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Post by NRieh on Feb 14, 2017 22:05:02 GMT
The thing is...it's not the 'trolls'. It's BW. Their PC charkits are terrible. From what we've seen in the most recent screens - aliens look the best, dadRyder had some improvements over uncle Gamlen, but is sufferring from the heavy oily skin gloss, and PCs have the worst of it (as if they are not supposed to be the top priority).
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Post by Wulfram on Feb 14, 2017 22:38:20 GMT
The thing that I'm mainly sceptical at the moment is the world-building. I just don't get a sense of a believable world at the moment. Much of its basically pretty trivial - Tempest not having weapons, the doubling down on melee weapons, even Peebee having eyebrows - but it all contributes.
My big problem on the other hand is the motivation for going to Andromeda. Its a problem for basically all of the Milky Way characters in the game. I don't buy "exploration", and a secret motive behind the project doesn't fix things for anyone who wasn't in on the secret.
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Post by General Mahad on Feb 15, 2017 0:39:47 GMT
^^ Indeed, lighting and camera angle hugely impact the overall look of a portrait. So does facial expression. Take the shot in the middle of the subject being surprised, disgusted, or expressing any of a number of other emotions, and the subject will probably look less attractive than they do when they are posing to have a portrait taken. And I'm getting quite tired of internet trolls (not accusing anyone in particular of this, to be clear) taking stills mid-expression with the worst possible lighting and then proclaiming a character ugly. It's not about Sis!Ryder getting hit with the ugly stick, it's about BioWare's incompetence in using facial capture and their character creator tech still having flaws.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 6:38:07 GMT
I wanted to check this thread out because I'm legitimately a bit worried about Andromeda, but this seems like kind of a circlejerk on the most mundane details. This entire page is dedicated to Sara being ugly, for example. I don't think she looks ugly. She doesn't look like a perfect Goddess, but she's quite cute. I don't think adjusting her nose and jaw and all that is necessary. The eyes look a little devoid of life, but that could very well just be the static model used for the character kits, and not be indicative of the final product.
Like, seriously, I don't care about the graphics. Not everything has to look photorealistic to look good. The game has a bit of a stylized flair to it, and you're certainly not obligated to like it, but the fact that so many people are ranting about how it looks objectively bad is really quite frustrating.
Personally, I'm more worried by the fact that the marketing has been so sparse. It's troubling to me that EA, of all people, won't advertise their own game, especially being one of their biggest IPs.
I'm worried because Dragon Age II was meh, Mass Effect 3 was bad, Inquisition was boring, and the backlash from those three games has literally caused a divide between the developers and the fans so huge that the old BSN had to be torn down because of all the resentment between them, scattering everyone to Twitter, here, or just off of Bioware's radar entirely, to the point that I have no idea if Andromeda is going to feel like a Mass Effect game at all because of a simultaneous desire to stick with what made the IP what it is, and distance itself as much as possible from every other lame title Bioware has put out in the last decade or so.
I'm worried that the Kett seem like the main villain from Halo 4 to a T. I'm worried that Mac, in an interview, said that he was okay with Andromeda being compared to Inquisition because "it got GOTY". I'm worried that that kind of arrogance and complete contempt for the obvious dissatisfaction from the fanbase will lead to products that are completely alienating to people like me who, after ME3, want desperately to give a single shred of a shit about this broken series, or rather, this broken company, that has essentially been on a downhill slope since partnering up with EA.
I'm worried that, despite barely showing anything for the game, that EA has the fucking balls to try selling an almost $300 CE when the price of the game is included.
Seriously, Bioware, I'm trying to care. You've made lackluster games for years now, ripped apart the community that made them what they are, and moved on to shadier and shadier practices since partnering up with EA, but I WANT to like Mass Effect. Give people some reason to care about your shitty games. I hate how some of the most important people in my life are people I met on your site, and I have to talk them into even watching a trailer for your new stuff because of how far you've sunk. It sucks. Do something that makes people care. Show off the things you're proud of, try to fix the things you aren't.
Fuck. I needed to get that off my chest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 6:48:28 GMT
I wanted to check this thread out because I'm legitimately a bit worried about Andromeda, but this seems like kind of a circlejerk on the most mundane details. This entire page is dedicated to Sara being ugly, for example. I don't think she looks ugly. She doesn't look like a perfect Goddess, but she's quite cute. I don't think adjusting her nose and jaw and all that is necessary. The eyes look a little devoid of life, but that could very well just be the static model used for the character kits, and not be indicative of the final product.
Like, seriously, I don't care about the graphics. Not everything has to look photorealistic to look good. The game has a bit of a stylized flair to it, and you're certainly not obligated to like it, but the fact that so many people are ranting about how it looks objectively bad is really quite frustrating.
Personally, I'm more worried by the fact that the marketing has been so sparse. It's troubling to me that EA, of all people, won't advertise their own game, especially being one of their biggest IPs.
I'm worried because Dragon Age II was meh, Mass Effect 3 was bad, Inquisition was boring, and the backlash from those three games has literally caused a divide between the developers and the fans so huge that the old BSN had to be torn down because of all the resentment between them, scattering everyone to Twitter, here, or just off of Bioware's radar entirely, to the point that I have no idea if Andromeda is going to feel like a Mass Effect game at all because of a simultaneous desire to stick with what made the IP what it is, and distance itself as much as possible from every other lame title Bioware has put out in the last decade or so.
I'm worried that the Kett seem like the main villain from Halo 4 to a T. I'm worried that Mac, in an interview, said that he was okay with Andromeda being compared to Inquisition because "it got GOTY". I'm worried that that kind of arrogance and complete contempt for the obvious dissatisfaction from the fanbase will lead to products that are completely alienating to people like me who, after ME3, want desperately to give a single shred of a shit about this broken series, or rather, this broken company, that has essentially been on a downhill slope since partnering up with EA.
I'm worried that, despite barely showing anything for the game, that EA has the fucking balls to try selling an almost $300 CE when the price of the game is included. Seriously, Bioware, I'm trying to care. You've made lackluster games for years now, ripped apart the community that made them what they are, and moved on to shadier and shadier practices since partnering up with EA, but I WANT to like Mass Effect. Give people some reason to care about your shitty games. I hate how some of the most important people in my life are people I met on your site, and I have to talk them into even watching a trailer for your new stuff because of how far you've sunk. It sucks. Do something that makes people care. Show off the things you're proud of, try to fix the things you aren't. Fuck. I needed to get that off my chest. This. I follow a lot of artists that have, since ME3 and Inquisition, been really dissatisfied with BioWare. Particularly, a great deal of their passion for the MEU disintegrated with the end of ME3. I'll quote one artist: "It’s just that none of the following games had the same atmosphere as the first that drew me in, and Andromeda looks to be following the same pattern. It went from retro-future intrigue to Call of Duty: Humanity Fuck Yeah Edition by the time 3 rolled around, and I really do not trust the current head writer to deliver a satisfying story after the garbage fire he turned the last game into. It’s definitely not something I’m going to pick up on day 1."
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 15, 2017 6:52:54 GMT
I wanted to check this thread out because I'm legitimately a bit worried about Andromeda, but this seems like kind of a circlejerk on the most mundane details. This entire page is dedicated to Sara being ugly, for example. I don't think she looks ugly. She doesn't look like a perfect Goddess, but she's quite cute. I don't think adjusting her nose and jaw and all that is necessary. The eyes look a little devoid of life, but that could very well just be the static model used for the character kits, and not be indicative of the final product. Like, seriously, I don't care about the graphics. Not everything has to look photorealistic to look good. The game has a bit of a stylized flair to it, and you're certainly not obligated to like it, but the fact that so many people are ranting about how it looks objectively bad is really quite frustrating. Personally, I'm more worried by the fact that the marketing has been so sparse. It's troubling to me that EA, of all people, won't advertise their own game, especially being one of their biggest IPs. I'm worried because Dragon Age II was meh, Mass Effect 3 was bad, Inquisition was boring, and the backlash from those three games has literally caused a divide between the developers and the fans so huge that the old BSN had to be torn down because of all the resentment between them, scattering everyone to Twitter, here, or just off of Bioware's radar entirely, to the point that I have no idea if Andromeda is going to feel like a Mass Effect game at all because of a simultaneous desire to stick with what made the IP what it is, and distance itself as much as possible from every other lame title Bioware has put out in the last decade or so.I'm worried that the Kett seem like the main villain from Halo 4 to a T. I'm worried that Mac, in an interview, said that he was okay with Andromeda being compared to Inquisition because "it got GOTY". I'm worried that that kind of arrogance and complete contempt for the obvious dissatisfaction from the fanbase will lead to products that are completely alienating to people like me who, after ME3, want desperately to give a single shred of a shit about this broken series, or rather, this broken company, that has essentially been on a downhill slope since partnering up with EA. I'm worried that, despite barely showing anything for the game, that EA has the fucking balls to try selling an almost $300 CE when the price of the game is included. Seriously, Bioware, I'm trying to care. You've made lackluster games for years now, ripped apart the community that made them what they are, and moved on to shadier and shadier practices since partnering up with EA, but I WANT to like Mass Effect. Give people some reason to care about your shitty games. I hate how some of the most important people in my life are people I met on your site, and I have to talk them into even watching a trailer for your new stuff because of how far you've sunk. It sucks. Do something that makes people care. Show off the things you're proud of, try to fix the things you aren't. Fuck. I needed to get that off my chest. I just had a similar, less vocal moment in the more public Twitter thread. (I wanted to bold a lot more, but iPad or this site isn't cooperating.) I'm not "one of those guys", just as you aren't, but the facts are the facts. The unease we're feeling is due to the last 7 years of declining quality and the nearly non-existent marketing for this supposedly AAA title. I've long suspected that we've barely seen anything of MEA because they fell way behind and have been playing catch-up for a very long time. This close to deadline, though? Still? I don't mind Sara's design, and her model is actually gorgeous (I'm seeing her for the first time above). The final result, though, looks like ass, to me. I understand why people are complaining. In-game, I suspect you're correct that she'll look a bit better. She's still the worst of all the character textures, though; the most plasticky and play-dohy of a very Barbie and Ken line-up. I don't think this game is ready. As I type this, Aaryn Flynn's announcement that gameplay will debut on March 17 is sinking in around Twitter-land. We will potentially, though not necessarily, need to rely upon EA Early Access and/or the MP Beta to get any real look at the gameplay before release. Sigh. I'm definitely frustrated and feeling my skepticism peaking.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 7:02:38 GMT
I wanted to check this thread out because I'm legitimately a bit worried about Andromeda, but this seems like kind of a circlejerk on the most mundane details. This entire page is dedicated to Sara being ugly, for example. I don't think she looks ugly. She doesn't look like a perfect Goddess, but she's quite cute. I don't think adjusting her nose and jaw and all that is necessary. The eyes look a little devoid of life, but that could very well just be the static model used for the character kits, and not be indicative of the final product. Like, seriously, I don't care about the graphics. Not everything has to look photorealistic to look good. The game has a bit of a stylized flair to it, and you're certainly not obligated to like it, but the fact that so many people are ranting about how it looks objectively bad is really quite frustrating. Personally, I'm more worried by the fact that the marketing has been so sparse. It's troubling to me that EA, of all people, won't advertise their own game, especially being one of their biggest IPs. I'm worried because Dragon Age II was meh, Mass Effect 3 was bad, Inquisition was boring, and the backlash from those three games has literally caused a divide between the developers and the fans so huge that the old BSN had to be torn down because of all the resentment between them, scattering everyone to Twitter, here, or just off of Bioware's radar entirely, to the point that I have no idea if Andromeda is going to feel like a Mass Effect game at all because of a simultaneous desire to stick with what made the IP what it is, and distance itself as much as possible from every other lame title Bioware has put out in the last decade or so.I'm worried that the Kett seem like the main villain from Halo 4 to a T. I'm worried that Mac, in an interview, said that he was okay with Andromeda being compared to Inquisition because "it got GOTY". I'm worried that that kind of arrogance and complete contempt for the obvious dissatisfaction from the fanbase will lead to products that are completely alienating to people like me who, after ME3, want desperately to give a single shred of a shit about this broken series, or rather, this broken company, that has essentially been on a downhill slope since partnering up with EA. I'm worried that, despite barely showing anything for the game, that EA has the fucking balls to try selling an almost $300 CE when the price of the game is included. Seriously, Bioware, I'm trying to care. You've made lackluster games for years now, ripped apart the community that made them what they are, and moved on to shadier and shadier practices since partnering up with EA, but I WANT to like Mass Effect. Give people some reason to care about your shitty games. I hate how some of the most important people in my life are people I met on your site, and I have to talk them into even watching a trailer for your new stuff because of how far you've sunk. It sucks. Do something that makes people care. Show off the things you're proud of, try to fix the things you aren't. Fuck. I needed to get that off my chest. I just had a similar, less vocal moment in the more public Twitter thread. (I wanted to bold a lot more, but iPad or this site isn't cooperating.) I'm not "one of those guys", just as you aren't, but the facts are the facts. The unease we're feeling is due to the last 7 years of declining quality and the nearly non-existent marketing for this supposedly AAA title. I've long suspected that we've barely seen anything of MEA because they fell way behind and have been playing catch-up for a very long time. This close to deadline, though? Still? I don't mind Sara's design, and her model is actually gorgeous (I'm seeing her for the first time above). The final result, though, looks like ass, to me. I understand why people are complaining. In-game, I suspect you're correct that she'll look a bit better. She's still the worst of all the character textures, though; the most plasticky and play-dohy of a very Barbie and Ken line-up. I don't think this game is ready. As I type this, Aaryn Flynn's announcement that gameplay will debut on March 17 is sinking in around Twitter-land. We will seemingly need to rely upon EA Early Access and/or the MP Beta to get any real look at the gameplay before release. Sigh. I'm definitely frustrated and feeling my skepticism peaking. I think the fact that Bioware said we could all move to Twitter when BSN shut down was one of the most insulting things they said. Trade our hundreds of pages with posts over 1000 words with legitimate discussions and real passion towards these games for Twitter's 140 character limit. Yeah, that's great Bioware, thanks. Anyway, my point in bringing that up was that I have avoided Bioware on Twitter, mostly out of annoyance that they would even suggest that as an alternative. Maybe they're just trying to do a huge info dump close to release, I don't know, but it's legitimately worrying that they're displaying so little confidence in Mass Effect, of all things. I hope it's just because ME3 left them feeling wary about the series, and Andromeda is actually quite good, but who knows how likely that is. The model is definitely very pretty, and I'd honestly say Sara in-game looks like a different person, but I don't agree that's a bad thing. She looks serviceable, to me. I wasn't expecting Metal Gear Solid V levels of facial capture to begin with. Bioware games have always been kinda ech looking, and to compensate for that, they've recently, with DAII and DA:I, been moving towards of a more comic book look. Less realistic, more colorful, kinda stylized. Textures are unimpressive, but that's fine. Origins looked like absolute garbage for its time, but it was a decent game. One of Bioware's better games, actually. It honestly just seems like one of the more petty arguments against the game and I wish it wasn't such a major focus on all the discussion boards lately. Admittedly, that viewpoint has me a bit impatient with that argument as a whole, so I'm probably being a tad unfair in my critique of the people complaining about it, but I just wish we could talk about something else. What's this about March 17th though? I thought we had a big reveal this week, and I was hoping a more steady trickling of info up to release.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 7:08:46 GMT
I wanted to check this thread out because I'm legitimately a bit worried about Andromeda, but this seems like kind of a circlejerk on the most mundane details. This entire page is dedicated to Sara being ugly, for example. I don't think she looks ugly. She doesn't look like a perfect Goddess, but she's quite cute. I don't think adjusting her nose and jaw and all that is necessary. The eyes look a little devoid of life, but that could very well just be the static model used for the character kits, and not be indicative of the final product.
Like, seriously, I don't care about the graphics. Not everything has to look photorealistic to look good. The game has a bit of a stylized flair to it, and you're certainly not obligated to like it, but the fact that so many people are ranting about how it looks objectively bad is really quite frustrating.
Personally, I'm more worried by the fact that the marketing has been so sparse. It's troubling to me that EA, of all people, won't advertise their own game, especially being one of their biggest IPs.
I'm worried because Dragon Age II was meh, Mass Effect 3 was bad, Inquisition was boring, and the backlash from those three games has literally caused a divide between the developers and the fans so huge that the old BSN had to be torn down because of all the resentment between them, scattering everyone to Twitter, here, or just off of Bioware's radar entirely, to the point that I have no idea if Andromeda is going to feel like a Mass Effect game at all because of a simultaneous desire to stick with what made the IP what it is, and distance itself as much as possible from every other lame title Bioware has put out in the last decade or so.
I'm worried that the Kett seem like the main villain from Halo 4 to a T. I'm worried that Mac, in an interview, said that he was okay with Andromeda being compared to Inquisition because "it got GOTY". I'm worried that that kind of arrogance and complete contempt for the obvious dissatisfaction from the fanbase will lead to products that are completely alienating to people like me who, after ME3, want desperately to give a single shred of a shit about this broken series, or rather, this broken company, that has essentially been on a downhill slope since partnering up with EA.
I'm worried that, despite barely showing anything for the game, that EA has the fucking balls to try selling an almost $300 CE when the price of the game is included. Seriously, Bioware, I'm trying to care. You've made lackluster games for years now, ripped apart the community that made them what they are, and moved on to shadier and shadier practices since partnering up with EA, but I WANT to like Mass Effect. Give people some reason to care about your shitty games. I hate how some of the most important people in my life are people I met on your site, and I have to talk them into even watching a trailer for your new stuff because of how far you've sunk. It sucks. Do something that makes people care. Show off the things you're proud of, try to fix the things you aren't. Fuck. I needed to get that off my chest. This. I follow a lot of artists that have, since ME3 and Inquisition, been really dissatisfied with BioWare. Particularly, a great deal of their passion for the MEU disintegrated with the end of ME3. I'll quote one artist: "It’s just that none of the following games had the same atmosphere as the first that drew me in, and Andromeda looks to be following the same pattern. It went from retro-future intrigue to Call of Duty: Humanity Fuck Yeah Edition by the time 3 rolled around, and I really do not trust the current head writer to deliver a satisfying story after the garbage fire he turned the last game into. It’s definitely not something I’m going to pick up on day 1."
I was actually trying so hard to be positive after ME3 that I ended up going in the opposite direction. I was negatively defending a game I didn't really like just because I wanted everyone to stop fighting over it, lol. I was a lot younger then, though, so at least I feel like I've gotten a bit smarter. It still really sucks that one of the best series I ever played became one of the most controversial in gaming, and no matter how good or bad Andromeda is, half of the people I used to get excited about ME with aren't coming back. They just don't trust Bioware anymore. Not just because of the endings, but because of their reactions to them. Bioware is just as childish as the fanbase is when it comes to taking criticism towards their games. That being said, I think ME:A shows some promise, but it isn't showing enough. Hell, it's not even showing a lack of promise. It's not showing anything. It's bothering the hell out of me. I don't expect the writing to be the best, but I'm hoping, at the very least, it feels sincere, and not just like they ran out of time and EA forced a bunch of bullshit onto them. Granted, Bioware still takes some responsibility for the shitty stories lately, but there's probably a reason they got worse once EA was involved, is all I'm saying.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 15, 2017 7:13:47 GMT
I think the fact that Bioware said we could all move to Twitter when BSN shut down was one of the most insulting things they said. Trade our hundreds of pages with posts over 1000 words with legitimate discussions and real passion towards these games for Twitter's 140 character limit. Yeah, that's great Bioware, thanks. Anyway, my point in bringing that up was that I have avoided Bioware on Twitter, mostly out of annoyance that they would even suggest that as an alternative. Maybe they're just trying to do a huge info dump close to release, I don't know, but it's legitimately worrying that they're displaying so little confidence in Mass Effect, of all things. I hope it's just because ME3 left them feeling wary about the series, and Andromeda is actually quite good, but who knows how likely that is. The model is definitely very pretty, and I'd honestly say Sara in-game looks like a different person, but I don't agree that's a bad thing. She looks serviceable, to me. I wasn't expecting Metal Gear Solid V levels of facial capture to begin with. Bioware games have always been kinda ech looking, and to compensate for that, they've recently, with DAII and DA:I, been moving towards of a more comic book look. Less realistic, more colorful, kinda stylized. Textures are unimpressive, but that's fine. Origins looked like absolute garbage for its time, but it was a decent game. One of Bioware's better games, actually. It honestly just seems like one of the more petty arguments against the game and I wish it wasn't such a major focus on all the discussion boards lately. Admittedly, that viewpoint has me a bit impatient with that argument as a whole, so I'm probably being a tad unfair in my critique of the people complaining about it, but I just wish we could talk about something else. What's this about March 17th though? I thought we had a big reveal this week, and I was hoping a more steady trickling of info up to release. We may yet get more info this week, but Flynn announced a big Live Gameplay Event on March 17. Tickets go on sale 2/15/17. That had better not be their idea of a "big week". They're presently meeting with press on the West Coast, and supposedly the "hands-on" embargo lifts, soon. Hopefully, we too will get to start seeing things this week.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 7:16:07 GMT
I think the fact that Bioware said we could all move to Twitter when BSN shut down was one of the most insulting things they said. Trade our hundreds of pages with posts over 1000 words with legitimate discussions and real passion towards these games for Twitter's 140 character limit. Yeah, that's great Bioware, thanks. Anyway, my point in bringing that up was that I have avoided Bioware on Twitter, mostly out of annoyance that they would even suggest that as an alternative. Maybe they're just trying to do a huge info dump close to release, I don't know, but it's legitimately worrying that they're displaying so little confidence in Mass Effect, of all things. I hope it's just because ME3 left them feeling wary about the series, and Andromeda is actually quite good, but who knows how likely that is. The model is definitely very pretty, and I'd honestly say Sara in-game looks like a different person, but I don't agree that's a bad thing. She looks serviceable, to me. I wasn't expecting Metal Gear Solid V levels of facial capture to begin with. Bioware games have always been kinda ech looking, and to compensate for that, they've recently, with DAII and DA:I, been moving towards of a more comic book look. Less realistic, more colorful, kinda stylized. Textures are unimpressive, but that's fine. Origins looked like absolute garbage for its time, but it was a decent game. One of Bioware's better games, actually. It honestly just seems like one of the more petty arguments against the game and I wish it wasn't such a major focus on all the discussion boards lately. Admittedly, that viewpoint has me a bit impatient with that argument as a whole, so I'm probably being a tad unfair in my critique of the people complaining about it, but I just wish we could talk about something else. What's this about March 17th though? I thought we had a big reveal this week, and I was hoping a more steady trickling of info up to release. We may yet get more info this week, but Flynn announced a big Live Gameplay Event on March 17. Tickets go on sale 2/15/17. That had better not be their idea of a "big week". They're presently meeting with press on the West Coast, and supposedly the "hands-on" embargo lifts, soon. Hopefully, we too will get to start seeing things this week. I'm crossing my fingers, anyway. Like I said, I would love to be excited, but it's really hard right now, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 7:18:19 GMT
On a slightly related note, does that hands-on embargo thing have anything to do with reviews? More companies have been getting really sleazy with review copies lately. DooM ended up actually being good, thank God, but other, less reputable companies than Bethesda/Id may take that example as an excuse to stop letting the public know about their game before they spend their money.
And with the lack of marketing, I've been worried something like that might happen.
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Post by dis_Op2399 on Feb 15, 2017 8:13:50 GMT
As someone who holds ME3 as something close to perfection in gaming, my biggest worry is that they roll back from all the complaints to something resembling Mass Effect: the high school years. I guess Bioware has always been cringey with its dating sim stuff (and resulting Team America sex scenes) but at least it was good for a laugh. Looking at potato face Sara and that dire disarm animation there really is something uncanny about it, almost to the point of nausea. I guess that's what happens when you have highly realistic models and textures but not the animation quality to back it up.
As long as the combat and multi-player are good then I can forgive the story and characters. I imagine it'll likely be another DA:I tier experience. Just as long as it's not DA2 level... God no please no..
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^^^Going with everything that has been said above, It doesn't make sense for them to not have a team specifically hired to manage a forum and social media. Their primary job should be to scan through all of the posts daily, take notes, analyze, and provide a daily and weekly reports based on feedback and conversations. That feedback is then filtered appropriately to the individual teams so they can efficiently analyze and apply any feedback if deemed necessary. Maybe they already had this and the ROI wasn't great enough. Either way, props to the Mods of this forum.
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Post by vonuber on Feb 15, 2017 8:41:48 GMT
As someone who holds ME3 as something close to perfection in gaming Wat
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 15, 2017 8:50:27 GMT
I wanted to check this thread out because I'm legitimately a bit worried about Andromeda, but this seems like kind of a circlejerk on the most mundane details. This entire page is dedicated to Sara being ugly, for example. I don't think she looks ugly. She doesn't look like a perfect Goddess, but she's quite cute. I don't think adjusting her nose and jaw and all that is necessary. The eyes look a little devoid of life, but that could very well just be the static model used for the character kits, and not be indicative of the final product. Like, seriously, I don't care about the graphics. Not everything has to look photorealistic to look good. The game has a bit of a stylized flair to it, and you're certainly not obligated to like it, but the fact that so many people are ranting about how it looks objectively bad is really quite frustrating. Personally, I'm more worried by the fact that the marketing has been so sparse. It's troubling to me that EA, of all people, won't advertise their own game, especially being one of their biggest IPs. I'm worried because Dragon Age II was meh, Mass Effect 3 was bad, Inquisition was boring, and the backlash from those three games has literally caused a divide between the developers and the fans so huge that the old BSN had to be torn down because of all the resentment between them, scattering everyone to Twitter, here, or just off of Bioware's radar entirely, to the point that I have no idea if Andromeda is going to feel like a Mass Effect game at all because of a simultaneous desire to stick with what made the IP what it is, and distance itself as much as possible from every other lame title Bioware has put out in the last decade or so. I'm worried that the Kett seem like the main villain from Halo 4 to a T. I'm worried that Mac, in an interview, said that he was okay with Andromeda being compared to Inquisition because "it got GOTY". I'm worried that that kind of arrogance and complete contempt for the obvious dissatisfaction from the fanbase will lead to products that are completely alienating to people like me who, after ME3, want desperately to give a single shred of a shit about this broken series, or rather, this broken company, that has essentially been on a downhill slope since partnering up with EA. I'm worried that, despite barely showing anything for the game, that EA has the fucking balls to try selling an almost $300 CE when the price of the game is included. Seriously, Bioware, I'm trying to care. You've made lackluster games for years now, ripped apart the community that made them what they are, and moved on to shadier and shadier practices since partnering up with EA, but I WANT to like Mass Effect. Give people some reason to care about your shitty games. I hate how some of the most important people in my life are people I met on your site, and I have to talk them into even watching a trailer for your new stuff because of how far you've sunk. It sucks. Do something that makes people care. Show off the things you're proud of, try to fix the things you aren't. Fuck. I needed to get that off my chest. And this is why devs like Bethesda and CDPR are kicking their asses.
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Post by dis_Op2399 on Feb 15, 2017 8:53:14 GMT
As someone who holds ME3 as something close to perfection in gaming Wat It's an opinion. You can disagree, sure, but that's about it.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 15, 2017 8:54:25 GMT
Less than 3 months to go and we get minor blips of poorly edited gameplay trailers that are less than 2 minutes long. Tonight's Nvidia GeForce gameplay was more insulting than the vga trailer. Is it too much to ask for a proper gameplay reveal? Before Doom released we had multiple gameplay videos 10-20 minutes long showcasing the game months beforehand for a 15hr game. Is Bioware not confident with their product? It's the DAI marketing campaign all over again and I'd expect we get shitty twitch streams of the game nearing launch but come on. Side note: game isn't really wowing me on the graphics department like Witcher 3. Nothing BioWare ever does ever will wow you like Witcher 3 did. Just accept it. Well that's because BioWare is sucking right now. Unfortunate.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 15, 2017 8:57:38 GMT
Nothing BioWare ever does ever will wow you like Witcher 3 did. Just accept it. Well that's because BioWare is sucking right now. Unfortunate. As a matter of personal taste I prefer recent BioWare titles to the Witcher 3.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 15, 2017 9:02:06 GMT
Well that's because BioWare is sucking right now. Unfortunate. As a matter of personal taste I prefer recent BioWare titles to the Witcher 3. BioWare might as well just stop making games and just write books, comics, and movies because they haven't put forth an effort to make their games better and lacking competitive edge to @ least kick Skyrim and Witcher ass. But it seems it would never happen.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 15, 2017 9:04:46 GMT
Well, Fallout wasn't as nearly as well received as Skyrim, and CDPR kicked their ass hard on the open world part, so yeah, I wouldn't put the two in the same spot. Despite my opinions on the game, Inquisition was better received then DA2, regardless of the advantages of the year (which is more due of the fact that we're in the era where most of games get delayed, several times).
The concern on Andromeda might be right, but I wouldn't necessarily put the faces situations in the same spot. Animations aside (which I'll judge when they'll show them more), Bioware isn't the best in the department, and I see someone comparing it to games who are shorter and focused on different things then MEA. Even TW3 isn't on the Same level of the top games in terms of facial animation and rendering, and they don't have to deal with CC and genders for the PC. And in any case, if someone was expecting Bioware to beat them in this, they are delusional. Although I don't see the same criticisms for Fallout 4, and given most of the AAA rpgs are going open world, Bethesda has to start to be accounted on this remark.
In any case, the solution is simple: wait for reviews. Nobody forces us to buy the game on release. There are ways to known if MEA is a good/great game without spending money beforehand. On the live gameplay, it's simply a different thing. Putting aside that nobody at Bioware confirmed this week to Be 'big', insiders said they should start to release videos on gameplay features this week.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 15, 2017 9:07:36 GMT
Nothing BioWare ever does ever will wow you like Witcher 3 did. Just accept it. Well that's because BioWare is sucking right now. Unfortunate. As a matter of personal taste I prefer recent BioWare titles to the Witcher 3. BioWare might as well just stop making games and just write books, comics, and movies because they haven't put forth an effort to make their games better and lacking competitive edge to @ least kick Skyrim and Witcher ass. But it seems it would never happen. Skyrim can't hold a candle to TW3. The former's fortune is more due to the toolset and modding community then being necessarily better then the rest of the pack. Not to mention it's laughable Bioware get criticism for how glitchy their games are when Bethesda is king in this field. Bioware doesn't have to beat CDPR and TW3 to make good/great games. MEA can be a great game without reaching Tw3's level.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 15, 2017 9:13:50 GMT
Well that's because BioWare is sucking right now. Unfortunate. BioWare might as well just stop making games and just write books, comics, and movies because they haven't put forth an effort to make their games better and lacking competitive edge to @ least kick Skyrim and Witcher ass. But it seems it would never happen. Skyrim can't hold a candle to TW3. The former's fortune is more due to the toolset and modding community then being necessarily better then the rest of the pack. Not to mention it's laughable Bioware get criticism for how glitchy their games are when Bethesda is king in this field. Bioware doesn't have to beat CDPR and TW3 to make good/great games. MEA can be a great game without reaching Tw3's level. Really?? Witcher destroyed Inquisition!! But we'll see if they deserve another chance.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 15, 2017 9:17:12 GMT
Skyrim can't hold a candle to TW3. The former's fortune is more due to the toolset and modding community then being necessarily better then the rest of the pack. Not to mention it's laughable Bioware get criticism for how glitchy their games are when Bethesda is king in this field. Bioware doesn't have to beat CDPR and TW3 to make good/great games. MEA can be a great game without reaching Tw3's level. Really?? Witcher destroyed Inquisition!! But we'll see if they deserve another chance.
Did you read what I wrote? I said MEA doesn't have to reach TW3's LEVEL to be good. It means it might be a good or great game even if 'inferior' to TW3. Nothing in my post implied the opposite. I think TW3 is better then DAI, but I think the latter is still a good game. A game doesn't have to be as good as TW3 to be considered good or great.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 15, 2017 9:20:20 GMT
Really?? Witcher destroyed Inquisition!! But we'll see if they deserve another chance.
Did you read what I wrote? I said MEA doesn't have to reach TW3's LEVEL to be good. It means it might be a good or great game even if 'inferior' to TW3. Nothing in my post implied the opposite. I think TW3 is better then DAI, but I think the latter is still a good game. A game doesn't have to be as good as TW3 to be considered good or great.The hell it is.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 15, 2017 9:22:19 GMT
Did you read what I wrote? I said MEA doesn't have to reach TW3's LEVEL to be good. It means it might be a good or great game even if 'inferior' to TW3. Nothing in my post implied the opposite. I think TW3 is better then DAI, but I think the latter is still a good game. A game doesn't have to be as good as TW3 to be considered good or great.The hell it is. So you think that if a game isn't a good as TW3, it automatically sucks?
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