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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 31, 2017 12:39:52 GMT
Or in the character creation section: Do you want to record the events of the Trilogy?: Yes/No and a few checkboxes...
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 31, 2017 12:41:55 GMT
But why? This is a soft-reboot. It borrows the essential lore from the original IP and takes it with to the next generation of Mass Effect and then focuses on Andromeda as a new setting. The whole point of this game isn't to reconnect with Milky Way (despite stating that this is the Ai's goal). If that ever happens it's the sopranos fade-to-black ending. The point of this game is to recreate Mass Effect with no strings attatched and to redesign it for this era of video games. It's like a second-wind of the franchise.
It's like Batman Beyond. If we're lucky maybe they can make a Return of the Joker but preliminarily it's not the point to move away from the original canon only to reconnect with it in the same game that tries to establish and focus on the new lore of Andromeda.
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Post by fredvdp on Jan 31, 2017 12:48:08 GMT
If anything, I suspect they will do a conversation where you can choose the gender of Shephard and how the Battle of the Citadel went down, which will be referenced in the Nexus Archives as part of the history books. ... This is my expectation. Happened in the shuttle at the start of Mass Effect 2. The Witcher III did pretty much this after the first Act. And Obsidian's KotOR II is also a good example. I like how Witcher 3 gave the player three options on how to do it. There was a straight save import, the conversation you mentioned, or just a default world state. Witcher 3's plot was so disconnected to the first two games, however, that the choices were very trivial. It doesn't even take into account that one major sidequest character from Witcher 3 could have died in Witcher 1. The most meaningful variable that got imported was whether or not Geralt had the tattoo on his neck.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 31, 2017 12:57:14 GMT
I honestly thought Witcher 3 had Mass Effect 3's way of tackling past choices. Letho's involvement was super cheap and other choices just have you reunite with an old companion just to find out that they die or leave right away, and they defaulted Vernon Roche as your buddy despite of choosing Iorveth in Witcher 2 just like they always pick Udina to be councilor so Anderson can stay on Earth in ME3's plot (one of the biggest wasted opportunities, all because they wanted to make the save-earth plot)
It was just a good piece of fanservice. After all, the Witcher trilogy isn't a real trilogy save from being 3 games featuring the same protagonist and his friends. The central conflict of TW3 has nothing to do with whatever the story was in TW1 or TW2. I did like how they brought the political developments from TW2 into 3's continuity though... if only they could've avoided making it so terribly one-sided after what they did to Radovid.
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Post by zered on Jan 31, 2017 15:02:41 GMT
The central conflict of TW3 has nothing to do with whatever the story was in TW1 or TW2. I did like how they brought the political developments from TW2 into 3's continuity though... if only they could've avoided making it so terribly one-sided after what they did to Radovid. Wat? At the end of Witcher 1 you face of with the Wild Hunt. Also de Aldersberg is trying to stop the White Frost in W1, the same one Ciri stops at the ending of W3.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 31, 2017 15:09:50 GMT
But why? This is a soft-reboot. It borrows the essential lore from the original IP and takes it with to the next generation of Mass Effect and then focuses on Andromeda as a new setting. The whole point of this game isn't to reconnect with Milky Way (despite stating that this is the Ai's goal). If that ever happens it's the sopranos fade-to-black ending. The point of this game is to recreate Mass Effect with no strings attatched and to redesign it for this era of video games. It's like a second-wind of the franchise. You're saying it's a soft reboot. BioWare isn't saying that. They're saying there will be references to the trilogy.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 31, 2017 15:30:12 GMT
Yes, because they know people will flip out if they realize they're playing a soft-reboot. The question i have is what will it matter to the story of Andromeda to have a lot of continuity from the trilogy via choice-import? I can only see this as counterproductive to what BioWare has been wanting to do by moving to a new setting with new species and lore. There's only so much you can do with one game. Adding in references is easy peasy and harmless, but having to incorpoarte variable choices just to do this when you can just as easily get away with "commander shepard" than "she/he" is unnecessary work.
And what kind of message does it send to have the option of "did you play as male or female Shepard?" upon creating a new save? It reminds you of the trilogy and at worst sets up expectations that work against the focus of this game. We aren't getting anymore Shepard and we are moving away from the Milky Way so we don't have to deal with the Milky Way anymore (until this saga is over). References is an act of goodwill, it's not going to impact the plot, so why waste money and time on it?
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 31, 2017 15:53:12 GMT
The central conflict of TW3 has nothing to do with whatever the story was in TW1 or TW2. I did like how they brought the political developments from TW2 into 3's continuity though... if only they could've avoided making it so terribly one-sided after what they did to Radovid. Wat? At the end of Witcher 1 you face of with the Wild Hunt. Also de Aldersberg is trying to stop the White Frost in W1, the same one Ciri stops at the ending of W3. You have amnesia and there is no mention of Ciri being chased by the Hunt. You do not know they're out to kill your daughter that you don't even remember and as such the Wild Hunt itself is not the central conflict, nor is the relationship with Geralt and his daughter. The main conflict of TW1 is a fanfic plot where a new kid, Alvin, is the plot of Azar Javed and his Professor companion and the witcher Berengar that has vanished, and in the end of this mystery you face Jacques de Aldersberg who threatened the world with the White Frost or something... lol I can't remember, it's been way too long but it's not the same core conflict as TW2 or 3 because the Wild Hunt is not established as the antagonist until the third game and Ithline's Prophecy isn't the threat that looms over everything. Lord of the Rings has Sauron and the Ring as the constant force that drive the plot. Matrix has the machines and well... the Matrix itself. Mass Effect has the Reapers Harry Potter has Voldemort. As a series the Witcher games aren't really a proper trilogy. They're a saga like Andromeda is allegedly going to be (if they make a sequel)
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Post by fiannawolf on Jan 31, 2017 17:32:15 GMT
I agree, its definitely a soft reboot.
Ill be quite shocked if the new books/comics or some of the codex stuff mentions Shep and crew beyond, "And so we leave Milky Way behind! Lets hope Shepard did well."
If they decide to link Andromeda and MWG in later games, it will be so far in the future for our home galaxy that Shepard's actions will fade into various Myths and Legends.
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Post by DextroDNA on Jan 31, 2017 19:05:53 GMT
I imagine the most we're going to get is references to Saren and the geth, the Battle of the Citadel, Shepard's death/resurrection and the Collector attacks on human colonies.
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Post by andros01 on Jan 31, 2017 19:35:59 GMT
then why were we told to keep our saves I thought they were referring to the Andromeda Saves for future use, not the ME Trilogy.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 31, 2017 19:38:48 GMT
then why were we told to keep our saves I thought they were referring to the Andromeda Saves for future use, not the ME Trilogy. Well there's probably always the chance that it can be used for something in the future, even a remaster that let you convert the save to PS4s and shit.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 31, 2017 21:05:38 GMT
then why were we told to keep our saves I thought they were referring to the Andromeda Saves for future use, not the ME Trilogy. that's what I think they mean as well.
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Post by deadgoon on Feb 1, 2017 6:51:57 GMT
All i expect is codex entries along the lines of commander Shepard becoming the first human spectre on such & such a date, Shepard played a lead role during the battle of the Citadel with a multi species crew ( insert crew names & species ) etc, there'll be no mention of Shepards gender because there's no need to mention it, that & it would be easier for them if they didn't mention it, & i don't expect nor frankly want any thing more than that.
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Post by Dark King on Feb 1, 2017 7:35:46 GMT
The only thing that I can think of from the original trilogy that they might be able to include and that anyone would really care about are the Rachni. But I think that would be pushing it. Aside from that it will probably just be codex entries and maybe meeting distant relatives of people Shepard knew.
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