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Post by wright1978 on Feb 25, 2017 19:09:45 GMT
The same sense i'd assume as to why hetrosexual males were limited to humans in DAI, characters aren't created in first instance to be Li's. Straight men had an elf in DA2 though. We're talking about three previous games with no, absolutely zero gay alien romances. And this is something I think we should criticize, though? Personally as a straight guy i prefer the playersexual approach of DA2 which avoids all this nonsense but they and many fans have been clear about having characters with defined sexuality. Given they've made that decision i still don't think it's their job to compensate based on previous games LI split or the absence of romances at all from the previous 2. I personally hope you get your wish for an alien romance but i don't think there necessarily should an entitlement to it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 19:09:46 GMT
Actually we talk as much about Jaal as we know, but the thread is also a place to just chat and get away from all the heated threads and tempers around the forum, and any character can be brought up in it really. Funny enough everything we assumed about Jaal turned out correct a month later, so we are currently theorizing Kett stuff. Uhuh, but the appeal of Jaal brought you all together for that 400+ page thread. That's saying something, and please don't try to say otherwise. People want aliens, that's the bottom line! That's kind of the point. The Angara are a new species so of course it made us interested. Sex appeal (and the many banging jokes from the devs aside) aside, their cultural is one of the most interesting things we've learned about in MEA.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 19:09:51 GMT
Actually we talk as much about Jaal as we know, but the thread is also a place to just chat and get away from all the heated threads and tempers around the forum, and any character can be brought up in it really. Funny enough everything we assumed about Jaal turned out correct a month later, so we are currently theorizing Kett stuff. Uhuh, but the appeal of Jaal brought you all together for that 400+ page thread. That's saying something, and please don't try to say otherwise. People want aliens, that's the bottom line! Not really. Don't know enough about jaal to really make any judgements. I went in the thread to read people's opinions about whatever, things looked friendly, and I joined in on the fun. I'm sure the same can be said for others too. I sometimes go into threads where I don't care about the subject at all whenever I'm bored just to see what's going on.
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 25, 2017 19:10:08 GMT
There has been two gay human romances '' leaked '' though, even though not squadmates, but still, two humans. And Jaals seems to get straighter and straighter by the hour. And IF we go by the same "leaks", then there's zero m/m squad romances which IMO is far bigger issue here in general than lack of alien m/m romances.
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Post by ash on Feb 25, 2017 19:10:43 GMT
There may be an male alien on a planet or the Nexus that is available to men. You see, my personal problem with that is that no matter how much devs will talk about "all characters are important" squadmates have banters. They have reactions in quests. They have tons of things not available to any of the crewmembers (I personally have a hard time imagining engineer Gil riding with me in Nomad and talking stuff in-game). And then there is a Nexus. Which is, like, not even our "permanent station". So every time I'll get a feeling I need a bit of romantic stuff, I'll be forced to travel to the Nexus and have 1-minute chat with that "male alien" who won't even care about what I did in the field in 99% of the situations if your prediction is true. Hell, I personally don't find Liam appealing at all (not by voice, not by his appearance, not by anything), but I'll take him any day over "that WONDERFUL NPC with of course tons of content" (btw, I'd tell the same stuff to my customers in a situation where there is nothing even remotely interesting about the character but I don't even have another option to offer them, it's called a marketing strategy) and will double take him any day over NPC from the Nexus.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 25, 2017 19:12:04 GMT
There has been two gay human romances '' leaked '' though, even though not squadmates, but still, two humans. And Jaals seems to get straighter and straighter by the hour. And IF we go by the same "leaks", then there's zero m/m squa romances which IMO is far bigger issue here in general than lack of alien m/m romances. I disagree on that, but you know, we have different priorities, that's a given.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 19:13:13 GMT
Why not both? Why not a human and an alien option? What's so wrong with that? Unless you are talking about only squadmate romances, then sure, whatever, prioritize humans ALL. YOU. WANT. But I don't see why NPCs should be affected by this '' humans first!!! '' rule of yours. That's completely selfish and cruel! Why would you say such cruel things :c And... cough cough, Jaal thread is 456 pages long. That should already be some indication of how much people enjoy aliens. Actually we talk as much about Jaal as we know, but the thread is also a place to just chat and get away from all the heated threads and tempers around the forum, and any character can be brought up in it really. Funny enough everything we assumed about Jaal turned out correct a month later, so we are currently theorizing Kett stuff. Admit it, it does get a little heated at times, and the constant "predictions" that Jaal (and Vetra) were straight got to be a little too annoying (and insensitive) to me so I had to finally leave (also b/c I'm no longer interested in someone I can't romance, at least not enough to camp out in his thread). The Jaal thread is to some extent becoming a parody of itself; it constantly insists it's the nicest thread on the BSN but if you keep having to repeat it, well, methinks the lady doth protest too much.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 19:14:07 GMT
Actually we talk as much about Jaal as we know, but the thread is also a place to just chat and get away from all the heated threads and tempers around the forum, and any character can be brought up in it really. Funny enough everything we assumed about Jaal turned out correct a month later, so we are currently theorizing Kett stuff. Uhuh, but the appeal of Jaal brought you all together for that 400+ page thread. That's saying something, and please don't try to say otherwise. People want aliens, that's the bottom line! As annoying as the rhetoric sometimes got in that thread, I would DEFINITELY still be hanging out there if he were confirmed bi. So absolutely.
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 25, 2017 19:15:02 GMT
And IF we go by the same "leaks", then there's zero m/m squa romances which IMO is far bigger issue here in general than lack of alien m/m romances. I disagree on that, but you know, we have different priorities, that's a given. Sure, but it's perfectly safe for me to assume that you would definitely want an m/m squad alien romance and well, if they're not even bothering and willing to have m/m squad human romance, then the prospet of m/m squad alien romance in Andromeda 2/3 are even lower as Bioware definitely sees humans as primary romances that "go in" first, then maybe aliens too.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 19:15:35 GMT
Straight men had an elf in DA2 though. We're talking about three previous games with no, absolutely zero gay alien romances. And this is something I think we should criticize, though? Personally as a straight guy i prefer the playersexual approach of DA2 which avoids all this nonsense but they and many fans have been clear about having characters with defined sexuality. Given they've made that decision i still don't think it's their job to compensate based on previous games LI split or the absence of romances at all from the previous 2. I personally hope you get your wish for an alien romance but i don't think there necessarily should an entitlement to it. The only thing a player should expect is that their individual sexual preference for their character will be respected and their player character will get an equality of choice when it comes to romance. (Which I think we can ALL agree will not be the case in MEA.)
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 25, 2017 19:15:38 GMT
Uhuh, but the appeal of Jaal brought you all together for that 400+ page thread. That's saying something, and please don't try to say otherwise. People want aliens, that's the bottom line! That's kind of the point. The Angara are a new species so of course it made us interested. Sex appeal (and the many banging jokes from the devs aside) aside, their cultural is one of the most interesting things we've learned about in MEA. Uhuh, but the appeal of Jaal brought you all together for that 400+ page thread. That's saying something, and please don't try to say otherwise. People want aliens, that's the bottom line! Not really. Don't know enough about jaal to really make any judgements. I went in the thread to read people's opinions about whatever, things looked friendly, and I joined in on the fun. I'm sure the same can be said for others too. I sometimes go into threads where I don't care about the subject at all whenever I'm bored just to see what's going on. Well if you both think this, I guess it isn't any proof then. I guess I made a generalization, sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 19:16:38 GMT
Actually we talk as much about Jaal as we know, but the thread is also a place to just chat and get away from all the heated threads and tempers around the forum, and any character can be brought up in it really. Funny enough everything we assumed about Jaal turned out correct a month later, so we are currently theorizing Kett stuff. Admit it, it does get a little heated at times, and the constant "predictions" that Jaal (and Vetra) were straight got to be a little too annoying (and insensitive) to me so I had to finally leave (also b/c I'm no longer interested in someone I can't romance, at least not enough to camp out in his thread). The Jaal thread is to some extent becoming a parody of itself; it constantly insists it's the nicest thread on the BSN but if you keep having to repeat it, well, methinks the lady doth protest too much. That's so true. The vibe in their changed and it feels really unwelcoming.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 19:17:16 GMT
Actually we talk as much about Jaal as we know, but the thread is also a place to just chat and get away from all the heated threads and tempers around the forum, and any character can be brought up in it really. Funny enough everything we assumed about Jaal turned out correct a month later, so we are currently theorizing Kett stuff. Admit it, it does get a little heated at times, and the constant "predictions" that Jaal (and Vetra) were straight got to be a little too annoying (and insensitive) to me so I had to finally leave (also b/c I'm no longer interested in someone I can't romance, at least not enough to camp out in his thread). The Jaal thread is to some extent becoming a parody of itself; it constantly insists it's the nicest thread on the BSN but if you keep having to repeat it, well, methinks the lady doth protest too much. Maybe because I am sick of many pages being based on crazy fangirling when we don't do that like the articles and vids state, and actually laugh about it and parody it? Jaal being straight sure turned you against us fast.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 25, 2017 19:18:35 GMT
I disagree on that, but you know, we have different priorities, that's a given. Sure, but it's perfectly safe for me to assume that you would definitely want an m/m squad alien romance and well, if they're not even bothering and willing to have m/m squad human romance, then the prospet of m/m squad alien romance in Andromeda 2/3 are even lower as Bioware definitely sees humans as primary romances that "go in" first, then maybe aliens too. Actually, not really. I've shared my opinion before on this and my meta griefs of romancing squaddies. I'm fine with either, both have their ups and downs. I'll support you on your quest for a gay human male squaddie romance though!
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 19:19:59 GMT
Admit it, it does get a little heated at times, and the constant "predictions" that Jaal (and Vetra) were straight got to be a little too annoying (and insensitive) to me so I had to finally leave (also b/c I'm no longer interested in someone I can't romance, at least not enough to camp out in his thread). The Jaal thread is to some extent becoming a parody of itself; it constantly insists it's the nicest thread on the BSN but if you keep having to repeat it, well, methinks the lady doth protest too much. Maybe because I am sick of many pages being based on crazy fangirling when we don't do that like the articles and vids state, and actually laugh about it and parody it? Jaal being straight sure turned you against us fast. It wasn't the fact that he was straight that made me leave. If that were true I wouldn't have left until yesterday. My final post in that thread states quite clearly what left me feeling frustrated and overwhelmed.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 25, 2017 19:20:19 GMT
Personally as a straight guy i prefer the playersexual approach of DA2 which avoids all this nonsense but they and many fans have been clear about having characters with defined sexuality. Given they've made that decision i still don't think it's their job to compensate based on previous games LI split or the absence of romances at all from the previous 2. I personally hope you get your wish for an alien romance but i don't think there necessarily should an entitlement to it. The only thing a player should expect is that their individual sexual preference for their character will be respected and their player character will get an equality of choice when it comes to romance. (Which I think we can ALL agree will not be the case in MEA.) Well i'm not sure complete equality of choice should be expected. Once again in Dragon age that certainly isn't the case. Now i agree i'd expect their preference to be respected and there to be an element of choice. I'd also be greatly surprised if that odd leak is true about no squad romance being available for gay men.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 19:20:44 GMT
Maybe because I am sick of many pages being based on crazy fangirling when we don't do that like the articles and vids state, and actually laugh about it and parody it? Jaal being straight sure turned you against us fast. It wasn't the fact that he was straight that made me leave. If that were true I wouldn't have left until yesterday. My final post in that thread states quite clearly what left me feeling frustrated and overwhelmed. I have no idea. I was too busy consoling Prince, who returned recently.
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Post by amoebae † on Feb 25, 2017 19:21:20 GMT
Vetra and Peebee are hinted to be BI. Peebee will be bi, I'll eat my hat if she isn't. To add, Suvi is a female science officer aboard the Tempest. Looks to be a lesbian option from what I've gathered. Written by Sheryl and voiced by Katy Townsend, nice combo. Well thank the maker Townsend is using her Scottish accent for Suvi, because Cait's "Irish" accent was some of the worst voice acting I've ever heard in my life.
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Post by not so salty shark on Feb 25, 2017 19:21:48 GMT
There has been two gay human romances '' leaked '' though, even though not squadmates, but still, two humans. And Jaals seems to get straighter and straighter by the hour. And IF we go by the same "leaks", then there's zero m/m squad romances which IMO is far bigger issue here in general than lack of alien m/m romances. I do agree that the main issue here is no homosexual male options on the squad period. Like I said before, even though I'm not personally into Liam or Jaal and wouldn't have romanced them anyway (at least not for a while...one or both of them may have grown on me, who knows?), a lot of folks who want to play through an M/M romance were absolutely over the moon about the potential prospects of those two. It was hard to see their hearts break over the latest rumors and I'm pissed off for them, as well as being angry over the complete lack of gay male options among the squad in this series again.
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 25, 2017 19:21:59 GMT
Actually, not really. I've shared my opinion before on this and my meta griefs of romancing squaddies. I'm fine with either, both have their ups and downs. I'll support you on your quest for a gay human male squaddie romance though! Fair enough, but you gotta realize that squadmates ARE considered "the main prize" in any context by most of the playerbase. If straight female Love Intersts in Andromeda were only NPCs, none in squad, you know there would be a shitstorm.
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Post by Salty Drell on Feb 25, 2017 19:23:38 GMT
There may be an male alien on a planet or the Nexus that is available to men. This is very likely.
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Post by lurkinganon on Feb 25, 2017 19:23:40 GMT
I'm talking about Everybody, not just this forum. Get out of the BSN bubble and you'll find "Hot Humans" are not in demand in comparison to "I want Jaal!"
Compared to Garrus, Tali and Liara no they weren't as popular. Pretending otherwise is an outright lie. I mean they're STILL getting more fanart (and pr0n) even today.
But it shouldn't be only human or only alien, it should be both like everyone else seems to have gotten.
However I believe it should be made the priority for this game because we've never had it in 3 games. I'm not saying Take Gil away, I'm saying give me some actual variety.
You say it should appeal to the majority of the playerbase but Steve and Kaiden ended up appealing to only a small percentage of an already small playerbase.
Oh no buddy, I'm not talking about ME3 Jacob, I'm talking way back in 2010 when they tried desperately to make him popular with the ladies.
I mean the ridiculous smooth talk, the abs, Femshep sounding over the top flirty with him...and people STILL picked Garrus and even Thane over him.
Y'know if you got Vanilla taste that's fine but don't say Vanilla is what should be important and focused on.
Especially when the "leak" implies everyone else gets different flavors.
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Post by Crim on Feb 25, 2017 19:24:31 GMT
Peebee will be bi, I'll eat my hat if she isn't. To add, Suvi is a female science officer aboard the Tempest. Looks to be a lesbian option from what I've gathered. Written by Sheryl and voiced by Katy Townsend, nice combo. Well thank the maker Townsend is using her Scottish accent for Suvi, because Cait's "Irish" accent was some of the worst voice acting I've ever heard in my life. Glad someone else agrees with me about this, I'm Irish and it bugged the hell outta me.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 25, 2017 19:25:30 GMT
Actually, not really. I've shared my opinion before on this and my meta griefs of romancing squaddies. I'm fine with either, both have their ups and downs. I'll support you on your quest for a gay human male squaddie romance though! Fair enough, but you gotta realize that squadmates ARE considered "the main prize" in any context by most of the playerbase. If straight female Love Intersts in Andromeda were only NPCs, none in squad, you know there would be a shitstorm. I believe you, but since I know I'm the bottom of the barrel (wanting gay/bi male aliens) I know not to expect the GRAND PRIZE. Beggars can't be choosers, sadly, but I don't think a gay/bi male human LI in the squad is too much to ask for, no. Thankfully I'm fine with getting the scraps, aka NPCs, so I'm just hoping one of the scraps is a gaylien for the gays.
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