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Post by olnorton on Feb 10, 2017 23:25:28 GMT
And it makes me feel like she's with me against her logical high born judgement. She is far from high born. When she was born a disfigured hunchback, her father blamed her mother for her tainted Elven womb, said she should have smothered the abomination, and left her for another women. Her mother took it out on her and while belting her, Yennefer would cry, I've done nothing wrong mummy, I've been good. When she was old enough she killed both her parents. She has no regrets about doing it, and claims she would still do the same again. She has been a loner and a fighter her whole life. If she thinks she's wrong, she will bark back all the louder. When she needed the help of the Skellige Priestess to find Ciri, the Priestess asked her what is she prepared to give to help Ciri. Yennefer said, I have nothing. To prove how much she wanted to help Ciri, The Priestess asked her to show humility (Knowing that would be harder for her than anything else.) Yennefer said. You want to hear Yennefer of Vengerberg grovel and abase herself? No, I won't give you that pleasure. The Priestess helped her anyway, Ciri had spent more of her life in Mousesack's care (Who by witcher 3 is called Ermion) on Skellige than she had with Yennefer. That and earlier in the day Yennefer had used her magic to help a young pregnant Skellige girl and in kneeling down to do it, split the seams of her body hugging dress. Cursing under her breath that that is what's she gets for helping others. The Priestess said I will aid you, because today I witnessed you aiding a stranger without concern for your expensive clothing.
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Post by slimgrin on Feb 10, 2017 23:39:18 GMT
As with other book characters, the game should have gone into more of Yen's history to flesh out her personality better. There's a reason she's abrasive, single minded and won't coddle Geralt. Price you pay for making such a huge game, especially when recording dialog is one of the most expensive parts of production.
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Post by olnorton on Feb 11, 2017 0:24:15 GMT
As with other book characters, the game should have gone into more of Yen's history to flesh out her personality better. There's a reason she's abrasive, single minded and won't coddle Geralt. Would understanding why she is a bitch, made her any the less of a bitch?
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Post by slimgrin on Feb 11, 2017 0:26:38 GMT
As with other book characters, the game should have gone into more of Yen's history to flesh out her personality better. There's a reason she's abrasive, single minded and won't coddle Geralt. Would understanding why she is a bitch, made her any the less of a bitch? For me? Nope. I always pick Triss. But it's helpful to understand her history. I find her to be a compelling character, if not the right woman for Geralt.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 11, 2017 0:26:59 GMT
As with other book characters, the game should have gone into more of Yen's history to flesh out her personality better. There's a reason she's abrasive, single minded and won't coddle Geralt. Would understanding why she is a bitch, made her any the less of a bitch? Yes at least I know the reason why she is that way.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 11, 2017 0:36:22 GMT
Am I the only who likes Yenn? Geralt chose her 5 of the 6 playthroughs. Just in this thread. I romanced her for Ciri's sake.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 11, 2017 0:43:57 GMT
@dustyelf and smilesja I like Yen just fine. I thought she and Geralt had some cute scenes.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 11, 2017 0:46:07 GMT
As a character she's interesting, as Geralt's lover nope.
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Post by olnorton on Feb 11, 2017 1:23:54 GMT
I think the game definitely wants you to pick Yennefer. While Yennefer has been part of Geralts life for 20+ years, in the books Yennefer and Ciri were only together a year at most before they were separated at Thanedd Island. The game extended this by swapping Triss for Yennefer at Kaer Morhen meaning they were together for maybe two and a half years In the books Triss saved Ciri by arguing long and hard with the witchers at Kaer Morhen to stop them from putting her through the Trial of the Grasses In the end they bowed to her greater knowledge of sources There is no doubt that Geralt has grown to love Yennefer. The 2nd Genie wish is just a game mechanism to allow you to pick Yen or Triss for romance. Even if Geralt had come to love Triss more, I really couldn't see him telling Yennefer he didn't love her. And neither of the women would ask him to make that choice. Yennefer had known he had been sleeping with Triss for years, She only bought it up when she wanted something from Triss. And Triss prior to witcher 2 put the Lodge ahead of Geralt. When Yen asked Triss to help Geralt, Philippa butted in and said it's not in the Lodge's interest, and Triss bowed to Phillipa's will. Both of their love for Geralt was conditional. I think the number of people who choose Yen over Triss means they fleshed her out enough, and left out enough that would have made her less desirable. I think there is many other things that the game left out that would have made it easier to understand what was going on. I imagine their are many people who have played all three games, but not read the books, who couldn't tell you the reason for the Slaughter of Cintra.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 11, 2017 1:41:37 GMT
Why would we need a book to understand Yen's character? She should've appeared in the first two games.
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Post by phoray on Feb 11, 2017 1:45:05 GMT
And it makes me feel like she's with me against her logical high born judgement. She is far from high born. When she was born a disfigured hunchback, her father blamed her mother for her tainted Elven womb, said she should have smothered the abomination, and left her for another women. Her mother took it out on her and while belting her, Yennefer would cry, I've done nothing wrong mummy, I've been good. When she was old enough she killed both her parents. She has no regrets about doing it, and claims she would still do the same again. She has been a loner and a fighter her whole life. If she thinks she's wrong, she will bark back all the louder. When she needed the help of the Skellige Priestess to find Ciri, the Priestess asked her what is she prepared to give to help Ciri. Yennefer said, I have nothing. To prove how much she wanted to help Ciri, The Priestess asked her to show humility (Knowing that would be harder for her than anything else.) Yennefer said. You want to hear Yennefer of Vengerberg grovel and abase herself? No, I won't give you that pleasure. The Priestess helped her anyway, Ciri had spent more of her life in Mousesack's care (Who by witcher 3 is called Ermion) on Skellige than she had with Yennefer. That and earlier in the day Yennefer had used her magic to help a young pregnant Skellige girl and in kneeling down to do it, split the seams of her body hugging dress. Cursing under her breath that that is what's she gets for helping others. The Priestess said I will aid you, because today I witnessed you aiding a stranger without concern for your expensive clothing. This reminds me. She didn't even blink when Uma vomited on her. I was impressed with that
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Post by olnorton on Feb 11, 2017 1:46:07 GMT
I can see why a lot of people like Triss. Geralt went with her in the first 2 games. Yes CDProjektRed said Triss was canon in the first two games. But there is no doubt Shani is hands down a much nicer person. They just stacked it in Triss' favor by linking who you romanced with who you thought would be better to look after Alvin (A source with powerful uncontrolled magic) Side note: Triss tells you Alvin is a source, a child of the Elder Blood, but a book in her house in witcher 1 written by Vilgefortz (who had studied Lara Doren much more closely than Triss), stated you could be a source without any of Riannon's blood. So Alvin didn't need to be a child of the Elderblood. Although I usually still pick Shani in witcher 1 as it turns out Triss just leaves Alvin home alone and goes about Lodge business. Thought to be fair, Shani spends long hours in the hospital and leaves him in the care of a woman she herself calls a crazy old bat, so Alvin never really stood a chance. There are many reasons I like Triss over Yennefer, but the main reason I never pick Yen lies in the question: What do the two women want from Ciri? For reasons of spoilers I won't go into it further at the moment.
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Post by Gwydden on Feb 11, 2017 3:04:12 GMT
I'm one of those people who find Yen's bitchiness endlessly amusing. No way in hell I'd settle down with someone like that in real life, but you just can't get bored around her, and in all that bickering there is more than a little clever banter. This confession reminds me of when I and some friends read The Importance of Being Earnest and we all, without exception, came up with a different favorite character. Mine was Algernon. "But he's an asshole!" "Exactly." At any rate, video game LIs are often too deep in the fanservice well, and it's pleasant to see one who's... an acquired taste. Even Morrigan only was bitchy to other people; to the Warden she was all "my, my" and "u so hot" from the first moment. That's a big reason why I find Yennefer vastly preferable to Triss. The latter is a different character every game, and none of her incarnations are close to her book persona, but in Wild Hunt in particular she's just a generic RPG girlfriend, with nothing special to make her interesting. Yen's got more bite and rough edges. I'm still #TeamShani though On that note, olnorton, in the enhanced edition for TW2 you get a codex explaining how Geralt ended up with Triss, if you picked Shani in the first game and import the apropriate save.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 11, 2017 3:18:22 GMT
I'm one of those people who find Yen's bitchiness endlessly amusing. No way in hell I'd settle down with someone like that in real life, but you just can't get bored around her, and in all that bickering there is more than a little clever banter. This confession reminds me of when I and some friends read The Importance of Being Earnest and we all, without exception, came up with a different favorite character. Mine was Algernon. "But he's an asshole!" "Exactly." At any rate, video game LIs are often too deep in the fanservice well, and it's pleasant to see one who's... an acquired taste. Even Morrigan only was bitchy to other people; to the Warden she was all "my, my" and "u so hot" from the first moment. That's a big reason why I find Yennefer vastly preferable to Triss. The latter is a different character every game, and none of her incarnations are close to her book persona, but in Wild Hunt in particular she's just a generic RPG girlfriend, with nothing special to make her interesting. Yen's got more bite and rough edges. I'm still #TeamShani though On that note, olnorton, in the enhanced edition for TW2 you get a codex explaining how Geralt ended up with Triss, if you picked Shani in the first game and import the apropriate save. Yen has plenty of fanservice, but her personality makes me question who want to be around her.
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Post by slimgrin on Feb 11, 2017 3:29:53 GMT
I'm one of those people who find Yen's bitchiness endlessly amusing. No way in hell I'd settle down with someone like that in real life, but you just can't get bored around her, and in all that bickering there is more than a little clever banter. This confession reminds me of when I and some friends read The Importance of Being Earnest and we all, without exception, came up with a different favorite character. Mine was Algernon. "But he's an asshole!" "Exactly." At any rate, video game LIs are often too deep in the fanservice well, and it's pleasant to see one who's... an acquired taste. Even Morrigan only was bitchy to other people; to the Warden she was all "my, my" and "u so hot" from the first moment. That's a big reason why I find Yennefer vastly preferable to Triss. The latter is a different character every game, and none of her incarnations are close to her book persona, but in Wild Hunt in particular she's just a generic RPG girlfriend, with nothing special to make her interesting. Yen's got more bite and rough edges. I'm still #TeamShani though On that note, olnorton, in the enhanced edition for TW2 you get a codex explaining how Geralt ended up with Triss, if you picked Shani in the first game and import the apropriate save. TW1 and TW2 Triss are actually connected. There's some disparity in character, yes, but her motives and deception and her infatuation with Geralt are all there. It's in TW3 where she becomes the nice girl alternative to Yen that infuriated a lot of fans. But enough derailing this thread into the bottomless pit that almost took down the CDPR forums.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 11, 2017 3:34:28 GMT
I'm one of those people who find Yen's bitchiness endlessly amusing. No way in hell I'd settle down with someone like that in real life, but you just can't get bored around her, and in all that bickering there is more than a little clever banter. This confession reminds me of when I and some friends read The Importance of Being Earnest and we all, without exception, came up with a different favorite character. Mine was Algernon. "But he's an asshole!" "Exactly." At any rate, video game LIs are often too deep in the fanservice well, and it's pleasant to see one who's... an acquired taste. Even Morrigan only was bitchy to other people; to the Warden she was all "my, my" and "u so hot" from the first moment. That's a big reason why I find Yennefer vastly preferable to Triss. The latter is a different character every game, and none of her incarnations are close to her book persona, but in Wild Hunt in particular she's just a generic RPG girlfriend, with nothing special to make her interesting. Yen's got more bite and rough edges. I'm still #TeamShani though On that note, olnorton, in the enhanced edition for TW2 you get a codex explaining how Geralt ended up with Triss, if you picked Shani in the first game and import the apropriate save. TW1 and TW2 Triss are actually connected. There's some disparity in character, yes, but her motives and deception and her infatuation with Geralt are all there. It's in TW3 where she becomes the nice girl alternative to Yen that infuriated a lot of fans. But enough derailing this thread into the bottomless pit that almost took down the CDPR forums. First gimme the details in what went down in the forums
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Post by phoray on Feb 11, 2017 3:59:43 GMT
I find it hard to imagine the Yennifer vs Triss debate destroyed a forum. That's what the series gets for having so few options for romance
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 11, 2017 4:25:18 GMT
I have this feeling that Witcher fans in general aren't the friendly bunch that we have here.
...so I, too, want details.
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Post by olnorton on Feb 11, 2017 4:57:08 GMT
I have this feeling that Witcher fans in general aren't the friendly bunch that we have here. I'm inclined to believe you, I asked for help modding witcher 3 on 3 different forums and never got any. The people who know how seem to want to keep things secret. Of course it could just be me. But ask for help modding a bioware game and people go out of their way to help you. Same if your modding Skyrim, very experienced modders will help out total noobs.
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Post by phoray on Feb 11, 2017 6:15:19 GMT
Turning the game back on. I'm going to go help Sigi first, I'm way overleveled for it.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 11, 2017 6:19:17 GMT
Don't die otherwise it will be an emabarassment
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Post by phoray on Feb 11, 2017 6:44:20 GMT
Whoa. Roche is in on the plan eh?
I am going after their missing solider spy now.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 11, 2017 6:48:33 GMT
Told you Roche is a badass!
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Post by phoray on Feb 11, 2017 7:08:08 GMT
Are troll's always adorably stupid?
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Post by smilesja on Feb 11, 2017 7:09:26 GMT
Are troll's always adorably stupid? Yes
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