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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 15, 2017 15:38:36 GMT
Seeing how they revealed CoraxScott in the cinematic trailer, it's very likely that they will show how dialogue options works, flirt/heart option included, and of course it will be only f/m options. I want to hear Jaal's voice, I've heard the VA on youtube but it's not the same! According to the devs, the Heart can be used for many things, but the Flirt is separate. I would personally like to know how that works so I don't accidentally lead someone on. It would just be a 5th option on the dialogue wheel most likely. You would have the four tone ones Head, Heart, Casual, and Professional and then there would be a Flirt option. If there is an Investigate option, I bet the Flirt will be in there so you would choose Investigate then Flirt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 15:41:17 GMT
According to the devs, the Heart can be used for many things, but the Flirt is separate. I would personally like to know how that works so I don't accidentally lead someone on. It would just be a 5th option on the dialogue wheel most likely. You would have the four tone ones Head, Heart, Casual, and Professional and then there would be a Flirt option. If there is an Investigate option, I bet the Flirt will be in there so you would choose Investigate then Flirt. Hopefully it's that simple lol I love being compassionate, but it's always taken wrong in the other games!
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Post by fialka on Feb 15, 2017 15:54:25 GMT
Not that we are going to know before launch ( ) but if there are m/m options on the squad, and generally just if you choose to have a same-sex relationship in the game, its acknowledged in universe and by other characters that its a same-sex relationship and the correct gender pronouns are used instead of avoided like with MShep and Kaidan Oh, it would be really cool to play as an out character, and have the universe react to that. Like, an asari hits on Rydude, and instead of making " pleased and interested" face automatically, you can be like, "ummm no sorry". I think with bi/pan LI, the reason for the lack of pronouns is to save where they can on word/voice budget. But, if they do that again, hopefully that'll translate to more unique lines per Ryder? On another topic, if we really are gonna get a large gameplay video this week ( tomorrow, possibly) what are the odds they're gonna keep to their pattern and make it a Rydette video? [ WRY GRIN] Two-third's of it, maybe? Half? Anyway, do you think they'll do a bit of flirting and reveal an LI, like they did with Anders back in DA2? If so, I think Liam is most likely. Peebee after that, and Vetra, maybe. ( Kallo, in my dreams!) "Pleased and interested" was also the default face for a female Shepard when a man or woman flirted with her. Romanced, gay, straight, didn't matter... So... how about no more of that, period, unless we hit the actual flirt dialogue or are in a romance with that character already? It would also be nice of Ryder had some actual game this time, or if not have him/her be intentionally awkward. Either is fine (though a choice would be awesome, I don't see that happening - maybe have it depend on the romance like in DAI?), but femShep's creepy grins and cringe-worthy 'seductive' lines were just... no.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 15, 2017 15:55:11 GMT
With the Flirt options, I hope with some romances at least that the flirts aren't blatant ones but more just things like being affectionate and complimenting.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 15, 2017 15:56:33 GMT
It would just be a 5th option on the dialogue wheel most likely. You would have the four tone ones Head, Heart, Casual, and Professional and then there would be a Flirt option. If there is an Investigate option, I bet the Flirt will be in there so you would choose Investigate then Flirt. Hopefully it's that simple lol I love being compassionate, but it's always taken wrong in the other games! If this new system works, I hope that it is implemented in future games and DA, sounds really good for now!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 15, 2017 15:58:46 GMT
Hopefully it's that simple lol I love being compassionate, but it's always taken wrong in the other games! If this new system works, I hope that it is implemented in future games and DA, sounds really good for now! It already was. DAI did the exact same thing regarding flirts.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 16:00:50 GMT
With the Flirt options, I hope with some romances at least that the flirts aren't blatant ones but more just things like being affectionate and complimenting. A quintillion times this. I'd hope instead of a blatant "I wanna bang you" line, or a line along those lines, there is an option instead to maybe be a bit more compassionate or just sweet and kind and maybe awkward? But a sweet awkward, not a creepy derp awkward. I'd love it if we could express a sweet kinda affection and be complimentary without coming across as an all out horndog.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 15, 2017 16:05:36 GMT
It already was. DAI did the exact same thing regarding flirts. I mean heart and flirt being separated options I'm always such a boyscout in videogames like this, so the option to be nice without the suggested "we'll bang ok?" in past games sounds great
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Post by fialka on Feb 15, 2017 16:06:50 GMT
With the Flirt options, I hope with some romances at least that the flirts aren't blatant ones but more just things like being affectionate and complimenting. This would also be nice. Again, though not perfect, I thought DAI did romances the best because some of the flirt lines were just that. Cullen's had some nice moments like that when the romance begins - just telling him you're glad he's alright after the Haven thing, and saying 'I'd like to do this again' after the chess match. With Solas you can respond positively to a compliment he gives you. But I sometimes felt like Shepard was just like 'hey there hot stuff'/'let's have sex!'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 16:09:32 GMT
With the Flirt options, I hope with some romances at least that the flirts aren't blatant ones but more just things like being affectionate and complimenting. This would also be nice. Again, though not perfect, I thought DAI did romances the best because some of the flirt lines were just that. Cullen's had some nice moments like that when the romance begins - just telling him you're glad he's alright after the Haven thing, and saying 'I'd like to do this again' after the chess match. With Solas you can respond positively to a compliment he gives you. But I sometimes felt like Shepard was just like 'hey there hot stuff'/'let's have sex!' Shep did ignite memes that'll last for aeons but other than that there isn't much else for me to positively say on his whole "we'll bang ok?" attitude ( )
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 15, 2017 16:10:26 GMT
With the Flirt options, I hope with some romances at least that the flirts aren't blatant ones but more just things like being affectionate and complimenting. [ THINKS ABOUT SEBASTIAN] [ SCREAMS] [ NEVER STOPS] The only LI with a strictly chaste romance... the only...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 15, 2017 16:12:48 GMT
With the Flirt options, I hope with some romances at least that the flirts aren't blatant ones but more just things like being affectionate and complimenting. [ THINKS ABOUT SEBASTIAN] [ SCREAMS] [ NEVER STOPS] The only LI with a strictly chaste romance... the only... I wouldn't say that. Even not counting the ones left ambiguous so can be chaste like Josephine, Kelly, and Solas, there were Bioware LIs that has the romance strickly chaste. For example the one hailed as one of their best Bastila is strictly chaste, never going beyond a kiss in the game.
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 15, 2017 16:18:16 GMT
[ THINKS ABOUT SEBASTIAN] [ SCREAMS] [ NEVER STOPS] The only LI with a strictly chaste romance... the only... I wouldn't say that. Even not counting the ones left ambiguous so can be chaste like Josephine, Kelly, and Solas, there were Bioware LIs that has the romance strickly chaste. For example the one hailed as one of their best Bastila is strictly chaste, never going beyond a kiss in the game. Oh, I mean blatantly, no question, absolutely chaste romance. Like, spelled out by Sebastian that it was never going to happen. That's what I meant. The others are ambiguous, which is very nice ( Anders works for that, too), but I really wanted Sebastian to work for an asexual Hawke and boy-oh- boy does he not.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 15, 2017 16:29:38 GMT
I wouldn't say that. Even not counting the ones left ambiguous so can be chaste like Josephine, Kelly, and Solas, there were Bioware LIs that has the romance strickly chaste. For example the one hailed as one of their best Bastila is strictly chaste, never going beyond a kiss in the game. Oh, I mean blatantly, no question, absolutely chaste romance. Like, spelled out by Sebastian that it was never going to happen. That's what I meant. The others are ambiguous, which is very nice ( Anders works for that, too), but I really wanted Sebastian to work for an asexual Hawke and boy-oh- boy does he not. I still say Bastila counts(not counting the post-KOTOR stuff since that didn't exist yet). You kiss and she pulls away saying they shouldn't have done that and then runs off. The rest of the game never has them kiss or anything after that while still having other romantic stuff like sweet words. How did Anders work for that? All the other DA2 romances had required sex. The only thing I didn't like about Merrill's romance. I'm afraid ambiguous is as far as Bioware is willing to go at this point. At least some were done really well, like Josephine's, where there is literally nothing other than one dialogue option you can choose that suggests it is a sexual romance. Her writer Sylvia even stated that seeing Josephine as asexual or demisexual is a perfectly valid interpretation.
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 15, 2017 16:37:02 GMT
Oh, I mean blatantly, no question, absolutely chaste romance. Like, spelled out by Sebastian that it was never going to happen. That's what I meant. The others are ambiguous, which is very nice ( Anders works for that, too), but I really wanted Sebastian to work for an asexual Hawke and boy-oh- boy does he not. I still say Bastila counts(not counting the post-KOTOR stuff since that didn't exist yet). You kiss and she pulls away saying they shouldn't have done that and then runs off. The rest of the game never has them kiss or anything after that while still having other romantic stuff like sweet words. How did Anders work for that? All the other DA2 romances had required sex. The only thing I didn't like about Merrill's romance. I'm afraid ambiguous is as far as Bioware is willing to go at this point. At least some were done really well, like Josephine's, where there is literally nothing other than one dialogue option you can choose that suggests it is a sexual romance. Her writer Sylvia even stated that seeing Josephine as asexual or demisexual is a perfectly valid interpretation. I'll take your word on Bastila, since I've never played that game. Anders had a clothed make out scene on a bed, but he and Hawke are never seen unclothed together. Only Isabela makes a passing comment about any sex you may-or-may-not have had, and you can simply tell her to shut up. It works really well for me. I have to keep asking an explicit asexual romance, or else it'll defintely never happen. At the very least, it'll remind them to keep giving us non-sexual options.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 17:26:46 GMT
Though, now that I bring it up, Bioware hasn't made a great deal of non-straight, non-romancable LGBTQ charcters. Only tlone I can think of is Bull's LT. There is some, but usually they aren't stated outright and just confirmed via twitter or other social media outside of the game. Wade and Herren from DAO are gay couple, Viscount's son Saemus from DA2 is gay and into the one qunari in the beach, but I don't remember if it was mutual or not. Both were confirmed by Gaider outside of the game. Then there is Briala and Celene that are lesbians in DAI and you find out in the game that they have been together. In ME3 side there is Aria with Nyreen and some human women with Asaris. It's not lot all together, but some at least. Nice list, but you forgot Branka/Hespith.
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 15, 2017 17:50:49 GMT
Though, now that I bring it up, Bioware hasn't made a great deal of non-straight, non-romancable LGBTQ charcters. Only tlone I can think of is Bull's LT. There is some, but usually they aren't stated outright and just confirmed via twitter or other social media outside of the game. Wade and Herren from DAO are gay couple, Viscount's son Saemus from DA2 is gay and into the one qunari in the beach, but I don't remember if it was mutual or not. Both were confirmed by Gaider outside of the game. Then there is Briala and Celene that are lesbians in DAI and you find out in the game that they have been together. In ME3 side there is Aria with Nyreen and some human women with Asaris. It's not lot all together, but some at least. I did not consider Nyreen and Aria, as they were companions, bit I did forget about Briala Celene, and Seamus. Thank you for the reminder.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 17:57:33 GMT
Honestly, I'm wondering... What exactly about her romance did you like? Obviously, it's ultimately up to opinions, but was it just because there was no sex scene? Her personality? Because personally I like relationships with a lot of tension, and I just didn't find that in her romance. Josephine's romance in DA:I could have also done with more tension. And Merrill's romance in DA2. There was so much potential that I feel just wasn't ultimately delivered because it's easier to write them a certain way. All of the above. I loved how it was the only romance that didn't force sex on you in the entire Shepard Trilogy and instead was written to be ambiguous so you can have the kind of relationship you want. Hmm... I'm not sure that's entirely true. I believe that you can turn down sex with Liara in ME1, and the romance flag will still be set. If you do LotSB, you can end it with a romance scene - or not - and even then, it's somewhat ambiguous. There is no actual sex scene, just some cuddling / foreplay. When she visits Shepard's cabin en route to Cronos in ME3, you can tell her you'd like to be alone. So, I think there's an opportunity to play a sexless romance with Liara if you'd like.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 15, 2017 18:05:10 GMT
All of the above. I loved how it was the only romance that didn't force sex on you in the entire Shepard Trilogy and instead was written to be ambiguous so you can have the kind of relationship you want. Hmm... I'm not sure that's entirely true. I believe that you can turn down sex with Liara in ME1, and the romance flag will still be set. If you do LotSB, you can end it with a romance scene - or not - and even then, it's somewhat ambiguous. There is no actual sex scene, just some cuddling / foreplay. When she visits Shepard's cabin en route to Cronos in ME3, you can tell her you'd like to be alone. So, I think there's an opportunity to play a sexless romance with Liara if you'd like. Just like the other romances in ME3, there is a few pieces of dialogue that heavily implies you two are sleeping together even if you opt out during the actual scene.
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Post by commanderkorra on Feb 15, 2017 18:23:23 GMT
For all we know, Cora isn't even much a romance but more of a hookup. But even if so, I still want her to be bi. I just don't understand why no human female squadmates can be romanced. I don't want the unoriginal Scott = Cora Sara = Liam, and everything seems to be pointing that way. I wish all squad were bi, and the rest was a mix.
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Feb 15, 2017 18:31:39 GMT
There might be another major Salarian character.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 18:36:14 GMT
Another thing- I heard Drack is supposed to be really old. Another argument to make him not romanceable. Well, yeah, because turning 30 (or the equivalent for your species) automatically means no more sex. Hmm... I'm not sure that's entirely true. I believe that you can turn down sex with Liara in ME1, and the romance flag will still be set. If you do LotSB, you can end it with a romance scene - or not - and even then, it's somewhat ambiguous. There is no actual sex scene, just some cuddling / foreplay. When she visits Shepard's cabin en route to Cronos in ME3, you can tell her you'd like to be alone. So, I think there's an opportunity to play a sexless romance with Liara if you'd like. Just like the other romances in ME3, there is a few pieces of dialogue that heavily implies you two are sleeping together even if you opt out during the actual scene. Aside from EDI stating that Shepard has sexual experience (during an optional conversation on the Citadel), I can't think of any other situations where it is even implied in conversation - and even then, it could be presumption on the part of the speaker. Can you remember any specific dialogue that made it impossible for you to play it chaste?
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Post by Foelhe on Feb 15, 2017 18:45:43 GMT
Another thing- I heard Drack is supposed to be really old. Another argument to make him not romanceable. Well, yeah, because turning 30 (or the equivalent for your species) automatically means no more sex. The devs are constantly playing up the Ryders as young adults trying to prove themselves, and constantly playing up Drack as a grizzled old warrior. That's a pretty big age gap, mentally.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:13:19 GMT
Well, yeah, because turning 30 (or the equivalent for your species) automatically means no more sex. The devs are constantly playing up the Ryders as young adults trying to prove themselves, and constantly playing up Drack as a grizzled old warrior. That's a pretty big age gap, mentally. Well, sure, if they've made the decision to use that (or some other) reason why Ryder & Drack would not be romantically interested in each other. It would be unexpected in a setting where different species from entirely different environments with very different lifespans are crossing that divide and entering romances right and left, however. Also, note that DA's writers made Solas an LI.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 15, 2017 19:14:32 GMT
Does an age difference really matter if you are going to bang a big lizard dude anyway.
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