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Post by Ivory Samoan on Jan 16, 2017 7:58:19 GMT
This remains some of my favorite youtube.... The Mako is an example of jank in the best and worst ways possible. That little bugger, as moronic as it could be XD
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 7:58:41 GMT
This remains some of my favorite youtube.... Yep... I don't see a problem at all. In the video, his control over the Mako seems absolutely pinpoint perfect. He even keeps great time with the music.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 16, 2017 8:09:40 GMT
[From the 'fail hard?' thread] In all honesty, we're treading much the same ground in this thread as in the: skepticism thread, so I'm going to recommend we carry on over there. bsn.boards.net/thread/3386EDIT: Folding this thread into the other as the themes continue.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 16, 2017 9:06:43 GMT
This remains some of my favorite youtube.... Since we're posting Mako videos: I love the last minute in this. It's surprisingly touching.
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Post by nem7 on Jan 16, 2017 9:30:49 GMT
Moderators close topics faster then Tempest speed, so here is another my repost: -------- With such attention to details when they give us unarmed vehicle into dangerous expedition, so the team will be forced to close combat without any artillery support... We have stupid plot hole right from the beginnig. So I won't be surprised if Andromeda fails.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 16, 2017 10:00:15 GMT
Moderators close topics faster then Tempest speed, so here is another my repost: -------- With such attention to details when they give us unarmed vehicle into dangerous expedition, so the team will be forced to close combat without any artillery support... We have stupid plot hole right from the beginnig. So I won't be surprised if Andromeda fails. The entire Ai is an enormous plot hole. It doesn't make sense, it's there so we can have a new Mass Effect game. That said, I don't think it makes Andromeda more or less likely to be a great game. Most people will overlook such flaws in logic when the game is good enough.
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Post by helios969 on Jan 16, 2017 11:23:30 GMT
Moderators close topics faster then Tempest speed, so here is another my repost: -------- With such attention to details when they give us unarmed vehicle into dangerous expedition, so the team will be forced to close combat without any artillery support... We have stupid plot hole right from the beginnig. So I won't be surprised if Andromeda fails. The entire Ai is an enormous plot hole. It doesn't make sense, it's there so we can have a new Mass Effect game. That said, I don't think it makes Andromeda more or less likely to be a great game. Most people will overlook such flaws in logic when if the game is good enough. Fixed it.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 16, 2017 12:03:47 GMT
The entire Ai is an enormous plot hole. It doesn't make sense, it's there so we can have a new Mass Effect game. That said, I don't think it makes Andromeda more or less likely to be a great game. Most people will overlook such flaws in logic when if the game is good enough. Fixed it. Urgh, I find "fixing" other people posts to be such an inelegant thing to do. But that's actually what I meant. When a game is good enough, people overlook flaws. ME1 and DA2 are a fantastic example of that, the games shared many flaws, but while DA2 was pounded, ME1 was praised.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 12:11:20 GMT
Urgh, I find "fixing" other people posts to be such an inelegant thing to do. But that's actually what I meant. When a game is good enough, people overlook flaws. ME1 and DA2 are a fantastic example of that, the games shared many flaws, but while DA2 was pounded, ME1 was praised. This is true of most media to be honest. No one piece of media whether it film, TV or games is going to be 100 % perfect, flaw free. And even if in our eyes, a piece of media appears to be perfect first couple of times we engage with it, eventually we can start to see a few flaws here and there, but it doesn't detract from our perception of, or love of the media still because its good and even necessary to find these flaws sometimes and call them out, be critical of media that we enjoy and engage with. Just don't flog a dead horse, like criticisms of some games, and arguably praises of others. Like for example growing up I genuinely thought Jurassic Park was the best film ever. Now, I still love it, its one of my all time favourite films, but there are so many flaws and mistakes and errors in that film its insane. Like the T-Rex somehow being on even terrain with the jeeps and escaping his enclosure, then when he pushes one of the jeeps back into his enclosure, its suddenly a frigging cliff five feet down below, like how?! Andromeda will have flaws. I suppose the retconning that comes with the Andromeda Initiative and general premise of MEA is going to be a big one for some people to climb over, but I think that if Andromeda provides an engaging and great enough experience, people can get over the retcon and other flaws in the game, and enjoy it. I think if a story or narrative was flaw free, didn't have breaks in realism here and there or whatever, arguably the story or narrative would lose a lot of its appeal and escapism factor.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 16, 2017 12:14:00 GMT
This remains some of my favorite youtube.... nice find fun with the Mako.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 12:52:13 GMT
I am happy with Mako's evolution into a garden variety speeder. I did not like vehicular combat in first ME1, and it was my only experience of it. So maybe it can be done well, but I just don't know. My only flight simulator was also Bio made, the GSF in SWTOR, and it had a learning curve beyond reasonable imo, both in pvp and PvE formats. So I am happy Tempest doesn't have guns and associated combat.
Honestly, I think the game's going be fine, with the only potential problem I can see in alll the info being that it might have boring filler map exploration, crafting and mob grind parts.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 16, 2017 14:01:09 GMT
Casey hudson left bioware some time ago not so sure about mac walters Mac's back at Bioware. He's been twitting about ME:A, according to my google search. He's not just back, he was promoted to Creative Director for the Mass Effect IP.
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Post by degs29 on Jan 16, 2017 14:53:12 GMT
I find both fanboys and haters equally annoying. It's good to have a healthy amount of skepticism. Being overly optimistic or overly pessimistic can ruin your enjoyment of a game, either because of it never living up to your standards, or because you never give it a chance.
I have yet to regret buying a Bioware game. Some parts have disappointed me, like the ending of ME3 and the rushed nature of DA2. But I enjoyed both those games, especially ME3. Actually, I still debate which is my favourite ME game, 2 or 3. If it weren't for the ending, the choice would be clear.
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Post by Spectr61 on Jan 16, 2017 17:22:19 GMT
The second and third Mass Effect games were considerably less open, more opting to give you the choice of one of a few different routes you could go in which you ultimately had to go to all of them in the end anyway(This has been the standard BioWare formula for a long time). Plus a few side missions you could choose to do if you wanted to. The first game at least had the planetary exploration bit, even if the Mako did handle like a drunken rhino in a bouncy castle.This is an insult to drunken rhinos in bouncy castles. Ahem. Following in the overly sensitive and illogical footsteps of some of the other posts in this thread; If you are uncomfortable with this treatment of rhinos and castles, you are by definition rhino and castle-phobic. Hah.
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Post by Arcian on Jan 16, 2017 18:06:29 GMT
Yes, their fans telling them they can do literally nothing wrong is a ridiculously high standard to live up to. What you're actually describing is having no standards. Congratulations, you understood the sarcasm!
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jan 16, 2017 18:23:22 GMT
Congratulations, you understood the sarcasm! Oh I'm sorry... was that word salad supposed to be sarcasm? I suppose it is fitting you'd have no standards for humor. I couldn't understand why you were trying to contrast having ridiculously high standards with having no standards, as if I ever made the implication that there shouldn't be any of the sort. It's the same hyperbolic assessment that drives you and your ilk to suck the fun out of games you claim to enjoy.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jan 16, 2017 20:22:00 GMT
What I understand about EA's new approach of marketing basically came from reading what an insider had to say about the subject on NeoGaf. Originally Posted by Nirolak : "To my understanding, publishers found that the vast majority of pre-release marketing is only paid attention to with the initial debut trailer, and the content very close to launch, so they pretty much collapsed the marketing cycle to fit that. This also lets you display content that is very polished in all your marketing materials instead of having content from a long time ago coming back to haunt you. A lot of the most effective marketing also comes from betas and streamers, so they need freely playable content that doesn't have a ton of bugs/issues, which only tends to happen near the end. On top of that, direct marketing is both very effective and cost effective, and they don't need to do ad buys as far in advance for that to time up with major sports events and the like. Finally, service games are a big part of this. You don't want to distract from your current games, because you want people to keep playing them as long as possible. Similarly, you actually want to be releasing a lot of information post launch about your existing titles and the updates they're receiving, so your marketing is often focusing on that instead of what is releasing next." m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=227662397#post227662397But I think that was said by devs already. The next two months and half they're going to dump a lot out there. It seems they're pretty confident about the game. March needs to come quickly.
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Post by spacebeetle on Jan 16, 2017 20:51:27 GMT
Also, while we're celebrating the old chap: My apologies if it has already been posted.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 16, 2017 21:10:13 GMT
What I understand about EA's new approach of marketing basically came from reading what an insider had to say about the subject on NeoGaf. Originally Posted by Nirolak : "To my understanding, publishers found that the vast majority of pre-release marketing is only paid attention to with the initial debut trailer, and the content very close to launch, so they pretty much collapsed the marketing cycle to fit that. This also lets you display content that is very polished in all your marketing materials instead of having content from a long time ago coming back to haunt you. A lot of the most effective marketing also comes from betas and streamers, so they need freely playable content that doesn't have a ton of bugs/issues, which only tends to happen near the end. On top of that, direct marketing is both very effective and cost effective, and they don't need to do ad buys as far in advance for that to time up with major sports events and the like. Finally, service games are a big part of this. You don't want to distract from your current games, because you want people to keep playing them as long as possible. Similarly, you actually want to be releasing a lot of information post launch about your existing titles and the updates they're receiving, so your marketing is often focusing on that instead of what is releasing next." m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=227662397#post227662397But I think that was said by devs already. The next two months and half they're going to dump a lot out there. It seems they're pretty confident about the game. March needs to come quickly. the best thing about that is its basically free publicity. You loose out maybe 60 bucks to have someone play your game instead of hundreds thousands and even millions on advertising.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 16, 2017 22:45:46 GMT
What I understand about EA's new approach of marketing basically came from reading what an insider had to say about the subject on NeoGaf. Originally Posted by Nirolak : "To my understanding, publishers found that the vast majority of pre-release marketing is only paid attention to with the initial debut trailer, and the content very close to launch, so they pretty much collapsed the marketing cycle to fit that. This also lets you display content that is very polished in all your marketing materials instead of having content from a long time ago coming back to haunt you. A lot of the most effective marketing also comes from betas and streamers, so they need freely playable content that doesn't have a ton of bugs/issues, which only tends to happen near the end. On top of that, direct marketing is both very effective and cost effective, and they don't need to do ad buys as far in advance for that to time up with major sports events and the like. Finally, service games are a big part of this. You don't want to distract from your current games, because you want people to keep playing them as long as possible. Similarly, you actually want to be releasing a lot of information post launch about your existing titles and the updates they're receiving, so your marketing is often focusing on that instead of what is releasing next." m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=227662397#post227662397But I think that was said by devs already. The next two months and half they're going to dump a lot out there. It seems they're pretty confident about the game. March needs to come quickly. the best thing about that is its basically free publicity. You loose out maybe 60 bucks to have someone play your game instead of hundreds thousands and even millions on advertising. Sounds pretty credible to me. Fallout 4 showed it was possible.
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Post by redintifada on Jan 17, 2017 2:32:26 GMT
I am sceptical. I will most likely get the new Mass Effect but after obsessing in the 2 years leading up to DAI, I feel burned. The thing that annoyed me the most with that game is the promises presented in the Demo's that were never delivered, and they never told their fans that they weren't going to deliver them. Some of that is written about here kotaku.com/dragon-age-inquisition-used-to-be-a-way-different-game-1684304172Essentially it looked like in DAI there would be a lot more choices (like there were in Origins) which radically change the world. There have also been similar promises made about Andromeda in terms of places you colonise being able to be customise the purpose of planets you take over in the way they promised and didn't deliver forts being able to be used for military, espionage and trade purposes in DAI (and then didn't deliver). At least this time they have had the sense not to show a lot of footage of things they may not be able to deliver on.
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Post by mmoblitz on Jan 17, 2017 2:58:40 GMT
what nonsense is this? The benefit of a small marketing campaign is people can't know a lot to make these determinations. Unless they are using the marketing campaign as evidence and that's... Silly. I agree with them in that Bioware is probably wrapping up development very late, and that's the reason the marketing hasn't kicked off yet. I doubt that EA would be for a low level marketing plan with a major IP. I doubted that a AAA studio would shutdown their official forums months ahead of a New game on a Major IP, but it happened. Combine that with the senior people that have bailed in the past year, along with the lack of information, new management (who came from mobile development), and I don't get a warm fuzzy.
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Post by CursedPanther on Jan 17, 2017 4:00:54 GMT
Liking every bit of the skepticism. It means the gaming community is definitely keeping the hype in check this time around.
ME3 was hyped sky high and eventually crashed and burned real hard. If MEA turns out to be mediocre at best you won't have an angry mob marching towards your office right away at least.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 17, 2017 4:28:28 GMT
This remains some of my favorite youtube.... What I get out of this is that a Mako with no weapons could still destroy a hell of a lot of its enemies.
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Post by nfi42 on Jan 17, 2017 5:02:54 GMT
Jumping back into the Mass Effect pool after mostly staying away from the interwebz for the last 2 months.
From the previews I've seen, I remain skeptical. ie I will buy if/when there is a goty edition with all DLC and I like the lets play video's.
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