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Post by Pearl on Jan 28, 2017 3:33:00 GMT
I would love to replace the card but don't know how. As for the power supply, wouldn't that just encompass buying a new one? I wouldn't have to open the PC up or anything, right? Sorry for my ignorance ^^ I am hoping maybe I could replace the card myself using a youtube video or something..... If you buy a new power supply, you will have to open up the PC to install it. This will involve turning off your PC, unplugging it from the wall/power strip, opening up your PC. unplugging everything that is connected to the current power supply, removing the current one from the case (typically held in by four Philips-head screws), putting the new one it it's place, and reconnecting everything. Do not cheap out on a power supply, should you decide to upgrade. If a power supply fails (as most cheap things are wont to do), it can seriously damage the rest of your system depending on how it fails. Go with a reputable brand, make sure to get one that is 80 Plus Bronze or better (this is an industry standard that basically shows that it is capable of delivering at least 80% efficiency, higher ratings like silver/gold/platinum mean more efficient). While this guide is very slightly outdated, it's still a very good starting point.By comparison, installing a new graphics card is very easy. (this video doesn't expressly show you how to remove a graphics card, but just do the steps in reverse.) I'm not familiar with the physical size of the computer you have, so I can't recommend any specific parts as I can't be sure that they'll fit, but it'll be worth looking up other people who have upgraded your model of Alienware and seeing what they had to say. edit: I should also mention that this won't be a cheap operation. Expect to pay around $200 USD at a minimum, depending on what parts you decide to get. If money is a concern for you, now may not be the best time to upgrade.
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Post by Artemis on Jan 28, 2017 4:11:53 GMT
Thanks for the info and videos!! I am more concerned about not knowing what I'm doing and potentially causing my computer to explode lol than price. Hey, that's what credit cards are for, no? Well, I have opened it up before and everything is just sort of smooshed in there... it is a tiny space. I saw the graphic card (kudos to me for being able to recognize it for what it was /snort) but I could not figure out how to take it out, i.e. where the screws holding it in were. Well, we'll have to see. If I'm able to enjoy the game I'll probably hold off on upgrading, at least perhaps until the summer when I'm off work.
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Post by spacev3gan on Jan 28, 2017 4:13:55 GMT
Hmm well that looked okay to me; I actually have that game and have played it and it looks pretty great. I also currently play DAI on a mix of high and ultra settings. Thanks! Yeah I'm disappointed in the alienware but there weren't many options for a compact gaming PC that would fit under my TV in the entertainment center. They also lied about the graphics card; they said it was in the 900 series (forget which) but yes it's just the 745. This was the SECOND PC they had to send me b/c the first broke. So, at that point, I didn't want to deal with them anymore. I would love to replace the card but don't know how. As for the power supply, wouldn't that just encompass buying a new one? I wouldn't have to open the PC up or anything, right? Sorry for my ignorance ^^ I am hoping maybe I could replace the card myself using a youtube video or something..... Dragon Age Inquisition on High and Ultra on a Gtx 745? You must be running at low frames then, probably under 30 frames per second. The target for PC gaming is usually 60 frames per second. Replacing the graphics card is a very easy process, it will hardly take a minute. However, as Pearl mentioned above, you will also need to replace your Power Supply Unit - you will need more power to run a more potent graphics card. Replacing the Power Supply is significantly more complicated, there are lots of different cables involved, each one providing power to a different component, as well as the need to do some cable management afterwards in order to get leave room for air flow inside the case. Every slot is keyed and everything is standardized, nevertheless, you will need to have a basic idea of each individual PC component and where they are inside your case. Well, replacing the Power Supply is frankly not that easy. It is one the core components of the PC. Also, if you have a "compact gaming PC", that means you might have a pretty compact case, one that does not have enough room for a full size graphics card. Despite these adversities, I would strongly suggest replacing your card (and with it your power supply) for a more potent one, even if you need to get help from a friend or pay someone to get it done. You have an extremely powerful and expensive processor, a huge surplus of memory ram and a graphics card that is a severe bottleneck when it comes to gaming.
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Post by Artemis on Jan 28, 2017 4:16:45 GMT
Dragon Age Inquisition on High and Ultra on a Gtx 745? You must be running at low frames then, probably under 30 frames per second. The target for PC gaming is usually 60 frames per second. Replacing the graphics card is a very easy process, it will hardly take a minute. However, as Pearl mentioned above, you will also need to replace your Power Supply Unit - you will need more power to run a more potent graphics card. Replacing the Power Supply is significantly more complicated, there are lots of different cables involved, each one providing power to a different component, as well as the need to do some cable management afterwards in order to get leave room for air flow inside the case. Every slot is keyed and everything is standardized, nevertheless, you will need to have a basic idea of each individual PC component and where they are inside your case. Well, replacing the Power Supply is frankly not that easy. It is one the core components of the PC. Also, if you have a "compact gaming PC", that means you might have a pretty compact case, one that does not have enough room for modern full size video cards. Despite these adversities, I would strongly suggest replacing your card (and with it your power supply) for a more modern and potent one, even if you need to get help from a friend or pay someone to get it done. You have an extremely powerful and expensive processor, a huge surplus of memory ram and a graphics card that is a severe bottleneck when it comes to gaming. Thanks for the advice It's something to think about. I cannot express how pissed off I was when I realized they'd lied to me about the graphics card. At that point I was just so done with them though. I asked the IT guy at work if he'd consider helping me, but he said he couldn't because it would violate some kind of work rule. I have a cousin who is in IT but I am not overly fond of him, so lol ... we'll have to see. My dad might be able to help me. He was a big computer guy at the plant he worked at but his knowledge is probably very dated. I'll have to see. For now the plan is to just see how the game plays and probably upgrade in the summer.
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Post by Pearl on Jan 28, 2017 4:21:51 GMT
You're welcome. I wouldn't worry about making off-the-shelf parts explode, all the physical connections are 'keyed' so that there's only one way they'll fit together. As long as you have everything lined up correctly, and are mindful of static electricity (basically don't do this directly on carpet, wooden table is the way to go and a hardwood floor is ideal but not required), everything will be fine. If you're still nervous about doing it yourself, which is completely understandable, see if there's a "computer guy" at work or in your family/friends who wouldn't mind taking an hour or two to help out. I promise you it's nowhere near as hard as it seems, though
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Post by Cypher on Jan 28, 2017 4:24:14 GMT
Dragon Age Inquisition on High and Ultra on a Gtx 745? You must be running at low frames then, probably under 30 frames per second. The target for PC gaming is usually 60 frames per second. Replacing the graphics card is a very easy process, it will hardly take a minute. However, as Pearl mentioned above, you will also need to replace your Power Supply Unit - you will need more power to run a more potent graphics card. Replacing the Power Supply is significantly more complicated, there are lots of different cables involved, each one providing power to a different component, as well as the need to do some cable management afterwards in order to get leave room for air flow inside the case. Every slot is keyed and everything is standardized, nevertheless, you will need to have a basic idea of each individual PC component and where they are inside your case. Well, replacing the Power Supply is frankly not that easy. It is one the core components of the PC. Also, if you have a "compact gaming PC", that means you might have a pretty compact case, one that does not have enough room for modern full size video cards. Despite these adversities, I would strongly suggest replacing your card (and with it your power supply) for a more modern and potent one, even if you need to get help from a friend or pay someone to get it done. You have an extremely powerful and expensive processor, a huge surplus of memory ram and a graphics card that is a severe bottleneck when it comes to gaming. Thanks for the advice It's something to think about. I cannot express how pissed off I was when I realized they'd lied to me about the graphics card. At that point I was just so done with them though. I asked the IT guy at work if he'd consider helping me, but he said he couldn't because it would violate some kind of work rule. I have a cousin who is in IT but I am not overly fond of him, so lol ... we'll have to see. My dad might be able to help me. He was a big computer guy at the plant he worked at but his knowledge is probably very dated. I'll have to see. For now the plan is to just see how the game plays and probably upgrade in the summer. You have an Alienware X51, don't buy another power supply. The one you got is just fine. That, and nothing else is going to work, since X51's take external power bricks rather than internal power supplies. For graphics cards, buy a GTX 1050ti, and you'll be good for 1080p60 on medium hybrided settings. You don't need to do much else, and really, all you can change is the graphics card anyway. X51 systems were built wth 330w power supply bricks in mind, so if your power brick is 150watt, you will have to buy another one from Dell or a similar one that actually fits. And unfortunately, straight from Dell is $150.Check your power brick, otherwise you may be paying $300 minimum.
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Post by Pearl on Jan 28, 2017 4:29:53 GMT
That, and nothing else is going to work, since X51's take external power bricks rather than internal power supplies. This pains me on a metaphysical level. In that case, scratch everything both SpaceVegan and I said about power supplies. Just worry about getting a small-form factor/low profile graphics card. Double-check the manufacturer specs to make sure it doesn't need more than 330w of power, and you should be good to go. The GTX 1050 Ti is an excellent choice with this restriction in mind.
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Post by Artemis on Jan 28, 2017 4:33:56 GMT
Ehhh what's that mean guys? Yes it is a brick... are... are they not... are they not all like that? It has been a looooooong time since I've had a tower. Now that I think about it... it did not have a brick. But yes the alienware has a brick. Mine is 330w I guess they made it external for space and heat issues.
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Post by rokatsa on Jan 28, 2017 4:45:11 GMT
I feel sorry for anyone who buys pre-built PCs...they always, always lose out not only when they want to upgrade but in the amount of money they overspend. Buying parts and putting a computer together yourself or with some help is not only much cheaper, but you'll also get a better quality product that you know is more powerful than anything a pre-built PC will have. The only PC I buy prebuilt are ones you can't build yourself, which is a laptop.
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Post by Pearl on Jan 28, 2017 4:51:01 GMT
Ehhh what's that mean guys? Yes it is a brick... are... are they not... are they not all like that? It has been a looooooong time since I've had a tower. Now that I think about it... it did not have a brick. But yes the alienware has a brick. Mine is 330w I guess they made it external for space and heat issues. Almost every PC I've seen (and all the ones I've built myself) uses internally-mounted power supplies like the one in the video I linked. They are capable of providing significantly more power than external bricks and are generally cooler as they have built-in fans to help dissipate heat and circulate air. That said, they do take up more room inside the case so I can understand why something designed to be as compact as possible would have an external brick. It didn't even cross my mind that Alienware would be dumb enough to restrain a powerful CPU and limit upgradability in such a fashion, but there's nothing you can do about that unless you buy an entirely new computer; which based on your reasoning for going with the system you have now, combined with the dramatically increased cost, isn't feasible.
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Post by Artemis on Jan 28, 2017 4:58:01 GMT
I feel sorry for anyone who buys pre-built PCs...they always, always lose out not only when they want to upgrade but in the amount of money they overspend. Buying parts and putting a computer together yourself or with some help is not only much cheaper, but you'll also get a better quality product that you know is more powerful than anything a pre-built PC will have. The only PC I buy prebuilt are ones you can't build yourself, which is a laptop. I kept seeing this... do it yourself, build it yourself! You might as well tell me to build my own car. It can be hard to understand that not everyone has your level of knowledge. I'm a teacher, so believe me, I encounter that all the time lol "Why don't they GET this? Isn't it so easy? Isn't it OBVIOUS?" But it isn't. And when you have no one to assist you or guide you, your only option IS to buy a pre-built one. Pearl It's not a BIG, big deal; I am pretty happy with how all the games I play look, so /shrug. This is also how I watch TV (Netflix, YouTube, etc.) since I don't have cable. It has to be compact-sized. There are pluses and minuses I guess! I'm not a huge geek when it comes to graphics and stuff; if it looks nice and moves smoothly I'm happy. I just was worried it would look REALLY bad on ME:A and was despairing having to upgrade.
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Post by Cypher on Jan 28, 2017 5:12:25 GMT
That, and nothing else is going to work, since X51's take external power bricks rather than internal power supplies. This pains me on a metaphysical level. In that case, scratch everything both SpaceVegan and I said about power supplies. Just worry about getting a small-form factor/low profile graphics card. Double-check the manufacturer specs to make sure it doesn't need more than 330w of power, and you should be good to go. The GTX 1050 Ti is an excellent choice with this restriction in mind. X51's take full size cards, SFF isn't needed. Also, nothing wrong with external power. My next build will probably end up with an external brick once I delve further into how to getting it work on a console sized build. I feel sorry for anyone who buys pre-built PCs...they always, always lose out not only when they want to upgrade but in the amount of money they overspend. Buying parts and putting a computer together yourself or with some help is not only much cheaper, but you'll also get a better quality product that you know is more powerful than anything a pre-built PC will have. The only PC I buy prebuilt are ones you can't build yourself, which is a laptop. I kept seeing this... do it yourself, build it yourself! You might as well tell me to build my own car. It can be hard to understand that not everyone has your level of knowledge. I'm a teacher, so believe me, I encounter that all the time lol "Why don't they GET this? Isn't it so easy? Isn't it OBVIOUS?" But it isn't. And when you have no one to assist you or guide you, your only option IS to buy a pre-built one. Pearl It's not a BIG, big deal; I am pretty happy with how all the games I play look, so /shrug. This is also how I watch TV (Netflix, YouTube, etc.) since I don't have cable. It has to be compact-sized. There are pluses and minuses I guess! I'm not a huge geek when it comes to graphics and stuff; if it looks nice and moves smoothly I'm happy. I just was worried it would look REALLY bad on ME:A and was despairing having to upgrade. Don't worry, there's nothing wrong with an X51 styled setup; most PC gamers you come across--myself included--have your standard PC tower case, which allows for more modularity and more power and don't pay much attention to prebuilts because prebuilts generally rip people off. The X51, in spite of them coming with underpowered graphics cards, are still pretty good buys due to small size and the fact that they take fullsize cards. Building a PC the size of the one you have was far more expensive than what the X51 and a mid-tier graphics card would've cost put together. Any graphics card from the past few years, barring the $1000 top of the line beasts, will fit within your PC under most circumstances, and the total power draw will amount to far less than 330w, so you're fine. Hell, your average big PC doesn't draw the entire breadth of otheir 500-1000w power supplies these days either.
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Post by Pearl on Jan 28, 2017 5:14:59 GMT
X51's take full size cards, SFF isn't needed. Gotcha. Further goes to show that I should do my own research before recommending things to other people I assumed that since it used an external brick, there was very little room in the case and as such required SFF. Pearl It's not a BIG, big deal; I am pretty happy with how all the games I play look, so /shrug. This is also how I watch TV (Netflix, YouTube, etc.) since I don't have cable. It has to be compact-sized. There are pluses and minuses I guess! I'm not a huge geek when it comes to graphics and stuff; if it looks nice and moves smoothly I'm happy. I just was worried it would look REALLY bad on ME:A and was despairing having to upgrade. Yeah, I completely understand. Here's this video showing how to replace the graphics card in your computer for future reference, should you decide to upgrade at some point. The graphics card this guy is using is a little bit hungrier for power than one I would recommend, but the process will be mostly the same.
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Post by Cypher on Jan 28, 2017 5:26:15 GMT
This is a good video as well, since it goes as far as showing the process--in fast forward!--from the beginning.
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Post by Pearl on Jan 28, 2017 5:30:33 GMT
Saw that one, decided not to link it since it's a little more involved/intimidating to an inexperienced person due to the required adapter. Still, like you said, a good video.
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Post by Fredward on Jan 28, 2017 7:05:25 GMT
I recently replaced my ram, gpu and psu which was the first time doing anything with the insides of my pc. Worked out fine, mostly (I accidentally plugged out the cd tray and it doesn't work anymore, it was stuck before so it's not a huge loss), it really is relatively simple and I'm the least technically inclined person ever. Now my processor is lagging behind the other bits because a) it's pretty expensive and it seemed more complicated than replacing the other stuff and I didn't wanna risk it. Also, ever since I switched the parts I've had an extra terabyte hard drive on my computer that I can store stuff on and everything despite the fact that I only have two hard drives in my box. Where does the extra one come from? I don't know. But I'm guessing hardware fairies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 7:07:36 GMT
Sometimes I really want to punch whoever decides on the specs for Alienware systems. I would say 1080p on Low is a safe bet, you might be able to push some settings to Medium but I doubt you'll get very stable framerates. The 745, as previously discussed, is a very weak card and has no business being paired with a top-end i7. That's an odd choice if this is intended as a 'gaming' build. The i7-4790 isn't really 'top-end', but it's way overkill for games. I have an i7-4790, but only because I tend to run several virtual machines, compile programs, etc. (on Linux) (I also see that the 'unlocked' K version is popular in gaming builds. Oddly enough, the virtualization functions don't work on the K models.)
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Post by Cypher on Jan 28, 2017 9:07:58 GMT
I recently replaced my ram, gpu and psu which was the first time doing anything with the insides of my pc. Worked out fine, mostly (I accidentally plugged out the cd tray and it doesn't work anymore, it was stuck before so it's not a huge loss), it really is relatively simple and I'm the least technically inclined person ever. Now my processor is lagging behind the other bits because a) it's pretty expensive and it seemed more complicated than replacing the other stuff and I didn't wanna risk it. Also, ever since I switched the parts I've had an extra terabyte hard drive on my computer that I can store stuff on and everything despite the fact that I only have two hard drives in my box. Where does the extra one come from? I don't know. But I'm guessing hardware fairies. What kind of processor do you have? Or brand of PC in general if it's a pre-built.
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Post by Fredward on Jan 28, 2017 9:13:50 GMT
What kind of processor do you have? Or brand of PC in general if it's a pre-built. i5-4460 3.20GHz.
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Post by Cypher on Jan 28, 2017 10:47:54 GMT
What kind of processor do you have? Or brand of PC in general if it's a pre-built. i5-4460 3.20GHz. Your processor is fine. Plus, if you touched the CPU, you'd have to upgrade the motherboard since your processor is incompatible with current motherboards, unless you find a used or older one on ebay. And if you're using a prebuilt, there's a strong possibility that the motherboard either won't fit, or the insides of the case lack the configuration to securely mount it due to prebuilts using motherboards without standard configurations like off the shelf parts; so then you'd have to buy a case GPU, RAM, and storage speeds will carry you a long way.
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Post by DalishRanger on Jan 29, 2017 19:08:32 GMT
I feel sorry for anyone who buys pre-built PCs...they always, always lose out not only when they want to upgrade but in the amount of money they overspend. Buying parts and putting a computer together yourself or with some help is not only much cheaper, but you'll also get a better quality product that you know is more powerful than anything a pre-built PC will have. The only PC I buy prebuilt are ones you can't build yourself, which is a laptop. I kept seeing this... do it yourself, build it yourself! You might as well tell me to build my own car. It can be hard to understand that not everyone has your level of knowledge. I'm a teacher, so believe me, I encounter that all the time lol "Why don't they GET this? Isn't it so easy? Isn't it OBVIOUS?" But it isn't. And when you have no one to assist you or guide you, your only option IS to buy a pre-built one. It's not as intimidating as it first seems - heck, I taught myself reading a "PC Building For Dummies" guide some 10 years ago or so, and just kind of picked up more from there. Still, it definitely isn't for everyone. I'll never go prebuilt again for personal systems, but they have their place for those without feasible time/resources to dedicate to learn or build, or even the desire to. For learning though, there are other message boards and reddits that are great for learning or even finding places that will build them for you, if you're not sure what parts to put in it even when someone else is doing the building. I generally recommend for my non-builder friends to go to companies that build for you with different part options and where to go to ask if they're not sure what parts are better for their budget and needs.
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I kept seeing this... do it yourself, build it yourself! You might as well tell me to build my own car. It can be hard to understand that not everyone has your level of knowledge. I'm a teacher, so believe me, I encounter that all the time lol "Why don't they GET this? Isn't it so easy? Isn't it OBVIOUS?" But it isn't. It's nowhere near as difficult as building one's own car. Though I don't think it's your fault that you think this way -- PC users MAKE IT SOUND AS THOUGH they're designing the damn chips, and then manufacturing them. Whereas they just pick parts from a price list, and then plug things in the appropriate holes. Nowadays the sockets are designed in such a way that it's pretty much impossible to plug something in the wrong place anyway. The kind of thing that requires chimp levels of cognitive skill, seriously. ... and then they quarrel in forums over the precisely right way of applying thermal paste on a CPU, so as to certify their advanced computer-skillz. Pretty miserable if you ask me. 30 years ago, an average computer hobbyist could type in simple programs in machine code; or at least poke the computer's memory at specific bytes to make it do things (like change # of lives in a game, etc.); nowadays, they're quarreling over thermal paste, and names of technologies they don't have the slightest hope of understanding the inner workings of.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 29, 2017 23:23:54 GMT
Last Summer I was running an original locked Haswell 4770 with two 4gb 980 FTWs from EVGA and 32GB of DDR3@1600 all on a p.o.s. ASUS Maximus VI Hero. I upgraded to the (brand new at the time) Intel 6850K six cores @ 3.6Ghz/core w/ 15mb L3 Cache, (kept my 2 980 FTWs), upgraded to 32 GB of DDR4@2400 from G.KSILL and a 950Pro M.2 drive from Samsung on an X-99 Gigabyte Phoenix SLI Motherboard( my first Board from Gigabuyte and I love it). Playing DAI...My average is 105 FPS w/ Vsync off all settings on Ultra. My lowest FPS is 85 using Fraps in the Hinterlands and in 'Jaws of Hakkon'.
If 'Andromeda' plays like this on my rig I'll be ecstatic. I"m not fussed on either the 6700 or 7700. (I may be wrong, but I feel that the 7700 is just a rebadged 6700 with a few minor cosmetic adjustments). Nothing truly earth-shattering coming up from a Haswell 4770. So again that's why I decided on the 6850. But the newest series CPUs...and decided on the 6850K because I needed the extra PCI-E lanes and bandwidth to 'properly' run a 2-way SLI setup to its maximum effectiveness in 2-way X16. Also, I needed the additional lanes for my M.2.
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Post by The Twilight God on Jan 30, 2017 6:29:10 GMT
What's the equivalent GPU of a PS4?
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