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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 31, 2016 21:03:56 GMT
Could someone explain what Kadan is meant to imply? I thought it meant "heart" as was an affectionate term that Bull uses for both the Inquisitor and Dorian. However, I was looking through some pictures taken from the comic series Those who Speak and noticed that the new Arishok (aka Sten) calls Alistair "Kadan". This has me really puzzled because whilst Sten appeared to respect the Warden by the end, I didn't notice he had any particular regard for Alistair. Yet I notice the Arishok is also calling him Basalit-an, so it would appear that he does respect Alistair. So can anyone explain his use of the term "Kadan"?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 22:10:59 GMT
According to the wiki, Kadan means "Where the heart lies" and is an all-purpose word for a "person one cares about". That can mean colleagues, friends and loved ones. I figure the interpretation depends on the person using it.
Game wise, Sten's requirement for the Kadan title is to do his personal quest and have +75 in approval. Maybe comic Alistair played a bigger part in retrieving Asala and got a big enough approval boost for being a steadfast ally against the Blight, thus meeting the criteria for Kadan? Defeating the Archdemon was a big thing in Stens eyes, so maybe all the companions in the Wardens party got the Kadan and Basalit-an title post Blight. Because they were good allies that did a spectacular deed.
As for why Iron Bull doesn't give all the companion Kadan title post Cory. He probably has a tighter criteria. After all, being a spy, he's always going to put some distance between him and the others. When your life is built on lies, you probably learn to be careful with your feelings. He might also use the title tactically, since the title can be translated in a manner that makes it sound more romantic than it is. For a foreigner, being called "My heart" might sound incredibly special and romantic, but maybe less so if they learn that it's what he also calls Bob at the water cooler. On the other hand Sten was a soldier and maybe specially trained to care for and respect his comrades. Within reason of course. After all in his Fade dream, when the two Karashok are bickering, one of them refers to the other as Kadan.
Hope this made some sense.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 1, 2016 20:57:52 GMT
Thank you, that was helpful. So essentially Arishok/Sten was using it likely in the more conventional sense among the Qun of respected colleague or close friend, whilst Bull has extended its meaning to give it a more romantic edge. Makes sense in a way, I suppose, since he does say that the qunari love their friends same as everyone else, they just don't have sex with them because in the Qun the latter activity is strictly controlled. So in the absence of a specific Qunari term for a lover, he went with the next best thing.
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Post by Artemis on Nov 2, 2016 20:19:55 GMT
Thank you, that was helpful. So essentially Arishok/Sten was using it likely in the more conventional sense among the Qun of respected colleague or close friend, whilst Bull has extended its meaning to give it a more romantic edge. Makes sense in a way, I suppose, since he does say that the qunari love their friends same as everyone else, they just don't have sex with them because in the Qun the latter activity is strictly controlled. So in the absence of a specific Qunari term for a lover, he went with the next best thing. Yeah they wouldn't have a term for "lover," which when you think about it is pretty sad. On the other hand, it's helpful having that prior knowledge about Sten, because you realize when Bull finally calls you "kadan" it means, in addition to enjoying a sexual relationship with you, that he has also come to love, admire, and respect you.
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Post by pensieve on Nov 6, 2016 16:09:29 GMT
What is your favorite race/gender/type of character to romance Bull with? I'm starting a new game only for his romance (and to finally punch Solas in the face) but I can't think of an interesting character to play with. All I know is that it has to be a redhead.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Nov 6, 2016 18:39:13 GMT
What is your favorite race/gender/type of character to romance Bull with? I'm starting a new game only for his romance (and to finally punch Solas in the face) but I can't think of an interesting character to play with. All I know is that it has to be a redhead. I think Bull is good for any character type. I romanced him with a mage Trev (just like the one in my avatar pic), though unfortunately there isn't any difference in dialogue with him if your character has red hair. I'd just try out a combo that you've never played before, for something different. You could also look online for the comments Bull makes for specific specs, I know he has a good little interaction for Reavers.
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Post by smellycatbutts on Nov 6, 2016 19:07:39 GMT
What is your favorite race/gender/type of character to romance Bull with? I'm starting a new game only for his romance (and to finally punch Solas in the face) but I can't think of an interesting character to play with. All I know is that it has to be a redhead. Most popular seems to be dwarf d/t size difference. I followed suit, but kept Bull Qun loyal. For some reason, I prefer the unhappy end version of the romance.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2016 7:37:57 GMT
What is your favorite race/gender/type of character to romance Bull with? I'm starting a new game only for his romance (and to finally punch Solas in the face) but I can't think of an interesting character to play with. All I know is that it has to be a redhead. I like romancing him with a male mage elf the best (In Trespasser you get a little extra dialogue with him with knight enchanter, but not a big deal). He talks about most of the warrior specializations I believe as well. Good times.
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Post by smellycatbutts on Nov 7, 2016 21:55:35 GMT
What is your favorite race/gender/type of character to romance Bull with? I'm starting a new game only for his romance (and to finally punch Solas in the face) but I can't think of an interesting character to play with. All I know is that it has to be a redhead. I like romancing him with a male mage elf the best (In Trespasser you get a little extra dialogue with him with knight enchanter, but not a big deal). He talks about most of the warrior specializations I believe as well. Good times. You get extra dialogue for KE, Tempest, and... I forget the warrior specialization that gets you extra dialogue.
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Post by Artemis on Nov 12, 2016 6:38:27 GMT
What is your favorite race/gender/type of character to romance Bull with? I'm starting a new game only for his romance (and to finally punch Solas in the face) but I can't think of an interesting character to play with. All I know is that it has to be a redhead. I think Bull is good for any character type. I romanced him with a mage Trev (just like the one in my avatar pic), though unfortunately there isn't any difference in dialogue with him if your character has red hair. But I will say that the first time I romanced him (and wasn't happy about it b/c I was too busy being bitter about not being able to romance Cullen or Solas or Blackwall) I got irritated and jealous (for my inquisitor's sake) every time Bull made some comment about redheads. So for my second and official "canon" playthrough, I made my inquisitor a redhead so that I could headcanon him getting a little flustered and perhaps wondering if Bull might be into him, too... ♥ What is your favorite race/gender/type of character to romance Bull with? I'm starting a new game only for his romance (and to finally punch Solas in the face) but I can't think of an interesting character to play with. All I know is that it has to be a redhead. I like romancing him with a male mage elf the best (In Trespasser you get a little extra dialogue with him with knight enchanter, but not a big deal). He talks about most of the warrior specializations I believe as well. Good times. Yeah mine is a male mage elf, too. What about personality? Mine's the middle / funny personality. I think a haughty / angry personality could be really cute lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 17:47:08 GMT
I think Bull is good for any character type. I romanced him with a mage Trev (just like the one in my avatar pic), though unfortunately there isn't any difference in dialogue with him if your character has red hair. But I will say that the first time I romanced him (and wasn't happy about it b/c I was too busy being bitter about not being able to romance Cullen or Solas or Blackwall) I got irritated and jealous (for my inquisitor's sake) every time Bull made some comment about redheads. So for my second and official "canon" playthrough, I made my inquisitor a redhead so that I could headcanon him getting a little flustered and perhaps wondering if Bull might be into him, too... ♥ I like romancing him with a male mage elf the best (In Trespasser you get a little extra dialogue with him with knight enchanter, but not a big deal). He talks about most of the warrior specializations I believe as well. Good times. Yeah mine is a male mage elf, too. What about personality? Mine's the middle / funny personality. I think a haughty / angry personality could be really cute lol I don't tend to stick to any one personality type, but I do like the joke options in some cases. Though I tend to go for the serious options if they get me more mushy romance moments.
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Post by witchcocktor on Nov 12, 2016 19:25:48 GMT
What is your favorite race/gender/type of character to romance Bull with? I'm starting a new game only for his romance (and to finally punch Solas in the face) but I can't think of an interesting character to play with. All I know is that it has to be a redhead. A male qunari who is very dominant and oozes testosterone and masculinity. Someone who Iron Bull can't just order around in bedroom, but who poses a challenge and wants to take charge as much as Bull does. A qunari who is a proud tal-vashoth through and through, but is the shoulder Iron Bull can come to cry on and feel no judgment when Qun throws him out (if you choose that path). A man who Iron Bull comes to need, rather than a man who comes to need Iron Bull if that makes sense (not that the feelings/relationship aren't mutual and as strong from both parties). That would be my favorite kind of character to romance Bull with. Someone who kind of puts '' Iron Bull in his place '' and poses a challenge, is unshakable and can't be controlled, and that's what Iron Bull comes to love and adore, that he is so real, so convicted in his beliefs and can't be molded by others. Add to that possible Reaver specialization, because that's the best class to romance Bull with, really.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 12, 2016 19:30:07 GMT
What is your favorite race/gender/type of character to romance Bull with? I'm starting a new game only for his romance (and to finally punch Solas in the face) but I can't think of an interesting character to play with. All I know is that it has to be a redhead. Male qunari mage. Dominant.
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Post by SilentK on Nov 13, 2016 16:13:33 GMT
I have a direct female Qunari Knight-Enchanter. I her, she is pretty much my FemShep in Thedas. I really missed playing someone that I felt was forceful, the female elf I played in the previous PT was a very different person, it was nice to try that as well. But this is so much fun. Think that she will be a great match with Iron Bull, if I could only get any quests with him He has the greetings that should mean that he is on very good terms with her but still no drinks with the chargers after coming home to Skyhold. Getting a little bit desperate so now I am doing Here Lies the Abyss, and praying that he will get moving. Did some googling and at least that worked for another gamer so keeping all my fingers crossed here. Notice me senpai!!!1! answers.ea.com/t5/Dragon-Age-Inquisition/Iron-Bull-s-quest-won-t-trigger-demands-of-the-qun/td-p/4082570
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 19:22:42 GMT
SilentK Just to be sure, have you talked to him about the Ben Hassarath?
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Post by Artemis on Nov 13, 2016 19:46:56 GMT
And make sure you go horse-racing in the Hinterlands and take him with you
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Post by SilentK on Nov 13, 2016 19:47:58 GMT
SilentK Just to be sure, have you talked to him about the Ben Hassarath? Yes, I remember that conversation, also I got the codex Qunari: Ben-Hassrath unlocked in the game.
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Post by SilentK on Nov 13, 2016 20:07:48 GMT
And make sure you go horse-racing in the Hinterlands and take him with you I have already done the first race, and I am woefully bad at managing horses in RL and in Thedas. Don't think I have it in me to do two more, lol. But thank you for suggesting it in case I didn't know it was a way to get some approval
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 13, 2016 20:32:07 GMT
Take him on a dragon hunt; that always does the trick. I got all the way through to the end of my first game without getting his personal quest. I didn't even realise he had one until I came to the boards but I saw that a dragon hunt always boosts his approval. So I back tracked, took him on a dragon hunt and hey presto I had enough approval to meet the Chargers and then get his personal quest.
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Post by SilentK on Nov 13, 2016 21:57:58 GMT
Take him on a dragon hunt; that always does the trick. I got all the way through to the end of my first game without getting his personal quest. I didn't even realise he had one until I came to the boards but I saw that a dragon hunt always boosts his approval. So I back tracked, took him on a dragon hunt and hey presto I had enough approval to meet the Chargers and then get his personal quest. [x] Fireproof potion - check [x] Fireproof belts - check [ ] Lovelife ..... That dragon is going down the next time I play, or at least I really hope so. One level more then the last time when it pretty much toyed around with me. And better grear. For backup I just got all the Power for unlocking the last stage of "Into the Abyss". I'm getting that Qunari one way or the other. Ha ha ha, poor sods in Crestwood. They shouted for her to stop and help and I powered through because I just wanted to talk to Alistair and Hawke to move the story forward. Villager in town beset by the undead: "Oh Inquisitor, you are here. Bless the maker, there are undead everywhere.... Wait... you're leaving... you just got here" Quizzy: "Sorry about that, places to go, warden's to see. But you're on the list. Promise "
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 4:32:04 GMT
Taking Iron Bull dragon hunting is like the hottest date ever. Well, unless it's an ice dragon. I should go.
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Post by thats1evildude on Dec 2, 2016 5:06:08 GMT
Behold this sad tale unfolding on Twitter, partially starring me. Yet another victim of the rabid Solasmancers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 14:17:36 GMT
thats1evildudeShe should hurl herself into Iron Bulls pillowy man-bosom. That would soften any fall. :3 And would save another Solas mancer from their spiral hell, or where ever they always seem to end up.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Dec 2, 2016 16:02:58 GMT
Behold this sad tale unfolding on Twitter, partially starring me. Yet another victim of the rabid Solasmancers. Bwahahaha!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 2:52:24 GMT
I'm starting to think Solacemancers just want other people to hurt too. I'll take Iron Bull over Solas anytime.
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