I REALLY hope this whole Cora Harper name thing is nothing...

So basically, you want ME:3 2.0? How dull!

The only possible conclusion for Cerberus showing up in ME:A, is so that they can continue their idiotic *human dominance* plot from ME:3. Which wasn't even a good story. Thus, it'll just be ME:3 all over again.

Because I've seen your many other posts about how much you want Cerberus to take over.....Which is pretty much what they did in ME:3.

Can you find a post that I said I wanted Cerberus to take over and be like they were in ME3?

I would have no problem with having Cerberus in MEA - why? Because it's ME2 Cerberus (when TIM had not been turned into a batshit crazy idiot by the writers! I've said so and I'll say it again: ME2 TIM would shoot ME3 TIM because the later endangers humanity for a stupid idea that might not even work!), not ME3 totally crazy Cerberus with Husks in armor!



I'd love her input on things, even if TIM put her there (hell, she could be a kind of Miranda (as in: TIM made a clone of his own, maybe after learning about Miranda...maybe he kept a sample of his lover Dr. Eva Correy (spelling?) (!)...he might be a cold individual in ME, but he wasn't always like that! Jack Harper became TIM after the First Contact War with the Turians (who killed his lover if I remember this right!)...I take her strong biotics as a hint (not many humans can keep up with an Asari when it comes to biotics! Jack could and she was experimented on to make that possible, Miranda might have been able to and she's a superhuman tankbred (like Grunt...Hey Okeer, you did it wrong! Your super Krogan doesn't have BIOTICS! ^^), Kaidan can do it because of his "old" L2 implant (he's more powerful than an L3, but he also has terrible headaches because of that implant!)...then there's Sheppard (Kaidan confirms that the commander is as strong as he is if you talk with him and if your Shep is a biotic) and that's it as far as we know (don't remember any others!))

Still, I'd love not crazy Cerberus (I love ties to the old games, it's Mass Effect, not "random game that's set in Andromeda", so you should expect references and even stuff like political agendas left over from the Milkyway that made the jump to Andromeda (including Cerberus, hell for all we know some of the Asari, Turians, Salarians etc. on the expedition HATE Humans!))

greetings LAX

I was NOT talking about the NORMANDY SR-2 CREW, DAMNED!

I was talking about Cerberus itself! The guys who made the fucking experiment with with David Archer (Project: Overlord)...were they inhumane and did they perform immoral acts? Yes, but they didn't go for reaper-tech (yet!) and they got results (results that might in the future save humanity if the other races really tried to wipe us out!), can't argue with that! (The entire Alliance Biotic program was formed (they created the first human biotics by making sure that colonies were exposed to raw ezo dust after learning that this leads to biotic ability (Immoral? Yes! Necessary? You can argue about that, but who better to fight other biotics than a biotic? All the other races have them after all, even the Quarians!) and supported by Cerberus if I remember this correctly (they used data gained from the experiments with kids at the facility Jack was being held and of course data from Jack herself!) and you can't argue that Jack isn't a badass (at least in the cutscenes when she frees herself, sadly she's not that powerful a squaddy - but it would have of course broken the game if she were!) biotic! Hell, TIM was assassinating political and religious leaders for fuck's sake and it got him what he wanted! )

We might need this kind of thinking (ok: It would be better if it was a Milkyway-Races-First kind of group formed by all the races that are coming along, but I am ok with Cerberus taking that part, as long as they don't turn into ME3 Cerberus with large armies (they are an underground organization, they might have warships, but not many!) etc. who want to take over government etc. (that's not the aim of Cerberus - they might kill governemnt officials if they want someone else in power or if those officials make their life difficult, but they don't really take over afterwards!))

So again, I was not talking about the "paint job" TIM did to make Cerberus more appealing to Shepard (and potential recruits, especially if Shepard succeeds which he (or she) of course does!)

greetings LAX
ps: Note: I'd like a more humane version of Cerberus, but I'd love some version of it in the game (just not as the big bad)

I wouldn't mind if she turned up to be his daughter, but only if Cerberus is a thing of the past. Just imagining Cerberus in Andromeda gives me nausea.
But I loved ME2 TIM (and pieces of ME3 TIM) so I think it'd be a cool reference and link to the trilogy.

Btw this is still just player knowledge, right? In the games nobody knew his real name.

What were TIM's ideals? Pro-humanity? Anti-alien? The ends justify the means? How many humans did he slaughter / pervert with tech in order to achieve his vision of (excuse for) 'uplifting humanity'?

Personally, I find him to be little more than an egomaniacal power/control freak who believed he alone had the right to decide what was best for the rest of the galaxy and occasionally spouted enough pro-human prose to get other people to work with him.



Hairstyle is that important, eh? Wouldn't it be easier to just take a wig you like to bed and call it a day?



You do realize the seeds were sown for Leliana's appearance in DAI from the very beginning, though, right?

She was wearing an amulet called "Seeker's Circle" when you first met her at the inn in Lothering. The DAO DLC "Leliana's Song" featured her initial meeting with Revered Mother Dorothea, who later became Divine Justinia. During DAA, she was meeting with the Grand Cleric.

I can agree (up to a point) with the notion that repeating characters can make the world seem smaller, but I also appreciate it when stories (and character arcs) are laid out well in advance.

Hm...why should they? It's not like many people did kill Leliana - those who did were a tiny minory (Talking about those who didn't do it (desecrating the ashes) to gain the specialization only and then going back, to an older savegame)

Also, I for one like a bit of fan service (if done right) and it's not as if Leliana's death is canon for any of my runs, so no problem - it's not as if another spy-master would have changed much, unlike the Rachnii did in Mass Effect 3 (who appear even if you fucking kill the last Queen in Mass Effect 1)

mfg LAX

Perhaps you can point out exactly what it was I said that isn't true.



Citation?



Indeed, there was a specific circumstance that could result in Leliana's death in DAO: the warden had to corrupt the ashes with Leliana in the party. I've no idea how many players actually did that, or whether it really occurred to the writers that that would make her unavailable in future games unless they rezzed her somehow. Rezzing characters is not difficult to do in a fantasy world (or Sci-Fi either, apparently, as ME's Lazarus Project exemplifies).

Series writers often plant little details in their stories that may or may not be developed later. I happened to enjoy Leliana's character arc.