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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 17:07:11 GMT
So now that most have finished their Jaal romance (damn, some of you play really fast) What does everyone think would make the romance better and what would you add? Unless you already consider it perfect. I would add some more emotion when Ryder dies for the second time. Add a repeatable kiss scene like DA. I would've also liked to learn a little more about Angara culture from Jaal himself. See the gift giving scene. EDIT: to answer jewlie's question, as for my own personal headcanon with Jaal? They take apart guns and practice shooting together regularly. I would've liked more hobby sharing honestly. I really want this in Andromeda! I think in a lot of relationships it ends as soon as it begins (it really feels that way with Sara/Vetra) and I would love a repeatable scene of some kind. It seems like Peebee got a repeatable flirt option in dialogue and I am super jealous of that. Plus it just makes sense because you can continue playing past the story for a long time.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 10, 2017 17:09:33 GMT
Onecrazymonkey1 the more I think about it, I am pretty sure loverboy Jaal was meant to be a romance focused companion more than anything else, that's why he lacked Angaran knowledge. Most of his story is connected to his romance, and you get the most out of it by choosing him. As just a friend, it's sweet, but lacking majorly. It reminds me of Solas, yet with Solas it was easy to romance others and still feel close to him as a friend. Jaal is all about the romance. Yeah I think that's the only thing that bother's me. I can't remember who said it exactly (SableRhapsody?) but someone mentioned before that he is that exact opposite of Tali from Mass Effect 1 who was a walking codex. I'm not complaining as I love his romance, just wish that more was balanced into it a bit. So now that most have finished their Jaal romance (damn, some of you play really fast) What does everyone think would make the romance better and what would you add? Unless you already consider it perfect. I would add some more emotion when Ryder dies for the second time. Add a repeatable kiss scene like DA. I would've also liked to learn a little more about Angara culture from Jaal himself. See the gift giving scene. EDIT: to answer jewlie's question, as for my own personal headcanon with Jaal? They take apart guns and practice shooting together regularly. I would've liked more hobby sharing honestly. I really want this in Andromeda! I think in a lot of relationships it ends as soon as it begins (it really feels that way with Sara/Vetra) and I would love a repeatable seen of some kind. It seems like Peebee got a repeatable flirt option in dialogue and I am super jealous of that. Plus it just makes sense because you can continue playing past the story for a long time. Yes! Most Bioware romance's are all about falling in love and once you finally get to being in a relationship it's already over. I guess that' what helps make romances like Garrus and Liara so compelling for people. If Bioware does make another Andromeda hopefully the romances will continue and are not ignored.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 17:15:48 GMT
Onecrazymonkey1 the more I think about it, I am pretty sure loverboy Jaal was meant to be a romance focused companion more than anything else, that's why he lacked Angaran knowledge. Most of his story is connected to his romance, and you get the most out of it by choosing him. As just a friend, it's sweet, but lacking majorly. It reminds me of Solas, yet with Solas it was easy to romance others and still feel close to him as a friend. Jaal is all about the romance. Yeah I think that's the only thing that bother's me. I can't remember who said it exactly (SableRhapsody?) but someone mentioned before that he is that exact opposite of Tali from Mass Effect 1 who was a walking codex. I'm not complaining as I love his romance, just wish that more was balanced into it a bit. Yep! The potential for him to be a true envoy took a backseat to making him the new species LI. Want to learn about the Kett? Evfra. Angaran culture? Shie. Remnant and history? The Moshae and Avela. Jaal's there to show you firsthand Angaran emotions. I love the idea there's more people to talk to and it's not just Jaal, but sometimes I think there's actual content that was cut maybe? Like Jaal had a bigger role and it was changed at the last minute to something more simple perhaps?
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 10, 2017 17:24:56 GMT
Yeah I think that's the only thing that bother's me. I can't remember who said it exactly (SableRhapsody?) but someone mentioned before that he is that exact opposite of Tali from Mass Effect 1 who was a walking codex. I'm not complaining as I love his romance, just wish that more was balanced into it a bit. Yep! The potential for him to be a true envoy took a backseat to making him the new species LI. Want to learn about the Kett? Evfra. Angaran culture? Shie. Remnant and history? The Moshae. Jaal's there to show you firsthand Angaran emotions. I love the idea there's more people to talk to and it's not just Jaal, but sometimes I think there's actual content that was cut maybe? Like Jaal had a bigger role and it was changed at the last minute to something more simple perhaps? It's always a possibility that it was cut out but I would have to wonder why. I always found it strange that of all the things Jaal talks about, most of the topics you mentioned are not on his list. For example I would take out the snoring with peebee convo, or a few flirts etc. and maybe put in a discussion about archaeology, or more information on Angaran society. *shrugs* I guess this is one of the reasons why you say it feels like he was written as a romance first. Well, here's for hoping there is more to come!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 17:36:59 GMT
Yep! The potential for him to be a true envoy took a backseat to making him the new species LI. Want to learn about the Kett? Evfra. Angaran culture? Shie. Remnant and history? The Moshae. Jaal's there to show you firsthand Angaran emotions. I love the idea there's more people to talk to and it's not just Jaal, but sometimes I think there's actual content that was cut maybe? Like Jaal had a bigger role and it was changed at the last minute to something more simple perhaps? It's always a possibility that it was cut out but I would have to wonder why. I always found it strange that of all the things Jaal talks about, most of the topics you mentioned are not on his list. For example I would take out the snoring with peebee convo, or a few flirts etc. and maybe put in a discussion about archaeology, or more information on Angaran society. *shrugs* I guess this is one of the reasons why you say it feels like he was written as a romance first. Well, here's for hoping there is more to come! Yeah I mean we can always talk about something new with the other squadmates. Drack talks about Spender. Vetra talks about the Ark. Cora shares military stories. PeeBee talks about Remnant and the crew like Gil and Kallo. Liam takes a bit of time, but you can even hang and have beers with him. Jaal's stuff can only be gone through once and the only time you get a new option is to start the romance.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 10, 2017 17:51:36 GMT
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Post by dalinne on Jun 10, 2017 17:51:40 GMT
Best mission quote from Jaal:
"YOU ALWAYS GIVE THE GUN TO THE MOTHER!" (baby Addison's best friend quest. I couldn't stop laughing and applauding)
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 10, 2017 17:52:21 GMT
Another topic: what type of content would you like to see from jaal in the future?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 17:52:35 GMT
Best mission quote from Jaal: "YOU ALWAYS GIVE THE GUN TO THE MOTHER!" (baby Addison's best friend quest. I couldn't stop laughing and applauding) Someday I'll get that quest done.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 10, 2017 17:54:30 GMT
Best mission quote from Jaal: "YOU ALWAYS GIVE THE GUN TO THE MOTHER!" (baby Addison's best friend quest. I couldn't stop laughing and applauding) I love that mission hahah
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 17:54:52 GMT
Another topic: what type of content would you like to see from jaal in the future? Learn more about his life. Why he was thrown out for being a terrible student, why did he and Akksul not see eye-to-eye, more about his time in the Resistance (back stories like Cora's). Get to talk with his mother more. Maybe a Cullen-like marriage if I'm not sick of his romance by then.
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Post by Solas on Jun 10, 2017 17:56:45 GMT
Best mission quote from Jaal: "YOU ALWAYS GIVE THE GUN TO THE MOTHER!" (baby Addison's best friend quest. I couldn't stop laughing and applauding) I love that mission hahah i want to broach the topic of how my ryder never wants any flubs (sry sahuna)
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 10, 2017 17:57:41 GMT
Another topic: what type of content would you like to see from jaal in the future? Learn more about his life. Why he was thrown out for being a terrible student, why did he and Akksul not see eye-to-eye, more about his time in the Resistance (back stories like Cora's). Get to talk with his mother more. Maybe a Cullen-like marriage if I'm not sick of his romance by then.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 17:59:00 GMT
Learn more about his life. Why he was thrown out for being a terrible student, why did he and Akksul not see eye-to-eye, more about his time in the Resistance (back stories like Cora's). Get to talk with his mother more. Maybe a Cullen-like marriage if I'm not sick of his romance by then. It happened with Solas. No lie. I romanced him a lot and because of how long it took for Trespasser, I was done and ended up on a non-romance playthrough for my first time. I hope the MEA DLC comes out sooner than 2 years from now. That's my worry.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 10, 2017 18:00:22 GMT
I love that mission hahah i want to broach the topic of how my ryder never wants any flubs (sry sahuna) yeah, people are speculating she take about human birthing cause she is just interested after having a million kids , but she does come on strong. There should of been like a dialogue with gil when he asks about kids that Ryder is like "I'm a man child/actual 12 year old gurl I can't handle kids. "Or something along the lines lul
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 10, 2017 18:02:02 GMT
It happened with Solas. No lie. I romanced him a lot and because of how long it took for Trespasser, I was done and ended up on a non-romance playthrough for my first time. I hope the MEA DLC comes out sooner than 2 years from now. That's my worry. Nothing wrong with variety tbh. I always switch up my romances but for Solas it took a long time (granted I romanced Cullen in between Solas like... twice?) but most of my PTs were Solas. Then after Trespasser, I romanced Sera and IB as well. Solas is still my favorite with Sera being A close second
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Post by kestrel on Jun 10, 2017 18:07:19 GMT
I love that mission hahah i want to broach the topic of how my ryder never wants any flubs (sry sahuna) Saammme. Sahuna you seem very nice but you got other kids to give you grandbabbies.
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It happened with Solas. No lie. I romanced him a lot and because of how long it took for Trespasser, I was done and ended up on a non-romance playthrough for my first time. I hope the MEA DLC comes out sooner than 2 years from now. That's my worry. Nothing wrong with variety tbh. I always switch up my romances but for Solas it took a long time (granted I romanced Cullen in between Solas like... twice?) but most of my PTs were Solas. Then after Trespasser, I romanced Sera and IB as well. Solas is still my favorite with Sera being A close second Iron Bull was my first, then Cullen and then Solas. I got hooked because of Solas' story and how the romance connected to it, but the wait killed my hype. I thought E3 might talk about MEA DLC, but it seems it's that new IP they will be talking about. Also every first time LI in a BW game I played has always been bi. Zevran Fenris Iron Bull Thane (cut) Jaal It's weird but they always treat females better than straight men (not counting Cullen and Garrus).
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Post by stheryss on Jun 10, 2017 18:13:14 GMT
If my bbys here don't mind, I Want to try to bring us back on topic. I'm sure it's been discussed before but with the new patch I thought we could touch on it again so everyone can be included. Discussion: Are there any personal headcannons you have for Jaal? Be I just him, his romantic relationship with ryder, or their friendship? Anything! I'm sappy. Definitely headcannon that Jaal starts falling for Ryder at first sight. And the feeling scares him (at first). :I
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 10, 2017 18:19:02 GMT
Nothing wrong with variety tbh. I always switch up my romances but for Solas it took a long time (granted I romanced Cullen in between Solas like... twice?) but most of my PTs were Solas. Then after Trespasser, I romanced Sera and IB as well. Solas is still my favorite with Sera being A close second Iron Bull was my first, then Cullen and then Solas. I got hooked because of Solas' story and how the romance connected to it, but the wait killed my hype. I thought E3 might talk about MEA DLC, but it seems it's that new IP they will be talking about. Also every first time LI in a BW game I played has always been bi. Zevran Fenris Iron Bull Thane (cut) Jaal It's weird but they always treat females better than straight men (not counting Cullen and Garrus). Maybe it's Solas' relevance to the story but his romance is so fulfilling even tho I'm pretty sure it has the least amount of content of all the actual Romances lol
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 10, 2017 18:19:24 GMT
If my bbys here don't mind, I Want to try to bring us back on topic. I'm sure it's been discussed before but with the new patch I thought we could touch on it again so everyone can be included. Discussion: Are there any personal headcannons you have for Jaal? Be I just him, his romantic relationship with ryder, or their friendship? Anything! I'm sappy. Definitely headcannon that Jaal starts falling for Ryder at first sight. And the feeling scares him (at first). :I Aww das so cute :pinches your cheeks:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 18:20:37 GMT
Iron Bull was my first, then Cullen and then Solas. I got hooked because of Solas' story and how the romance connected to it, but the wait killed my hype. I thought E3 might talk about MEA DLC, but it seems it's that new IP they will be talking about. Also every first time LI in a BW game I played has always been bi. Zevran Fenris Iron Bull Thane (cut) Jaal It's weird but they always treat females better than straight men (not counting Cullen and Garrus). Maybe it's Solas' relevance to the story but his romance is so fulfilling even tho I'm pretty sure it has the least amount of content of all the actual Romances lol Yeah I give props to his actor for making us fall for that annoying, bald, lying elf!!! I still remember when Jaal fans were being teased that Jaal would be the next Solas.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 18:22:09 GMT
If my bbys here don't mind, I Want to try to bring us back on topic. I'm sure it's been discussed before but with the new patch I thought we could touch on it again so everyone can be included. Discussion: Are there any personal headcannons you have for Jaal? Be I just him, his romantic relationship with ryder, or their friendship? Anything! I'm sappy. Definitely headcannon that Jaal starts falling for Ryder at first sight. And the feeling scares him (at first). :I Yep! When I saw his intro scene for the first time, the way he smiled at my Sara, I just knew.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 10, 2017 18:24:04 GMT
If my bbys here don't mind, I Want to try to bring us back on topic. I'm sure it's been discussed before but with the new patch I thought we could touch on it again so everyone can be included. Discussion: Are there any personal headcannons you have for Jaal? Be I just him, his romantic relationship with ryder, or their friendship? Anything! I'm sappy. Definitely headcannon that Jaal starts falling for Ryder at first sight. And the feeling scares him (at first). :I Just like all of us! (Except I was never scared. I knew what I wanted. It took me two extra months, but I received the glorious bounty of Jaal's affections.)
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Um... did they change their outfits? HAHAHAHAAAAA OMG THEY DID! They look so doofy now! :lmfao:
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