DAI on PC when it released. I never experienced any crashing that other people reported. Additionally, I would disagree with the only reason to go PC is mods. You can get higher resolution, better graphical fidelity and, most importantly, 60 FPS on pretty much every game. And to say that you experience no issues on consoles is just false. Yes, it's more possible on PC just because of the amount of possible spec combinations, but recent console releases have shown that framerate issues, stuttering and crashes do happen on consoles as well. I'm not advocating one platform or the other (I'm probably getting ME:A on both PC and PS4 at some point) but to say that PC is such a hassle based on one case (and to say that consoles have no issues) is kind of false. I understand where you're coming from, but it isn't false for me. They only asked for anyone's experience with PC versus console, so I gave mine. That's all I can really do. It has been a massive headache and huge source of stress for me. I never felt this way about xbox, never felt like throwing my machine out the window because something wasn't working. I've spent hours on the phone with Dell trying to figure out why my screen went black or why the computer won't turn on. I had to replace the power supply once and didn't even realize that was the problem b/c I am not knowledgable enough to diagnose PC hardware problems; I had to sent the PC to my dad (who is retired but once worked on computers for a living) and he was able to figure out what the issue was. Like I said, IF you are knowledgdeable about PC it may not be a problem. If you're an average person like me (smart, used PCs all my life, but doesn't really know the nitty-gritty stuff) it is a huge hassle. For me, the mods make it worth it. I have seen videos of xbox one v. ps4 v. PC and I see little difference. If that is a big deal for someone, then obviously they should buy accordingly. As for me, the graphics are obviously a step up from my xbox 360, but i've played my brother in law's xbox one and it looks just as amazing as my PC. YES! I made the move from console to PC when DAI came out. I also bought Skyrim. Recently I bought Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen. And my conclusion is that it depends on the game/developer. Day 1 for DAI I couldn't play it because I needed a driver update. Once the driver donwloaded, I started making my character. Half an hour into the CC the game crashed. This was to be a recurring theme for the next few months. The game crashed, froze, had strange bugs, etc. Now that it has been patched out the wazoo (something like 12 patches??) it runs more smoothly, though it still crashes to desktop from time to time. Skyrim also occasionally freezes or crashes, but not very often. DD:DA is rock solid. If you have console you experience NONE of this. IMO the only reason to have PC is mods. Otherwise I would have bought an xbox one... so much cheaper, and NO crashing, no freezing, no weird bugs. EDIT: You also don't have to worry about updating your console. Not a big deal if you're PC savvy (as you seem to be) but for me it's a constant headache. I know nothing about the interior guts of a PC. It's nerve-wracking and makes me feel like I wasted my money buying something that has to be constantly upgraded. See, that's exactly what I'm worried about. I've almost never encountered any game breaking bugs or glitches on my console games on release (they usually have a day one patch) and I'd like to have that be the case for ME:A. I can't imagine much worse in the gaming realm that finally coming home after work and pulling up that new Mass Effect and not being able to play it straight away. For this reason, I purchased Gears of War 4 on my Xbox One (that and that's where the majority of my online friends are compared to PC) and had no problems. Whereas, my roommate purchased it for PC and planned on doing the cross platform with us and he still hasn't been able to play the game properly. That's why I'm wondering if I should do the same with ME:A. But that'll make me feel like I have this PC for nothing. lmao (I'm not very PC savvy myself either, had a friend help build my rig haha, so... no worries) Yep. Your friend's experience with GOW4 sounds way too familiar. That's what owning a gaming PC is like for a regular person (like us lol). For me, the pay off is there; I would not have played DAI hardly at all if I didn't have mods. Same with Skyrim, same with Sims. MEA? I think it will be a great game out of the box, so I almost wish I had an xbox one just for that. If I had the funds I'd buy one right now. I just know I'll download MEA from Origin and SOMETHING will go wrong. That's just how it is.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 21, 2017 6:10:12 GMT
See, that's exactly what I'm worried about. I've almost never encountered any game breaking bugs or glitches on my console games on release (they usually have a day one patch) and I'd like to have that be the case for ME:A. I can't imagine much worse in the gaming realm that finally coming home after work and pulling up that new Mass Effect and not being able to play it straight away. For this reason, I purchased Gears of War 4 on my Xbox One (that and that's where the majority of my online friends are compared to PC) and had no problems. Whereas, my roommate purchased it for PC and planned on doing the cross platform with us and he still hasn't been able to play the game properly. That's why I'm wondering if I should do the same with ME:A. But that'll make me feel like I have this PC for nothing. lmao (I'm not very PC savvy myself either, had a friend help build my rig haha, so... no worries) Yep. Your friend's experience with GOW4 sounds way too familiar. That's what owning a gaming PC is like for a regular person (like us lol). For me, the pay off is there; I would not have played DAI hardly at all if I didn't have mods. Same with Skyrim, same with Sims. MEA? I think it will be a great game out of the box, so I almost wish I had an xbox one just for that. If I had the funds I'd buy one right now. I just know I'll download MEA from Origin and SOMETHING will go wrong. That's just how it is. I haven't had a problem yet, but I've only gotten one game on release day. Oh for sure, it's totally worth it for mods for games like Skyrim. (Currently modding Skyrim SE) But I really got this for the pretty graphics for my favorite games. Aka Mass Effect. haha Hopefully my pc will handle it fine and all will go well. Thank you for your input! (And shoutouts to being in the non PC innards literate club ) Still think I may just buy the standard xbox one edition too... just to be safe. lol
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Post by unclee on Jan 21, 2017 13:27:15 GMT
If I am upgrading to to single card I want as close to the best that I can get. I don't want to dick around is "decent." I was under the impression I might be able to get at least a 1080 with what I could sell the 980s for. Never sold a GPU before, however. Will check that now. Also, I think you neglected that I want to play on 1440p? I don't think a 1060 can do max at that res. If you want to get the best GPU and don't have problems with shelling out a lot of cash for it. Then get 1080 or wait for 1080 Ti... its that simple. If someone was looking at a 1080 I'd highly recommend waiting for the 1080Ti. It's just way to close to releasing. It'll be similarly priced to the 1080 but have better performance. If you don't want to go with a 1080 then a 1070 can handle 1440p just fine.
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Post by Pearl on Jan 22, 2017 2:30:12 GMT
If someone was looking at a 1080 I'd highly recommend waiting for the 1080Ti. It's just way to close to releasing. It'll be similarly priced to the 1080 but have better performance. If you don't want to go with a 1080 then a 1070 can handle 1440p just fine. 980 > 980Ti was a $150 price gap when it first came out, if memory serves. I wouldn't call that "similarly priced", although if you're already building a system that uses top-of-the-line hardware, it won't mean very much. But waiting for the 1080Ti is a good idea if you're dead set on going with the green team. Plus if AMD actually manages to compete this time around, they could always undercut Nvidia's prices, forcing a response that will make everyone's wallets a little happier.
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Post by Elessar on Jan 22, 2017 2:51:10 GMT
If I am upgrading to to single card I want as close to the best that I can get. I don't want to dick around is "decent." I was under the impression I might be able to get at least a 1080 with what I could sell the 980s for. Never sold a GPU before, however. Will check that now. Also, I think you neglected that I want to play on 1440p? I don't think a 1060 can do max at that res. If you want to get the best GPU and don't have problems with shelling out a lot of cash for it. Then get 1080 or wait for 1080 Ti... its that simple. With Vega coming out, it's not that simple.
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Post by Pearl on Jan 22, 2017 3:03:21 GMT
I'm confident in saying that I think the flagship Vega card will outperform a current 1080. However, Nvidia is obviously holding back the 1080 Ti until they see what AMD has in store, plus there's that Pascal refresh that's inevitably coming later in the year. The graphics card market is going to become very interesting, at least for a few months. Only time will tell if Vega can compete with a 1080 Ti or Volta (whenever that comes out).
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Post by derrame on Jan 22, 2017 3:30:42 GMT
for 60 fps: minimum: gtx 1080 8gb vram recommended: gtx 1080ti
the graphics, lighting, shadow and particles effects in this game will require a lot of graphic processing power
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Post by Cypher on Jan 22, 2017 9:13:32 GMT
for 60 fps: minimum: gtx 1080 8gb vram recommended: gtx 1080ti the graphics, lighting, shadow and particles effects in this game will require a lot of graphic processing power If that were the case, Andromeda would be the most unoptimized piece of garbage since Arkham Knight and we'd all be better off abstaining from it on all platforms since anything that would require a 1080 at minimum wouldn't be able run on a PS4.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 10:05:09 GMT
for 60 fps: minimum: gtx 1080 8gb vram recommended: gtx 1080ti the graphics, lighting, shadow and particles effects in this game will require a lot of graphic processing power LOL.. More like: minimum GTX 1050 2GB, recommended GTX 1070 8GB or even GTX 1060 6GB, but will see. Also knowing how well Frostbite is supporting multicore CPU's, I think people with AMD's FX should be safe too About system RAM I predict 4-6GB minimum and 8-12GB recommended.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 10:28:33 GMT
for 60 fps: minimum: gtx 1080 8gb vram recommended: gtx 1080ti the graphics, lighting, shadow and particles effects in this game will require a lot of graphic processing power If those were the real reqs in terms of GPU... we would watch ME:A sales drop from predicted millions to mere thousands....
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Post by Cypher on Jan 22, 2017 21:18:12 GMT
for 60 fps: minimum: gtx 1080 8gb vram recommended: gtx 1080ti the graphics, lighting, shadow and particles effects in this game will require a lot of graphic processing power LOL.. More like: minimum GTX 1050 2GB, recommended GTX 1070 8GB or even GTX 1060 6GB, but will see. Also knowing how well Frostbite is supporting multicore CPU's, I think people with AMD's FX should be safe too About system RAM I predict 4-6GB minimum and 8-12GB recommended. Even a 1050 is too goddamn high. BF1 "requires" a GTX 660/Radeon 7850 at minimum. And realistically, it can run on hardware weaker than those. There's no way in hell that Andromeda requires anything higher specced than Battlefield.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Jan 22, 2017 22:03:51 GMT
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Post by missileglitcher on Jan 22, 2017 22:16:08 GMT
for 60 fps: minimum: gtx 1080 8gb vram recommended: gtx 1080ti the graphics, lighting, shadow and particles effects in this game will require a lot of graphic processing power If that were the case, Andromeda would be the most unoptimized piece of garbage since Arkham Knight and we'd all be better off abstaining from it on all platforms since anything that would require a 1080 at minimum wouldn't be able run on a PS4. Consoles can't really "run" games. What they do is take a game, introduce a ton of lag, crank down the visual effects all the way down to a minimum, set the frame rate at 20 fps and the resolution at 1080p. That's how consoles run games. They completely ruin the gaming experience. I'm surprised people actually enjoy gaming on consoles.
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If that were the case, Andromeda would be the most unoptimized piece of garbage since Arkham Knight and we'd all be better off abstaining from it on all platforms since anything that would require a 1080 at minimum wouldn't be able run on a PS4. Consoles can't really "run" games. What they do is take a game, introduce a ton of lag, crank down the visual effects all the way down to a minimum, set the frame rate at 20 fps and the resolution at 1080p. That's how consoles run games. They completely ruin the gaming experience. I'm surprised people actually enjoy gaming on consoles. Yeah... Now try to explain that to the console lovers I will always pick a PC over a console.
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Post by Cypher on Jan 22, 2017 22:47:03 GMT
If that were the case, Andromeda would be the most unoptimized piece of garbage since Arkham Knight and we'd all be better off abstaining from it on all platforms since anything that would require a 1080 at minimum wouldn't be able run on a PS4. Consoles can't really "run" games. What they do is take a game, introduce a ton of lag, crank down the visual effects all the way down to a minimum, set the frame rate at 20 fps and the resolution at 1080p. That's how consoles run games. They completely ruin the gaming experience. I'm surprised people actually enjoy gaming on consoles. I'm not even going to dignify this with a proper response.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Jan 22, 2017 22:50:21 GMT
If that were the case, Andromeda would be the most unoptimized piece of garbage since Arkham Knight and we'd all be better off abstaining from it on all platforms since anything that would require a 1080 at minimum wouldn't be able run on a PS4. Consoles can't really "run" games. What they do is take a game, introduce a ton of lag, crank down the visual effects all the way down to a minimum, set the frame rate at 20 fps and the resolution at 1080p. That's how consoles run games. They completely ruin the gaming experience. I'm surprised people actually enjoy gaming on consoles. Consols are the bread and butter of the gaming world. You want to try that again?
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