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Post by zered on Jan 30, 2017 8:27:27 GMT
Im kind of glad the new story is detachhed from the old ones. Sure I miss the old crew and Shep but after the debacle of the last ending and the story mess that all the color-endings provided I just prefer to start anew with a clean slate.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 30, 2017 12:17:40 GMT
I think there were such things, but they are long forgotten. ANDROMEDA PLOT TWIST: "Pathfinder" is in fact, the name of Scott Ryder's penis and Sarah Ryder's omni-strap-on. Love will find a path. Sometimes love can find 2 or 3 paths. Very true
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Post by wolfsite on Jan 30, 2017 12:23:36 GMT
If they did put anything in from the original trilogy you know people will just complain about that saying they want a "Fresh Start" and not be constantly reminded of past adventures.
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Post by LadyCass on Jan 30, 2017 13:08:44 GMT
If anything, I suspect they will do a conversation where you can choose the gender of Shephard and how the Battle of the Citadel went down, which will be referenced in the Nexus Archives as part of the history books. As much as I'd love a holographic statue of my Shephard there, it would be too much work I think .
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Jan 30, 2017 14:30:41 GMT
If they did put anything in from the original trilogy you know people will just complain about that saying they want a "Fresh Start" and not be constantly reminded of past adventures. It's already been confirmed by Mac Walters, that there will be several references to 'pre-launch' MW lore/characters/universe bits: with Shepard confirmed to be mentioned as well. Obviously, no character decisions can be taken into account to confirm a canon lore-set, but I for one am glad they are not rebooting, but going on a wide tangent instead (by leaving the MW). Personally, I'm glad it's a fresh start for sure, but also glad that the base lore isn't being tampered with or disrespected/abandoned in terms of any unnecessary redacting of previous world building (ME Universe Codex etc).
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 30, 2017 17:11:42 GMT
I don't see why they had to do the AI aside from, I guess, having to say that destroy was the "canon" (or one of the other options) ending.
Seeing as how the MW is only 1% explored or whatever. You could have gone anywhere in the MW, just like the AI with FTL and stasis, as the Mass Relays wouldn't be functioning. They could have made up new aliens just as easily as they can for Andromeda.
Or hell, have it set however many hundreds of years in the future where mass relays, reapers, and all that are just a myth to the ancestors of the survivors of the final battle vs the reapers.
But anyway,
the lore is the main thing that needs to come along from the MW and the OT. Don't need any connections to the shepard saga though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 17:14:37 GMT
If anything, the reason we might not see Quarians or Geth is because of the ME3 choices. We have the option of destroying both and neither joined the Initiative. It was just the Council's people and Krogan. Other than that, anything Shep did will most likely not affect MEA.
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Post by jagaro on Jan 30, 2017 17:28:44 GMT
I believe that in-game someone will ask your Ryder a few questions after awakening from cryo.
That may be what sets certain historical facts for your playthrough but won't make any impact on the overall story.
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Post by wolfsite on Jan 30, 2017 19:20:13 GMT
If they did put anything in from the original trilogy you know people will just complain about that saying they want a "Fresh Start" and not be constantly reminded of past adventures. It's already been confirmed by Mac Walters, that there will be several references to 'pre-launch' MW lore/characters/universe bits: with Shepard confirmed to be mentioned as well. Obviously, no character decisions can be taken into account to confirm a canon lore-set, but I for one am glad they are not rebooting, but going on a wide tangent instead (by leaving the MW). Personally, I'm glad it's a fresh start for sure, but also glad that the base lore isn't being tampered with or disrespected/abandoned in terms of any unnecessary redacting of previous world building (ME Universe Codex etc). That was a Joke......
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 30, 2017 19:25:45 GMT
OP assumes that anything will only matter as long as it's built upon in a sequel. Nah, it already matters just within the 3 games that are currently released. You can't take away the meaning unless Andromeda sweeps in and retcons everything, which I fail to see how it's supposed to even do.
Worst case scenario is something like Andromeda introducing a new twist and going "What if I told you that Milky Way was a computer-program, and what you thought were your cryo-sleep were you being disconnected from that program" or something that downright erases or retcons the trilogy events.
If Andromeda doesn't touch the trilogy in any way it means the Trilogy remains every bit as meaningful as it was without Andromeda's existence.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 30, 2017 19:41:48 GMT
I really doubt that what happened in the original trilogy will matter in the first game, but it would be neat to travel to the milky way at some point and see what were the repercussions of every ending, that would be a really big narrative hook there.
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Post by n7rhysj on Jan 30, 2017 19:53:48 GMT
They might set it out like they did in ME2 aww your out of cryo lets see if your memory works. and you pick up to arrival pretty much coz the AI leaves after that but before ME3
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Post by unclee on Jan 30, 2017 20:29:14 GMT
Post-ME1? No, it's unlikely they bring anything in unless it's inconsequential. Bioware is setting Andromeda when and where it is specifically to avoid having to deal with the messy continuity ME2/ME3 would bring along with it.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Jan 30, 2017 20:38:08 GMT
I think eventually we will go back to our universe in say a few decades or so after andromeda and given the trip there took six hundred years I think more then enough time would have passed to make things easy to ignore. Even if they made something that could send people back as fast as a mass relay could. MAybe liara would still be alive and maybe grunt but that would be pretty much it from the ME trilogy. And the endinging would be irrelevant at that point (except the refuse ending but that doesn't count to me). In destroy they could just act like it never happened or not mention it except maybe a destroyed planet. In control they could say the reapers helped rebuild and then left. syntheisis could be just mentioned in passing. See no problems at all
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Post by garrusfan1 on Jan 30, 2017 20:39:03 GMT
If they did put anything in from the original trilogy you know people will just complain about that saying they want a "Fresh Start" and not be constantly reminded of past adventures. people will complain about anything.
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Post by tehprincessj on Jan 31, 2017 1:28:06 GMT
So, really, is that what you're looking for? IDK, little references? The kind of stuff that makes BioWare games great? Some kind of indication that this is the universe we've been playing in for nearly a decade? Easter eggs?!? Don't get me wrong, I approve of the time jump and the new galaxy. ME3 is a can of worms whose consequences I'm glad we will be well away from. I guess I was just looking for a little more of a tie-in to the space and time this mission was born of. If anything, I suspect they will do a conversation where you can choose the gender of Shephard and how the Battle of the Citadel went down, which will be referenced in the Nexus Archives as part of the history books. As much as I'd love a holographic statue of my Shephard there, it would be too much work I think . I can live with this.
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Post by projectpatdc on Jan 31, 2017 1:28:43 GMT
I still think the main reason for leaving is ultimately because of the potential threat of the reapers. Leaving the milky way galaxy before its purged makes for a good reason not to have the game set in the MY. We know from one the first trailers in 2015 that Shepard is addressing the Andromeda crew so its possible that Shepard is one of the big players behind the initiative (Video below). We also know the initiative is funded by big players so I think the 1st trilogy may come back full circle in later games. The Andromeda Initiative is supposed to somehow create a bridge between the two galaxies. My bet is we'll revisit the Milky Way eventually (again another game) or see how it has shaped 600+ years later. Pretty simple to pick one the four endings as well from ME3 to see how it shapes out 600 years later. And even cooler imo to eventually work side by side with the reapers (now immortal shepard in god form) to eventually eliminate some new threat hundreds of years later. (Andromeda Galaxy is dying due to some force {it's believed to be dying in real life}, there's no way any of the races will escape in time because they cannot travel that fast, but then somehow the reapers aka immortal shepard helps them escape back to the milky way along with all the new intelligent species from andromeda)
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 31, 2017 1:37:01 GMT
Thanks to Walters and Hudson....nope, nothing will matter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 1:44:16 GMT
Thanks to Walters and Hudson....nope, nothing will matter.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 31, 2017 1:46:32 GMT
Thanks to Walters and Hudson....nope, nothing will matter. given what I know about the ME3 creation process I believe that meme is more accurate than you know...
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jan 31, 2017 10:49:34 GMT
If you are referring to Lore wise then yes we still have Mass Effect fields and at the very least Biotics.
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The DA Keep was used to carry choices into Inquisition from DA:O and DA2 -which ALL took place on the same stage just at different times into DA:I.
ME:A takes place in a future time and is also far off on a completely different stage.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 31, 2017 12:15:24 GMT
Thanks to Walters and Hudson....nope, nothing will matter. Did you know Shepard was envisioned as Jack Bauer in space and every mission would be like an episode of 24? You can tell that's how Casey still saw it near the final parts of development, even. He defaulted Renegade. No wonder he picked Mac Walters as the new lead writer after making "that nerd" Drew Karpyshyn walk away after 2. No wonder ME3 became a lot of auto-renegade Shepard. www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=141
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 31, 2017 12:27:30 GMT
If anything, I suspect they will do a conversation where you can choose the gender of Shephard and how the Battle of the Citadel went down, which will be referenced in the Nexus Archives as part of the history books. ... This is my expectation. Happened in the shuttle at the start of Mass Effect 2. The Witcher III did pretty much this after the first Act.
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Post by kumazan on Jan 31, 2017 12:32:45 GMT
If anything, I suspect they will do a conversation where you can choose the gender of Shephard and how the Battle of the Citadel went down, which will be referenced in the Nexus Archives as part of the history books. ... This is my expectation. Happened in the shuttle at the start of Mass Effect 2. The Witcher III did pretty much this after the first Act. I don't expect even that. You can reference Shepard without any mention to their gender, and you can also have a brief description of the Battle of the Citadel without mention of the Council's fate. The latter might feel a bit incomplete, but the former is definitely feasible.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 31, 2017 12:34:49 GMT
Bear in mind Dragon Age's main character is the setting and was always designed to be changed over several years by several individual protagonist's influences on it, and therefore the Keep and such is so important to each game in that series.
Andromeda is specifically trying to avoid past canon aside from the progenitor lore of Mass Effect like Jon Grissom, the charon relay, first contact war, Cerberus's infancy etc. so don't expect the game to reference everything you did until 2185 except vague mentions of "the hero of the citadel" or "Shepard" with no gender-specific mentions. Either way it probably doesn't matter.
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