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Post by kumazan on Jan 28, 2017 20:31:28 GMT
Interesting! I admit I liked ME1 and ME2 minigames more for what they tried than for what they achieved, but I like that they are giving it another try. |
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Post by javeart on Jan 28, 2017 20:34:50 GMT
just please, not to open doors  |
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Post by garrusfan1 on Jan 28, 2017 21:07:24 GMT
I actually liked some of the hacking mini games in ME2. hope they bring them back
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 28, 2017 22:20:44 GMT
If they are in and are going to be anything like the ME2 minigames...
please, god, no. Those were the most tedious and boring minigames I have ever seen. They weren't hard, they didn't challenge your brain at all... it was just sit here and wait and wait for the right string of code to pop up. Like a slow ass game of whack a mole where the moles are stuck in molasses. *shudder*
Never again please.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 22:29:58 GMT
I don't want to sound a jerk but if those people found those hacking minigames difficult they had issues. I mean you could potentially do a unintentional mistake but I can't believe they were not understanding the instructions....well I hope BW isn't scared to create more minigames because some players aren't able to solve simple logical tricks. Again don't want to sound unpolite but man are we really that bad?  My one and only complaint about the minigames in ME2 came 5 years ago ME3 was released. So, yeah, this month. The complaint was that if I was mid-hacking and was taken away from hacking and unable to ever hack the door/crate again. Minor as far as these things go. If I was required to go through a particular door I could hack it after all. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 22:31:46 GMT
I don't mind an intricate puzzle in a mission, even if I find them more annoying than fun after the first pt, but please, not more of those minigames to open doors andd get extra credits, there's not challenge and I don't enjoy the pause at all, quite the opposite At least not to open doors, I'm willing to miss the extra credits, but please not to open doors  Seriously: driving, scanning and minigames, my most three hated features in ME games, and I already have back two of them, I think I'm being punished enough  Only because I care for your wellbeing To me, this was the easiest hacking possible short of using omni-gel. I saw people having difficulty with it but I couldn't figure out why. |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 28, 2017 23:39:39 GMT
Only because I care for your wellbeing To me, this was the easiest hacking possible short of using omni-gel. I saw people having difficulty with it but I couldn't figure out why. I don't know I found that to be one of the most difficult in the game. I do have the answer though but most of the time even though I have the answer I just use the omnigel and skip it as I just find that more convenient. Usually it depends on whether I can spare it though. On my current playthrough I couldn't so had to do the puzzle but I'm through it now in my current run. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 0:18:34 GMT
Whatever hacking system they got going on I just hope we don't need to invest any squad points into it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 29, 2017 0:22:42 GMT
Whatever hacking system they got going on I just hope we don't need to invest any squad points into it. that'llikely d4epenjd on whether the door you need to unlock is necessary to the main story I'd imagine either way we'll find out in time. |
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Post by Saboru on Jan 29, 2017 0:40:27 GMT
To me, this was the easiest hacking possible short of using omni-gel. I saw people having difficulty with it but I couldn't figure out why. I don't know I found that to be one of the most difficult in the game. I do have the answer though but most of the time even though I have the answer I just use the omnigel and skip it as I just find that more convenient. Usually it depends on whether I can spare it though. On my current playthrough I couldn't so had to do the puzzle but I'm through it now in my current run. n disks are on source point, you wish to move to target point, other one is the auxillary point. If this is only 1 disk, move to target point and complete. If this is more than 1 disk apply this algorithm to n-1 disks but with labelling of target and auxillary swapped. When this is complete move remaining bottom disk to original target. Swap labelling of auxillary and source, repeat until solved. What could be easier! |
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jan 29, 2017 0:58:59 GMT
I liked the minigames and am glad they return. I preferred ME2 to ME1 because it felt a little more on point, like we were literally rewriting circuits or splicing together a script that'll grant us access as opposed to an abstract notFrogger or whatever it was. On the other hand, if for some reason you failed an ME2 minigame were you locked out? I seem to remember something about that. If so, that was a bit annoying (even if logical).
Anyway, hopefully it'll be ME2 style minigames with ME1 options (i.e. you can spend some resource to skip it/auto do it if you like). Seems like the best of both worlds.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 29, 2017 1:00:36 GMT
I don't know I found that to be one of the most difficult in the game. I do have the answer though but most of the time even though I have the answer I just use the omnigel and skip it as I just find that more convenient. Usually it depends on whether I can spare it though. On my current playthrough I couldn't so had to do the puzzle but I'm through it now in my current run. n disks are on source point, you wish to move to target point, other one is the auxillary point. If this is only 1 disk, move to target point and complete. If this is more than 1 disk apply this algorithm to n-1 disks but with labelling of target and auxillary swapped. When this is complete move remaining bottom disk to original target. Swap labelling of auxillary and source, repeat until solved. What could be easier! I know how to doit it just took me a while to figuer out is al wheras most of the other hacfking puzzles we re pretty straightforward as I mastered them straightaway. |
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Post by Saboru on Jan 29, 2017 1:17:20 GMT
n disks are on source point, you wish to move to target point, other one is the auxillary point. If this is only 1 disk, move to target point and complete. If this is more than 1 disk apply this algorithm to n-1 disks but with labelling of target and auxillary swapped. When this is complete move remaining bottom disk to original target. Swap labelling of auxillary and source, repeat until solved. What could be easier! I know how to doit it just took me a while to figuer out is al wheras most of the other hacfking puzzles we re pretty straightforward as I mastered them straightaway. Yes, it is a bit different. I assume way back when programmers felt the need to inflict it on people in revenge for data structures and algorithm design I, and it turned into an odd joke that wouldn't die. |
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Post by Cannibal on Jan 29, 2017 1:17:40 GMT
Hacking mini games? No thanks. I didn't hate them or anything in Mass Effect 1 and 2, but I didn't like them either. Eventually they just became boring, in Mass Effect 1 it got to the point I'd just ignore it or slap some omni gel on it. I can't recall if omni gel was an option in Mass Effect 2, I'm not quite there yet in my pre Andromeda(and should be but won't be my last) Mass Effect trilogy run.
Now puzzle mini games, like ToH or the Astrariums from Inquistion? Those I like.
In fact I would love to see something like the Astrariums where you need to solve a puzzle on each planet that tells a story, perhaps from a long extinct species that evolved far enough to populate multiple planets in their cluster, were never able to make it out of the cluster and eventually died off.
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Post by derrame on Jan 29, 2017 5:14:14 GMT
there are mini games, ok good
but in my opinion they could invest more resources in the story instead of having mini games, i find them annoying
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Post by degs29 on Jan 29, 2017 6:09:27 GMT
They weren't even simple logical tricks; just pattern recognition & matching. At least the 'chicken crossing' minigame in ME1 required a tiny bit of skill. That "chicken crossing" minigame was probably the best minigame they had. I'd like some minigames, but not if they're half-assed. FO: New Vegas and Witcher 3 did it right with their respective card games. Would like to see something similar here, though not necessarily a card game. I'd also prefer it be a side thing, not a main quest thing like in ME1 & ME2. |
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Post by urkibalurki on Jan 29, 2017 7:46:55 GMT
Yuck! No. They can change their mind about this so far. All Mass Effect games are story-centered; if I have to stop every 2 minutes or so to play a boring, repetitive minigame needed to open important doors I swear I'll get myself a mod to get rid of it. Some ingenious lockpicking and some clever puzzles (e. g. to crack some remnant technology) would be good; but not again this "mini circular frogger" minigame from ME or these even worse pattern-matching minigames from ME2! |
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 29, 2017 8:57:08 GMT
I'm not a big fan of minigames in Mass Effect or Dragon Age, though I did enjoy the Astrariums (perhaps it's because of the soothing music). So long as it's not that game button matching nonsense of ME1 I guess I'd accept it, even if begrudgingly. Man I was glad to have a shit-ton of omnigel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 9:16:58 GMT
 apparently we called them and they delivered. Joking aside this confirmation is great news for those of us that enjoyed those. I hope they came up with interesting puzzles minigames to keep those fresh and avoid being repetitive. We should not expect the ME2 or ME1 minigames because those are in the past so let's not jump the gun and keep an optimist attitude towards it. The last game they made DA:I had good puzzles so maybe this will be the case too. Maybe auto-hacking will be a thing provided you invested points in tech skills  .
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Post by mrfixit on Jan 29, 2017 9:41:51 GMT
I always liked puzzles and little games in my RPGs, be it hacking, racing, cards, astrariums, Tower of Hanoi, or whatever else devs think of. I hope that ME:A gives us a nice variety of different games.
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Post by DayusMakhina on Jan 29, 2017 10:12:47 GMT
Whatever hacking system they got going on I just hope we don't need to invest any squad points into it. Why oh why? Mass Effect as a game is all about choices, but when it comes to actual gameplay it's as linear as could be so the idea of having to invest skill points in certain areas to travel through certain areas would be great. Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Mankind Divided pulled this off perfectly... there were points where you could progress by hacking a certain door, or if you didn't have that skill but had different ones you could punch through a wall, jump high into a vent etc etc. It was truly non-linear gameplay, even if the end point was always the same. If ME could pull something like that off then I would love it even more. |
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Post by helios969 on Jan 29, 2017 11:38:14 GMT
In ME1, the fourth time I had to play that circular minigame to open a door I got bored. In ME2, the second time I had to play that "match two" minigame to open a door I got VERY bored; and the first time I had to play this "hacking" minigame to open a safe I got pissed off. So I got a mod to disable them (there's no such mod for ME1, unfortunately). I was very happy when they ditched these crap minigames in ME3, and I hope they won't put them in ME:A. It's a matter of taste. I got bored by ME3 press to win button. No challenge at all. I'm not advocating the return of specifically those minigames (albeit I still want the Tower of Hanoi) but I'd welcome new minigames to take their place. I liked Bioshock hacking pipe system and found it quite challenging. I liked the Astrarium of DA:I. The hacking in Deus Ex:MD is also quite fun. Plus having hacking minigames could gave some meaning to pursuing tech skills (other than combat) thus becoming better at hacking. If you can't open a safe you will miss out on loot. I think it's a quite neat thing because it encourage multiple gameplay and diversification of playstyles. Streamlining only kills roleplaying and replayability. Devs nowadays like to appease immediately the gamer instead of encouraging different approaches to the same situation. I missed the old times when you get to chests and the game told you "Tough luck you have no skill for opening this chest. Sorry bro!". Then you will make another gameplay with lockpicking skills just to open the damn thing. Yeah, it's byproduct of this generations' "everybody gets a trophy for participating" mentality. I understand that you want to encourage kids to keep trying, which is fine, but I think it's better to have them try harder. I still remember the feeling of devastation of losing in the youth football championship game and watching the other team collect that big ass trophy. It motivated the hell out of us to get better. As far as minigames go was there anything better than Citadel DLC's combat simulator? I want something like that from the get-go right on the Tempest. The hacking and scanning stuff was pretty lame imo. Bio can toss that out the airlock. |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 29, 2017 12:40:52 GMT
Yuck! No. They can change their mind about this so far. All Mass Effect games are story-centered; if I have to stop every 2 minutes or so to play a boring, repetitive minigame needed to open important doors I swear I'll get myself a mod to get rid of it. Some ingenious lockpicking and some clever puzzles (e. g. to crack some remnant technology) would be good; but not again this "mini circular frogger" minigame from ME or these even worse pattern-matching minigames from ME2! ewll if your on PC I'm sure someone wil come out with a mod that gets around it eventually |
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Post by noviere on Jan 29, 2017 16:38:56 GMT
I didn't mind them in ME2, though I have to admit they wore out their welcome by the end of the game. I really hated the override minigame in ME1 though.
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