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Post by djinniboo on Feb 20, 2018 7:52:03 GMT
1. I think I have mentioned this before but the only lines of dialogue I found cringeworthy in Andromeda, as in lol for the wrong reasons, are the whole Nilken Rensus conversation testimony thing. "Argh! Ugh! Evacuate! etc!" I didn't think a lot of Fem or Bro Shep's lines were too cringeworthy, there were a couple of exceptions obviously...like 'talking to Jacob' made Abigail into the borderine...er flirt...she is. But I still maintain this is BioWare trying to give people different types of romances depending on who they romance. Some people just like their 'sexy' romances and some people like their super nerdy awkward romances. I seem to like romances in which the two characters have to complete and heal one another. (Miranda...Cora...Cullen...James...why was James not a romance FCOL?!) I completely agree! I hate that the only romance Shepard can have with James is a shallow one night stand (with the Citadel DLC). I'm glad she got to have him, but I would have liked an actual romance to develop between them. I've read a bit about why Bioware didn't make James a viable romantic companion for Shep, and I suppose I can concede their point. However, I will say that it sucks they made a man who trumps Kaidan in every way, yet he is not allowed to be a romantic companion. They should have made James homely and less flirty if that was their intention, because as he is now, I know many females who lust for that character, myself included. Shame on you, Bioware. As for the lines...I think all of Shep's lines were great. I also really like grumpy ol' Javik. He's hilarious!
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Post by Son of Dorn on Feb 20, 2018 8:58:06 GMT
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Post by goishen on Feb 20, 2018 14:56:55 GMT
It's not like we have new members flooding through our doors, at this point.
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Post by urkibalurki on Feb 20, 2018 16:55:50 GMT
Necroing this thread, huh?
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 13, 2018 13:17:30 GMT
LMAO. Anthem won't tank. heard the same about Andromeda, heard the same but in reverse about AC Odyssey. You have no certainty, neither do I, I only have hope There is no solid evidence that Andromeda tanked, its all speculation based on a couple of things to fit into narratives people want to tell.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Nov 14, 2018 2:10:01 GMT
heard the same about Andromeda, heard the same but in reverse about AC Odyssey. You have no certainty, neither do I, I only have hope There is no solid evidence that Andromeda tanked, its all speculation based on a couple of things to fit into narratives people want to tell. uhm...you mean BESIDES the fact that the planned DLC was scrapped and the team dissolved?
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 14, 2018 2:51:14 GMT
There is no solid evidence that Andromeda tanked, its all speculation based on a couple of things to fit into narratives people want to tell. uhm...you mean BESIDES the fact that the planned DLC was scrapped and the team dissolved? Why do those things only mean the game tanked? EA has talked positively about how Andromeda did to investors. They invested money in altering content of the game for they went back and modified the character generator and modified the Jaal romance to fall within the M/M romance. Even with this N7 day they spend the dev time to make a patch for the XB1 even if it was probably only a couple of hours. I just don't see a company like EA investing any money into something that tanked for they would expect it not to improve. Everything I saw is that they had a lack of management at the studio, so they might have had the people to make the content, but nobody to lead them.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Nov 15, 2018 2:18:52 GMT
uhm...you mean BESIDES the fact that the planned DLC was scrapped and the team dissolved? Why do those things only mean the game tanked? EA has talked positively about how Andromeda did to investors. They invested money in altering content of the game for they went back and modified the character generator and modified the Jaal romance to fall within the M/M romance. Even with this N7 day they spend the dev time to make a patch for the XB1 even if it was probably only a couple of hours. I just don't see a company like EA investing any money into something that tanked for they would expect it not to improve. Everything I saw is that they had a lack of management at the studio, so they might have had the people to make the content, but nobody to lead them. I'm sorry but....are you daft?? You quote quality of life improvements which were likely already budgeted for and that likely were done while the fate of MEA was being decided and assume they are an indicator that MEA performed satisfactorily??? Ok imagine this Ea exec 1: yo Bruce, that MEA sure did ok in spite of the reviews uh? Ea exec 2: yeah man, it made us a good chunk of change and people are playing it. What do you think we should do about it? Ea exec 1: oh oh I know....let's NOT capitalize on that! That DLC that was planned that, since the game was successful will make us even more money? Scrap it all and make some poor excuse MP reference to it! Do not incentivize the xbox community with an x patch until a year later even tho the x community is frothing at the mouth for 4k games. Quit support to the game sooner than ANY other Bioware game....oh yeah and let's dissolve the team that made the game too Ea expect 2: yeah...that'll do it!
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 15, 2018 5:44:01 GMT
Why do those things only mean the game tanked? EA has talked positively about how Andromeda did to investors. They invested money in altering content of the game for they went back and modified the character generator and modified the Jaal romance to fall within the M/M romance. Even with this N7 day they spend the dev time to make a patch for the XB1 even if it was probably only a couple of hours. I just don't see a company like EA investing any money into something that tanked for they would expect it not to improve. Everything I saw is that they had a lack of management at the studio, so they might have had the people to make the content, but nobody to lead them. I'm sorry but....are you daft?? You quote quality of life improvements which were likely already budgeted for and that likely were done while the fate of MEA was being decided and assume they are an indicator that MEA performed satisfactorily??? Ok imagine this Ea exec 1: yo Bruce, that MEA sure did ok in spite of the reviews uh? Ea exec 2: yeah man, it made us a good chunk of change and people are playing it. What do you think we should do about it? Ea exec 1: oh oh I know....let's NOT capitalize on that! That DLC that was planned that, since the game was successful will make us even more money? Scrap it all and make some poor excuse MP reference to it! Do not incentivize the xbox community with an x patch until a year later even tho the x community is frothing at the mouth for 4k games. Quit support to the game sooner than ANY other Bioware game....oh yeah and let's dissolve the team that made the game too Ea expect 2: yeah...that'll do it! So if they budget money for something they are not allowed to reclaim that money because you claim the game tanked? Using that logic wouldn't they have also had money already set aside for DLC because normally DLC work starts before a game ships. You are mocking my thought because you believe EA would have milked the game if it was successful, so the opposite should be just as true then if the game did tank then the money would have been reclaimed. I have dealt with shrinking budgets in the past it happens and things get cut and the money is removed. That example avoids everything that I was talking about. Your example only applies if there wasn't any problem with leadership or other internal problems at BioWare Montreal and they could just continue making content without having to worry about anything else besides new content. If EA fired or had to replace a director of a game they would have been looking hard at something going wrong during development (my opinion) close to the end of development I think they would have had the studio under a microscope. They put a whole lot of resources into the final stage of Andromeda's development by moving people from other studios and working crunch to finish the project. If they felt that the only reason why Andromeda was successful was that additional manpower and experience it could mean they would have no faith in the remaining studio. Imagine it this way. Andromeda might have been successful, but EA didn't consider BioWare Montreal successful in making Andromeda.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Nov 15, 2018 19:19:40 GMT
I'm sorry but....are you daft?? You quote quality of life improvements which were likely already budgeted for and that likely were done while the fate of MEA was being decided and assume they are an indicator that MEA performed satisfactorily??? Ok imagine this Ea exec 1: yo Bruce, that MEA sure did ok in spite of the reviews uh? Ea exec 2: yeah man, it made us a good chunk of change and people are playing it. What do you think we should do about it? Ea exec 1: oh oh I know....let's NOT capitalize on that! That DLC that was planned that, since the game was successful will make us even more money? Scrap it all and make some poor excuse MP reference to it! Do not incentivize the xbox community with an x patch until a year later even tho the x community is frothing at the mouth for 4k games. Quit support to the game sooner than ANY other Bioware game....oh yeah and let's dissolve the team that made the game too Ea expect 2: yeah...that'll do it! So if they budget money for something they are not allowed to reclaim that money because you claim the game tanked? Using that logic wouldn't they have also had money already set aside for DLC because normally DLC work starts before a game ships. You are mocking my thought because you believe EA would have milked the game if it was successful, so the opposite should be just as true then if the game did tank then the money would have been reclaimed. I have dealt with shrinking budgets in the past it happens and things get cut and the money is removed. That example avoids everything that I was talking about. Your example only applies if there wasn't any problem with leadership or other internal problems at BioWare Montreal and they could just continue making content without having to worry about anything else besides new content. If EA fired or had to replace a director of a game they would have been looking hard at something going wrong during development (my opinion) close to the end of development I think they would have had the studio under a microscope. They put a whole lot of resources into the final stage of Andromeda's development by moving people from other studios and working crunch to finish the project. If they felt that the only reason why Andromeda was successful was that additional manpower and experience it could mean they would have no faith in the remaining studio. Imagine it this way. Andromeda might have been successful, but EA didn't consider BioWare Montreal successful in making Andromeda. NONE of that changes the fact that I'd EA forecasted additional profits they would have done what they did with every game and that would be MILK IT. It is easier to replace leadership than it is to forsake profits especially since that is what shareholders want. Reclaiming unspent budget is a sign of profitability failure not a "need course correction" sign because you can bet your ass that if MEA made them as much money as, say, AC odyssey in spite of lukewarm reviews and "troubled leadership" they would have not pulled the plug.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 16, 2018 1:19:09 GMT
And it doesn't change the fact that Andromeda was a poorly designed game, and it causes skepicism of BioWare and their games because of their incompetence and lack of ambition.
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Post by Serza on Nov 16, 2018 8:18:25 GMT
Lack of ambition, huh.
Pay attention.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 16, 2018 16:23:42 GMT
If they have ambition then Andromeda would've been more epic and not look like a half-asssed job.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Nov 17, 2018 2:06:35 GMT
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Post by alanc9 on Nov 19, 2018 8:32:35 GMT
If they have ambition then Andromeda would've been more epic and not look like a half-asssed job. I'll bite. How does more ambition help the ME: A design? They didn't properly realize the design vision they had. I get that you're just here to say bad things about ME:A, but what's the case?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 19, 2018 15:59:36 GMT
If they have ambition then Andromeda would've been more epic and not look like a half-asssed job. I'll bite. How does more ambition help the ME: A design? They didn't properly realize the design vision they had. I get that you're just here to say bad things about ME:A, but what's the case? If anything Bioware had too much ambition for MEA, since that ambition for things like procedurally-generated worlds is what got them in a bit of trouble when that didn't work.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 20, 2018 20:54:21 GMT
uhm...you mean BESIDES the fact that the planned DLC was scrapped and the team dissolved? Why do those things only mean the game tanked? EA has talked positively about how Andromeda did to investors. They invested money in altering content of the game for they went back and modified the character generator and modified the Jaal romance to fall within the M/M romance. Even with this N7 day they spend the dev time to make a patch for the XB1 even if it was probably only a couple of hours. I just don't see a company like EA investing any money into something that tanked for they would expect it not to improve. Everything I saw is that they had a lack of management at the studio, so they might have had the people to make the content, but nobody to lead them. I'm sure you ever heard of quality over quantity, right?
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