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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 12, 2017 22:47:45 GMT
That's only for PC though, its slightly higher for PS4 and Xbox ONE. Anyways to be perfectly honest this thread went off topic and died the minute someone mentioned The Witcher 3 AKA The Thread Killer.Soooooo, the OP? You mean the troll know as Dutch's Ghost, yeah. Since that is all he did at BSN Prime and he's continuing his old act here. These kind of threads were useful once upon a time now it just trolling and not even good trolling when you get ideas challenged now it's just attention whore trolling of the lowest order. Here is a poll question: Do you think Dutch's Ghost will love ME:A? Yes he will love it like a sane normal BioWare fan (whatever that means). Yes he will love it more than TW3 but he act like he hates it because that is his gimmick here. Yes he will love it so much he publicly declare his love and will marry his copy of it. And if anyone wants to it they can post it just make sure it obeys the rules here.
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Post by Vall on Jan 12, 2017 22:51:46 GMT
Soooooo, the OP? You mean the troll know as Dutch's Ghost, yeah. Since that is all he did at BSN Prime and he's continuing his old act here. These kind of threads were useful once upon a time now it just trolling and not even good trolling when you get ideas challenged now it's just attention whore trolling of the lowest order. Here is a poll question: Do you think Dutch's Ghost will love ME:A? Yes he will love it like a sane normal BioWare fan. Yes he will love it more than TW3 but he act like he hates it because that is his gimmick here. Yes he will love it so much he publicly declare his love and will marry his copy of it. Think I should post this in the Lobby forum? Sounds like a "really pleasant" person...and as much as I would love to see the results of a poll like that, it would just waste of time and space.
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Post by amleth on Jan 12, 2017 23:57:34 GMT
God the groupthink here is terrifying :/
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Post by DoomsdayDevice on Jan 13, 2017 0:26:19 GMT
You know, I don't feel the need to go around making threads and spreading negativity, but surely I can't be the only one here with very little faith in what's coming.
I mean the whole lead-up to this, with the closing of the forums, so many people leaving Bioware. The whole 'let's move the entire franchise to another freaking galaxy, so we can dodge the outcome of the trilogy'.
It has all left a really bad taste in my mouth, and doesn't inspire much faith at all. I haven't seen anything in the released material so far that had me really wowed or excited. It's all just familiar and not really new or interesting.
Yet almost everyone here seems hyped and completely confident in Bioware, despite the whole dick move with the closing of the forums and the 'hit us up on Twitter' bullshit. It's like everyone's forgotten all that and just going "shut up and take my moneys". Or maybe all the disappointed people have just stopped posting here, I don't know.
I mean, I don't really care per se, but I find it kind of baffling and impossible to go along with. I honestly can't bring myself to feel that way.
I just feel like they're going for something that feels like revisiting ME1, and it could be something like The Force Awakens. All nostalgia, and very little substance.
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Post by Gwydden on Jan 13, 2017 0:40:38 GMT
Sorry, I don't know where you got this information from but you've been pranked. DA:I is the low point of Bioware games, this is a game that manages the impossible, being worse than Dragon Age 2. It's at a 5.9 user score on metacritic. It has bombed so hard Bioware has not released the sales numbers to this day. I am actually impressed by the vote of confidence, 13% yes to 87% no, even considering this is a site which would be more likely to be visited by Bioware fans. The last trailers haven't been confidence-inspiring either. I think Sibling Rivalry with Tom Taylorson & Fryda Wolff has got to be the cringiest video I have seen in my life, worse than that puke-eating japanese girl one, you know what I'm talking about. DA:I was well received by PROFESSIONAL video game critics, who I trust a lot more than a bunch of angry stupid shit heads who get pissed every time they get wind of a political message in a game or just because there is LGBT characters and the game treated them like people and not hurtful jokes and they can't just run around blow shit up and teabag newbies in MP deathmatches. And IMHO trusting sites like Metacritc and Rotten Tomatoes as a system is a bad idea. It's been constantly abused by people with political agendas (both left and right) to prove that a game or movie is good or bad for whatever their political agenda is, or it becomes a bunch of amateur critics who think that if can type more than 1 paragraph that they can prove that professional critics are out of touch or win whatever the bullshit political argument the day is. It is a running joke that professional video game critics cannot count below seven, and while there is some hyperbole at play I wouldn't say there isn't any truth to that perception. At any rate, a professional critic is not someone with more refined tastes than us lowly mortals. They, quite literally, get paid for having opinions. If they are good at their job, they will be better at defending those opinions than the average person e.g. they will provide more elaborate explanations than "it was awesome," "it sucked," etcetera. And Metacritics scores are just popularity contests. I still find them more useful than what the professionals have to say, as a rule, but one has to look for the helpful ones. Usually, that means staying away from 0s and 10s and searching for someone who has something concrete and useful to say.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jan 13, 2017 0:59:29 GMT
You know, I don't feel the need to go around making threads and spreading negativity, but surely I can't be the only one here with very little faith in what's coming. I mean the whole lead-up to this, with the closing of the forums, so many people leaving Bioware. The whole 'let's move the entire franchise to another freaking galaxy, so we can dodge the outcome of the trilogy'. It has all left a really bad taste in my mouth, and doesn't inspire much faith at all. I haven't seen anything in the released material so far that had me really wowed or excited. It's all just familiar and not really new or interesting. Yet almost everyone here seems hyped and completely confident in Bioware, despite the whole dick move with the closing of the forums and the 'hit us up on Twitter' bullshit. It's like everyone's forgotten all that and just going "shut up and take my moneys". Or maybe all the disappointed people have just stopped posting here, I don't know. I mean, I don't really care per se, but I find it kind of baffling and impossible to go along with. I honestly can't bring myself to feel that way. I just feel like they're going for something that feels like revisiting ME1, and it could be something like The Force Awakens. All nostalgia, and very little substance. I think it goes both ways. On one side....Bioware MUST be held accountable. Despite being the "best selling" Bioware launch and getting loads of GOTY awards (in a weak year IMO) the game left a sour after taste in a lot of people's mouths. After TW3 came out, people really viewed DAI in a different view. They saw how better side missions and the open world was done in TW3 and all of a sudden after the novelty of DAI wore off, many of the shortcomings of DAI was revealed. So the fear for many is that after ME3 and DAI, MEA will dissapoint. However, I think we all need to give off of Bioware's back, keep an open mind, and give them a chance. ME3's ending happened....now let it go. DAI's fetch quest and boring open world's happened....now let it go.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 1:49:39 GMT
That's only for PC though, its slightly higher for PS4 and Xbox ONE. Anyways to be perfectly honest this thread went off topic and died the minute someone mentioned The Witcher 3 AKA The Thread Killer.Soooooo, the OP? I really haven't been paying that much attention to every page on this thread lol I literally voted in the poll then joined in at around page 15 Talk about DOA
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Post by derrame on Jan 13, 2017 3:43:03 GMT
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 13, 2017 4:06:33 GMT
Now I know this thread has gone on too long Well, 18 pages is way too long for such a (no disrespect) pointless question. I mean, in the pre-release material for certain games some telltale signs might be found that something is off ... like the fact that there was a ridiculous amount of emphasis on vehicular combat in Arkham Knight's promotion, or the fact that there was no gameplay in No Man's Sky's demos. So far, for MEA, there's been nothing of the sort. I haven't played DA:I, but I'm aware that it was well received; and some even called it a 'return to form' on BioWare's part. That's very encouraging. So I'm pretty optimistic at this point -- and I was one of the people who rioted about ME3's ending. Which is fine because, you know, you actually played the game to know there was something about it you didn't like.
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Post by pdusen on Jan 13, 2017 4:12:14 GMT
God the groupthink here is terrifying :/ Multiple people independently disagreeing with you is not "groupthink."
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Jan 13, 2017 5:20:33 GMT
Sorry, I don't know where you got this information from but you've been pranked. DA:I is the low point of Bioware games, this is a game that manages the impossible, being worse than Dragon Age 2. It's at a 5.9 user score on metacritic. It has bombed so hard Bioware has not released the sales numbers to this day. I am actually impressed by the vote of confidence, 13% yes to 87% no, even considering this is a site which would be more likely to be visited by Bioware fans. The last trailers haven't been confidence-inspiring either. I think Sibling Rivalry with Tom Taylorson & Fryda Wolff has got to be the cringiest video I have seen in my life, worse than that puke-eating japanese girl one, you know what I'm talking about. That's only for PC though, its slightly higher for PS4 and Xbox ONE. Anyways to be perfectly honest this thread went off topic and died the minute someone mentioned The Witcher 3 AKA The Thread Killer. So just mentioning The Witcher 3 instantly kills a thread now?
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Post by slimgrin on Jan 13, 2017 5:52:05 GMT
Not many devs trying to do open world RPGs with heavy story right now. The ME team needs encouragement if anything.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 13, 2017 7:42:46 GMT
You know, I don't feel the need to go around making threads and spreading negativity, but surely I can't be the only one here with very little faith in what's coming. I mean the whole lead-up to this, with the closing of the forums, so many people leaving Bioware. The whole 'let's move the entire franchise to another freaking galaxy, so we can dodge the outcome of the trilogy'. It has all left a really bad taste in my mouth, and doesn't inspire much faith at all. I haven't seen anything in the released material so far that had me really wowed or excited. It's all just familiar and not really new or interesting. Yet almost everyone here seems hyped and completely confident in Bioware, despite the whole dick move with the closing of the forums and the 'hit us up on Twitter' bullshit. It's like everyone's forgotten all that and just going "shut up and take my moneys". Or maybe all the disappointed people have just stopped posting here, I don't know. I mean, I don't really care per se, but I find it kind of baffling and impossible to go along with. I honestly can't bring myself to feel that way. I just feel like they're going for something that feels like revisiting ME1, and it could be something like The Force Awakens. All nostalgia, and very little substance. I'm not worried, and I'm aware of all the things you stated. I was there at the closing of the official forums, and honestly I was glad for it. They talk about toxic communities, but this took the cake. The posts kept getting more negative and more argumentative until I almost couldn't stand to go there anymore. And always ALWAYS with the endings! So I understood why they did it, because they had just become a breeding ground for hate. As for people leaving, I know some did, but a great many others stayed on, and turnover is very common in this industry. Moving to Andromeda is kind of a bummer, but I'm not sure what choice their was. Prequel games could be fun but the outcome known. Side games with smaller scope could be good (Garrus as Archangel, Thane's missions, etc) but playing as not Shep would have made a lot of people upset. Canon ending? Noooooo. So I'm excited, but still aware of the stuff that happened. It just doesn't bother me. For me the games were never about who made them or the forums or the endings. They were about the journey, and the amazing times I had playing both the SP and the MP. Andromeda might not be the game I hope it is. Bioware might disappoint me. But that will never take away the love I have for EVERYTHING Mass Effect in the original trilogy.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 13, 2017 11:48:11 GMT
You know, I don't feel the need to go around making threads and spreading negativity, but surely I can't be the only one here with very little faith in what's coming. I mean the whole lead-up to this, with the closing of the forums, so many people leaving Bioware. The whole 'let's move the entire franchise to another freaking galaxy, so we can dodge the outcome of the trilogy'. It has all left a really bad taste in my mouth, and doesn't inspire much faith at all. I haven't seen anything in the released material so far that had me really wowed or excited. It's all just familiar and not really new or interesting. Yet almost everyone here seems hyped and completely confident in Bioware, despite the whole dick move with the closing of the forums and the 'hit us up on Twitter' bullshit. It's like everyone's forgotten all that and just going "shut up and take my moneys". Or maybe all the disappointed people have just stopped posting here, I don't know. I mean, I don't really care per se, but I find it kind of baffling and impossible to go along with. I honestly can't bring myself to feel that way. I just feel like they're going for something that feels like revisiting ME1, and it could be something like The Force Awakens. All nostalgia, and very little substance. I'm not worried, and I'm aware of all the things you stated. I was there at the closing of the official forums, and honestly I was glad for it. They talk about toxic communities, but this took the cake. The posts kept getting more negative and more argumentative until I almost couldn't stand to go there anymore. And always ALWAYS with the endings! So I understood why they did it, because they had just become a breeding ground for hate. As for people leaving, I know some did, but a great many others stayed on, and turnover is very common in this industry. Moving to Andromeda is kind of a bummer, but I'm not sure what choice their was. Prequel games could be fun but the outcome known. Side games with smaller scope could be good (Garrus as Archangel, Thane's missions, etc) but playing as not Shep would have made a lot of people upset. Canon ending? Noooooo. So I'm excited, but still aware of the stuff that happened. It just doesn't bother me. For me the games were never about who made them or the forums or the endings. They were about the journey, and the amazing times I had playing both the SP and the MP. Andromeda might not be the game I hope it is. Bioware might disappoint me. But that will never take away the love I have for EVERYTHING Mass Effect in the original trilogy. Couldn't have put it better myself.
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Post by cloud9 on Jan 14, 2017 2:24:05 GMT
God the groupthink here is terrifying :/ Tell me about it.
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Post by wolfsite on Jan 14, 2017 2:33:15 GMT
BSN........ BSN never changes........
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Post by stealthfox94 on Jan 14, 2017 20:01:46 GMT
Seems like every post regarding this game, on YouTube and other places. People are talking about how this game "will probably be terrible", how the combat "looks bad" and how "Bioware is a trash company". What gives? I'm really looking forward to this game. The only thing I'm mildly concerned about is that the gameplay might revolve too much around the Rover, I don't want another Batman Arkham Knight. I will say that I'm aware of the Manveer Heir situation, I don't really care about it and I'm not sure why it would effect peoples buying decision. I actually got a good laugh out of some of his Twitter post.
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Post by DalishRanger on Jan 14, 2017 20:05:46 GMT
Assuming this isn't a subtle attempt at trolling with the 1 post count and the Manveer Heir comment, answering seriously: This kind of talk is common before a BioWare release in my experience. Probably a bit more so this time from a mixture of lack of information compared to the usual marketing, and there's still a lot of distrust leftover from the Mass Effect 3 ending.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Jan 14, 2017 20:09:33 GMT
... I will say that I'm aware of the Manveer Heir situation, I don't really care about it and I'm not sure why it would effect peoples buying decision. I actually got a good laugh out of some of his Twitter post. Skepticism is good, it means that at least some people learned from previous disappointments. Besides, it's much more enjoyable to be positively surprised, than terribly disappointed. As for Manveer the idiot, I have to wonder if you would find it as funny if he targeted a different group, one that you care about more perhaps, would that be as funny then? I'm a minority and yeah I'd probably still laugh at how ignorant he was, looking at some of his recent Tweets I'm now convinced he's just a massive troll.
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Post by hammerstorm on Jan 14, 2017 20:12:35 GMT
I see it as people that are negative about the game are just trying to make it so they have less expectations, so if it is bad, they don't get so sad. So they are people that are really excited and want it to be good, but they try to make it look like they are not. that is why it is better to be a cynic like me instead. That way, I can be happy and excited but if it goes to hell I'm not that bothered.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jan 14, 2017 20:15:02 GMT
Because BioWare is held to ridiculously high standards.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 14, 2017 20:16:39 GMT
A Manveer Heir thread?
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Post by stealthfox94 on Jan 14, 2017 20:18:29 GMT
Congratulations. Me too, kinda. I still think that his hate boner isn't nearly as funny as he seems to think it is. You don't fight racism by creating a new brand of the stuff. Oh yeah the guy is still a POS, and yeah if he bashed Blacks or Hispanics, he clearly would have been fired on the spot.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Jan 14, 2017 20:22:27 GMT
Oh yeah the guy is still a POS, and yeah if he bashed Blacks or Hispanics, he clearly would have been fired on the spot. Yeah, which is the whole point. I'm honestly not sure how he gets along in the workplace, I mean I'm pretty sure Bioware's staff is mostly white right?
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Post by tiamariegamer on Jan 14, 2017 20:34:14 GMT
I definitely find some of the skepticism a bit annoying sometimes. It sometimes feels like no matter what Bioware does people are looking for something to go wrong or reasons to hate on a game that hasn't even been released yet. I get that people feel they have been burned in the past by other games or even Bioware. However to pick apart every little thing can not only ruin the experience for themselves but for other people too.
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