Mass Effect Andromeda Skepticism thread

I have to agree with this, Bioware is always gonna to get more of my money if they deliver diversity. I am always going to buy deluxe editions or CEs.  Although I will forever love The Witcher and CDPR, their fandom keeps me way but I do try to see past it and always support them with a standard game for their good stories.

does anyone else miss those times when games were just games and had none of this trying to keep a certain percentage of humanity happy bullshit?

Agreed I don't thik this game will fail because it's been in a 5 year development cycle Bioware's games only tend to fail if they've been rushed  like DA2 was other than that they've been relatively successful in what they've attempted to achieve 5 years dosen't sound like to me as though it's been rushed. In factto me it sounds like they've taken great pains t makj sure it's right out of the box.

Why are there so many films, books and games with a love story between a man and a woman? Correct. To address the taste of these people and induce them to buy their product. I find it silly when people shake their heads about LGBT content, but don't have an objection against heterosexual romances (although in many games, films and books in which they occur they contributes nothing to the story either). But people tend to ignore the privilege of their own group, if they have been profiting from something for a long time and now consider it as natural. I do not suppose people are selfish. People just do not know how other groups feel when something is absolutely normal for themselves. Just imagine a world in which you'd only get heterosexual content in 1% of films and games and in the other 99% you have to see LGBT relationships. Would you be happy? I don't think so.  Therefore, you should also enable other people to get the same things as you get yourself. Even if their things aren't your cup of tea.

As long as you understand that's  very shallow and a pretty lame reason to give for a game being better "because I can bang dudes". This is coming from someone bi. It's up there with the "because I can bang all of my companions" arguement. Don't mistake being able to live vicariously through your video game character with being good game design and writing. Especially when the romances themselves have been arguably the most subpar and poorly executed feature in Bioware's games. 

I don't see why there is a problem with Geralt being heterosexual. Joel from TLOU is, didn't stop him from being one of the best written characters of last generation. Nathan Drake from Uncharted is. Most males in Final Fantasy games are (though they look like girls themselves lol). I thought video games were supposed to be art. I thought writers were supposed to convey characters in a way they thought suitable and not in the way fanfic writers thought they should? If the fanbase whom have no ounce of talent when it comes to writing, starts writing games for developers, then the future of gaming is looking bleak. We'll go right back to square one when games were just considered a fun past time, a medium not to be taken seriously. There's a reason some of the most memorable characters of all time have set personalities, while the forgettable ones are a blank canvas that you can shape. Games should be about appealing to an audience, but they should not be made entirely that way.

Personally I enjoy a well written character. I don't need for them to be a certain sexuality or race for me to consider them good. I don't need them to represent me either. Maybe i'm just super secure. Liking a character specifically because of their sexuality is very shallow to me. I mean ultimately sexuality doesn't offer anything really. Kaidan Alenko became full out Bi in Mass Effect 3. Didn't make him any less boring than before.

Okay, I probably misunderstood you. Personally, I really love romances in a role-playing game, where I have freedom of action and decisions, but only if they are done well and not just about banging a certain character. And since I prefer same-sex romances, I am in a certain way dependent on Bioware, because I usually have almost no other games, where these romances are contained. But I agree with you that the foundation of the game must be created first before developer should think about romances.

I think you confusing good games as a concept with personal preferences. Saying that is shallow to have personal preferences when buying games makes no sense, people like what they like and no one should feel threatened by that. Also stating you are bi does not validate anything here lel quite the opposite, it means you can enjoy many more romances in stories.

Sure Geralt was straight but people seem to forget that Ciri is bisexual and you could play as her, CDPR is expanding and all the "sjw bs" is starting to appear in their game. Let us wait for Cyberpunk, I can see people already bitching about it. The same for Naughty Dog, there is a good amount of gay there too. People are diverse and games should represent that because that is real life. Also art is always going to have real life issues and influences, you cannot create what does not exist. 

IIRC Ciri is also bisexual in the books. So Ciri being bisexual in the game is just CDPR trying to stay close to the materials as they can, not because of "sjw bs".These people does not give a toss about that.

But when the time comes,maybe in CP2077 that they introduce a character other than hetero, they will do it if it makes sense, and if they can do them justice not because they need to slot in x amount of sexualities in there.

I am so glad Bioware left Alistair alone unlike Kaidan. I rather they made completely new lgbt characters like Dorian and Zev, whom I adore to bits.

That is true but The Witcher 3 decide to put a bisexual female character in a playable spot, they could had just do it with cut scenes and be done with it.

CP 2077 is base on a tabletop game about sex, rock&roll and technology so it is impossible to get way from the gays, that is what I mean. People are going to complain about it, especially if they do romances.

Isabela's tits alone make up for everything.

I don't see what you're seeing here.

I see people who are sick to death of hearing about TW3, and tired of TW3 fanboys and discussions invading threads made to discuss other games.

I also see a few people explaining the reasons why they have little to no interest in Geralt.  Geralt is, and always has been due to the novels, a fairly defined character.  Not everyone finds him relatable (or interesting) enough to want to try to RP him.

We all have different budgets (money, time, attention span) and most people choose to invest theirs in those things they find most interesting and feel will bring them the most benefit.  Believe it or not, for some people TW3 doesn't make the short list.