Mass Effect Andromeda Skepticism thread

If you don't understand why a black man and a woman with short hair didn't offend anyone in ME2, just remember: This was before a bunch of people didn't get exactly what they wanted in ME3 and devoted their lives to spouting bullshit about BioWare and making the fandom hell for actual fans.

Most people wanted a Mass Effect ending, and they got that.

What ending-bashers have told me in every complaint about the endings you have (well, the stuff that isn't an obvious lie being spouted in the faces of people who know what garbage it is) and every "the ending would be better if..." post is that you wanted an ending where you didn't have any sort of difficult, morally-ambiguous decision to make where the game doesn't have one "right" choice for you to feel proud of yourself for making.

No - the ending would have been better without the Deus Ex Machina - that's it.

Sheperd activates the console and instead of the Starbrat coming down something happens depending on what you did throughout the trilogy. It could even be the exact same outcomes.

• Made peace between the Geth and Quarians? Sided with the engineer over Chakwas in the conversation in the mess bay? - Synthesis
• Destroyed the Collector base? Sided with the Quarians over the Geth? Chose Tali over Legion on the suicide mission and had her survive? Destroyed the Heretics? etc. - Destroy; with a high enough EMS get the Sheperd "twitch" ending.
• Allowed the Illusive Man to have the Collector base at the end of ME2? Sided with the Geth over the Quarians? - Control.

There are probably a bazillion permutations that could be considered to have the game select the ending which best fitted how you actually played the trilogy. That would have been far better than, "Oh HAI, I R Teh Rippaz - think you can do better? Be my guest" ... which is basically all you get unless you shoot the little twerp.

I didn't hate the endings - I hated the way they were offered up and I hated the Starbrat - it essentially nullified all your previous choices.


I don't see Bioware even attempting something like that with ME:A or any future title though.

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on that. There was no reason for the Catalyst to have been an anthropomorphic representation of the Reaper consciousness in the body of the kid you see in the air vents (the Starbrat). There was no reason for a Reaper consciousness to be the Catalyst at all - or for it to talk to you - the game takes great pains to tell you that nobody knows what it'll do throughout. They could have done anything - but no. Throw in a lazy plot device that says "well done, pick your ending - now you can reload and watch the the other 2 if you like". Very few of your previous choices actually matter at that point - pick a colour and check your EMS.

It's rubbish.



> the activation of an ancient device doesn't correspond with the entirely-irrelevant other things you've done. The function of the Crucible isn't magically based on whether or not you agreed with someone at some point in the series.

... but it could have been - and it would have been better. It wouldn't have to tell you that's what's happened it would be a game mechanic behind the scenes.

You couldn't be more wrong about the "I DIDN'T GET AN OPTION..." crap as well - it was a shit mechanic at the end of Deus Ex: HR and it was a shit mechanic at the end of ME3.

I prefer 'Casper the Friendly Catalyst', is that OK?

So you are telling me that picking between the colours red, blue and green constitute a difficult, morally ambiguous decision? God what an exciting life you must lead.

Shame goes for you biodrone. I could write an essay on why the ending was unsatisfying due to the negation of options, poor reactivity, awful gameplay, lack of closure absolute deus ex machina etc etc but tbh I've got more important things to attend to today.

MAKE MASS EFFECT GREAT AGAIN!!!

Hear hear, i was just annoyed by the absurdity of having to deal with dorian's personal issue whilst there are you know...demons falling from the sky.

What is Interesting to me is that no one really cared that Sera was gay, it was her personality that made people go up in flames. If you are a guy and flirt with Sera she will politely refuse you and thats it. Dorian however it is all about him being gay, because it was somehow "forced" on you.

Granted him putting you on the spot to provoke a reaction out of his father was a bit out of the blue, but you are allowed to react to it. It was a nice touch and a good scene. It is more about him not wanting the mantle of his father, because then he can't be who he wants, then it is him getting in the nudes with dudes. All in all both companions was handled fine.

My issue is Krem, not that she is a he, but the way its handled. I honestly didn't notice anything about Krem until the Chargers scene, where it is told to me through the dialogue tree, and its atricious. Its bad writing, and pandering. Krem could've been more than a political statement if it was handled a bit differently. Of course there are going to be transexuals and homosexuals in a world inhabitated by hummanoids, it is after all natural, but handle it like you would any other character. Khem's character was suddenly all about that, it feels weird.

Linking and image to the conversation with the Chargers, look at it and tell me how this is good writing and that Bioware handled this situation well.

That it's a completely optional topic to talk to Krem about is completely ignored by people who want to say that it's forced down your throat.

You have to applaud people who make the conscious choice to initiate dialogue in a game related to a topic and then claim the game is shoving that topic down their throat.