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Post by armass81 on Feb 2, 2017 14:20:46 GMT
Perhaps, but I don't think I'm ready to jump in and say they're allies just yet. Surely some of them will be, but I'm actually hoping for a bit more complexity between the races than just "These are the good aliens" and "These are the bad aliens". With Mac Walters at the helm, i wouldnt hold my breath.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:23:44 GMT
Well considering we are unwanted guests they want us to take our leave and stop meddling in their turf.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:27:17 GMT
Perhaps, but I don't think I'm ready to jump in and say they're allies just yet. Surely some of them will be, but I'm actually hoping for a bit more complexity between the races than just "These are the good aliens" and "These are the bad aliens". With Mac Walters at the helm, i wouldnt hold my breath. I wasn't the kinda person who followed various writers and such when I played the original trilogy, so admittedly the name doesn't mean all that much to me. Was he the one that did the endings, or...?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:28:36 GMT
To make andromeda great again obviously In your honor!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:30:01 GMT
Ah, according to my research, Khett will have dibbs on one of the following Agendas:
1. Philosophically-driven purge of the known Universe of every lifeform more complex than a fungus. Life sucks. Let’s extinguish it. It’s for the greater good, dummy. Actually, let's burn out the less complex lifeforms too. In a grand apocalyptic explosion of as enormous a radius as we can come up with. Galaxy-wide is the best, but a planet by planet makes for awesome snap-shots.
2. Imperial building on steroids. Anything not-Khett is inferior to Khett, therefore must bow to Khett. You who not bow, Khett kills with their marvelous technology, good looks and amazing brains.
3. Alas, there is only one occupation available to a Khett. A noble Warrior. Khett’s approach to job creation is simple. Put them all on a weapon loaded spaceship armada (with a suprising abundance of blade weapons), and send them to conquer… something, somewhere. Oouff. Now, to finding the next conquest destination for another 100 billion born and bred professional soldiers. Retraining brings dishonor, and a sucky afterlife.
4. R-r-r-revenge. They were w-r-r-r-ronged. Oh, so w-r-r-r-ronged. Biting back bitter tears, angst and indignation, Khett slaughter their way through heartbreak in an effort to drown their grief in blood. I suffer, you suffer, he suffers, we suffer, you suffer, they suffer. All suffer. V.tragic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:31:52 GMT
Ah, according to my research, Khett will have dibbs on one of the following Agendas: 1. Philosophically-driven purge of the known Universe of every lifeform more complex than a fungus. Life sucks. Let’s extinguish it. It’s for the greater good, dummy. Actually, let's burn out the less complex lifeforms too. In a grand apocalyptic explosion of as enormous a radius as we can come up with. Galaxy-wide is the best, but a planet by planet makes for awesome snap-shots. 2. Imperial building on steroids. Anything not-Khett is inferior to Khett, therefore must bow to Khett. You who not bow, Khett kills with their marvelous technology, good looks and amazing brains. 3. Alas, there is only one occupation available to a Khett. A noble Warrior. Khett’s approach to job creation is simple. Put them all on a weapon loaded spaceship armada (with a suprising abundance of blade weapons), and send them to conquer… something, somewhere. Oouff. Now, to finding the next conquest destination for another 100 billion born and bred professional soldiers. Retraining brings dishonor, and a sucky afterlife. 4. R-r-r-revenge. They were w-r-r-r-ronged. Oh, so w-r-r-r-ronged. Biting back bitter tears, angst and indignation, Khett slaughter their way through heartbreak in an effort to drown their grief in blood. I suffer, you suffer, he suffers, we suffer, you suffer, they suffer. All suffer. V.tragic. That was a journey.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 2, 2017 14:35:26 GMT
To bang all the new aliens from MW
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:37:43 GMT
To bang all the new aliens from MW You know, to them, Ryder is an alien.
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Post by armass81 on Feb 2, 2017 14:37:54 GMT
With Mac Walters at the helm, i wouldnt hold my breath. I wasn't the kinda person who followed various writers and such when I played the original trilogy, so admittedly the name doesn't mean all that much to me. Was he the one that did the endings, or...? Lead writer of both ME2 and ME3, and the reason for the huge tonal shift in the series... id say fo the worse. This man cant hold a candle to any of the other writers or even Karpyshyn. Tough hes done some decent characters, hes awful at plot and seems to stick to simplifications, handwaving, holes and retcons. Its like if a teenager tries to create this huge intricate novel, but then you read it and its still the insides of a mind of a teenager you know, not very deep at all, with huge explosions and alot of female booty to cover it all up. And yes apparently he was part of the duo that did the ending, with Casey apparently, without the concent or output of other writers. I dont get why he gets these huge promotion positions, maybe its the "good brother club" inside Bioware or something- connections despite output. Lets also not forget that Casey Hudson(whos already left) also personally greenlighted the aptly named novel "Deception", one of the worst farces in this series.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:40:44 GMT
I wasn't the kinda person who followed various writers and such when I played the original trilogy, so admittedly the name doesn't mean all that much to me. Was he the one that did the endings, or...? Lead writer of both ME2 and ME3, and the reason for the huge tonal shift in the series... id say fo the worse. This man cant hold a candle to any of the other writers or even Karpyshyn. Tough hes done some decent characters, hes awful at plot and seems to stick to simplifications, handwaving, holes and retcons. And yes apparently he was part of the duo that did the ending, with Casey apparently, without the concent or output of other writers. I dont get why he get these huge promotion positions, maybe its the "good brother club" inside Bioware or something- connections despite output. Lets also not forget that Casey Hudson(whos already left) also personally greenlighted the aptly named novel "Deception", on of the worst farces in this series. Well, uh... ME2 was good? Mostly. Basically, he's Zack Snyder? Good eye for details, decent writer, but for the love of God don't give him a leading position? I'm very unfamiliar with the novels though, lol. I'll have to get someone to describe how bad it is to me someday.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 2, 2017 14:43:03 GMT
To bang all the new aliens from MW You know, to them, Ryder is an alien. Hence my statement. ALL the new aliens.
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Post by armass81 on Feb 2, 2017 14:44:54 GMT
Lead writer of both ME2 and ME3, and the reason for the huge tonal shift in the series... id say fo the worse. This man cant hold a candle to any of the other writers or even Karpyshyn. Tough hes done some decent characters, hes awful at plot and seems to stick to simplifications, handwaving, holes and retcons. And yes apparently he was part of the duo that did the ending, with Casey apparently, without the concent or output of other writers. I dont get why he get these huge promotion positions, maybe its the "good brother club" inside Bioware or something- connections despite output. Lets also not forget that Casey Hudson(whos already left) also personally greenlighted the aptly named novel "Deception", on of the worst farces in this series. Well, uh... ME2 was good? Mostly. Basically, he's Zack Snyder? Good eye for details, decent writer, but for the love of God don't give him a leading position? I'm very unfamiliar with the novels though, lol. I'll have to get someone to describe how bad it is to me someday. It was good, but it could have been so much better. its not good as the second part of the trilogy. Most of the game is 12 little stories wove around a skeleton of a plot, that doesnt advance anythign really. Thats ME2. Also pretty much the reason why we get the deus ex crucible in the start of ME3.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 2, 2017 14:45:38 GMT
How else do you think Archon arrives at the conclusion of "now I know why you're special!" ?? uh huh. (all the bangs)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:46:44 GMT
Well, uh... ME2 was good? Mostly. Basically, he's Zack Snyder? Good eye for details, decent writer, but for the love of God don't give him a leading position? I'm very unfamiliar with the novels though, lol. I'll have to get someone to describe how bad it is to me someday. It was good, but it could have been so much better. its not good as the second part of the trilogy. Most of the game is 12 little stories wove around a skeleton of a plot, that doesnt advance anythign really. Thats ME2. I've always called ME2 a big filler arc. Aside from the characters that appear in 3, it's largely inconsequential, lol. Does make a good standalone experience though. And the tone was very consistently well done, I thought, with the Suicide Mission being iconic by its own merit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:47:41 GMT
How else do you think Archon arrives at the conclusion of "now I know why you're special!" ?? uh huh. (all the bangs) Pshhh, primitives~
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Post by armass81 on Feb 2, 2017 14:56:15 GMT
It was good, but it could have been so much better. its not good as the second part of the trilogy. Most of the game is 12 little stories wove around a skeleton of a plot, that doesnt advance anythign really. Thats ME2. I've always called ME2 a big filler arc. Aside from the characters that appear in 3, it's largely inconsequential, lol. Does make a good standalone experience though. And the tone was very consistently well done, I thought, with the Suicide Mission being iconic by its own merit. Thats pretty much what it is, it could have been and likely would ahve worked better as a side story of sorts, ME 1.5, but it was the second part, unfortunately.
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Post by pianishimo on Feb 2, 2017 14:56:22 GMT
Well, we are talking about BioWare, so I think yes, we could expect more than the dichotomic bad aliens/good aliens. I have some theories of my own in addition to other assumptions I've been reading throughout the web. The Kett can be those who are seeking for power to dominate Andromeda or even to travel to another place. They can also assume themselves as the "protector force" over any kind of invasion (as we seem to be now), doing everything they can, no matter the means. There will be conflits within the race? I believe yes. Sure we can expect a whole bunch of plot twists in the game, basically because there's something very shady about the Iniciative itself. AIs, human enhancement, searching for resourceful worlds in another galaxy when much of the Milk Way is still to be discovered, Cerberus' invisible hands inside the Initiative and the Ryder family's plot itself... Maybe none of that is true. We can only theorize everything, but that's what I think it's funny
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Post by armass81 on Feb 2, 2017 15:08:50 GMT
Lead writer of both ME2 and ME3, and the reason for the huge tonal shift in the series... id say fo the worse. This man cant hold a candle to any of the other writers or even Karpyshyn. Tough hes done some decent characters, hes awful at plot and seems to stick to simplifications, handwaving, holes and retcons. And yes apparently he was part of the duo that did the ending, with Casey apparently, without the concent or output of other writers. I dont get why he get these huge promotion positions, maybe its the "good brother club" inside Bioware or something- connections despite output. Lets also not forget that Casey Hudson(whos already left) also personally greenlighted the aptly named novel "Deception", on of the worst farces in this series. Well, uh... ME2 was good? Mostly. Basically, he's Zack Snyder? Good eye for details, decent writer, but for the love of God don't give him a leading position? I'm very unfamiliar with the novels though, lol. I'll have to get someone to describe how bad it is to me someday. Definately check out the Deception comic thats on internet, it shows just what a clusterfuck the whole thing is and awhat a hack Dietz is as a "writer"(the guy knows nothing of ME lore ), its not even taken canonically by any people here that have brains int their head. Despite all this for some unfathomable reason Casey Hudson said hed finished the book and greenlighted it, which either showed that he lied and didnt either bother or had no time to check it, or the man knows\knew nothing of the universe he created. Wow. And ofc they promised the revised edition, which to this day has still not come. Another lie. And luckily Mac isnt the lead writer anymore, tough he is the director. Apparently the lead writer was some Halo guy, who left already, which also doesnt fill me with confidence. Well see, but im dreading whats coming.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 18:34:04 GMT
Well, uh... ME2 was good? Mostly. Basically, he's Zack Snyder? Good eye for details, decent writer, but for the love of God don't give him a leading position? I'm very unfamiliar with the novels though, lol. I'll have to get someone to describe how bad it is to me someday. Definately check out the Deception comic thats on internet, it shows just what a clusterfuck the whole thing is and awhat a hack Dietz is as a "writer"(the guy knows nothing of ME lore ), its not even taken canonically by any people here that have brains int their head. Despite all this for some unfathomable reason Casey Hudson said hed finished the book and greenlighted it, which either showed that he lied and didnt either bother or had no time to check it, or the man knows\knew nothing of the universe he created. Wow. And ofc they promised the revised edition, which to this day has still not come. Another lie. And luckily Mac isnt the lead writer anymore, tough he is the director. Apparently the lead writer was some Halo guy, who left already, which also doesnt fill me with confidence. Well see, but im dreading whats coming. I guess whether or not that gives me confidence depends on whether or not he's from the good Halo games, lol. Bungie, as of right now, has shown complete incompetence with story telling, and 343 has done the same. Maybe I can cross my fingers and hope that's because their best writer jumped ship for Mass Effect, hehe.
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Post by Beerfish on Feb 2, 2017 18:42:27 GMT
The Kett are just doing their thing, we should be asking what do the human invaders want?
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The Kett are just doing their thing, we should be asking what do the human invaders want? It would be really nice if the Ai did something to really peeve the Kett, and they aren't just evil alien overlords. The "We're the aliens!" line in the trailers could potentially have a lot of impact, but only if Bioware is willing to abandon the shallow good/evil conventional story line for something a bit more complex. Although from the trailers, it seems like the Kett are just bad guys, so far. So disappointing how they're being handled in the marketing. I just hope it's not like that in the overall game.
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Post by Beerfish on Feb 2, 2017 18:59:11 GMT
The Kett are just doing their thing, we should be asking what do the human invaders want? It would be really nice if the Ai did something to really peeve the Kett, and they aren't just evil alien overlords. The "We're the aliens!" line in the trailers could potentially have a lot of impact, but only if Bioware is willing to abandon the shallow good/evil conventional story line for something a bit more complex. Although from the trailers, it seems like the Kett are just bad guys, so far. So disappointing how they're being handled in the marketing. I just hope it's not like that in the overall game. Agreed, it appears that they just went for the RAWR bad guy factor, even with the Kett design, oh well maybe they will surprise us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 19:01:06 GMT
It would be really nice if the Ai did something to really peeve the Kett, and they aren't just evil alien overlords. The "We're the aliens!" line in the trailers could potentially have a lot of impact, but only if Bioware is willing to abandon the shallow good/evil conventional story line for something a bit more complex. Although from the trailers, it seems like the Kett are just bad guys, so far. So disappointing how they're being handled in the marketing. I just hope it's not like that in the overall game. Agreed, it appears that they just went for the RAWR bad guy factor, even with the Kett design, oh well maybe they will surprise us. Yeah, maybe. Even if they were super generic, it wouldn't be the worst thing that could've happened. Just would be really disappointing to see all that potential wasted. At the very least, Andromeda is supposedly a stand alone game, though, so any future sequels can get it right where Andromeda fails.
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Post by Princess Trejo on Feb 3, 2017 13:19:31 GMT
Maybe they just want a hug?
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