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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 18:34:30 GMT
SAM = Ellen Ryder. That was kept a secret. Ellen Ryder didn't just help develop SAM, she is SAM. Aided by the illusive man and project overlord technology. She could have been dying from a degenerative condition. SAM also stands for Scott/Saras Actual Mother. In payment, Cora Harper, the illusive mans daughter, was given a prominent position on the expedition, as Alec Ryders second in command, to further humanities interests in the helios cluster. +1 for the awesome acronym.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 18:37:06 GMT
Option 1: Mommy is long dead. Option 2: Mommy is the main antagonist and the Kett leader.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 18:39:15 GMT
Option 1: Mommy is long dead. Option 2: Mommy is the main antagonist and the Kett leader. That ring around the Kett guy's skull ... what do you think it is? IT'S ALEC AND ELLEN'S WEDDING RING!
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Post by themikefest on Jan 30, 2017 18:41:05 GMT
MomRyder divorces her stupid husband after learning he signed up to go to Andromeda. She wasn't happy to hear that her kids were going as well, but realized they were old enough to make their own decisions.
She is currently in Hawaii on the beach drinking Pina Colada's beside her new boy-toy Carlos
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 18:43:43 GMT
That's my mom, Ellen.
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Jan 30, 2017 20:56:59 GMT
-Disappeared in dark space. Some kind of plot bunny convinces Dad!Ryder that she ended up in Andromeda. Mystery ensues. Then by some weird mutation, turns into the Archon. Mac Walters did say "He?" when asked about the Kett leader. Also the reason why she doesn't go (Assuming the "I am Archon." voice was during the hailing scene) SON/DAUGHTER!!! is because she vanished when the twins were young, likely not being able to tell who they are as adults.
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Post by projectpatdc on Jan 30, 2017 23:03:49 GMT
Honestly, I don't want any lore related to Shepard or anything she/he was involved in the archives or to be ever mentioned in Andromeda. I don't need the shadow of my old character still following me. This trailer from 2015 with female Shepard speaking in regards to the Andromeda crew makes me think Shepard won't be completely gone anytime soon.
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Post by maxon on Jan 30, 2017 23:47:03 GMT
Hopefully she'll appear at some point, or maybe Alec has her audio logs that we'll be able to listen to. Voiced by Sigourney Weaver. For reasons. Good reasons.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 31, 2017 1:16:53 GMT
Her intelligence was digitized and she is now SAM...
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Post by hector535 on Jan 31, 2017 3:27:46 GMT
My admittedly lame 'theory' is that they're keeping the mother a secret, so as to make room for the possibility that the twins can be customizable w/ respect to skin color etc. while remaining the biological offspring of papa Ryder. E.g., my Ryder will be black; so in order for him to be Alec's biological son, the mother would need to be black as well. Being the biological offspring could be significant in some way. Now that I think about it that's why she can't be shown, that would be hilarious though. Seeing your white parents and then you're asian lol.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 31, 2017 3:33:24 GMT
Just no Franken-mom, pretty please. Why does BioWare always feel the need to kill my mom? 😭 Doesn't kill Spacer Shepard's mom.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jan 31, 2017 6:44:52 GMT
How do we know her name is Ellen?
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 31, 2017 6:48:55 GMT
My admittedly lame 'theory' is that they're keeping the mother a secret, so as to make room for the possibility that the twins can be customizable w/ respect to skin color etc. while remaining the biological offspring of papa Ryder. E.g., my Ryder will be black; so in order for him to be Alec's biological son, the mother would need to be black as well. Being the biological offspring could be significant in some way. Now that I think about it that's why she can't be shown, that would be hilarious though. Seeing your white parents and then you're asian lol. Well, there's always adoption.
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Post by umgayeb on Jan 31, 2017 7:45:18 GMT
Her getting killed during one of the events from ME1/ME2 is definitely a strong possibility. The way the devs have mentioned the "Ryder family mystery" makes me wonder if there's something deeper. Other thoughts: -She was indoctrinated. -She was imprisoned for life for illegal work on an AI. -They got divorced, now it's awkward. -Died at childbirth. -Disappeared in dark space. Some kind of plot bunny convinces Dad!Ryder that she ended up in Andromeda. Mystery ensues. -Mom!Ryder made come kind of crazy discovery about Andromeda, then died under suspicious circumstances before she could reveal it. -No one ever helps her with the dishes in this god damn house. Tell me more about this plot bunny... It looks a little like this, except with lasers and biotics and romance options.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jan 31, 2017 9:08:39 GMT
How do we know her name is Ellen? Never mind. Found it. Seriously! I hate how everything has gone to twitter. Shame for those of us who hate blow-by-blow social media. More likely than not one of two scenarios for Mrs. Alec Ryder: 1. She was not accepted into the Andromeda Initiative so now being 600 years later -she is dead (cry about it later -we got a game to do). 2. She may be on board the expedition but because of her importance is living under another name for the protection of the kids.
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Post by Ahriman on Jan 31, 2017 9:27:02 GMT
How do we know her name is Ellen? Never mind. Found it. Seriously! I hate how everything has gone to twitter. Shame for those of us who hate blow-by-blow social media. Huh? Info comes from latest briefing. Well, that's just counter-dramatic. Protection of 20+ years old kids with combat training and last-gen combat implants? Besides it's not like DadRyder wasn't hinted to be a single father since the moment "Ryder" was mentioned.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jan 31, 2017 9:39:01 GMT
Never mind. Found it. Seriously! I hate how everything has gone to twitter. Shame for those of us who hate blow-by-blow social media. Huh? Info comes from latest briefing.Well, that's just counter-dramatic.Protection of 20+ years old kids with combat training and last-gen combat implants? Besides it's not like DadRyder wasn't hinted to be a single father since the moment "Ryder" was mentioned. Really? First place I found it was on twitter. Alas I can't watch the videos at high resolution -480p is max I am allowed on to view things on Youtube so I would surmise that is the max for my connection speed. Makes seeing all the info in the briefings barely visible if at all -unless the text takes up half the video. Is it not true? Touche` Though there has always been the family angle to Bioware games in one way or another - in a usual painful way (Jade Empire, DA:O-->DA:I, KOTOR). I just see it more likely than not they pull something with the mother that carries just as much weight as with the father. Perfect way to do this is to make them some one important. I know. It is far fetched but at least it is not like saying Jien Garson would be the mother. NO. That is going to far.
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Post by leonick on Jan 31, 2017 9:56:20 GMT
Alas I can't watch the videos at high resolution -480p is max I am allowed on to view things on Youtube so I would surmise that is the max for my connection speed. Makes seeing all the info in the briefings barely visible if at all -unless the text takes up half the video.
Or browser / device can't handle the 720p or 1080p versions. Don't think Youtube remove the settings based on bandwidth, they didn't use to anyway, they have the auto setting after all. In any case, the texts are hard to read even on the HD videos but Ellen's name came from the bio for SAM. "The First Pathfinder neural implants were created by Dr. Ellen Ryder, a pioneer in human biotic implant design."
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jan 31, 2017 10:07:48 GMT
Alas I can't watch the videos at high resolution -480p is max I am allowed on to view things on Youtube so I would surmise that is the max for my connection speed. Makes seeing all the info in the briefings barely visible if at all -unless the text takes up half the video.
Or browser / device can't handle the 720p or 1080p versions. Don't think Youtube remove the settings based on bandwidth, they didn't use to anyway, they have the auto setting after all. In any case, the texts are hard to read even on the HD videos but Ellen's name came from the bio for SAM. "The First Pathfinder neural implants were created by Dr. Ellen Ryder, a pioneer in human biotic implant design." I have the auto setting when viewing videos and many times it will default to 144 or the 200 -only if I'm real lucky and my internet is having a good day can I get the 480p one. Also thank you for the exact quote.
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Post by stysiaq on Jan 31, 2017 10:12:08 GMT
My guess is she left Alec Ryder to have loads of Asari sex and perished in what is commonly known as Multiple Rapid Contacts War.
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Post by sabretastic on Jan 31, 2017 10:47:27 GMT
All the SAMspiracies in here. I love it! I personally wouldn't be opposed to a nod to 'UNC:Rogue VI' from ME1.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 10:57:01 GMT
All the SAMspiracies in here. I love it! I personally wouldn't be opposed to a nod to 'UNC:Rogue VI' from ME1. You mean EDI? Because that's what that VI became. Also, though people seem to hate the notion of Cerberus involvement in the A.I., could SAM have benefited from Cerberus's work on EDI? Perhaps they're twins, kind of.
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Post by kumazan on Jan 31, 2017 11:06:00 GMT
All the SAMspiracies in here. I love it! I personally wouldn't be opposed to a nod to 'UNC:Rogue VI' from ME1. You mean EDI? Because that's what that VI became. Also, though people seem to hate the notion of Cerberus involvement in the A.I., could SAM have benefited from Cerberus's work on EDI? Perhaps they're twins, kind of. I hope not. I they want SAM to have some kind of nod to the Trilogy, I'd prefer if it was codeveloped by Lorik Qui'in's team in SI.
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Post by sabretastic on Jan 31, 2017 11:16:18 GMT
All the SAMspiracies in here. I love it! I personally wouldn't be opposed to a nod to 'UNC:Rogue VI' from ME1. You mean EDI? Because that's what that VI became. Also, though people seem to hate the notion of Cerberus involvement in the A.I., could SAM have benefited from Cerberus's work on EDI? Perhaps they're twins, kind of. I didn't mean to suggest that SAM is/was the VI because I knew that that was EDI, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they didn't benefit from each other in some fashion. I was thinking of a connection to that mission more along the lines of Elen being a casualty of the VI when it 'went rogue'--for reasons that were never totally disclosed/confirmed as far as I am aware. But I'm probably also erring on the side of giving Cerberus too much credit and involvement in the goings on of the Initiative and the Ryder parents for my own little theories. That's not to say that I agree with the organisation, this just strikes me as exactly the sort of thing TIM would have his fingers in.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jan 31, 2017 17:07:59 GMT
Character related. Going for a ride...
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