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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jan 10, 2017 4:55:49 GMT
Does GOG even focus on current games?
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Post by bshep on Jan 10, 2017 4:59:12 GMT
As others stated it does not bother me. I actually prefer Origin over Steam... if it's on origin i'd be a bit more worried if i were you Why should I? Origin is less invasive than Steam and also doesn't force me to download useless crap. Gog is still the best but Origin isn't all that bad.
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 10, 2017 5:13:00 GMT
From what I recall, one of the issues was that EA also wanted to be able to sell DLC directly through their games and not through Steam, or something like that. I also recall there were some advantages with game patches and other updates with Origin vs Steam, but I can't remember what they were...
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Post by Xanphal on Jan 10, 2017 5:40:17 GMT
I couldn't care less about which client it's on; I'll be buying from whoever has it cheapest.
Also, someone mentioned some things they'd heard about Origin and listed refund policies. I bought a game once and super hated it, asked for a refund and it was processed in less than an hour. And they refunded straight to my credit card too, not this steam wallet bullshit. Maybe others have had issues, but other than the fact that they won't sell original ME trilogy DLC for cash instead of points, I don't have an issue with them.
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Post by Fredward on Jan 10, 2017 6:11:03 GMT
Steam, Origin, I literally do not care. perhaps you should care because i heard alot of things about origin and most of it was not good... I've heard a lot of atrocious things about Nestle but I still eat their chocolate.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jan 10, 2017 6:33:29 GMT
perhaps you should care because i heard alot of things about origin and most of it was not good... I've heard a lot of atrocious things about Nestle but I still eat their chocolate. Lucky you. Sad for those of us allergic to chocolate.
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Post by Cyonan on Jan 10, 2017 7:14:48 GMT
Would you care to share these "alot of things about origin" so people could make an informed decision? invasive intrusion of personal data information, viruses, spyware, game "lockout" if your account hasn't been signed in for a period of time and refund policies are the most common ones i hear Steam records more of my data so that it can advertise games to me more often that share genre/tags with games I've recently looked at or played. While Origin does advertise games, it's basically always just EA pushing whatever their latest AAA title is on the store front. I can also confirm that neither Origin nor Steam access any files on your computer that they shouldn't be. I've checked it with debugging tools that show me exactly what the Steam and Origin processes are doing. Though I'm sure there are plenty of horror stories about bad customer service from both. Also the Origin client doesn't seem to play nice with 4k monitors. The games themselves are fine, just the Origin client isn't.
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Post by Fozee on Jan 10, 2017 7:30:41 GMT
As much as I love steam, I need to have Origin for things like Battlefield, so as long as that's there I'm fine with using it. Steam is getting a bit dated with its content delivery, and it is way too full of games these days. I'm definitely starting to like Steam less.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 7:38:30 GMT
Does GOG even focus on current games? Yes; they put out new titles regularly. Mostly indie titles, though, since those are released DRM-free more commonly. I always look at GOG first; I'd definitely get MEA from there, if it were available. Though it's absurd even to entertain the idea, unfortunately. (People are hoping for ME1 to release on GOG, though; and that might not be too outrageous an expectation. They have other EA titles from the same era.)
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Post by Fozee on Jan 10, 2017 7:46:24 GMT
Oh I highly doubt ME:A will come to GOG unless GOG is okay with it having DRM. EA's big titles are using Denuvo because it allows them to have nearly uncrackable games without resorting to the issues with online-only titles.
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Post by BadgerladDK on Jan 10, 2017 8:51:18 GMT
I'd still get it on Origin even if it was on Steam. Where possible, I buy straight from the publisher rather than give a cut of the sale to a middleman. That even means buying Ubisoft games through the abysmal Uplay.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 8:56:24 GMT
I usually now game on console but when I game on PC, I buy everything I can from GoG. Despite playing it for PS4, I also bought an extra copy of TW3 on GoG for PC (even though I never going to use it) just to show my support for GoG gaming "philosophy" and CDPR as a company.
If ME:A was available on GoG, I would do the exact same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 9:11:16 GMT
I would love that MEA was on Steam, Origin is so buggy for me (It cannot even remember my settings after restarting!), BUT it will not stop me from playing MEA and using Origin..
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Post by ProbeAway on Jan 10, 2017 9:58:08 GMT
I'd love to have it on GOG but I don't really care about Steam vs Origin. DRM is still DRM.
I also don't really understand why Valve gets such a free pass from gamers. They're a big money-hungry corporate machine too, and they act like it. They're simply more subtle than EA.
Just last year in Australia they were found guilty of misleading and deceptive conduct for telling Steam users that they weren't entitled to a refund when in fact they were by law. I've also seen them do some pretty dodgy stuff re pricing and advertising discounts (e.g. bumping up the price of a game right before a sale so that the sale price can be advertised as a bigger discount).
Most of the negative stuff I've heard about Origin is just about it being a clunky, buggy platform. I'd probably prefer that to sneaky practices.
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Post by kumazan on Jan 10, 2017 10:08:14 GMT
GOG is always my first choice, so yes, if ME:A was released there I'd buy it from them for sure. I don't see any meaningful difference between Origin and Steam, and my games are already scattered throughout 4 different platforms anyway.
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Post by tbr1 on Jan 10, 2017 10:34:18 GMT
Oh I highly doubt ME:A will come to GOG unless GOG is okay with it having DRM. EA's big titles are using Denuvo because it allows them to have nearly uncrackable games without resorting to the issues with online-only titles. so EA thinks denuvo drm is bulletproof huh? well i can bet you dime to a dollar that someone will find a way to crack it. even if EA introduces a new version it's gonna get cracked eventually. Hackers always love a good challenge. EA is just wasting time, energy and money on an idea that does more harm than good. one time when i was perusing thru Pirate Bay I found that someone manage to crack DAI's drm(they even managed to bypass the whole using origin program thing!). I wouldn't be surprised that someone will crack ME:A's drm eventually. it's inherently a dumb idea and i don't understand why EA remains so persistent to the idea. EA thinks their games are safe and secure from any kind of "tampering" they are dumb hackers WILL find a way, they always do...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 10:53:22 GMT
I also don't really understand why Valve gets such a free pass from gamers. Steam adulation is also widespread in the Linux community. While it's true that Steam put Linux gaming 'on the map', so to speak, some people take appreciation of this fact too far, into regarding Steam as a bastion of software freedom. Which is absurd, given that it's a DRM empire first and foremost. I also don't think there's a substantial difference between Steam, Origin, or UPlay.
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Post by Evamitchelle on Jan 10, 2017 10:55:35 GMT
Oh I highly doubt ME:A will come to GOG unless GOG is okay with it having DRM. EA's big titles are using Denuvo because it allows them to have nearly uncrackable games without resorting to the issues with online-only titles. so EA thinks denuvo drm is bulletproof huh? well i can bet you dime to a dollar that someone will find a way to crack it. even if EA introduces a new version it's gonna get cracked eventually. Hackers always love a good challenge. EA is just wasting time, energy and money on an idea that does more harm than good. one time when i was perusing thru Pirate Bay I found that someone manage to crack DAI's drm(they even managed to bypass the whole using origin program thing!). I wouldn't be surprised that someone will crack ME:A's drm eventually. it's inherently a dumb idea and i don't understand why EA remains so persistent to the idea. EA thinks their games are safe and secure from any kind of "tampering" they are dumb hackers WILL find a way, they always do... They don't care if the game will be cracked eventually, what they want is that the game remained uncracked during the first weeks when most of the sales are made.
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Post by helios969 on Jan 10, 2017 11:01:51 GMT
Oh I highly doubt ME:A will come to GOG unless GOG is okay with it having DRM. EA's big titles are using Denuvo because it allows them to have nearly uncrackable games without resorting to the issues with online-only titles. so EA thinks denuvo drm is bulletproof huh? well i can bet you dime to a dollar that someone will find a way to crack it. even if EA introduces a new version it's gonna get cracked eventually. Hackers always love a good challenge. EA is just wasting time, energy and money on an idea that does more harm than good. one time when i was perusing thru Pirate Bay I found that someone manage to crack DAI's drm(they even managed to bypass the whole using origin program thing!). I wouldn't be surprised that someone will crack ME:A's drm eventually. it's inherently a dumb idea and i don't understand why EA remains so persistent to the idea. EA thinks their games are safe and secure from any kind of "tampering" they are dumb hackers WILL find a way, they always do... Well as I recall in a previous discussion on this, it's there only to delay the cracking since the bulk of any new release are within the first 90 days. It makes sense. To be honest an extra hour (or week for that matter!) at work to buy the game seems like a whole lot less effort than what if would take to hack a game and make it run properly. Talk about a tedious use of free time...I'd rather spend it playing the game.
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Post by helios969 on Jan 10, 2017 11:08:37 GMT
Regardless, I always purchase a physical copy. So whether I load it up through Origin, Steam, or whatever makes no difference. I do like steam from the stand point of easily installing mods, but the lack of quality content and access to DLC's in many cases makes it a deal breaker.
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Post by tbr1 on Jan 10, 2017 11:40:24 GMT
so EA thinks denuvo drm is bulletproof huh? well i can bet you dime to a dollar that someone will find a way to crack it. even if EA introduces a new version it's gonna get cracked eventually. Hackers always love a good challenge. EA is just wasting time, energy and money on an idea that does more harm than good. one time when i was perusing thru Pirate Bay I found that someone manage to crack DAI's drm(they even managed to bypass the whole using origin program thing!). I wouldn't be surprised that someone will crack ME:A's drm eventually. it's inherently a dumb idea and i don't understand why EA remains so persistent to the idea. EA thinks their games are safe and secure from any kind of "tampering" they are dumb hackers WILL find a way, they always do... Well as I recall in a previous discussion on this, it's there only to delay the cracking since the bulk of any new release are within the first 90 days. It makes sense. To be honest an extra hour (or week for that matter!) at work to buy the game seems like a whole lot less effort than what if would take to hack a game and make it run properly. Talk about a tedious use of free time...I'd rather spend it playing the game. still a complete waste of time and money on EA's end. there is no point in delaying the inevitable (and of course the stupid cycle/history repeats itself and more money is going down the toilet) if you know what i am trying to say. it'd be better if they just cut the dam drm completely and oh look *money saved* cut that stupid generic horde mode MP (ME series was a single player franchise from the get go) *money saved* now the whole budget can focus on development and maybe some advertisement depending on Bioware's mood
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 11:42:44 GMT
Bethesda recently removed Denuvo from DOOM (2016). I wonder what their thinking was.
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Post by BadgerladDK on Jan 10, 2017 11:48:16 GMT
Bethesda recently removed Denuvo from DOOM (2016). I wonder what their thinking was. It was broken after having done its job of protecting initial sales.
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Post by helios969 on Jan 10, 2017 11:49:46 GMT
Well as I recall in a previous discussion on this, it's there only to delay the cracking since the bulk of any new release are within the first 90 days. It makes sense. To be honest an extra hour (or week for that matter!) at work to buy the game seems like a whole lot less effort than what if would take to hack a game and make it run properly. Talk about a tedious use of free time...I'd rather spend it playing the game. still a complete waste of time and money on EA's end. there is no point in delaying the inevitable (and of course the stupid cycle/history repeats itself and more money is going down the toilet) if you know what i am trying to say. it'd be better if they just cut the dam drm completely and oh look *money saved* cut that stupid generic horde mode MP (ME series was a single player franchise from the get go) *money saved* now the whole budget can focus on development and maybe some advertisement depending on Bioware's mood Well, I don't know about the DRM thing (I'm sure a cost-benefit analysis was done,) but MP made them a shit ton full of money so it is not going anywhere. I used to feel the same about MP, but ME3's combat system being good can be directly tied to the addition of MP, so I'm good with it so long as it doesn't intrude in the SP game.
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Post by tbr1 on Jan 10, 2017 11:53:21 GMT
still a complete waste of time and money on EA's end. there is no point in delaying the inevitable (and of course the stupid cycle/history repeats itself and more money is going down the toilet) if you know what i am trying to say. it'd be better if they just cut the dam drm completely and oh look *money saved* cut that stupid generic horde mode MP (ME series was a single player franchise from the get go) *money saved* now the whole budget can focus on development and maybe some advertisement depending on Bioware's mood Well, I don't know about the DRM thing (I'm sure a cost-benefit analysis was done,) but MP made them a shit ton full of money so it is not going anywhere. I used to feel the same about MP, but ME3's combat system being good can be directly tied to the addition of MP, so I'm good with it so long as it doesn't intrude in the SP game. this video was a real educational eye opener about the drm "arms race" and why corporations are really dumb
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