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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 13, 2017 4:17:43 GMT
Ha, I figured it was this one. But, if my " guys, guys, I saw two tweets, guys" counts, then, I suppose we might as well poke at this one, too. I adore Krogans, and I wanted to romance Wrex so badly in the original Mass Effect. I'd love to see it happen. I sincerely think that Jaal is gonna be MEA's Liara. Meaning, he's the first Andromedan that's available to us as an LI, and the one through which we learn about the new galaxy. Sure, Tali and Garrus spoke a bit about their respective species, but, Liara was who you brought along if you wanted the info drops. I'd be shocked if he ended up being a light romance, nothing but a fling. I expect his LI arc to be fleshed out and important. Oh I would love a romance with a Krogan, but the cringing is due to what type of romance and my little Sara would not survive I fear As for Jaal, I don't know. He's not like Solas (uses you and leaves you), but you will be happy AND sad? Is that how Liara went? I romanced a dying man and a nerve-wrecked Turian, so I have no idea. Well, we killed Liara's mom in the first game, so, that was a little sad. Then in the second game, Liara gives your corpse to Cerberus to revive you and becomes a revenge-driven information broker to deal with the guilt of believing she a) betrayed you in doing so, and got a new friend killed in the process. The third game--her planet explodes. It's a little sad, sometimes. But I suppose, it's only in the second game that the game seemed to want me to... feel sad, in the context of the romance. Like, the other things were sad because they were sad and horrible and awful. The second game was awesome, because Liara found a real calling in what she does, and she likes doing the information brokering. But, there's moments where I found myself wondering if Liara was still... herself? It made the ending of the DLC really work for me. So, I guess, it depends on what they mean by sad. Is it Anders-blows-up-a-chantry sad? Is it Solas sad? Is it Thane sad? Liara sad would be nice, I think. There's a bump, but you get over it and move on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 4:21:02 GMT
Oh I would love a romance with a Krogan, but the cringing is due to what type of romance and my little Sara would not survive I fear As for Jaal, I don't know. He's not like Solas (uses you and leaves you), but you will be happy AND sad? Is that how Liara went? I romanced a dying man and a nerve-wrecked Turian, so I have no idea. Well, we killed Liara's mom in the first game, so, that was a little sad. Then in the second game, Liara gives your corpse to Cerberus to revive you and becomes a revenge-driven information broker to deal with the guilt of believing she a) betrayed you in doing so, and got a new friend killed in the process. The third game--her planet explodes. It's a little sad, sometimes. But I suppose, it's only in the second game that the game seemed to want me to... feel sad, in the context of the romance. Like, the other things were sad because they were sad and horrible and awful. The second game was awesome, because Liara found a real calling in what she does, and she likes doing the information brokering. But, there's moments where I found myself wondering if Liara was still... herself? It made the ending of the DLC really work for me. So, I guess, it depends on what they mean by sad. Is it Anders-blows-up-a-chantry sad? Is it Solas sad? Is it Thane sad? Liara sad would be nice, I think. There's a bump, but you get over it and move on. Yeah I keep thinking it'll be something that happens to his people. Might relate to that bug about being able to have sex with a certain character at an emotionally inappropriate time. Solas is a no, that was confirmed and I think Anders is borderline Solas, and he can't die like Thane, so yeah, Liara and something related to his people make sense. I guess I thought ME3 Kaidan's writer would be a bit lighter, but then Kaidan wasn't a sappy romance either if you think about it. He damn well near dies! As for the Krogan thing, I am starting to believe it could happen. The devs know people want it!
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 13, 2017 4:30:33 GMT
Well, we killed Liara's mom in the first game, so, that was a little sad. Then in the second game, Liara gives your corpse to Cerberus to revive you and becomes a revenge-driven information broker to deal with the guilt of believing she a) betrayed you in doing so, and got a new friend killed in the process. The third game--her planet explodes. It's a little sad, sometimes. But I suppose, it's only in the second game that the game seemed to want me to... feel sad, in the context of the romance. Like, the other things were sad because they were sad and horrible and awful. The second game was awesome, because Liara found a real calling in what she does, and she likes doing the information brokering. But, there's moments where I found myself wondering if Liara was still... herself? It made the ending of the DLC really work for me. So, I guess, it depends on what they mean by sad. Is it Anders-blows-up-a-chantry sad? Is it Solas sad? Is it Thane sad? Liara sad would be nice, I think. There's a bump, but you get over it and move on. Yeah I keep thinking it'll be something that happens to his people. Might relate to that bug about being able to have sex with a certain character at an emotionally inappropriate time. Solas is a no, that was confirmed and I think Anders is borderline Solas, and he can't die like Thane, so yeah, Liara and something related to his people make sense. I guess I thought ME3 Kaidan's writer would be a bit lighter, but then Kaidan wasn't a sappy romance either if you think about it. He damn well near dies! [ SNORTS] I dunno what we're all thinking: no one ends up really happy in Mass Effect romances. Except if you choose Destroy. And somehow survive reentry. With no helmet. But, again. Kaidan's romance is briefly sad--there's a bump. There's conflict. ( You might end up having to kill him, but, whatever.) But then you get over it, and the romance continues into happier times. It's probably exactly like that with Jaal, where the Khet wreck house and then he's angry about not being there or something. But I could be wrong and it could be devastation and dead guppies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 4:36:39 GMT
Yeah I keep thinking it'll be something that happens to his people. Might relate to that bug about being able to have sex with a certain character at an emotionally inappropriate time. Solas is a no, that was confirmed and I think Anders is borderline Solas, and he can't die like Thane, so yeah, Liara and something related to his people make sense. I guess I thought ME3 Kaidan's writer would be a bit lighter, but then Kaidan wasn't a sappy romance either if you think about it. He damn well near dies! [ SNORTS] I dunno what we're all thinking: no one ends up really happy in Mass Effect romances. Except if you choose Destroy. And somehow survive reentry. With no helmet. But, again. Kaidan's romance is briefly sad--there's a bump. There's conflict. ( You might end up having to kill him, but, whatever.) But then you get over it, and the romance continues into happier times. It's probably exactly like that with Jaal, where the Khet wreck house and then he's angry about not being there or something. But I could be wrong and it could be devastation and dead guppies. But it was SO BEAUTIFUL I turned down Kaidan in ME1, romanced Thane in ME2, watched him die in ME3, had his spirit visit me, turned Kaidan down when he confessed his love and when I chose Destroy, Kaidan was the one holding the nameplate with a loving and hopeful look on his face! Best first time romance ever! Eh... either way I'm going to have fun with it! But never having romanced Kaidan outside of a few vids I saw, I am just curious to what he writing is like that way in ME3. I secretly want Kallo
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Post by fialka on Feb 13, 2017 4:38:31 GMT
I saw that list referenced, but not the original site before. The poster says they got all their info from leaks they saw here on the BSN... Seems to me s/he mixed up the actual leaks with the speculation surrounding them, unless there's info that came from somewhere else not mentioned. At that point the only leaks that originated here were about a bi PeeBee and a dark skinned male for male Ryder (we only guessed it might be Reyes because of his Spanish accent). A separate leak came out about Jaal being bi. I don't remember any leaks about Vetra? Just the oopsie 'space-wife' tweet that got deleted, and the VA's Facebook post about making out with her hand.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 4:41:33 GMT
I saw that list referenced, but not the original site before. The poster says they got all their info from leaks they saw here on the BSN... Seems to me s/he mixed up the actual leaks with the speculation surrounding them, unless there's info that came from somewhere else not mentioned. At that point the only leaks that originated here were about a bi PeeBee and a dark skinned male for male Ryder (we only guessed it might be Reyes because of his Spanish accent). A separate leak came out about Jaal being bi. I don't remember any leaks about Vetra? Just the oopsie 'space-wife' tweet that got deleted, and the VA's Facebook post about making out with her hand. Yeah page 88 of the Jaal thread, you'll see the link.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 4:42:57 GMT
I already did, this is what I saw in the tag but I wouldnt say it is an official leak or anything but till now it seems a good indicator. Uh, back up. You're saying we had a leak from someone who one, knows seven of the romance options and their gender options, but two, doesn't actually know for sure if it's Reyes or just some random brown guy we haven't heard of before? I don't want to be a dick, but is there a single reason we should treat this as serious info? Because that seems pretty empty. I took that as a compilation of leaks/spoilers, no? I mean, they literally use the exact same description of the m/m LI as my friend did (latino or arabic).
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 13, 2017 4:46:01 GMT
I saw that list referenced, but not the original site before. The poster says they got all their info from leaks they saw here on the BSN... Seems to me s/he mixed up the actual leaks with the speculation surrounding them, unless there's info that came from somewhere else not mentioned. At that point the only leaks that originated here were about a bi PeeBee and a dark skinned male for male Ryder (we only guessed it might be Reyes because of his Spanish accent). A separate leak came out about Jaal being bi. I don't remember any leaks about Vetra? Just the oopsie 'space-wife' tweet that got deleted, and the VA's Facebook post about making out with her hand. It's the Vetra one that made me go "hmm", since she was--when this Tumblr post was made--widely speculated as being a Rydette-only option. But that person does say their sources are BSN. [ WEIGHS HANDS] It's really hard to figure out what's a leak and what's not, ya know? The worst thing is if we get into a leak-loop, where someone suggests something on Tumblr, and we see it and think it's a leak, and then Tumblr/Twitter sees it and thinks it's a leak, and then the cyclone takes out a barn. I guess we should discuss most anything that looks like a leak, even if only to toss it out with a " we have dismissed that claim".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 4:46:59 GMT
I saw that list referenced, but not the original site before. The poster says they got all their info from leaks they saw here on the BSN... Seems to me s/he mixed up the actual leaks with the speculation surrounding them, unless there's info that came from somewhere else not mentioned. At that point the only leaks that originated here were about a bi PeeBee and a dark skinned male for male Ryder (we only guessed it might be Reyes because of his Spanish accent). A separate leak came out about Jaal being bi. I don't remember any leaks about Vetra? Just the oopsie 'space-wife' tweet that got deleted, and the VA's Facebook post about making out with her hand. It's the Vetra one that made me go "hmm", since she was--when this Tumblr post was made--widely speculated as being a Rydette-only option. But that person does say their sources are BSN. [ WEIGHS HANDS] It's really hard to figure out what's a leak and what's not, ya know? The worst thing is if we get into a leak-loop, where someone suggests something on Tumblr, and we see it and think it's a leak, and then Tumblr/Twitter sees it and thinks it's a leak, and then the cyclone takes out a barn. I guess we should discuss most anything that looks like a leak, even if only to toss it out with a " we have dismissed that claim". If you go to Tumblr and search, half the people there treat our speculation as the word of God!
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 13, 2017 4:51:16 GMT
It's the Vetra one that made me go "hmm", since she was--when this Tumblr post was made--widely speculated as being a Rydette-only option. But that person does say their sources are BSN. [ WEIGHS HANDS] It's really hard to figure out what's a leak and what's not, ya know? The worst thing is if we get into a leak-loop, where someone suggests something on Tumblr, and we see it and think it's a leak, and then Tumblr/Twitter sees it and thinks it's a leak, and then the cyclone takes out a barn. I guess we should discuss most anything that looks like a leak, even if only to toss it out with a " we have dismissed that claim". If you go to Tumblr and search, half the people there treat our speculation as the word of God! Waaaah whyyyy We need a post that, like, categorizes leaked information based on how sound it is. Like, Bioware employee mis-tweeting is top tier leaks. Anything new someone claims to have learned form us is at the bottom.
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Post by fialka on Feb 13, 2017 4:53:19 GMT
It's the Vetra one that made me go "hmm", since she was--when this Tumblr post was made--widely speculated as being a Rydette-only option. But that person does say their sources are BSN. [ WEIGHS HANDS] It's really hard to figure out what's a leak and what's not, ya know? The worst thing is if we get into a leak-loop, where someone suggests something on Tumblr, and we see it and think it's a leak, and then Tumblr/Twitter sees it and thinks it's a leak, and then the cyclone takes out a barn. I guess we should discuss most anything that looks like a leak, even if only to toss it out with a " we have dismissed that claim". If you go to Tumblr and search, half the people there treat our speculation as the word of God! We're masters of it at this point! Funny thing is... if you look through our posts, someone got it right, here and there. You could probably find half the game's plot if you look hard enough! I was on the original original Solas thread on BSN, and it looked a whole lot like the Jaal thread with all the speculation. And pretty much everything we learned about Solas, someone at some point guessed at!
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 13, 2017 4:55:16 GMT
See this shit right here is why I dislike them not confirming the LI's. Even if we try not to get excited about that, we're going to be. And if it turns out to be nothing when we get the game everyone's going to disappointed. It sucks. 1000%. And it's doubly upsetting when they won't elaborate on options confirmed, in terms of sexuality, for spoiler reasons. This is perhaps generalizing, but it's akin to "Their favorite color is blue!" "Ooh, what shade? Cobalt? Turquoise? Royal? Cerulean?" "LOL NOPE spoilers." FFS....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 4:56:49 GMT
If you go to Tumblr and search, half the people there treat our speculation as the word of God! We're masters of it at this point! Funny thing is... if you look through our posts, someone got it right, here and there. You could probably find half the game's plot if you look hard enough! I was on the original original Solas thread on BSN, and it looked a whole lot like the Jaal thread with all the speculation. And pretty much everything we learned about Solas, someone at some point guessed at! We are getting too close and Jaal is going to break our hearts for sure now, despite not being exactly like Solas. But yeah we even had a plot idea going haha I bet half that stuff is in the game now
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 13, 2017 4:58:55 GMT
I really can't see Drack being an option. I mean come on, literally every squadmate is an option to some degree? Seems silly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 5:00:49 GMT
I really can't see Drack being an option. I mean come on, literally every squadmate is an option to some degree? Seems silly. I only care about one! And NO it's not Jaal. But I guess when the devs said there would be lots of romances, people took it totally to heart! I would love a Josie-like romance!
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Post by fialka on Feb 13, 2017 5:02:11 GMT
I saw that list referenced, but not the original site before. The poster says they got all their info from leaks they saw here on the BSN... Seems to me s/he mixed up the actual leaks with the speculation surrounding them, unless there's info that came from somewhere else not mentioned. At that point the only leaks that originated here were about a bi PeeBee and a dark skinned male for male Ryder (we only guessed it might be Reyes because of his Spanish accent). A separate leak came out about Jaal being bi. I don't remember any leaks about Vetra? Just the oopsie 'space-wife' tweet that got deleted, and the VA's Facebook post about making out with her hand. It's the Vetra one that made me go "hmm", since she was--when this Tumblr post was made--widely speculated as being a Rydette-only option. But that person does say their sources are BSN. [ WEIGHS HANDS] It's really hard to figure out what's a leak and what's not, ya know? The worst thing is if we get into a leak-loop, where someone suggests something on Tumblr, and we see it and think it's a leak, and then Tumblr/Twitter sees it and thinks it's a leak, and then the cyclone takes out a barn. I guess we should discuss most anything that looks like a leak, even if only to toss it out with a " we have dismissed that claim". Yeah it was the Vetra thing that threw me from the beginning. Also this: So... updated speculation list, featuring confirmed characters so far (as in, what I believe will happen due to precedent and from released/leaked info, versus what my optimism wants me to say): Spoilered because this list is inspired by leaked info (though I don't specify what) so better safe than sorry: Female LIs: PeeBee: Bi Cora: Straight Vetra: Bi Lexi: Lesbian
Male LIs: Liam: Straight Jaal: Bi Reyes: Gay
Look familiar? When I first saw that the reference to that leak on the Jaal thread I was like waitaminute...? It's an awfully strange coincidence. Unless I'm psychic! (or a Bioware dev in disguise shhhhhhshshsh....) Either way I immeditely found it suspect, and the fact that they cite BSN as their source makes it more so. Not saying they necessarily copied me, but, it seems, as I said before, that the post confused actual leaks with speculation.
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Post by fialka on Feb 13, 2017 5:05:01 GMT
We're masters of it at this point! Funny thing is... if you look through our posts, someone got it right, here and there. You could probably find half the game's plot if you look hard enough! I was on the original original Solas thread on BSN, and it looked a whole lot like the Jaal thread with all the speculation. And pretty much everything we learned about Solas, someone at some point guessed at! We are getting too close and Jaal is going to break our hearts for sure now, despite not being exactly like Solas. But yeah we even had a plot idea going haha I bet half that stuff is in the game now That's why I'm saying we should only speculate about happy stuff!
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 13, 2017 5:10:28 GMT
If you go to Tumblr and search, half the people there treat our speculation as the word of God! We're masters of it at this point! Funny thing is... if you look through our posts, someone got it right, here and there. You could probably find half the game's plot if you look hard enough! I was on the original original Solas thread on BSN, and it looked a whole lot like the Jaal thread with all the speculation. And pretty much everything we learned about Solas, someone at some point guessed at! To be entirely fair about Solas, we guessed a lot of his story because a month or so before release, someone got hold of Chris Priestly's conversation in a private Facebook group where he discussed Solas being the huge Anders-like game-changer of DAI. We wouldn't have been that close to on the right track otherwise, and a lot of us were still pretty surprised at exactly what he turned out to be. The only thing we had going for us before that is that we knew Weekes was being purposefully opaque when he kept insisting that Solas was some regular old hedge mage. This new leak by someone who wasn't involved with BioWare like Priestly was is the closest we have to that with Jaal, and it's not much!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 5:15:13 GMT
We're masters of it at this point! Funny thing is... if you look through our posts, someone got it right, here and there. You could probably find half the game's plot if you look hard enough! I was on the original original Solas thread on BSN, and it looked a whole lot like the Jaal thread with all the speculation. And pretty much everything we learned about Solas, someone at some point guessed at! To be entirely fair about Solas, we guessed a lot of his story because a month or so before release, someone got hold of Chris Priestly's conversation in a private Facebook group where he discussed Solas being the huge Anders-like game-changer of DAI. We wouldn't have been that close to on the right track otherwise, and a lot of us were still pretty surprised at exactly what he turned out to be. The only thing we had going for us before that is that we knew Weekes was being purposefully opaque when he kept insisting that Solas was some regular old hedge mage. This new leak by someone who wasn't involved with BioWare like Priestly was is the closest we have to that with Jaal, and it's not much! Well he's not Solas, so that's a good sign!
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Post by fialka on Feb 13, 2017 5:17:34 GMT
We're masters of it at this point! Funny thing is... if you look through our posts, someone got it right, here and there. You could probably find half the game's plot if you look hard enough! I was on the original original Solas thread on BSN, and it looked a whole lot like the Jaal thread with all the speculation. And pretty much everything we learned about Solas, someone at some point guessed at! To be entirely fair about Solas, we guessed a lot of his story because a month or so before release, someone got hold of Chris Priestly's conversation in a private Facebook group where he discussed Solas being the huge Anders-like gamechanger of DAI. We wouldn't have been that close to on the right track otherwise, and a lot of us were still pretty surprised at exactly what he turned out to be. The only thing we had going for us before that is that we knew Weekes was being purposefully opaque when he kept insisting that Solas was some regular old hedge mage. Actually I remember someone guessing that he was the Dread Wolf (or at least a worshiper, based on the jaw necklace), and that he was the one who killed Felassan in The Masked Empire (though again, I think the more common theory was that he was an agent of the wolf, rather than the wolf himself). I also remember people predicting his goal might be to bring down the veil and bring the magic back per Sandal's prediction and that codex in DA2's Black Emporium before Trespasser (though to be fair there were lots of clues). It's too bad the old BSN got taken down, else I'd see if I could find the posts!
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 13, 2017 5:20:21 GMT
To be entirely fair about Solas, we guessed a lot of his story because a month or so before release, someone got hold of Chris Priestly's conversation in a private Facebook group where he discussed Solas being the huge Anders-like gamechanger of DAI. We wouldn't have been that close to on the right track otherwise, and a lot of us were still pretty surprised at exactly what he turned out to be. The only thing we had going for us before that is that we knew Weekes was being purposefully opaque when he kept insisting that Solas was some regular old hedge mage. Actually I remember someone guessing that he was the Dread Wolf (or at least a worshiper, based on the jaw necklace), and that he was the one who killed Felassan in The Masked Empire (though again, I think the more common theory was that he was an agent of the wolf, rather than the wolf himself). I also remember people predicting his goal might be to bring down the veil and bring the magic back per Sandal's prediction and that codex in DA2's Black Emporium before Trespasser (though to be fair there were lots of clues). It's too bad the old BSN got taken down, else I'd see if I could find the posts! That all happened but I think a lot of it started being speculated because we knew he was going to be important and game-changing from the Priestly leak. The thing with him being a Dread Wolf follower may have happened earlier than that because of his wolf jawbone. You know, after weeks of us wondering what the heck that even was. Some people still think it's some shriveled Christmas elf shoe.
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Post by fialka on Feb 13, 2017 5:21:41 GMT
To be entirely fair about Solas, we guessed a lot of his story because a month or so before release, someone got hold of Chris Priestly's conversation in a private Facebook group where he discussed Solas being the huge Anders-like game-changer of DAI. We wouldn't have been that close to on the right track otherwise, and a lot of us were still pretty surprised at exactly what he turned out to be. The only thing we had going for us before that is that we knew Weekes was being purposefully opaque when he kept insisting that Solas was some regular old hedge mage. This new leak by someone who wasn't involved with BioWare like Priestly was is the closest we have to that with Jaal, and it's not much! Well he's not Solas, so that's a good sign! Exactly. Not Solas, and 'oh God no' not like Solas if we go by leak. I don't mind some rough waters, or even hidden motives... like we find out he was sent as a spy and we have to forgive him later or whatever... or maybe he tries to push us away like Fenris does, but it all works out in the end. Just... they've done that so often in Bioware games, I just want whatever it is to be unique so I'm actually surprised instead of going, 'oh this again?' And to have at least the possibility of a happy ending, even if we have to earn it by making certain choices in the plot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 5:24:04 GMT
Well he's not Solas, so that's a good sign! Exactly. Not Solas, and 'oh God no' not like Solas if we go by leak. I don't mind some rough waters, or even hidden motives... like we find out he was sent as a spy and we have to forgive him later or whatever... or maybe he tries to push us away like Fenris does, but it all works out in the end. Just... they've done that so often in Bioware games, I just want whatever it is to be unique so I'm actually surprised instead of going, 'oh this again?' And to have at least the possibility of a happy ending, even if we have to earn it by making certain choices in the plot. And I HOPE Liam is not like Kaidan, but his writer IS Kaidan's, so I'm not sure about that romance... and yet I want to try it!
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 13, 2017 5:42:21 GMT
Exactly. Not Solas, and 'oh God no' not like Solas if we go by leak. I don't mind some rough waters, or even hidden motives... like we find out he was sent as a spy and we have to forgive him later or whatever... or maybe he tries to push us away like Fenris does, but it all works out in the end. Just... they've done that so often in Bioware games, I just want whatever it is to be unique so I'm actually surprised instead of going, 'oh this again?' And to have at least the possibility of a happy ending, even if we have to earn it by making certain choices in the plot. And I HOPE Liam is not like Kaidan, but his writer IS Kaidan's, so I'm not sure about that romance... and yet I want to try it! I really want Liam to be a standout romance both to break the mold and because I still really get the feeling that I'll like him in game! I don't talk about him as much anymore, but Liam was the first character that really caught my eye. So I'd be pretty disappointed if he was a Kaidan or fell into the safe first companion trap. No offense to Kaidan lovers, he just never hit me.
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Post by fialka on Feb 13, 2017 5:42:42 GMT
Exactly. Not Solas, and 'oh God no' not like Solas if we go by leak. I don't mind some rough waters, or even hidden motives... like we find out he was sent as a spy and we have to forgive him later or whatever... or maybe he tries to push us away like Fenris does, but it all works out in the end. Just... they've done that so often in Bioware games, I just want whatever it is to be unique so I'm actually surprised instead of going, 'oh this again?' And to have at least the possibility of a happy ending, even if we have to earn it by making certain choices in the plot. And I HOPE Liam is not like Kaidan, but his writer IS Kaidan's, so I'm not sure about that romance... and yet I want to try it! I already get the impression Liam's going to be more interesting than Kaidan. Luke also wrote Aveline and Sera. So some really varied stuff. Hard to know what we're going to get. I think I'll like Liam though from his description and that glimpse from the trailer. Maybe I'll like Jaal more, but, I'll still save him for a second playthrough as it'll give me something to look forward to. Plus I'll be more likely to make those correct decisions so as not to screw things up with him if that's the kind of romance he is.
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