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Post by Rico01 on Mar 11, 2017 18:39:50 GMT
And we know that they are using it without permission how? Why use it at all? Why not create their own assets? It's just lazy and unprofessional. Because it was great art? Because they want to promote a fan who made good art from their game? Again, do we actually know if they are using it without permission or not? And what do you think the artist feel?
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 11, 2017 18:43:40 GMT
It's fucking lazy to use fanmade stuff when they literally should be able to go into their own archives, load up ME3 in UE3, take Liara's model, put another clothing skin on her, pose her and make a better shot. Taking something off Deviantart just reeks of unprofessionalism IMO. It's another sign that BioWare is just slouching through making this game and not giving it a 110%. Create magic for us, don't just make it passable.
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Post by applepiesvk on Mar 11, 2017 18:45:15 GMT
Why use it at all? Why not create their own assets? It's just lazy and unprofessional. Because it was great art? Because they want to promote a fan who made good art from their game? Again, do we actually know if they are using it without permission or not? And what do you think the artist feel? Well, there is something wrong in the state of Denmark, if your own art deparment that is supposed to be "living" from art, can´t come with own idea and has to result to using someone´s else art...
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Post by slimgrin on Mar 11, 2017 18:45:45 GMT
Why use it at all? Why not create their own assets? It's just lazy and unprofessional. Because it was great art? Because they want to promote a fan who made good art from their game? Again, do we actually know if they are using it without permission or not? And what do you think the artist feel? Eh, I doubt they worked with the person. But now they have to credit the artist anyway. It's just a detail, but I'm surprised they're still doing this when other devs simply take the time to create their own art.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 11, 2017 18:47:26 GMT
Oh yey another 'controversy' for everyone to get their blood pressure up over.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 11, 2017 18:50:51 GMT
I read on the twitter thread that the fanart was taken from a shot of Liara in the citadel dlc. I haven't played it, so I don't know, can someone answer to it?
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Post by Rico01 on Mar 11, 2017 18:51:10 GMT
Edit: The nerve of Bioware to use their own creation that another used by using your creation! Yes, Bioware need to DIE! They should be put in court for crimes against humanity and laziness.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Mar 11, 2017 18:57:41 GMT
I read on the twitter thread that the fanart was taken from a shot of Liara in the citadel dlc. I haven't played it, so I don't know, can someone answer to it? Looks like Liara in her casino dress. So it's very possible the shot was taken from there in both cases. I dunno, I -cough- usually take Wrex or Garrus to the casino.
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Post by Rico01 on Mar 11, 2017 19:02:43 GMT
Well, if it's true that the pic is from the Citadel DLC the outrage should be towards the user who used a pic from the game, no? I mean, it must be equally lazy by that artist...
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 11, 2017 19:03:49 GMT
Well, if it's true that the pic is from the Citadel DLC the outrage should be towards the user who used a pic from the game, no? I mean, it must be equally lazy by that artist... Define "Artist". You're talking about a Deviantart user.
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Post by Rico01 on Mar 11, 2017 19:05:22 GMT
Well, if it's true that the pic is from the Citadel DLC the outrage should be towards the user who used a pic from the game, no? I mean, it must be equally lazy by that artist... Define "Artist". You're talking about a Deviantart user. No no no, you're not getting out of this one. Answer the question instead. Hopefully, this might teach some people to not jump to conclusions without the facts.
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Post by simsimillia on Mar 11, 2017 19:38:52 GMT
Apparently the deviant art user rendered the picture himself in Blender. me4fan.deviantart.com/art/Liara-455852248The question remains wether Bioware contacted him about using the art. Another question is if they would even need to ask him as it's their own intellectual property, especially if he didn't render the 3d-model himself and instead just exported it from the game.
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Post by hivemind on Mar 11, 2017 19:38:58 GMT
Define "Artist". You're talking about a Deviantart user. No no no, you're not getting out of this one. Answer the question instead. Hopefully, this might teach some people to not jump to conclusions without the facts. Whole controversy started with the pic above. The only fault of this thread inhabitants is that they jumped to it without verification. For which i can't blame them, bioware did simmilar thing in the past and it certantly doesn't look out of bioware's current style of delieviring things. Since the source of this pic is reddit you should ask this question there.
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Post by Rico01 on Mar 11, 2017 19:47:58 GMT
No, the source is Devianart.
And yes, the fact remains, they jumped to conclusions without knowing the truth. Hell, I still don't know the truth here, which is why I am reserving judgement. I will however, not jump onto the whine wagon without cause or some critical thinking.
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Post by goishen on Mar 11, 2017 19:57:09 GMT
What was the line taken from SWs? "Everything's fine here. How're you?" Han Solo in the prison scene rescuing Leia.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 11, 2017 19:58:24 GMT
What was the line taken from SWs? "Everything's fine here. How're you?" Han Solo in the prison scene rescuing Leia. that's perfect.
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Post by goishen on Mar 11, 2017 20:00:48 GMT
"Everything's fine here. How're you?" Han Solo in the prison scene rescuing Leia. that's perfect. He said something else here. Something like, "Small weapons malfunction."
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 11, 2017 20:05:39 GMT
The controversy, regardless of the picture starts when you say "BioWare took an imagine from Deviantart".
If it turns out the image from Deviantart is simply reposting an already still image from the game then I agree, it's not the same "controversy" although it still is lame they have to go to a free hosting website with images of their own game to make assets. If the argument is that the Deviantartist took the image from Citadel DLC and edited it and now BioWare takes it into Andromeda, then the "controversy" stands because that is BioWare, professionals who are paid to do a job, taking resources from an image site with art and edits made by unpaid fans. Either way I don't care about who is paid, I just think it's extremely unprofessional if it turns out BioWare let a fan make a photoshop or an image using their assets for them instead of simply making the image themselves. It's just going to be a little thumbnail in a menu. How hard could this be?
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Post by armass81 on Mar 11, 2017 20:07:22 GMT
The controversy, regardless of the picture starts when you say "BioWare took an imagine from Deviantart". If it turns out the image from Deviantart is simply reposting an already still image from the game then I agree, there is no "controversy" but if the argument is that the Deviantartist took the image from Citadel DLC and edited it and now BioWare takes it into Andromeda, then the "controversy" stands because that is BioWare, professionals who are paid to do a job, taking resources from an image site with art and edits made by unpaid fans. Either way I don't care about who is paid, I just think it's extremely unprofessional if it turns out BioWare let a fan make a photoshop or an image using their assets for them instead of simply making the image themselves. It's just going to be a little thumbnail in a menu. How hard could this be? As hard as making an original face for Tali? Or an original design for quarians?
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 11, 2017 20:08:29 GMT
Not even. This is just images to be used for reference, not a reveal or "memento" or whatever. They can simply play ME1 and press "print screen" during a cutscene, then add a vignette filter and call it a day. Don't need Deviantart to do that.
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Post by conquerthecity on Mar 15, 2017 8:17:00 GMT
The one review I've read and the video I've seen have validated my skepticism. I don't think Andromeda will be anything other than a bargain bin price purchase for me.
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Post by 10k on Mar 15, 2017 8:36:57 GMT
The CC is striped down to it's bare bones. I don't know why they didn't use Inquisition CC. I know each face we can pick to customize is a scanned face, but there will be so many Ryders looking the same.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 8:38:40 GMT
The one review I've read and the video I've seen have validated my skepticism. I don't think Andromeda will be anything other than a bargain bin price purchase for me. I don't think you will have to wait very long.
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Post by differentreasons on Mar 15, 2017 10:04:07 GMT
So, am I the only one that seems to think this Andromeda is looking just like ME3? I was expecting more. More interesting features, like CO-OP.. since the game is ya know.. about working together. The bad guys in the new game sound and kinda look like the ones from ME3. In multiplayer, we have more of the same repetitive waves, and u cant bring in your character from single player. Maybe Destiny has spoiled me, or I'm bitter about BioWare cancelling the beta and then handling it disrespectfully with zero official announcement on the channels they created to announce such things. Who's ready for Mass Effect: Baisc?
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Post by fiannawolf on Mar 15, 2017 16:11:17 GMT
Watched the 4-5 hr playthru, Ill rent it, see what happens. At least Ill have fun running Kett over in the Not-Mako. If/When I do buy permanently it will probably be the 40 dollar goty edition. Course, if I get it off of amazon, it might be even cheaper.
So far I havent seen the preview people run things over much in the Not-Mako. One of them died out in open desert because he didnt run Kett over. Hardly any natural cover. So he gets out and tries to snipe but that didnt work. They were all lined up nicely after the dropship let them down. If there's an achievement for 4 wheeled mayhem Ill get it fairly quickly. That and I am going to try to make a Ryder that frowns slightly, since in the cut scenes so far...she has this soft smile the whole time, even during emotional parts.
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