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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 27, 2017 16:38:17 GMT
[Sorry, not a huge fan of the quoting systems. It's annoying to have to edit out certain things to avoid an enormous post so I'm just tagging you instead.] dropzofcrimzon: Not gonna argue about the weapons thing. Kind of futile unless, like the Nexus, we can upgrade the Tempest as we go. That might be cool. Also, if we can create brand new weapons there's not a reason in the world the Tempest and Nomad shouldn't be upgradeable. Still, show of force might come. Obviously, if we don't become powerful then the Khet win and we're all dead anyway. Tbh, we may only be the underdog due to the AI split. If we were united that might not be the case.
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 27, 2017 16:39:27 GMT
Hey, it just occurred to me there's another thing that's been bothering me about ME:A, though admittedly it's a bit silly. Everyone is too damn young! All these guys look like they barely left high school! Another Hollywood Syndrome, hehe. Ryder is young, 22. Liam is probably a couple years older, Cora could be 30. I don't think Peebee and Vetra are that young, they're likely around Shepard's age (of course, in the respective species' comparison) when the game started. Drack is likely the oldest krogan we ever met, according to the site.
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Post by noviere on Jan 27, 2017 16:46:44 GMT
Hey, it just occurred to me there's another thing that's been bothering me about ME:A, though admittedly it's a bit silly. Everyone is too damn young! All these guys look like they barely left high school! Another Hollywood Syndrome, hehe. Personally, I kinda love it. And I say that as someone who is in his 30s. I like that it gives room for me to see the character grow over time. Shep was a veteran when we got a hold of him/her, so it's a nice change
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 27, 2017 16:55:04 GMT
I love the pic below. But, where is Vetra? Also, the background suggests they are in a Vault. Scott's armour is N7_venish looking. So, is Jaal our 7th squad made? He just doesn't look like a combat guy.... leader perhaps. About that armor Scott is wearing... I believe Scott or Sara eventually inherits Dad's armor. Based on the latest AI Briefing, Scott and Sara were given informal N7 training by their father at a young age. Given he has no military superiors, I guess he would count as their "trainer" and that might allow them to wear in semi-legitimately. Sort of like Vega getting the tattoo without anything official. I'm not sure we can judge this newer alien species on combat effectiveness just yet. They might be equivalent to krogan or batarian.
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Post by boyaki on Jan 27, 2017 16:55:21 GMT
I think the AI is more of a re-start idealistic organisation, leaving with the best and brightest to create a new perfect world, hence the demilitarization of the project. It would explain how a project like this with absolute no benefits for the mily ways recieved such enormous funds.
But each initiation trailer was followed by a information on how it will majesticly screw up : -The Ark and Nexus explained how the arks are capital to the nexus and how they will be escorted by only a few -The Nomad and the Tempest being weaponless -Cora being second in command -The chief security gal -Golden worlds
That's the theory. -However we know shit is going to hit the fan for the Hyperion. -Strong enemy resistance would be encounter -Cora will not become pathfinder -There are a lot of deserters, problematic when it is your security force -Habitat 7 seems already occupied and not the only one
And I think it is exactly a point of ME:A. An idealistic but naive enterprise to create a utopy that will be confronted to reality. The AI will need to get weaponised, rally aliens and fail its original purpose hence moral dilemnas in the nexus government much like in the milky way.
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Post by mmoblitz on Jan 27, 2017 17:10:02 GMT
Everything was good in the trailer except Bioware cliche baddie confirmed, Michael Bay dialog and Cora's craptastic hair. Yes, Im gonna bitch about the hair until Bioware gets off this femme-butch kick. God forbid they make a character good looking AND feminine. Loved the smexy new aliens. Great character/art design overall. I for one praise BioWare for choosing to be a bit more creative in how they design their characters, especially their female ones, choosing to favor different looks and appearances and styles alongside new personalities and traits, equaling that of male characters, who have historically been afforded more variety in their appearance. Yet no one makes a song and dance if Zaeed has a scar, or if Jacob wears a tight suit, or if Joker has a douchey beard or whatever. Sure, I can understand people may be disappointed, given many will want to romance Cora. But 'femme-butch'? I don't like that implication, or the sense that our reception to these characters should begin and end with what they look like. Creative? I could pull any female character out of DAI and slap her in ME:A and they would fit right in. Other than clothing, nothing needs to be changed. But, yeah, they are creative...
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Post by mmoblitz on Jan 27, 2017 17:26:14 GMT
You know its funny the more I look at default Fem Ryder the less I wanna play as her. I thought she was fine at first but now...there is something very bug worthy about her. Scott is fine as of now. Scott is MUCH prettier than his sister. That's why all my hopes are pinned on a decent custom character actually being possible. My Inquisitor was hideous. I felt bad making Cullen kiss that fugly thing. It's not surprising that the guys look better than the females. It was that way in DAI. Hard to tell them apart from the neck up.
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Post by vit246 on Jan 27, 2017 17:26:18 GMT
Everyone looks like they're wearing jammies.
Nobody's wearing a goddamn helmet, space or otherwise. This is a pet peeve of mine.
Male Ryder's voice. It makes me want to punch his face.
Cora's hair. Goddamn it. Again with haircuts that look like Dubstep Skrillex buzzcut sideburns. Wtf Bioware?
And Liam's entire face and head at 1:21 makes me feel embarrassed to look at him.
That being said, I'm honestly looking forward to this to see if Bioware learned anything from the first three games.
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Post by Beerfish on Jan 27, 2017 17:32:15 GMT
Everyone looks like they're wearing jammies. Nobody's wearing a goddamn helmet, space or otherwise. This is a pet peeve of mine. Male Ryder's voice. It makes me want to punch his face. Cora's hair. Goddamn it. Again with haircuts that look like Dubstep Skrillex buzzcut sideburns. Wtf Bioware? And the black guy's entire face and head at 1:21 makes me feel embarrassed to look at him. That being said, I'm honestly looking forward to this to see if Bioware learned anything from the first three games. I would say that is zero chance of that because you have already made up your mind, you are not alone though there is number of people who are 'waiting to see' when in reality they are 'waiting to beak'
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Post by vit246 on Jan 27, 2017 17:40:45 GMT
Oh hey there Beerfish from the old forum.
Anyway, don't tell me how I'm feeling. I'm just being cautious and refuse to buy into the hype by tempering my excitement. Precedents and all that. You never know if Bioware's gonna pull the wool over your eyes.
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Post by Beerfish on Jan 27, 2017 18:23:20 GMT
Oh hey there Beerfish from the old forum. Anyway, don't tell me how I'm feeling. I'm just being cautious and refuse to buy into the hype by tempering my excitement. Precedents and all that. You never know if Bioware's gonna pull the wool over your eyes. I have never seen one person in all my years of being on game forums that made posts like you made mashing everything and then suddenly say, Hey! this game is great! Or even 'Hey this game is better than I thought!' Not once. We already know about 3 regular posters on here who will hate the game but they will still have to buy the thing so they can have cred in the future bashings. There are tons of people who take the games and company to task for the bad parts of the games but at least acknowledge the good parts. The people that pre bash everything in all of their posts and then post bash everything are bewildering.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Jan 27, 2017 19:47:49 GMT
Also....I really REALLY am not liking the default Scott...will have to work on that, a LOT I know a guy who looks just like him and we were not on good terms in high school. Funny enough he was a model too!To ^ guy: Every time I look at default Femryder in pose-shots I want to play as her. Then I think of this O.o When I see this picture, I do NOT want to play her. She looks like Goofy Ryder.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jan 27, 2017 20:08:58 GMT
The baddie does remind me of DAI's but if it's anything like DAI there will be a real villain behind the scenes that this game is just a set-up for.
I enjoyed the trailer but then my expectations for MEA are pretty much that it be a decent action/space soap opera like the previous 3 were and if it is then I'll be pretty happy with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 20:56:05 GMT
Not really impressed. Trailer felt a little too much like a typical action movie trailer and I couldn't help but sigh when I heard the voice from what I assume will be the bad guy. And really, "I have a Krogan, I don't need an army"? But hey gotta give credit where credit is due. These aliens look pretty cool!
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Post by colfoley on Jan 27, 2017 21:02:57 GMT
So I was watching the trailer again last night. I am now on about my 8th viewing counting all the reactions I have watched, and it occured to me: Andromeda is done very much in the vein of JJ Abrams Star Trek reboot. (Which for those keeping track is now the third thing I think they are going for). But, a blend of action combined with classic exploration elements with just a dash of modern character drama thrown in. Now I don't think this is a bad thing since I quite like the JJ Trek (heck more then the original even). But a lot of the scenes did seem to come straight out of the new Trek movies or at least very similar, more so then the relations to Marvel. When Vetra is telling Ryder, "Please, you're not really going out there on our own"...the scene in Trek 09 where the Captain of the Kelvin is going off to the Nerada. The line "We're Explorers, not an army," ripped right out of Treks into Darkness and its moralistic hand wringing from Scotty over their mission, but it makes a lot more sense since the AIs armaments is limited where Starfleet might as well be a military. The scene where the Tempest drops out of warp and hits the Scourage similar to the Enterprise dropping out of warp over Vulcan. And that very big dark cloud thing seems at least pretty similar to Krall's fleet from Trek Beyond. (though I admit its unlikely to be inspired by Beyond given the timeline but they are still similar looking in over all execution)
Of course this is not to say that ME A= JJ Trek, its going to be its own thing its just I think a lot of the inspiration comes from it. Which is cool. Because BioWare should be able to take that ball and tell a much better story.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 21:25:16 GMT
Well, well...the trailer is good and looks good. Sure, is generic, trying to generate hype for people who doesn't realy know mass effect. I don't have any issues with that; ME3 trailer and the real game, they are leagues apart. At least this time is tied with the general theme.
It almost makes me buy the game on the first week of the launch. Almost.
For now, I'll still buy the game in december, with the patches, first DLCs and possible discount.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 28, 2017 0:35:28 GMT
Hey, it just occurred to me there's another thing that's been bothering me about ME:A, though admittedly it's a bit silly. Everyone is too damn young! All these guys look like they barely left high school! Another Hollywood Syndrome, hehe. Ryder is young, 22. Liam is probably a couple years older, Cora could be 30. I don't think Peebee and Vetra are that young, they're likely around Shepard's age (of course, in the respective species' comparison) when the game started. Drack is likely the oldest krogan we ever met, according to the site. it is not futile...it's a pretty significant logical fallacy.
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 28, 2017 0:37:32 GMT
Ryder is young, 22. Liam is probably a couple years older, Cora could be 30. I don't think Peebee and Vetra are that young, they're likely around Shepard's age (of course, in the respective species' comparison) when the game started. Drack is likely the oldest krogan we ever met, according to the site. it is not futile...it's a pretty significant logical fallacy. Sorry, but I don't understand your point. I never said anything about futile, and I don't see the logical fallacy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 0:37:37 GMT
Well, well...the trailer is good and looks good. Sure, is generic, trying to generate hype for people who doesn't realy know mass effect. I don't have any issues with that; ME3 trailer and the real game, they are leagues apart. At least this time is tied with the general theme. It almost makes me buy the game on the first week of the launch. Almost. For now, I'll still buy the game in december, with the patches, first DLCs and possible discount. You'll probably get a better first experience with the game that way compared to those of us who lack patience and want to play the game as soon as possible.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 28, 2017 0:39:42 GMT
it is not futile...it's a pretty significant logical fallacy. Sorry, but I don't understand your point. I never said anything about futile, and I don't see the logical fallacy. motherf... Quoted the wrong post
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 28, 2017 0:40:19 GMT
Sorry, but I don't understand your point. I never said anything about futile, and I don't see the logical fallacy. motherf... Quoted the wrong post Ah, got it. It happens sometimes
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Jan 28, 2017 1:04:10 GMT
Everyone looks like they're wearing jammies. Nobody's wearing a goddamn helmet, space or otherwise. This is a pet peeve of mine. Male Ryder's voice. It makes me want to punch his face. Cora's hair. Goddamn it. Again with haircuts that look like Dubstep Skrillex buzzcut sideburns. Wtf Bioware? And Liam's entire face and head at 1:21 makes me feel embarrassed to look at him. That being said, I'm honestly looking forward to this to see if Bioware learned anything from the first three games. I'm kind of getting sick of people dissing my IRL haircut (it's very Cora like) #stopthehate #haircutshavefeelingstoo Also, you're embarrassed to look at an amazingly hot and well designed bro like Liam, I find that odd....
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 28, 2017 1:55:35 GMT
Everyone looks like they're wearing jammies. Nobody's wearing a goddamn helmet, space or otherwise. This is a pet peeve of mine. Male Ryder's voice. It makes me want to punch his face. Cora's hair. Goddamn it. Again with haircuts that look like Dubstep Skrillex buzzcut sideburns. Wtf Bioware? And Liam's entire face and head at 1:21 makes me feel embarrassed to look at him. That being said, I'm honestly looking forward to this to see if Bioware learned anything from the first three games. I'm kind of getting sick of people dissing my IRL haircut (it's very Cora like) #stopthehate #haircutshavefeelingstoo Also, you're embarrassed to look at an amazingly hot and well designed bro like Liam, I find that odd.... I honestly thought that Cora's hair was freaking awesome! I'm was going into MEA wanting to romance the most adorable lesbian alien first with my SisRyder. Now I'm just hoping that Cora is bisexual. I guess even if she's not, at least that gives me something to look forward to for my BroRyder playthrough!
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 2:01:33 GMT
Sorry, but I don't understand your point. I never said anything about futile, and I don't see the logical fallacy. motherf... Quoted the wrong post I've seriously almost done that myself. Like when you click but something finished loading and the screen shifts.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Jan 28, 2017 2:04:19 GMT
I'm kind of getting sick of people dissing my IRL haircut (it's very Cora like) #stopthehate #haircutshavefeelingstoo Also, you're embarrassed to look at an amazingly hot and well designed bro like Liam, I find that odd.... I honestly thought that Cora's hair was freaking awesome! I'm was going into MEA wanting to romance the most adorable lesbian alien first with my SisRyder. Now I'm just hoping that Cora is bisexual. I guess even if she's not, at least that gives me something to look forward to for my BroRyder playthrough! I find it sexy as hell, and I'm honestly losing faith in a bunch of humanity with the uproar I'm seeing all over the extranet about her "butch" and "agenda derived" haircut....it's people looking to poke holes in BioWare for absolutely anything, fucking ridiculous sometimes these hoomans! I know girls with this haircut, my sister has this haircut, my best mate's new GF has this haircut and it's super hot: I've got this dang haircut lol....it's just a haircut and people are jumping on it like BioWare are trying to make some SJW statement with it, jesus people can irritate my quad sometimes. Aesthetically, this merry band of space adventurers could possibly be my fave looking ME squad out the gate...and I'm not even joking
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