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Post by Iakus on Feb 21, 2017 19:27:21 GMT
Grunt's mission too, I think.On the lesser side, the Tuchanka turian SQs and maybe Admiral Koris (though rescuing him is so obvious after the conversation with Xen that I hardly think it counts as a choice.) And of course, ME3 had wordcount issues. It had the biggest count of any game in the series by a substantial margin, but it also had the highest level of mandatory expenditures. I don't think I can come up with a better allocation of the existing resources than Bio did. Some actual planning ahead might have helped
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Post by Iakus on Feb 21, 2017 19:27:37 GMT
It must suck to remain in a permanent state of pessimism. I am so glad I'm not like that. A pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist.
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Post by fiannawolf on Feb 21, 2017 19:35:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 19:49:39 GMT
You may want to rethink whether or not you belong in a fan forum when you need a derogatory term for people who don't think the games/developer are horrible like you do. Oh I just love these asinine comments. You're essentially implying that real fans are biodrones that suck Bioware off no matter what they do, especially if they are doing things that are objectively shit. Great thought process. Biodrones never learn. I'm not going to backread the thread since I've been busy all weekend, so I don't particularly care to know how the rest of this conversation went, but I think it would be fair to point out the fact that you think literally everyone is a "biodrone". That word means nothing. Most of your posts seem to mean nothing. I feel compelled to thank you for the existence of this thread, as a skeptic towards Andromeda, but I can't help but notice that everyone else here seems infinitely more productive in terms of legitimate skepticism and discussion than you. Did you have lots of great points on the first few pages, or what? Every time I see you it's "Biodrone" something. It blows my mind how you can say so much, and have so little to say.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 21, 2017 20:02:20 GMT
It must suck to remain in a permanent state of pessimism. I am so glad I'm not like that. A pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist. Well if you want to get philosophical, what makes your perception of reality any more valid than my own? An optimist is what a pessimist calls a realist.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 21, 2017 20:06:24 GMT
A pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist. Well if you want to get philosophical, what makes your perception of reality any more valid than my own? "Every point of view is useful, even those that are wrong- if we can judge why a wrong view was accepted"
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Post by hammerstorm on Feb 21, 2017 20:08:41 GMT
A pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist. Well if you want to get philosophical, what makes your perception of reality any more valid than my own? An optimist is what a pessimist calls a realist. Eh, people should be like me! An optimistic cynic. Makes life more entertaining. Or, wait. That's no good, I stand corrected. Everybody should be themselves , otherwise I wouldn't have anybody to entertain me.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 21, 2017 20:26:39 GMT
Oh I just love these asinine comments. You're essentially implying that real fans are biodrones that suck Bioware off no matter what they do, especially if they are doing things that are objectively shit. Great thought process. Biodrones never learn. Oh, so the real fans are the people like you who are here to insult people who actually like BioWare games. Thanks for educating me on that. Not an argument. This thread is dedicated to the skepticism people have for MEA and Bioware in general. So this begs the question, why are you here?
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 21, 2017 20:28:54 GMT
Well if you want to get philosophical, what makes your perception of reality any more valid than my own? "Every point of view is useful, even those that are wrong- if we can judge why a wrong view was accepted" Well I haven't commented about the validity of the skepticism. I just feel sorry for people who are so adamant to live their lives in salt.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 21, 2017 20:28:57 GMT
It must suck to remain in a permanent state of pessimism. I am so glad I'm not like that. You must be easily entertainined by Bioware games then. People like me usually want something of more substance hence the pessimism and skepticism of Bioware's upcoming titles.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 21, 2017 20:31:12 GMT
It must suck to remain in a permanent state of pessimism. I am so glad I'm not like that. You must be easily entertainined by Bioware games then. People like me usually want something of more substance hence the pessimism and skepticism of Bioware's upcoming titles. How dare I be entertained by entertainment!?
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Post by Iakus on Feb 21, 2017 20:32:34 GMT
You must be easily entertainined by Bioware games then. People like me usually want something of more substance hence the pessimism and skepticism of Bioware's upcoming titles. How dare I be entertained by entertainment!? Hey, some people think dog fights are entertainment. Who am I to judge?
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 21, 2017 20:32:39 GMT
Oh I just love these asinine comments. You're essentially implying that real fans are biodrones that suck Bioware off no matter what they do, especially if they are doing things that are objectively shit. Great thought process. Biodrones never learn. I'm not going to backread the thread since I've been busy all weekend, so I don't particularly care to know how the rest of this conversation went, but I think it would be fair to point out the fact that you think literally everyone is a "biodrone". That word means nothing. Most of your posts seem to mean nothing. I feel compelled to thank you for the existence of this thread, as a skeptic towards Andromeda, but I can't help but notice that everyone else here seems infinitely more productive in terms of legitimate skepticism and discussion than you. Did you have lots of great points on the first few pages, or what? Every time I see you it's "Biodrone" something. It blows my mind how you can say so much, and have so little to say. I've stated throughout this thread and other threads my concern about MEA and Bioware's recent failure DAI. If seeing a word like "biodrone" easily triggers you from reading the rest of my post/posts than nothing more can be said simpleton. Btw, I've hardly ever used the word biodrone when considering my post history. Typical biodrone.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 21, 2017 20:33:44 GMT
"Every point of view is useful, even those that are wrong- if we can judge why a wrong view was accepted" Well I haven't commented about the validity of the skepticism. I just feel sorry for people who are so adamant to live their lives in salt. Seeing a formerly great company sink into mediocrity gets me salty. Besides, I've got a week until Torment releases
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 21, 2017 20:34:20 GMT
How dare I be entertained by entertainment!? Hey, some people think dog fights are entertainment. Who am I to judge? *shrug* If you want to call MEA a dogfight then go ahead lel
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Post by Iakus on Feb 21, 2017 20:35:14 GMT
Hey, some people think dog fights are entertainment. Who am I to judge? *shrug* If you want to call MEA a dogfight then go ahead lel A dog fight Twilight Pauley Shore Lots of things are out there people think is entertaining, but I find to be the exact opposite.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 21, 2017 20:35:58 GMT
You must be easily entertainined by Bioware games then. People like me usually want something of more substance hence the pessimism and skepticism of Bioware's upcoming titles. How dare I be entertained by entertainment!? If you're easily entertained by recent Bioware games than be my guest.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 21, 2017 20:37:19 GMT
How dare I be entertained by entertainment!? If you're easily entertained by recent Bioware games than be my guest. They're great games overall. There are many issues but they don't detract from the overall experience. If you believe otherwise your'e either anal or a masochist for still being here.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 21, 2017 20:38:42 GMT
Like saving the SM for the finale? Hell, yeah. I'm just saying that the ME3 team handled the hole that the previous games had dug for them about as well as they could have.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 21, 2017 20:38:46 GMT
If you're easily entertained by recent Bioware games than be my guest. They're great games overall. There are many issues but they don't detract from the overall experience. If you believe otherwise your'e either anal or a masochist for still being here. >great games overall You forgot "in my opinion".
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 21, 2017 20:43:39 GMT
They're great games overall. There are many issues but they don't detract from the overall experience. If you believe otherwise your'e either anal or a masochist for still being here. >great games overall You forgot "in my opinion". Funny considering you're the one speaking in absolutes. It may be an opinion but it's one many share considering the popularity of BioWare games despite their relatively niche market
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Post by vonuber on Feb 21, 2017 21:40:59 GMT
I'm only a simple soul, can someone please explain to me what the politics and overt message Bioware was trying to say in DA:I was? I just hit things with a big sword whilst having a soft spot for Sera (mainly because her accent is not to far away from where I grew up). I'm assuming it is 'look at all the GAYS!!! Why are they in my game' but then I don't really give a flying toss about people's sexuality in the main, because I'm an adult. And Dorian was amazing. Man I'd be gay for him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 23:07:20 GMT
I'm not going to backread the thread since I've been busy all weekend, so I don't particularly care to know how the rest of this conversation went, but I think it would be fair to point out the fact that you think literally everyone is a "biodrone". That word means nothing. Most of your posts seem to mean nothing. I feel compelled to thank you for the existence of this thread, as a skeptic towards Andromeda, but I can't help but notice that everyone else here seems infinitely more productive in terms of legitimate skepticism and discussion than you. Did you have lots of great points on the first few pages, or what? Every time I see you it's "Biodrone" something. It blows my mind how you can say so much, and have so little to say. I've stated throughout this thread and other threads my concern about MEA and Bioware's recent failure DAI. If seeing a word like "biodrone" easily triggers you from reading the rest of my post/posts than nothing more can be said simpleton. Btw, I've hardly ever used the word biodrone when considering my post history. Typical biodrone. My God, you're like a caricature.
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Post by vanguarddoken on Feb 21, 2017 23:23:59 GMT
I'm only a simple soul, can someone please explain to me what the politics and overt message Bioware was trying to say in DA:I was? Well, there's a conversation with a transgender character and one character quest concerns their homosexuality. So the "overt message" consists of roughly five minutes of completely optional dialogue in a 50-plus-hour game. Goddamn them SJWs, always shoving their agenda down our throats, huh. /s
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 1:06:39 GMT
I'm only a simple soul, can someone please explain to me what the politics and overt message Bioware was trying to say in DA:I was? Well, there's a conversation with a transgender character and one character quest concerns their homosexuality. So the "overt message" consists of roughly five minutes of completely optional dialogue in a 50-plus-hour game. Goddamn them SJWs, always shoving their agenda down our throats, huh. /sAs annoying as social justice typically gets, it was handled pretty respectfully in Inquisition. Most everyone got a bit of representation and it wasn't super shallow or anything. It actually really annoyed me when Liam was revealed and there was a bunch of talk of some political agenda. I mean, I haven't played Andromeda yet, maybe Liam is a shallow character with a hamfisted political message tied to him, but until we know that for sure, it really bums me out to see people getting so defensive as to calling the inclusion of a black character "SJW pandering".
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