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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 5:20:00 GMT
Forget THAT! I'm risking my life killing monsters, I expect to be well paid! No worries. I took the gold.
I am not impressed with the crossbow... That was a nasty face bashing. I do not regret stepping in... Aw snap. My future girlfriend (or past) is sided with the dirty Nilfgardiens. Then the Wild Hunt dudes are oddly stopped by the lack of a bridge. Now I'm getting a hair cut. Is this an NPC that fixes the details of Witcher 2? I suspect so.
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Post by Gileadan on Jan 19, 2017 5:33:28 GMT
Yeah, the crossbow is very situational.
Ah, you found Yennefer? I doubt she sees herself as being on Nilfgaard's side, more like she's allowing them to help her out. She has...strong opinions.
I don't actually know which NPC fixes the Witcher 2 details, I just imported my save game.
Congratulations! You finished the expanded tutorial and can go off to bigger things!
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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 6:07:11 GMT
www.gamespot.com/articles/what-the-choices-of-the-witcher-2-mean-in-the-witc/1100-6427400/I used that to make my decisions. I remember watching the very very start of Witcher 2 and liking Foltest and Aryan. So, I: Allowed Aryan to live Left Flotsam with Vernon-- which puts me on that path Saved Anise for a more independent Tameria Saved Sile (eh?) Killed Letho for breaking the Witcher code of non involvement by many leagues of magnitude. Then I talked to the Emperor. And did not bow cuz frig that shite with an arrow!.... Although I got made to feel bad for it when the servant said he'd be beaten for my insolence Then Yennifer. Who didn't look for me during my memory loss because I'd been making out with Triss so sexy like apparently? But then she gave me a kiss and sincerely wished for my safety. So I guess we're a thing. Just show me the Triss break up button, I'm ready to ditch the shady witch. Although, not entirely won over by Yennifer either. May end up single. Lame.
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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 6:14:16 GMT
You'll find the Nilfgaardians don't fuck around when they mete out justice to criminals. Yes, no spoilers for the new player, but the end of the Beast of White Orchard did not sound pleasant. Now I know what you're talking about! I went looking for him too, but never could find him.
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 19, 2017 6:21:11 GMT
www.gamespot.com/articles/what-the-choices-of-the-witcher-2-mean-in-the-witc/1100-6427400/I used that to make my decisions. I remember watching the very very start of Witcher 2 and liking Foltest and Aryan. So, I: Allowed Aryan to live Left Flotsam with Vernon-- which puts me on that path Saved Anise for a more independent Tameria Saved Sile (eh?) Killed Letho for breaking the Witcher code of non involvement by many leagues of magnitude. Then I talked to the Emperor. And did not bow cuz frig that shite with an arrow!.... Although I got made to feel bad for it when the servant said he'd be beaten for my insolence Then Yennifer. Who didn't look for me during my memory loss because I'd been making out with Triss so sexy like apparently? But then she gave me a kiss and sincerely wished for my safety. So I guess we're a thing. Just show me the Triss break up button, I'm ready to ditch the shady witch. Although, not entirely won over by Yennifer either. May end up single. Lame. You will have more opportunities to either romance Triss or Yen later in the game, so you don't need to worry about it now. Yen is certainly somewhat of a Slytherin, in a way...she's got her own agenda and as stated earlier, very strong opinions. But she does love Geralt and Ciri. I like her well enough. I didn't have that Witcher 2 simulator you are talking about. I'm going to have to look into getting it in case I do a 3rd playthrough.
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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 6:28:51 GMT
You will have more opportunities to either romance Triss or Yen later in the game, so you don't need to worry about it now. Yen is certainly somewhat of a Slytherin, in a way...she's got her own agenda and as stated earlier, very strong opinions. But she does love Geralt and Ciri. I like her well enough. I didn't have that Witcher 2 simulator you are talking about. I'm going to have to look into getting it in case I do a 3rd playthrough. Ooo. Does that mean I can have a tryst with the Herbalist? I really think there was a spark there. Edit add: sigh and nope. I did look to see if she were available. No go. Slytherin we got a lot of references on this thread. Dragon Age, Star Wars, Mass Effect, Telltale TWD, and now Harry Potter. If she's Slytherin, what is Triss?
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 19, 2017 7:01:58 GMT
You will have more opportunities to either romance Triss or Yen later in the game, so you don't need to worry about it now. Yen is certainly somewhat of a Slytherin, in a way...she's got her own agenda and as stated earlier, very strong opinions. But she does love Geralt and Ciri. I like her well enough. I didn't have that Witcher 2 simulator you are talking about. I'm going to have to look into getting it in case I do a 3rd playthrough. Ooo. Does that mean I can have a tryst with the Herbalist? I really think there was a spark there. Slytherin we got a lot of references on this thread. Dragon Age, Star Wars, Mass Effect, Telltale TWD, and now Harry Potter. If she's Slytherin, what is Triss? I think all the sorceresses count as Slytherins I don't dislike Triss either, and I don't think she's a bad person, but I'm not OK with the fact that she lied to Geralt (apparently also hiding Ciri's existence?) when he couldn't have known any better.
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Post by slimgrin on Jan 19, 2017 7:10:46 GMT
Triss in TW3 is the writer's failing to follow through on her more complex personality from TW2. Almost everyone got their hands dirty in that game. She's pretty one dimensional and altruistic and not much else. There are a number of other possible trysts scattered in the world but they're relatively rare.
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Post by Gileadan on Jan 19, 2017 7:58:05 GMT
There will be enough time later to get to know Yen and Triss and decide who you'd rather romance (if any). As dragontartare said, pretty much every member of the Lodge of Sorceresses qualifies as Slytherin, but in TW3 they made Triss more kind and sweet than she should be... maybe so there'd be a bigger difference to no-nonsense Yen, I don't know. Over the course of the three games, they even changed Triss' hair color. She's auburn in TW1 and a redhead in TW3. Funny enough, she chews you out for "picking that redhead" in TW1 if you choose Shani over her.
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Post by Serza on Jan 19, 2017 8:43:23 GMT
You can loot from houses. Don't let the guards see you or they will attack you. The guards are a bit harder to kill sometimes. Yeah, no joke. They like being five, ten levels above you. Well crap! Not a minor side quest after all? Is there a spoiler free explaination of whether I want to help to get a "Free North"? I thought Witchers were like Wardens and weren't supposed to take sides. A link to spoiler free explaination is fine if you guys don't want to type it out. I mean, at first glance "a Free North" sounds great. But if it's anything like the civil war in Skyrim, I'll hate both sides of this mess. Technically, Old Vesemir takes sides. Northern Realms. But I didn't like the price for their victory. So, just haggled my first job with little understanding of how much is a lot of money. So, I may have skimped myself. It seemed a good cause anyway. Charged 21? For fixing a haunted well? It's interesting to be a hero for pay and not be looked at cross eyed for being a Merc. White Orchard, then. Not even Velen. It gets... MASSIVE when you get to Velen, and the contracts start paying 300 Orens/Crowns at a time. I had a few where they paid over 700, rich bastards. Forget THAT! I'm risking my life killing monsters, I expect to be well paid! No worries. I took the gold.
I am not impressed with the crossbow... That was a nasty face bashing. I do not regret stepping in... Aw snap. My future girlfriend (or past) is sided with the dirty Nilfgardiens. Then the Wild Hunt dudes are oddly stopped by the lack of a bridge. Now I'm getting a hair cut. Is this an NPC that fixes the details of Witcher 2? I suspect so. I took the gold on my first run, but... It was literally between 20 and 25 Orens. So I let it be on NG+. www.gamespot.com/articles/what-the-choices-of-the-witcher-2-mean-in-the-witc/1100-6427400/I used that to make my decisions. I remember watching the very very start of Witcher 2 and liking Foltest and Aryan. So, I: Allowed Aryan to live Left Flotsam with Vernon-- which puts me on that path Saved Anise for a more independent Tameria Saved Sile (eh?) Killed Letho for breaking the Witcher code of non involvement by many leagues of magnitude. Then I talked to the Emperor. And did not bow cuz frig that shite with an arrow!.... Although I got made to feel bad for it when the servant said he'd be beaten for my insolence Then Yennifer. Who didn't look for me during my memory loss because I'd been making out with Triss so sexy like apparently? But then she gave me a kiss and sincerely wished for my safety. So I guess we're a thing. Just show me the Triss break up button, I'm ready to ditch the shady witch. Although, not entirely won over by Yennifer either. May end up single. Lame. Letting Aryan live is honorable. Roche's path is arguably better, since nothing from Iorveth's can stick around. With Roche, you get tangible results, unlike Iorveth's path, because neither Iorveth nor Saessenthessis make an appearance in the third game. Saving the young La Valette... Well, Triss can take care of herself, fuck that. As for Sile, she gets her instant karma in a teabag anyway later on, it just takes longer. Letho took a side, yes: The School of the Viper. Witchers are hunted in Nilfgaard, and the emperor made him an offer: do this, and Witchers will be left to their devices. He's a surprisingly grey character in W2, even having a prior book history with Geralt and letting him live when beaten in a sword fight. The emperor is a dumbarse! He's lucky the North is too fucked up. Triss in TW3 is the writer's failing to follow through on her more complex personality from TW2. Almost everyone got their hands dirty in that game. She's pretty one dimensional and altruistic and not much else. There are a number of other possible trysts scattered in the world but they're relatively rare. *cough* Keira *cough*
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Jan 19, 2017 9:14:56 GMT
My 2 cents on then Witcher trilogy:
The first game bore me to tears, just wanted to finish with this already. The combat is dreadfully boring, the animations are cringier than ME1 (but thats what you get from Aurora which is more suited for top down perspective), the settings are so small... As far as I know Triss's personality in the first game is the closest to the one in the books, her personality seems closer to Yen in this regard.
The second game is pretty good, technically much better than DA2 which came out around the same time, but I didn't get into the witcher world as much as I got into it in Dragon Age. In terms of customization in the 1st and 2nd games it is much more limited than Dragon Age, thus greatly reducing the replayability for them. Also, needs grinding to actually get Gerald powerful enough. Lorveth's path is much more interesting than Roche's path although Roche is a bro (Broche?) and Lorveth is a massive dick, Saskia is an awesome character and that helps.
I didn't play the 3rd game. My PC wouldn't play it well. I've watched the video stories online. Can't comment on the gameplay, heard that Ciri is brokenly OP and thats a shame. Can't get the FemHawke voice out of my head every time I hear Ciri. Also I don't get the Yen hype, she is a cold manipulating bitch that used a Djinn to seduce Gerald. I liked Triss far more in TW2 and TW3, but I've read she gets far more hate from the fanbase based on what she did in the books. Frankly, maybe they should have given an option to continue the romance with Shani throughout the trilogy instead of her appearing just in the first game and Hearts of Stone.
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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 9:22:27 GMT
Okay, screwed my night of good sleep by trying to go to bed on the whole Yen Ciri Nilfgardiens thing. Got better by doing semi mindless side quests to get me sleepy. I did go into this inn and some jerks walked in. And I managed to avoid a fight! I was happy and feeling clever! then went back out into town and overheard the truth. I had just ignored a band of bandits pillaging the village and making threats of rape. D: what have I done? In a situation like that, can I just punch them and go back on my decision? In other news, it's pretty neat to get the little nod of self worth when I clear an abandoned village of it's troubles. Merchants who have limited gold is realistic. But it's the annoying kind of realistic, I disapprove. Still loving the -fast- self pathing horse. I have no urge to fast travel. I can opt to rest my eyes or enjoy the scenery. And dismounting at a full gallop looks cool! Not to mention not fast-traveling helps immersion, I think. Still neat to be like.. swimming is faster -dive into a river- Meditation for healing is cooler than sleeping in a tent. You know, I still haven't gotten to sit on anything that isn't a horse. The potions don't seem very required on normal mode. Geralt needs to talk to himself more to make up for lack of side kick. I've managed to get a lot of loot, albeit not much more money by going after all the question marks. Also, ability points! Maxed my mind control, working on fast attack. Which, if I got the button enough, my fast attack is also a Dodge. That's a strategy, right? And now, time for bed
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Post by Gileadan on Jan 19, 2017 10:39:22 GMT
I agree that it gets annoying when merchants only have little money to buy their goods. Luckily, the better established ones - those in bigger settlements as well as those that are quartermasters - have more money at their disposal. Some merchants are also master craftsmen, so you can have a constant exchange of gold and services with them without them running out of gold any time soon. Let them craft something for you, which gives them money, then sell all your loot to them.
When you go swimming, use your Witcher senses once in a while! Some herbs only grow on the bottom of lakes and rivers, and the Witcher sense will light them up.
You will also find little sailing boats scattered around. You can use those to travel over bodies of water at a higher speed than swimming. However, they can be damaged or even sunk by attacking creatures, so watch out for the nasties.
The potions are not very necessary to the average monster gang you find during your travels, but some contracts lead to tough critters where every bit of help will be valuable.
Also, hang on to any named mutagens you may loot. They are quite rare and are needed for special alchemical recipes.
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Post by Serza on Jan 19, 2017 12:14:59 GMT
Special alchemical recipes I never brewed...
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Post by Babar Guy on Jan 19, 2017 14:23:27 GMT
My 2 cents on then Witcher trilogy: The first game bore me to tears, just wanted to finish with this already. The combat is dreadfully boring, the animations are cringier than ME1 (but thats what you get from Aurora which is more suited for top down perspective), the settings are so small... As far as I know Triss's personality in the first game is the closest to the one in the books, her personality seems closer to Yen in this regard. The second game is pretty good, technically much better than DA2 which came out around the same time, but I didn't get into the witcher world as much as I got into it in Dragon Age. In terms of customization in the 1st and 2nd games it is much more limited than Dragon Age, thus greatly reducing the replayability for them. Also, needs grinding to actually get Gerald powerful enough. Lorveth's path is much more interesting than Roche's path although Roche is a bro (Broche?) and Lorveth is a massive dick, Saskia is an awesome character and that helps. I didn't play the 3rd game. My PC wouldn't play it well. I've watched the video stories online. Can't comment on the gameplay, heard that Ciri is brokenly OP and thats a shame. Can't get the FemHawke voice out of my head every time I hear Ciri. Also I don't get the Yen hype, she is a cold manipulating bitch that used a Djinn to seduce Gerald. I liked Triss far more in TW2 and TW3, but I've read she gets far more hate from the fanbase based on what she did in the books. Frankly, maybe they should have given an option to continue the romance with Shani throughout the trilogy instead of her appearing just in the first game and Hearts of Stone. I haven't read the books, but I'm pretty sure that it's Geralt who made the wish that bound them together.
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Post by LightningPoodle on Jan 19, 2017 14:23:35 GMT
Always happy to hear DA fans give The Witcher a shot.
Now I want to play it again.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Jan 19, 2017 15:41:14 GMT
I haven't read the books, but I'm pretty sure that it's Geralt who made the wish that bound them together. You are right, my bad. As far as I read Gerald made that wish to save her life from the Djinn, but still this doesn't change my opinion about Yen.
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Post by correctamundo on Jan 19, 2017 16:12:14 GMT
Cool Phoray, I'm putting my TW3 pt on hold (again) and going through the first fame. Will mostlikely jump right into TW2 after that. Gotta say that playing the first really helps to get under Geralts skin. And now thast I got the somewhat wonky combat under control I'm having a great time. It's great being as gamer that don't need to hate "the other franchises".
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Jan 19, 2017 16:25:54 GMT
There will be enough time later to get to know Yen and Triss and decide who you'd rather romance (if any). As dragontartare said, pretty much every member of the Lodge of Sorceresses qualifies as Slytherin, but in TW3 they made Triss more kind and sweet than she should be... maybe so there'd be a bigger difference to no-nonsense Yen, I don't know. Eh. The problem I had with this is that if you do most of the Velen / Novigrad quests before going to Skellige, you'll spend a lot of time with Triss before you catch up with Yennefer again. Triss does come off as a nicer person, at least for a while - I haven't read the books so I don't have too many preconceived notions of what she should or shouldn't be like. I didn't find her 100% trustworthy in TW1. In TW2, I *thought* she was basically being honest, but it was never explained whether she knew anything about the other sorceresses' plotting or not. Maybe I'd find out more if I'd done Roche's path and/or busted her out of jail instead of going to cure Saskia.
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Post by correctamundo on Jan 19, 2017 16:55:17 GMT
In TW1 Triss is definitely more of a sorceress and a political creature than in TW3.
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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 17:00:27 GMT
Awwwww I've save he same merchant twice now. It's like I have a Bodahn again They may do stars well but their lightning sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 17:25:15 GMT
This has probably been asked a million times, but which game would you guys recommend starting at? I've tried The Witcher 1 and didn't like it, so can I start at 2 or 3? Does it really matter?
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Post by phoray on Jan 19, 2017 17:34:55 GMT
Oh neat. After not finding a crafter except behind the Baron's locked door, I went back to the Dwarf in White Orchard. He's got a nifty forge. And the humans of the town are shunning him. That's not the best part. Just that my consequences carried over time is neat.
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Post by LightningPoodle on Jan 19, 2017 17:42:26 GMT
The Witcher 3 was designed so that you don't need to play the previous two games to know what is going on, and in almost all cases, that remains true. You can play the Witcher 3 and have an amazing experience, and not know anything from the previous games or books.
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Post by correctamundo on Jan 19, 2017 18:05:17 GMT
This has probably been asked a million times, but which game would you guys recommend starting at? I've tried The Witcher 1 and didn't like it, so can I start at 2 or 3? Does it really matter? I'm sure you can start at any part and have a good time but I must say that my own Geralt appreciation has really been helped by going back to the first game. It is really wonky at first but there are quite a lot of background, lore and cool characters there. I will not have time for reading the books so that is my way of getting into the best way. Still I'm really enjoying the first game now.
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