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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:41:54 GMT
I don't appreciate romance fights causing our nice and always welcoming thread on Jaal to be locked and cleaned when we asked nicely for the fighting to stop there. Please do not do that again. Thank you.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 23, 2017 21:41:56 GMT
It's both? And I'm not going to spend 60 dollars if the only thing I'm getting is the space exploration, which I give 0 fucks about. Sorry, I don't really care about sci-fi stuff, but I do care about banging hot dudeliens. I'm much more into high fantasy but high fantasy hasn't really given me the dating sim option lately. Then play a dating sim not mass effect. Jeez so this is where all the crazy from old bsn has wound up. Look, dude, it's easy to say that when you're always going to be represented in video games. LGBT players have few options in general, especially among mainstream video games. This has always been something that Bioware utilized to cultivate a certain reputation. Now that they appear to be regressing, it's no wonder a lot of LGBT people are worried, upset, etc. And the reason we're hyperfixated on romances is because the central LGBT characters tend to be the romanceable ones. That's just how it ended up. If you are willing to recommend some games and gaming companies that promise just as much if not more LGBT representation than Bioware, feel free to make some recommendations. If you aren't, then you don't really have a dog in this fight.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:42:15 GMT
What is your problem now exactly? Really I just don't follow You're just a random dude to me I've never spoken even to before Dude, don't play the victim. What you said was inappropriate and bringing it into a different topic like this is also inappropriate. Anyhow, if there really are no bi/gay male squadmates like my friend said, then I doubt that Vetra is straight. Even when not taking into account my friend's saying Vetra is bi, Sheryl Chee has a history of writing romances that are for women to some extent: Blackwall, Isabela, Leliana. And all of them preferred women to some extent. Furthermore, Sheryl Chee's writing style does not at all match your "theory" especially since none of her characters ever fit that sexist stereotype, with characters like Oghren being written to be mocked rather than applauded. Furthermore, if Jaal and Cora and Liam and Vetra are all straight, then that would leave Peebee the only bi squadmate, which even I find unlikely. More unlikely than them excluding bi/gay men in the squad. Don't expect me to agree.
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Post by davkar on Feb 23, 2017 21:42:28 GMT
Well, some first hand account for Vetra with BroRyder: SourceYet again, this confirms nothing. It was probably a flirty 'heart option'. Could be a proper romance start, could be a 'femquisitor romancing Dorian' kind of thing. No point jumping to conclusions just yet either way.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 23, 2017 21:42:59 GMT
It's both? And I'm not going to spend 60 dollars if the only thing I'm getting is the space exploration, which I give 0 fucks about. Sorry, I don't really care about sci-fi stuff, but I do care about banging hot dudeliens. I'm much more into high fantasy but high fantasy hasn't really given me the dating sim option lately. Then play a dating sim not mass effect. Jeez so this is where all the crazy from old bsn has wound up. There are various aspects of the people. And that does not make them crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:46:57 GMT
I don't appreciate romance fights causing our nice and always welcoming thread on Jaal to be locked and cleaned when we asked nicely for the fighting to stop there. Please do not do that again. Thank you. I don't appreciate people calmly voicing their concerns and then getting harassed and told to "stop overreacting" or "stop complaining" so much that they delete their account. Don't do that again. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:50:41 GMT
I don't appreciate romance fights causing our nice and always welcoming thread on Jaal to be locked and cleaned when we asked nicely for the fighting to stop there. Please do not do that again. Thank you. I don't appreciate people calmly voicing their concerns and then getting harassed and told to "stop overreacting" or "stop complaining" so much that they delete their account. Don't do that again. Thanks. Yes, well I see LGBT agenda and loonies try to hijack other threads too step by step. But I will remain here for the people I actually like replying to and people who actually post constructive smart opinions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:51:08 GMT
I don't appreciate romance fights causing our nice and always welcoming thread on Jaal to be locked and cleaned when we asked nicely for the fighting to stop there. Please do not do that again. Thank you. I don't appreciate people calmly voicing their concerns and then getting harassed and told to "stop overreacting" or "stop complaining" so much that they delete their account. Don't do that again. Thanks. I wasn't even home when this fight happened, so don't even point a finger at me! Prince was my friend! I even said if I could give up Sara's possible romance with Jaal to make him gay I would! I came home and saw him gone. No I am not getting into this. I tried to be nice in our thread and you just kept it going. Discussion over!
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 23, 2017 21:51:41 GMT
This is my 'revised' listing...
Dr. Lexi- either bi, or unavailable. Jaal,Liam- Straight for female PeeBee, Vetra- bi Cora- Straight for male Kallo- asexual, dunno for whom Gil or Reyes- gay Suvi- lesbian
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Post by amleth on Feb 23, 2017 21:53:13 GMT
Then play a dating sim not mass effect. Jeez so this is where all the crazy from old bsn has wound up. Look, dude, it's easy to say that when you're always going to be represented in video games. LGBT players have few options in general, especially among mainstream video games. This has always been something that Bioware utilized to cultivate a certain reputation. Now that they appear to be regressing, it's no wonder a lot of LGBT people are worried, upset, etc. And the reason we're hyperfixated on romances is because the central LGBT characters tend to be the romanceable ones. That's just how it ended up. If you are willing to recommend some games and gaming companies that promise just as much if not more LGBT representation than Bioware, feel free to make some recommendations. If you aren't, then you don't really have a dog in this fight. And how do you know I'm represented? You know nothing about me. Nor is this a fight for representation. You will have you LGBT characters, Bioware has always catered to your needs. Nor is there any sign of any regression going on. Wait till more info is released, for now you lot simply don't have anything to base all this wailing on. And yes, being so fixated on pixel romance is rather creepy. If you really want to do something go outside and protest. There are very real problems out there that far outweight your lack of a gay video game character to "bang"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:53:15 GMT
I think some who feel heated should step away from their keyboards, realize this is just a game, grab a cold drink, and discuss a video game like adults. That's just me though...
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 23, 2017 21:53:26 GMT
This is my 'revised' listing... Dr. Lexi- either bi, or unavailable. Jaal,Liam- Straight for female PeeBee, Vetra- bi Cora- Straight for male Kallo- asexual, dunno for whom Gil or Reyes- gay Suvi- lesbian I think that since we might be getting 2 hetero male options, we'll also be getting another hetero female option. That's just a guess on my part though.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 23, 2017 21:54:29 GMT
It's both? And I'm not going to spend 60 dollars if the only thing I'm getting is the space exploration, which I give 0 fucks about. Sorry, I don't really care about sci-fi stuff, but I do care about banging hot dudeliens. I'm much more into high fantasy but high fantasy hasn't really given me the dating sim option lately. Then play a dating sim not mass effect. Jeez so this is where all the crazy from old bsn has wound up. There's not many dating sims that let you fondle alien nuts while having nuts, and then also go space exploring and shoot things. Sorry.
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Post by Domakir on Feb 23, 2017 21:54:50 GMT
It's both? And I'm not going to spend 60 dollars if the only thing I'm getting is the space exploration, which I give 0 fucks about. Sorry, I don't really care about sci-fi stuff, but I do care about banging hot dudeliens. I'm much more into high fantasy but high fantasy hasn't really given me the dating sim option lately. Then play a dating sim not mass effect. Jeez so this is where all the crazy from old bsn has wound up. Just out of curiosity, what's the problem with someone being more interested in the romances than in the story? I think the romances add a lot of interesting content and these games wouldn't be the same without it. Actually I started DA and ME games because of the romances, otherwise I think I wouldn't even have thought of buying them. And I also think it would not be fair if there are no m/m romances so I understand if someone doesn't want to buy the game because of that.
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 23, 2017 21:55:55 GMT
I don't appreciate romance fights causing our nice and always welcoming thread on Jaal to be locked and cleaned when we asked nicely for the fighting to stop there. Please do not do that again. Thank you. I don't appreciate people calmly voicing their concerns and then getting harassed and told to "stop overreacting" or "stop complaining" so much that they delete their account. Don't do that again. Thanks. Over and over again we sympathized with Prince's concerns. Some shared concerns of our own over the lack of a squadmate romance for gay men. Some people chose to remind us not to panic because the leaks could be false. As they are purely hearsay from friends of friends. If that's what you mean by "harassment", that's ridiculous. I have no clue who you were talking about attacking about "overreacting" but it certainly wasn't most people there. Prince didn't delete because he was attacked, the leak stress was more than he wanted to deal with. Everyone wished him well and hoped Jaal would actually be bisexual. Frankly, I'm not sure what your problem is but keep it here from now on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:58:06 GMT
Lol please I am not arguing with y'all again.
I don't understand why so many people in this community get the need to tell people to "calm down" or "stop overreacting" when they were calm do begin with. Is it a superiority thing or what?
It needs to stop. You just end up actually making people mad.
You should've hopped on the people yelling "stop complaining" instead of waiting on people to get mad at everyone telling them to stop complaining.
At least be consistent with your annoying self-righteousness.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 23, 2017 21:59:10 GMT
Look, dude, it's easy to say that when you're always going to be represented in video games. LGBT players have few options in general, especially among mainstream video games. This has always been something that Bioware utilized to cultivate a certain reputation. Now that they appear to be regressing, it's no wonder a lot of LGBT people are worried, upset, etc. And the reason we're hyperfixated on romances is because the central LGBT characters tend to be the romanceable ones. That's just how it ended up. If you are willing to recommend some games and gaming companies that promise just as much if not more LGBT representation than Bioware, feel free to make some recommendations. If you aren't, then you don't really have a dog in this fight. And how do you know I'm represented? You know nothing about me. Nor is this a fight for representation. You will have you LGBT characters, Bioware has always catered to your needs. Nor is there any sign of any regression going on. Wait till more info is released, for now you lot simply don't have anything to base all this wailing on. And yes, being so fixated on pixel romance is rather creepy. If you really want to do something go outside and protest. There are very real problems out there that far outweight your lack of a gay video game character to "bang" I think it's more that LGBT people are going to feel more and more alienated if even the company that claims to care only have them as minor NPCs and don't even give gay men a substantial squadmate role. And you're going on about the real world, but don't LGBT people deserve their own forms of escapism? You're saying that we basically have to only care about real life stuff and only devote ourselves to actual activism, as if our whole existence must be political. Maybe we feel like this is unfair. Straight people always get to expect something substantial for them and they always get a lot more options than LGBT people. As for you, you seem to be very fixated on gay people being fixated on pixels.
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 23, 2017 21:59:17 GMT
I don't understand why you're acting like we were all saying something we weren't.
But I'm done with this. You have this idea and I guess you won't let it go.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 23, 2017 21:59:25 GMT
This is my 'revised' listing... Dr. Lexi- either bi, or unavailable. Jaal,Liam- Straight for female PeeBee, Vetra- bi Cora- Straight for male Kallo- asexual, dunno for whom Gil or Reyes- gay Suvi- lesbian It's possible, but this mark up would be very disappointing. Not having a romance on the squad is one thing, but only having one out of the entirety of the squad & crew combined when everyone else has three or even four is ridiculously skewed. That said I'm still unconvinced, because I find it very difficult to believe that no-one at Bioware would have pointed this out or realized that this was an issue. And even if worst comes to worst and this is true I can see them getting a huge backlash that will result in them adding more options in DLC and the next Andromeda game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 22:02:18 GMT
Lol please I am not arguing with y'all again. I don't understand why so many people in this community get the need to tell people to "calm down" or "stop overreacting" when they were calm do begin with. Is it a superiority thing or what? It needs to stop. You just end up actually making people mad. A person left the forum and deleted their twitter handle because of this leak discussion. People are taking this seriously. If you aren't then you have nothing to worried about Let's just continue the discussion.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 23, 2017 22:03:26 GMT
Lol please I am not arguing with y'all again. I don't understand why so many people in this community get the need to tell people to "calm down" or "stop overreacting" when they were calm do begin with. Is it a superiority thing or what? It needs to stop. You just end up actually making people mad. A person left the forum and deleted their twitter handle because of this leak discussion. People are taking this seriously. If you aren't then you have nothing to worried about Wait? Someone left? Shit. I'm really sorry, guys. I knew I shouldn't have spread the leak around. This is my fault... Please, tell him I wish him well.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 23, 2017 22:05:32 GMT
This is my 'revised' listing... Dr. Lexi- either bi, or unavailable. Jaal,Liam- Straight for female PeeBee, Vetra- bi Cora- Straight for male Kallo- asexual, dunno for whom Gil or Reyes- gay Suvi- lesbian It's possible, but this mark up would be very disappointing. Not having a romance on the squad is one thing, but only having one out of the entirety of the squad & crew combined when everyone else has three or even four is ridiculously skewed. That said I'm still unconvinced, because I find it very difficult to believe that no-one at Bioware would have pointed this out or realized that this was an issue. And even if worst comes to worst and this is true I can see them getting a huge backlash that will result in them adding more options in DLC and the next Andromeda game. Lmao if BW wants to keep the male gays to a minimum in ME:A that's fine, whatever. But DA4 better be a goddamn sausagefest for the gays. We talkin' DA:I's amount of romances for straight females type of sausagefest. Goddang.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 22:06:09 GMT
I don't understand why you're acting like we were all saying something we weren't. But I'm done with this. You have this idea and I guess you won't let it go. Because you all chose to sit there and say nothing to the people who told him to "stop complaining" but then suddenly you have the balls to come at me when I tell them to fuck off. At least be consistent with your annoying self righteous bs. That goes for you AND @beautesombre
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Post by hellionrex on Feb 23, 2017 22:07:09 GMT
A person left the forum and deleted their twitter handle because of this leak discussion. People are taking this seriously. If you aren't then you have nothing to worried about Wait? Someone left? Shit. I'm really sorry, guys. I knew I shouldn't have spread the leak around. This is my fault... Please, tell him I wish him well. I don't think it was necessarily you. There is a lot of info flying around right now with little actual confirmation, and that I think contributed a lot to it.
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