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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 11, 2017 23:09:09 GMT
Waaaaaaaait a minute
So are you saying the game penalizes you (with lesser rewards) if you play solo?
WTF
Not everyone likes to share their goddamn gaming tine with the world why are single player gamers getting screwed these days???
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Post by colfoley on Jan 11, 2017 23:11:16 GMT
Waaaaaaaait a minute So are you saying the game penalizes you (with lesser rewards) if you play solo? WTF Not everyone likes to share their goddamn gaming tine with the world why are single player gamers getting screwed these days??? In thinkingabout it I wonder if the 'new rewards' they are talking about have to do with multiplayer only rewards, things that effect only the MP mode, since we know they exisist. |
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Post by goishen on Jan 11, 2017 23:17:08 GMT
Waaaaaaaait a minute So are you saying the game penalizes you (with lesser rewards) if you play solo? WTF Not everyone likes to share their goddamn gaming tine with the world why are single player gamers getting screwed these days??? In ME3MP if you did all yourself, you got all the experience. I think that BioWare's really trying to even things up by saying, "Okay, if you really wanna do this by yourself, okay. But look at the carrot that's MP." |
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 11, 2017 23:17:57 GMT
Waaaaaaaait a minute So are you saying the game penalizes you (with lesser rewards) if you play solo? WTF Not everyone likes to share their goddamn gaming tine with the world why are single player gamers getting screwed these days??? In thinkingabout it I wonder if the 'new rewards' they are talking about have to do with multiplayer only rewards, things that effect only the MP mode, since we know they exisist. somehow I doubt it. These missions sort of existed in me3 and they yielded single player reviews |
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Post by colfoley on Jan 11, 2017 23:20:57 GMT
Option # 2:
Guy complaining about MEA Side quests: What do you mean your quests still sort of suck wahhh
BW: OK, here is this nice, entirely optional way, to get XP.
GMAMEASQ: Damn...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 23:29:40 GMT
Fair enough, but grinding away on horde maps for SP rewards isn't my idea of fun. After all the flack they took for MP affecting SP, I'm honestly surprised they'd go this route... Depends on the rewards. And how much "grinding" it takes to get them. I might be willing to run some solo-friendly maps to get a decoration for Ryder's quarters that I like. Or a little extra cash. But my big concern is being able to do all this without being dependent on others. Video game time is MY time. I do not want my fun to be dependent on other people. I do not want other people's fun to be dependent on me This. Was gifted Borderlands 1 and 2 by a high school friend, and they brought me nothing but misery because of this. Ended up selling them. |
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Post by fialka on Jan 11, 2017 23:42:37 GMT
From the Twitter thread: BSN BioWare forums @bsnforums Is it possible to play multiplayer only without reaching strike missions in single player? ok, inb4 'more info soon' ;-) Fernando Melo DiscoBabalooyep of course. if you only wanted to play mp (or only sp for that matter), you can without any gating from the 'other' mode. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 23:56:12 GMT
As I read it, when you do the MP from SP, it is tied to whatever you are doing at the time in SP ... i.e. relevant to what point you're at in the story. Some of these maps might show up in the MP mode (that you enter, separate from SP) ... which would make sense, since they could repurpose the maps for use in both instances. If in the SP > MP you play by yourself, you get lower XP probably like in Bronze MP and the rewards are lower, maybe like a Veteran's pack. If you play with others, more XP ... like in Silver or Gold ... and better packs ... maybe like the Spectre or Arsenal packs.
I still see MP still as a stand-alone from SP (edit: confirmed via Hrungr twitter quote) ... but the segue SP > MP is story tied, lore tied, but optional, like a side mission. Don't do it if you don't want to. Do it if you wish. For me, trying to coordinate with friends ... nope ... too much bother. Instead, I expect to enter a random lobby ... living the PUG lifeTM in SP > MP mode.
In the stand-alone MP, I'll PUG or play with friends ... given that several on my FL have already ordered ME:A, I don't see that as a problem.
I really don't see the downside. The MP from SP "thingy" is optional. Don't do it. Just like some folks will skip side missions. Just consider this a "side mission" for which you choose to opt out. Me ... I look forward to it. Because ME3MP was a blast ... and it made me a far better play in SP.
Overall, for MP, I see this as a big bonus ... it could mean a LOT more MP maps from the start ... compared to ME3MP. As the various DLCs played out, the numbers of ME3MP maps got pretty robust. Will be cool to see if this is true for ME:AMP from the beginning.
Of course, BioWare, you can always add more MP maps after game release. Just sayin' Mo Maps is Mo Better.  |
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 11, 2017 23:58:23 GMT
Had confirmation: whatever interaction between the modes you choose to follow, it does not act as a gate.
You can play only SP or only MP if you want to:
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 12, 2017 0:15:18 GMT
Waaaaaaaait a minute So are you saying the game penalizes you (with lesser rewards) if you play solo? WTF Not everyone likes to share their goddamn gaming tine with the world why are single player gamers getting screwed these days??? In ME3MP if you did all yourself, you got all the experience. I think that BioWare's really trying to even things up by saying, "Okay, if you really wanna do this by yourself, okay. But look at the carrot that's MP." still can we freaking keep the two separated? |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 12, 2017 0:18:44 GMT
Fair enough, but grinding away on horde maps for SP rewards isn't my idea of fun. After all the flack they took for MP affecting SP, I'm honestly surprised they'd go this route... Depends on the rewards. And how much "grinding" it takes to get them. I might be willing to run some solo-friendly maps to get a decoration for Ryder's quarters that I like. Or a little extra cash. But my big concern is being able to do all this without being dependent on others. Video game time is MY time. I do not want my fun to be dependent on other people. I do not want other people's fun to be dependent on me Likewise for me as well. |
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jan 12, 2017 0:21:54 GMT
I still say that this strike feature may break the single player campaign:
Don't like facing the Lava Iguana that is level 5 for story?
According to this it would be a simple fix: go do some Strike missions level up 20 levels and then go back and obliterate that Lava Iguana...unless as previously theorized the enemies would scale with you.
IF NOT HOWEVER talk about enemies becoming road-kill.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 12, 2017 0:25:40 GMT
Had confirmation: whatever interaction between the modes you choose to follow, it does not act as a gate. You can play only SP or only MP if you want to: I like for them to confirm if multiplayer will be required to get the platinum trophy for the game. |
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Post by goishen on Jan 12, 2017 0:36:55 GMT
In ME3MP if you did all yourself, you got all the experience. I think that BioWare's really trying to even things up by saying, "Okay, if you really wanna do this by yourself, okay. But look at the carrot that's MP." still can we freaking keep the two separated? I'd like it too. If whomever it was that mentioned that they are gonna be like SWTOR's flash points (or whatever dungeons in that game are called), then I certainly hope we don't have to travel in the game SP to get to a planet and hop into the MP. And each MP mission on a different planet. That would sucketh. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 0:46:12 GMT
Had confirmation: whatever interaction between the modes you choose to follow, it does not act as a gate. You can play only SP or only MP if you want to: I like for them to confirm if multiplayer will be required to get the platinum trophy for the game. That awkward moment if they require Strike Team to get "best ending" redux. |
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Jan 12, 2017 0:51:15 GMT
Waaaaaaaait a minute So are you saying the game penalizes you (with lesser rewards) if you play solo? WTF Not everyone likes to share their goddamn gaming tine with the world why are single player gamers getting screwed these days??? As GTAV proves rather definitively, MP brings in the money. SP has a fixed beginning, middle, and end... with some DLC to pad things out. Microtransactions from MP are a steady stream of revenue. Especially if it's fun enough. You gotta remember EA is holding the reins here. |
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 12, 2017 0:58:45 GMT
Waaaaaaaait a minute So are you saying the game penalizes you (with lesser rewards) if you play solo? WTF Not everyone likes to share their goddamn gaming tine with the world why are single player gamers getting screwed these days??? As GTAV proves rather definitively, MP brings in the money. SP has a fixed beginning, middle, and end... with some DLC to pad things out. Microtransactions from MP are a steady stream of revenue. Especially if it's fun enough. You gotta remember EA is holding the reins here. and then you wonder WHY people come in hailing CDPR? Because we keep giving Bioware passes on this shit. |
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Post by Archaengel_X on Jan 12, 2017 1:10:48 GMT
Considering how the strike team missions can be played either solo or with other players, then I'm fine with this system. Plus, it sounds like the missions' difficulty will be balanced around the number of players in a mission meaning that solo players won't experience an extreme difficulty spike.
I only have two hopes that immediately come to mind. First, I hope there are no exclusive item rewards for people who play in a team. Otherwise, people who would rather remain in single player will be required to play with a team in order to get every item. Second, I seriously hope there is more to multiplayer than just horde mode missions. As much as I enjoy Mass Effect 3's multiplayer, it is easy to get burned out after a few matches because of the repetitiveness of the matches. Providing a variety of missions (sort of like Spec Ops) in addition with horde matches would help to create a longer lasting appeal to strike missions.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 12, 2017 1:21:36 GMT
Considering how the strike team missions can be played either solo or with other players, then I'm fine with this system. Plus, it sounds like the missions' difficulty will be balanced around the number of players in a mission meaning that solo players won't experience an extreme difficulty spike. I only have two hopes that immediately come to mind. First, I hope there are no exclusive item rewards for people who play in a team. Otherwise, people who would rather remain in single player will be required to play with a team in order to get every item. Second, I seriously hope there is more to multiplayer than just horde mode missions. As much as I enjoy Mass Effect 3's multiplayer, it is easy to get burned out after a few matches because of the repetitiveness of the matches. Providing a variety of missions (sort of like Spec Ops) in addition with horde matches would help to create a longer lasting appeal to strike missions. that is the problem....the interview spelled out that playing in teams means better rewards this the solo players get shafted |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 12, 2017 1:30:17 GMT
As GTAV proves rather definitively, MP brings in the money. SP has a fixed beginning, middle, and end... with some DLC to pad things out. Microtransactions from MP are a steady stream of revenue. Especially if it's fun enough. You gotta remember EA is holding the reins here. and then you wonder WHY people come in hailing CDPR? Because we keep giving Bioware passes on this shit. CDPR do it as well though they're just more cleverer in the way they do it. In that they don't charge for absolutely everything just the big more meaningful things |
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 12, 2017 1:33:26 GMT
and then you wonder WHY people come in hailing CDPR? Because we keep giving Bioware passes on this shit. CDPR do it as well though they're just more cleverer in the way they do it. In that they don't charge for absolutely everything just the big more meaningful things you mean for expansion which are not cut content from the main game but actually 10 hours additions to the main game? Jesus I wonder why people are ok with that...not |
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Post by Cirvante on Jan 12, 2017 1:45:18 GMT
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Post by colfoley on Jan 12, 2017 1:52:28 GMT
Considering how the strike team missions can be played either solo or with other players, then I'm fine with this system. Plus, it sounds like the missions' difficulty will be balanced around the number of players in a mission meaning that solo players won't experience an extreme difficulty spike. I only have two hopes that immediately come to mind. First, I hope there are no exclusive item rewards for people who play in a team. Otherwise, people who would rather remain in single player will be required to play with a team in order to get every item. Second, I seriously hope there is more to multiplayer than just horde mode missions. As much as I enjoy Mass Effect 3's multiplayer, it is easy to get burned out after a few matches because of the repetitiveness of the matches. Providing a variety of missions (sort of like Spec Ops) in addition with horde matches would help to create a longer lasting appeal to strike missions. that is the problem....the interview spelled out that playing in teams means better rewards this the solo players get shafted Would you be ok if these rewards were given to you in the MP were available as well in the SP just...elsewhere? |
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Post by goishen on Jan 12, 2017 1:57:50 GMT
Considering how the strike team missions can be played either solo or with other players, then I'm fine with this system. Plus, it sounds like the missions' difficulty will be balanced around the number of players in a mission meaning that solo players won't experience an extreme difficulty spike. I only have two hopes that immediately come to mind. First, I hope there are no exclusive item rewards for people who play in a team. Otherwise, people who would rather remain in single player will be required to play with a team in order to get every item. Second, I seriously hope there is more to multiplayer than just horde mode missions. As much as I enjoy Mass Effect 3's multiplayer, it is easy to get burned out after a few matches because of the repetitiveness of the matches. Providing a variety of missions (sort of like Spec Ops) in addition with horde matches would help to create a longer lasting appeal to strike missions. that is the problem....the interview spelled out that playing in teams means better rewards this the solo players get shafted You're looking at it the wrong way and your view may be off kilter. What they are trying to do is to flip the script from ME3MP. Whereas we all look up to people being able to solo platinum, we'll now all be saying, "Hey, me and this other guy? We ruled Plat the other day!" "Me, Joe, Amanda and Kirsten totally rocked gold today! It ruled!" Rather than, "I got bored and tried to solo plat until it became a reality." |
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Post by Iakus on Jan 12, 2017 1:59:50 GMT
I like for them to confirm if multiplayer will be required to get the platinum trophy for the game. That awkward moment if they require Strike Team to get "best ending" redux. I recall being laughed at when I predicted it for ME3... |
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