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Post by naytnavare on Feb 25, 2017 5:03:23 GMT
Sorry. Still annoyed with a certain comic publisher and their retcons. D: Ahhh Iceman? Cuz I gotta say I think that was prettty stupid of Marvel. Anole was best boy. WINK. Got it in one. If someone has never had their sexuality explored (D-Man) or whom their sexuality was always in question (Harley Quinn) is revealed as gay? Cool beans. Have at it. I mean, D-Man certainly came off as more 'look how progressive we are' but still. Iceman had relationships with women in ever iteration, for over forty years, and close to fiddy... Not the way to handle inclusion. Neither here nor there, mind. For point of topic, though, Kaidan was fine, to me. He was never shown to be straight, only, and it wasn't something that had been established, repeatedly, over 4 decades.
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Post by megs80 on Feb 25, 2017 5:08:28 GMT
Hi everyone, been sick lately trying to catch up on the thread. I've noticed there has been a few account deletions in a relatively short period of time Both quite active on the forum. (Prince E and milanawalters) Without prying are they OK? Are you all OK? The tone of the thread feels... strained. (more so then when I was last here anyway ) Yeah, there's been a lot of tension. I hope they're doing alright. Without restarting anything (This may be a loaded question) but frustration with marketing or User disputes? Hanako and Kimberly said That Prince E at least seems to be feeling a bit better.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 25, 2017 5:13:02 GMT
Yeah, there's been a lot of tension. I hope they're doing alright. Without restarting anything (This may be a loaded question) but frustration with marketing or User disputes? Hanako and Kimberly said That Prince E at least seems seems to be feeling a bit better. Sort of a combination of both. I think it might be my fault. I shouldn't have forwarded my friend's info, but I figured it would be better for people who pre-ordered the game to know what they're getting into. Now, it's just caused chaos, and I'm not even 100% on if the info is all true.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 25, 2017 5:21:12 GMT
Without restarting anything (This may be a loaded question) but frustration with marketing or User disputes? Hanako and Kimberly said That Prince E at least seems seems to be feeling a bit better. Sort of a combination of both. I think it might be my fault. I shouldn't have forwarded my friend's info, but I figured it would be better for people who pre-ordered the game to know what they're getting into. Now, it's just caused chaos, and I'm not even 100% on if the info is all true. It's not your fault, it's devs fault and their stupid and exclusive silence policy regarding LGBTQ male LIs. If those leaks happen to be true I want to be prepared, and not to have my hopes crushed one/two days after launch date. So don't feel bad!!!
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Post by jediguardian on Feb 25, 2017 5:22:06 GMT
Just want to say something.
- I don't know why Sci-Fi game like Mass Effect alway have issue about Gay Character While Fantasy/Period game like Dragon Age and Jade Empire always have option. - I want Liam to be Gay/Bi because I only interest in Human male. BUT If Jaal/Drack is available insead, I still ok... at least Gay/Bi male have spot on Squadmate. - I don't mind about Nudity Sex Scene. EXCEPT Gay romance is the only one that fade to black. - I already preorder MEA and I will not cancel it. At least Bioware not force me to play Staright in their game like another game did. - BUT If Bi/Gay Male have 0 on Squadmate and Gay Romance is the only one that fade to black in MEA , I will reconsider about pay to play Next Mass Effect Game.
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Post by Crim on Feb 25, 2017 5:22:07 GMT
Without restarting anything (This may be a loaded question) but frustration with marketing or User disputes? Hanako and Kimberly said That Prince E at least seems seems to be feeling a bit better. Sort of a combination of both. I think it might be my fault. I shouldn't have forwarded my friend's info, but I figured it would be better for people who pre-ordered the game to know what they're getting into. Now, it's just caused chaos, and I'm not even 100% on if the info is all true. If only Bioware released all the choices officially, this is a drawn out mess.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 5:26:01 GMT
Sort of a combination of both. I think it might be my fault. I shouldn't have forwarded my friend's info, but I figured it would be better for people who pre-ordered the game to know what they're getting into. Now, it's just caused chaos, and I'm not even 100% on if the info is all true. It's not your fault, it's devs fault and their stupid and exclusive silence policy regarding LGBTQ male LIs. If those leaks happen to be true I want to be prepared, and not to have my hopes crushed one/two days after launch date. So don't feel bad!!! oh god, This. I'm relieved I've been given time to digest it. If I'd gone several more weeks thinking my Scott was going to get with Jaal (thanks to a leak that I guess has turned out to be fake) and just falling more and more in love with the character every day... ugh... getting flashbacks of Cullen circa 2012-2015. No, it's way better to get your options ahead of time. I mean it's just better for your poor heart.
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Post by megs80 on Feb 25, 2017 5:27:56 GMT
Without restarting anything (This may be a loaded question) but frustration with marketing or User disputes? Hanako and Kimberly said That Prince E at least seems seems to be feeling a bit better. Sort of a combination of both. I think it might be my fault. I shouldn't have forwarded my friend's info, but I figured it would be better for people who pre-ordered the game to know what they're getting into. Now, it's just caused chaos, and I'm not even 100% on if the info is all true. I assume you mean the info you said you didn't want to spread in case of it causing problems earlier in the thread? If that's the case you have no reason to be sorry. You stated clearly that you were not certain of the info (for varying reasons) and did not wish to mislead or worry people. If people pm'd or asked you to elaborate then they wanted the details, it's not your fault the information wasn't what people wanted. Besides neither of those Users seemed the types to leave because of bad news, they seemed like they would be active voices in the critical feedback to Bioware in that case. It's why I was surprised that they suddenly disappeared.
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Post by Sarayne on Feb 25, 2017 5:30:44 GMT
To whomever suggested we play a VN if we want gay romance so bad, If you can find me a Mass Effect VN where I can romance male Turians, Krogan, Salarians and Angara as a guy.. By all means point me to it. Funny you should say this because i have ran out of good yuri vns to read... It's just really sad
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 25, 2017 5:31:37 GMT
Just want to say something. - I don't know why Sci-Fi game like Mass Effect alway have issue about Gay Character While Fantasy/Period game like Dragon Age and Jade Empire always have option. - I want Liam to be Gay/Bi because I only interest in Human male. BUT If Jaal/Drack is available insead, I still ok... at least Gay/Bi male have spot on Squadmate. - I don't mind about Nudity Sex Scene. EXCEPT Gay romance is the only one that fade to black. - I already preorder MEA and I will not cancel it. At least Bioware not force me to play Staright in their game like another game did. - BUT If Bi/Gay Male have 0 on Squadmate and Gay Romance is the only one that fade to black in MEA , I will reconsider about pay to play Next Mass Effect Game. Yeah, I find it so strange that the writing team for DA, a medieval fantasy franchise, ended up being a lot more gay than ME, a sci-fi franchise. If anything, Mass Effect should logically be even gayer than Dragon Age. It's the future, where people are a lot more accepting and supposedly stuff like homophobia and racism and sexism are pretty much over among humans. In that environment, there would be a lot more LGBT people in general. On top of that, you'd have all these aliens with their own cultures that might approach LGBT stuff way differently (especially with the Asari). Honestly, it probably comes down to the demographics. Mass Effect as a franchise ended up more popular with mostly straight male gamerbro types who want to play a macho straight man that has lots of sex with alien babes. Dragon Age lost a lot of its initial gamerbro fanbase and earned more female fans overall, many of whom aren't straight anyways. Furthermore, Dragon Age had Gaider, an openly gay man, as a head writer, so he was willing to write stuff that many straight male writers in the video game industry just wouldn't.
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Post by not so salty shark on Feb 25, 2017 5:43:16 GMT
Without restarting anything (This may be a loaded question) but frustration with marketing or User disputes? Hanako and Kimberly said That Prince E at least seems seems to be feeling a bit better. Sort of a combination of both. I think it might be my fault. I shouldn't have forwarded my friend's info, but I figured it would be better for people who pre-ordered the game to know what they're getting into. Now, it's just caused chaos, and I'm not even 100% on if the info is all true. I for one absolutely thank you for your information. 1.) If it's accurate (and sadly my intuition thinks it is, 100%), it's certainly not your fault that the devs made some extremely unfortunate choices regarding M/M romantic content. 2.) It gave me time to cancel my pre-order (I can always reinstate it if my faith is restored, and that's a big IF at this point). A person whom I will not name did get one thing right when he responded to me -- that my own personal boycott won't affect anything significantly -- but what it will do is give me peace of mind that I was not a settler (like the subject of that corny series of DIRECTV commercials), or an enabler of bad decisions. TL;DR Without your information a bomb of infinitely greater magnitude may have very well been dropped on me.
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Post by zaefkol on Feb 25, 2017 5:54:26 GMT
Just want to say something. - I don't know why Sci-Fi game like Mass Effect alway have issue about Gay Character While Fantasy/Period game like Dragon Age and Jade Empire always have option. - I want Liam to be Gay/Bi because I only interest in Human male. BUT If Jaal/Drack is available insead, I still ok... at least Gay/Bi male have spot on Squadmate. - I don't mind about Nudity Sex Scene. EXCEPT Gay romance is the only one that fade to black. - I already preorder MEA and I will not cancel it. At least Bioware not force me to play Staright in their game like another game did. - BUT If Bi/Gay Male have 0 on Squadmate and Gay Romance is the only one that fade to black in MEA , I will reconsider about pay to play Next Mass Effect Game. Yeah, I find it so strange that the writing team for DA, a medieval fantasy franchise, ended up being a lot more gay than ME, a sci-fi franchise. If anything, Mass Effect should logically be even gayer than Dragon Age. It's the future, where people are a lot more accepting and supposedly stuff like homophobia and racism and sexism are pretty much over among humans. In that environment, there would be a lot more LGBT people in general. On top of that, you'd have all these aliens with their own cultures that might approach LGBT stuff way differently (especially with the Asari).
Honestly, it probably comes down to the demographics. Mass Effect as a franchise ended up more popular with mostly straight male gamerbro types who want to play a macho straight man that has lots of sex with alien babes. Dragon Age lost a lot of its initial gamerbro fanbase and earned more female fans overall, many of whom aren't straight anyways. Furthermore, Dragon Age had Gaider, an openly gay man, as a head writer, so he was willing to write stuff that many straight male writers in the video game industry just wouldn't. This reminds me. The Asari. I don't like them.
I don't mean as characters or as a species, but as a concept.
I'm fine with individual characters finding the Asari attractive, and I happy for those of any orientation who get the opportunity to romance hot alien space babes because of them; but there is a problem.
As shown by the bachelor party on Illium in Mass Effect 2, Asari are supposed to present themselves in a way that is generally seen to be attractive by all those who view them. (Something that is hard to comprehend when taking into account the existence of non-living Asari images like Avina, but whatever.)
It's just annoying to me that every time a Bioware game has made a species that's supposed to represent some sort of universal desire that every character in the world can gravitate towards, the Asari in Mass Effect and Desire Demons in Dragon Age, it happens be modeled after the female form.
The games often present these characters in a way that says, "I'm so sexy, look at me in all my sexy." And I'm just like, "Yeah, nope." It breaks immersion for me a bit when the game world tells me that everyone in that world should like a thing that run explicitly counter to what my character would actually like.
It would be nice if, for once, we had an embodiment of desire that presented as male. An incubus to balance out the traditional succubus.
Well, Andromeda is a different galaxy, and maybe in a future game we'll get a masculine-looking mono-gendered species to pursue as a LI. I doubt it, but maybe.
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Post by megs80 on Feb 25, 2017 6:00:12 GMT
Just want to say something. - I don't know why Sci-Fi game like Mass Effect alway have issue about Gay Character While Fantasy/Period game like Dragon Age and Jade Empire always have option. - I want Liam to be Gay/Bi because I only interest in Human male. BUT If Jaal/Drack is available insead, I still ok... at least Gay/Bi male have spot on Squadmate. - I don't mind about Nudity Sex Scene. EXCEPT Gay romance is the only one that fade to black. - I already preorder MEA and I will not cancel it. At least Bioware not force me to play Staright in their game like another game did. - BUT If Bi/Gay Male have 0 on Squadmate and Gay Romance is the only one that fade to black in MEA , I will reconsider about pay to play Next Mass Effect Game. Yeah, I find it so strange that the writing team for DA, a medieval fantasy franchise, ended up being a lot more gay than ME, a sci-fi franchise. If anything, Mass Effect should logically be even gayer than Dragon Age. It's the future, where people are a lot more accepting and supposedly stuff like homophobia and racism and sexism are pretty much over among humans. In that environment, there would be a lot more LGBT people in general. On top of that, you'd have all these aliens with their own cultures that might approach LGBT stuff way differently (especially with the Asari). Honestly, it probably comes down to the demographics. Mass Effect as a franchise ended up more popular with mostly straight male gamerbro types who want to play a macho straight man that has lots of sex with alien babes. Dragon Age lost a lot of its initial gamerbro fanbase and earned more female fans overall, many of whom aren't straight anyways. Furthermore, Dragon Age had Gaider, an openly gay man, as a head writer, so he was willing to write stuff that many straight male writers in the video game industry just wouldn't. There does seem to be trends in certain genres. I strangely often end up in groups of people who are often a very different demographic to me, this has never proven a problem though our interests tend to diverge wildly If someone is willing to put up with me they aren't fazed by a difference of opinion/preference. Strange creature that I am someone doesn't need to share a view point to be tolerant of it. I've noticed that amongst my friends the ones that struggled with fantasy/ sci-fi the most the common criticism was the suspension of disbelief required. Fantasy more so than sci-fi, Their tastes I have been lead to believe are more in line with mainstream media, so Perhaps sci-fi suffers more complaints simply because it reaches more individuals with those values?
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 25, 2017 6:10:39 GMT
Yeah, I find it so strange that the writing team for DA, a medieval fantasy franchise, ended up being a lot more gay than ME, a sci-fi franchise. If anything, Mass Effect should logically be even gayer than Dragon Age. It's the future, where people are a lot more accepting and supposedly stuff like homophobia and racism and sexism are pretty much over among humans. In that environment, there would be a lot more LGBT people in general. On top of that, you'd have all these aliens with their own cultures that might approach LGBT stuff way differently (especially with the Asari).
Honestly, it probably comes down to the demographics. Mass Effect as a franchise ended up more popular with mostly straight male gamerbro types who want to play a macho straight man that has lots of sex with alien babes. Dragon Age lost a lot of its initial gamerbro fanbase and earned more female fans overall, many of whom aren't straight anyways. Furthermore, Dragon Age had Gaider, an openly gay man, as a head writer, so he was willing to write stuff that many straight male writers in the video game industry just wouldn't. This reminds me. The Asari. I don't like them.
I don't mean as characters or as a species, but as a concept.
I'm fine with individual characters finding the Asari attractive, and I happy for those of any orientation who get the opportunity to romance hot alien space babes because of them; but there is a problem.
As shown by the bachelor party on Illium in Mass Effect 2, Asari are supposed to present themselves in a way that is generally seen to be attractive by all those who view them. (Something that is hard to comprehend when taking into account the existence of non-living Asari images like Avina, but whatever.)
It's just annoying to me that every time a Bioware game has made a species that's supposed to represent some sort of universal desire that every character in the world can gravitate towards, the Asari in Mass Effect and Desire Demons in Dragon Age, it happens be modeled after the female form.
The games often present these characters in a way that says, "I'm so sexy, look at me in all my sexy." And I'm just like, "Yeah, nope." It breaks immersion for me a bit when the game world tells me that everyone in that world should like a thing that run explicitly counter to what my character would actually like.
It would be nice if, for once, we had an embodiment of desire that presented as male. An incubus to balance out the traditional succubus.
Well, Andromeda is a different galaxy, and maybe in a future game we'll get a masculine-looking mono-gendered species to pursue as a LI. I doubt it, but maybe.
I want to think this is 'due' to the idea of females being linked, historically and in most lore and legend and myth, to beauty. Or that the 'welcoming touch' of soft femininity is the 'coaxing agent' that keeps them being used as the 'desire' object. But I know it's BS. That many men either can't find other men attractive, or they are scared they might, and not know what that means. I'm a straight male, but I want my fictional men as handsome as I want my women 'hot'. Sure, give me my Asari, with feminine jaw, inviting curves and beckoning eyes. But damn it, MY GUY BETTER HAVE PERFECT FACE SCRUFF, DEEP BLUE EYES AND MORE ABS THAN I CAN COUNT. I don't find it bad to 'overpretty' someone. But 'overpretty' and put everyone on a platter, damn it. Equality means pretty men. PRETTY. MEN.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 25, 2017 6:11:26 GMT
Yeah, I find it so strange that the writing team for DA, a medieval fantasy franchise, ended up being a lot more gay than ME, a sci-fi franchise. If anything, Mass Effect should logically be even gayer than Dragon Age. It's the future, where people are a lot more accepting and supposedly stuff like homophobia and racism and sexism are pretty much over among humans. In that environment, there would be a lot more LGBT people in general. On top of that, you'd have all these aliens with their own cultures that might approach LGBT stuff way differently (especially with the Asari). Honestly, it probably comes down to the demographics. Mass Effect as a franchise ended up more popular with mostly straight male gamerbro types who want to play a macho straight man that has lots of sex with alien babes. Dragon Age lost a lot of its initial gamerbro fanbase and earned more female fans overall, many of whom aren't straight anyways. Furthermore, Dragon Age had Gaider, an openly gay man, as a head writer, so he was willing to write stuff that many straight male writers in the video game industry just wouldn't. There does seem to be trends in certain genres. I strangely often end up in groups of people who are often a very different demographic to me, this has never proven a problem though our interests tend to diverge wildly If someone is willing to put up with me they aren't fazed by a difference of opinion/preference. Strange creature that I am someone doesn't need to share a view point to be tolerant of it. I've noticed that amongst my friends the ones that struggled with fantasy/ sci-fi the most the common criticism was the suspension of disbelief required. Fantasy more so than sci-fi, Their tastes I have been lead to believe are more in line with mainstream media, so Perhaps sci-fi suffers more complaints simply because it reaches more individuals with those values? That could be one explanation. I just find it so bizarre, since you'd think that people into sci-fi would be more open-minded. If they aren't open to new, creative ways of looking at the future, even if it happens to diverge from what they're comfortable with, then why get into Speculative Fiction at all?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 25, 2017 6:12:41 GMT
Yeah, I find it so strange that the writing team for DA, a medieval fantasy franchise, ended up being a lot more gay than ME, a sci-fi franchise. If anything, Mass Effect should logically be even gayer than Dragon Age. It's the future, where people are a lot more accepting and supposedly stuff like homophobia and racism and sexism are pretty much over among humans. In that environment, there would be a lot more LGBT people in general. On top of that, you'd have all these aliens with their own cultures that might approach LGBT stuff way differently (especially with the Asari).
Honestly, it probably comes down to the demographics. Mass Effect as a franchise ended up more popular with mostly straight male gamerbro types who want to play a macho straight man that has lots of sex with alien babes. Dragon Age lost a lot of its initial gamerbro fanbase and earned more female fans overall, many of whom aren't straight anyways. Furthermore, Dragon Age had Gaider, an openly gay man, as a head writer, so he was willing to write stuff that many straight male writers in the video game industry just wouldn't. This reminds me. The Asari. I don't like them.
I don't mean as characters or as a species, but as a concept.
I'm fine with individual characters finding the Asari attractive, and I happy for those of any orientation who get the opportunity to romance hot alien space babes because of them; but there is a problem.
As shown by the bachelor party on Illium in Mass Effect 2, Asari are supposed to present themselves in a way that is generally seen to be attractive by all those who view them. (Something that is hard to comprehend when taking into account the existence of non-living Asari images like Avina, but whatever.)
It's just annoying to me that every time a Bioware game has made a species that's supposed to represent some sort of universal desire that every character in the world can gravitate towards, the Asari in Mass Effect and Desire Demons in Dragon Age, it happens be modeled after the female form.
The games often present these characters in a way that says, "I'm so sexy, look at me in all my sexy." And I'm just like, "Yeah, nope." It breaks immersion for me a bit when the game world tells me that everyone in that world should like a thing that run explicitly counter to what my character would actually like.
It would be nice if, for once, we had an embodiment of desire that presented as male. An incubus to balance out the traditional succubus.
Well, Andromeda is a different galaxy, and maybe in a future game we'll get a masculine-looking mono-gendered species to pursue as a LI. I doubt it, but maybe.
The bachelor party is not meant to be taken seriously. The asari only look how we know them as. This is proven by the fact we have pictures of them and they look exactly the same as our characters see them in person. And not everyone is attracted to them, for example Steve isn't, so it isn't like they can make everyone attracted to them.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 25, 2017 6:17:33 GMT
Yeah, I find it so strange that the writing team for DA, a medieval fantasy franchise, ended up being a lot more gay than ME, a sci-fi franchise. If anything, Mass Effect should logically be even gayer than Dragon Age. It's the future, where people are a lot more accepting and supposedly stuff like homophobia and racism and sexism are pretty much over among humans. In that environment, there would be a lot more LGBT people in general. On top of that, you'd have all these aliens with their own cultures that might approach LGBT stuff way differently (especially with the Asari).
Honestly, it probably comes down to the demographics. Mass Effect as a franchise ended up more popular with mostly straight male gamerbro types who want to play a macho straight man that has lots of sex with alien babes. Dragon Age lost a lot of its initial gamerbro fanbase and earned more female fans overall, many of whom aren't straight anyways. Furthermore, Dragon Age had Gaider, an openly gay man, as a head writer, so he was willing to write stuff that many straight male writers in the video game industry just wouldn't. This reminds me. The Asari. I don't like them.
I don't mean as characters or as a species, but as a concept.
I'm fine with individual characters finding the Asari attractive, and I happy for those of any orientation who get the opportunity to romance hot alien space babes because of them; but there is a problem.
As shown by the bachelor party on Illium in Mass Effect 2, Asari are supposed to present themselves in a way that is generally seen to be attractive by all those who view them. (Something that is hard to comprehend when taking into account the existence of non-living Asari images like Avina, but whatever.)
It's just annoying to me that every time a Bioware game has made a species that's supposed to represent some sort of universal desire that every character in the world can gravitate towards, the Asari in Mass Effect and Desire Demons in Dragon Age, it happens be modeled after the female form.
The games often present these characters in a way that says, "I'm so sexy, look at me in all my sexy." And I'm just like, "Yeah, nope." It breaks immersion for me a bit when the game world tells me that everyone in that world should like a thing that run explicitly counter to what my character would actually like.
It would be nice if, for once, we had an embodiment of desire that presented as male. An incubus to balance out the traditional succubus.
Well, Andromeda is a different galaxy, and maybe in a future game we'll get a masculine-looking mono-gendered species to pursue as a LI. I doubt it, but maybe.
Give me namekians and I'm settled for life I think the Asari are a great concept, they are literally the embodiment of female power, they don't even need a male to procreate, so as feminist I like them a lot, HOWEVER it's saddens me a lot that their creation purpose was just a bait for straight males, I usually don't think too much about it because it shows the nasty priorities in the first games, but it's the truth.
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Post by lurkinganon on Feb 25, 2017 6:22:17 GMT
APPARENTLY WE CAN INDEED FLIRT WITH KALLO. Skip to 2:24. It is mentioned passingly, briefly. Romance not confirmed. But. Flirt. Flirting? Flirt. [ CLEARS THROAT] Ah-hem. Excuse me. [ SCREAMS INTO A PILLOW] Oh but was it a joke and did he play as female Ryder. I hope it wasnt and I hope both Ryders can at least flirt extensively with Kallo. But I do like the idea of a "Let's Flirt" prompt, very simple solution to criticisms of "ninjamancing"
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Post by zaefkol on Feb 25, 2017 6:22:23 GMT
This reminds me. The Asari. I don't like them.
I don't mean as characters or as a species, but as a concept.
I'm fine with individual characters finding the Asari attractive, and I happy for those of any orientation who get the opportunity to romance hot alien space babes because of them; but there is a problem.
As shown by the bachelor party on Illium in Mass Effect 2, Asari are supposed to present themselves in a way that is generally seen to be attractive by all those who view them. (Something that is hard to comprehend when taking into account the existence of non-living Asari images like Avina, but whatever.)
It's just annoying to me that every time a Bioware game has made a species that's supposed to represent some sort of universal desire that every character in the world can gravitate towards, the Asari in Mass Effect and Desire Demons in Dragon Age, it happens be modeled after the female form.
The games often present these characters in a way that says, "I'm so sexy, look at me in all my sexy." And I'm just like, "Yeah, nope." It breaks immersion for me a bit when the game world tells me that everyone in that world should like a thing that run explicitly counter to what my character would actually like.
It would be nice if, for once, we had an embodiment of desire that presented as male. An incubus to balance out the traditional succubus.
Well, Andromeda is a different galaxy, and maybe in a future game we'll get a masculine-looking mono-gendered species to pursue as a LI. I doubt it, but maybe.
The bachelor party is not meant to be taken seriously. The asari only look how we know them as. This is proven by the fact we have pictures of them and they look exactly the same as our characters see them in person. And not everyone is attracted to them, for example Steve isn't, so it isn't like they can make everyone attracted to them. Point taken. But I still want my space incubus.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 6:24:19 GMT
This reminds me. The Asari. I don't like them.
I don't mean as characters or as a species, but as a concept.
I'm fine with individual characters finding the Asari attractive, and I happy for those of any orientation who get the opportunity to romance hot alien space babes because of them; but there is a problem.
As shown by the bachelor party on Illium in Mass Effect 2, Asari are supposed to present themselves in a way that is generally seen to be attractive by all those who view them. (Something that is hard to comprehend when taking into account the existence of non-living Asari images like Avina, but whatever.)
It's just annoying to me that every time a Bioware game has made a species that's supposed to represent some sort of universal desire that every character in the world can gravitate towards, the Asari in Mass Effect and Desire Demons in Dragon Age, it happens be modeled after the female form.
The games often present these characters in a way that says, "I'm so sexy, look at me in all my sexy." And I'm just like, "Yeah, nope." It breaks immersion for me a bit when the game world tells me that everyone in that world should like a thing that run explicitly counter to what my character would actually like.
It would be nice if, for once, we had an embodiment of desire that presented as male. An incubus to balance out the traditional succubus.
Well, Andromeda is a different galaxy, and maybe in a future game we'll get a masculine-looking mono-gendered species to pursue as a LI. I doubt it, but maybe.
Give me namekians and I'm settled for life [green alien thing snipped ] I think the Asari are a great concept, they are literally the embodiment of female power, they don't even need a male to procreate, so as feminist I like them a lot, HOWEVER it's saddens me a lot that their creation purpose was just a bait for straight males, I usually don't think too much about it because it shows the nasty priorities in the first games, but it's the truth. Pretty much this. I love the asari. As an essentially genderless species they mean a lot to me on a personal level. But they started off in a bad way. Still, I have hopes they are slowly being redeemed... then again a writing team that's too afraid to put a gay or bi man on the squad doesn't instill a great deal of confidence.
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 25, 2017 6:25:05 GMT
This reminds me. The Asari. I don't like them.
I don't mean as characters or as a species, but as a concept.
I'm fine with individual characters finding the Asari attractive, and I happy for those of any orientation who get the opportunity to romance hot alien space babes because of them; but there is a problem.
As shown by the bachelor party on Illium in Mass Effect 2, Asari are supposed to present themselves in a way that is generally seen to be attractive by all those who view them. (Something that is hard to comprehend when taking into account the existence of non-living Asari images like Avina, but whatever.)
It's just annoying to me that every time a Bioware game has made a species that's supposed to represent some sort of universal desire that every character in the world can gravitate towards, the Asari in Mass Effect and Desire Demons in Dragon Age, it happens be modeled after the female form.
The games often present these characters in a way that says, "I'm so sexy, look at me in all my sexy." And I'm just like, "Yeah, nope." It breaks immersion for me a bit when the game world tells me that everyone in that world should like a thing that run explicitly counter to what my character would actually like.
It would be nice if, for once, we had an embodiment of desire that presented as male. An incubus to balance out the traditional succubus.
Well, Andromeda is a different galaxy, and maybe in a future game we'll get a masculine-looking mono-gendered species to pursue as a LI. I doubt it, but maybe.
Give me namekians and I'm settled for life I think the Asari are a great concept, they are literally the embodiment of female power, they don't even need a male to procreate, so as feminist I like them a lot, HOWEVER it's saddens me a lot that their creation purpose was just a bait for straight males, I usually don't think too much about it because it shows the nasty priorities in the first games, but it's the truth. I find many 'empowerment' examples kinda sorta contradict themselves. Always thought 'a stripper owns the men, tricking them with her beauty, or enticing them, getting her livelihood from the lust of men, she owns them.' Same time, yeah, she becomes an object of desire.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 25, 2017 6:29:43 GMT
Give me namekians and I'm settled for life I think the Asari are a great concept, they are literally the embodiment of female power, they don't even need a male to procreate, so as feminist I like them a lot, HOWEVER it's saddens me a lot that their creation purpose was just a bait for straight males, I usually don't think too much about it because it shows the nasty priorities in the first games, but it's the truth. I find many 'empowerment' examples kinda sorta contradict themselves. Always thought 'a stripper owns the men, tricking them with her beauty, or enticing them, getting her livelihood from the lust of men, she owns them.' Same time, yeah, she becomes an object of desire. Yeah I get your point, it would have been a lot of better if they would have created a male counterpart, being equally an object of desire.
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 25, 2017 6:32:04 GMT
I find many 'empowerment' examples kinda sorta contradict themselves. Always thought 'a stripper owns the men, tricking them with her beauty, or enticing them, getting her livelihood from the lust of men, she owns them.' Same time, yeah, she becomes an object of desire. Yeah I get your point, it would have been a lot of better if they would have created a male counterpart, being equally an object of desire. YEAH! Honestly, they should have made a hermaphrodite race, personally. A masculine one. Truth is, I'd find a monogendered male race to be a bit 'same hat' in the ME universe as the Asari, but I would accept them. Not my 'prime' choice, but I'd take it. Gay male gamers need alien loving.
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Post by megs80 on Feb 25, 2017 6:34:24 GMT
There does seem to be trends in certain genres. I strangely often end up in groups of people who are often a very different demographic to me, this has never proven a problem though our interests tend to diverge wildly If someone is willing to put up with me they aren't fazed by a difference of opinion/preference. Strange creature that I am someone doesn't need to share a view point to be tolerant of it. I've noticed that amongst my friends the ones that struggled with fantasy/ sci-fi the most the common criticism was the suspension of disbelief required. Fantasy more so than sci-fi, Their tastes I have been lead to believe are more in line with mainstream media, so Perhaps sci-fi suffers more complaints simply because it reaches more individuals with those values? That could be one explanation. I just find it so bizarre, since you'd think that people into sci-fi would be more open-minded. If they aren't open to new, creative ways of looking at the future, even if it happens to diverge from what they're comfortable with, then why get into Speculative Fiction at all? Ah but that seems to be the point doesn't it, different is fine so long as it's not too different (or it's a particular type of different). People's threshold for off the beaten track seems to be surprisingly low at least when it comes to groups. I'm getting a men in black flash back: `Kay: A person is smart. People are dumb`
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 25, 2017 6:39:12 GMT
Yeah I get your point, it would have been a lot of better if they would have created a male counterpart, being equally an object of desire. YEAH! Honestly, they should have made a hermaphrodite race, personally. A masculine one. Truth is, I'd find a monogendered male race to be a bit 'same hat' in the ME universe as the Asari, but I would accept them. Not my 'prime' choice, but I'd take it. Gay male gamers need alien loving. I would love that, however this could be a double-edged sword, I don't know about lesbian/bi women opinions out there, but they have had asari LIs in every game and I find that very tiresome, it limits the options too much for my taste, for example, maybe if Peebee wasn't a LI, they could have got a female human in the squad (which is a thing they have been asking since forever) but with an asari in every game it limits their options for the so-called balance sake. I think the devs have to put to rest a little bit the asari for a few games, just my two cents.
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