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Post by kevpool184 on Feb 6, 2017 17:51:23 GMT
Bioware has stated that Cerberus is not involved with the Andromeda Initiative. this times 100. so please, could we please stopeth with that cerberus bullshyte?
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 6, 2017 17:55:49 GMT
It'd be funny if they just overlooked the fact she had the same last name but didn't realize it until way too late in development. I wonder if BioWare is annoyed the Cerberus connection has gotten so much traction.
Seems not even their direct statement that Cerberus is not involved is enough to deter the conspiracy theorists. I mean cmon... it's not like two unrelated people could EVER have the same last name. That just doesn't happen in real life!
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Post by kino on Feb 6, 2017 18:03:54 GMT
Embedded? Maybe. Placing an agent in the Initiative would be a very Cerberus thing to do. I seriously doubt, though, that they initiated it or are in charge of it, particularly with the large number of alien species that also went to Andromeda.
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Post by jasonsantanna on Feb 6, 2017 18:10:01 GMT
I'm almost shocked by the amount of people who don't want or think Cerberus is involved. I think you guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment, even though you really shouldn't. Given what we know about Cerberus, it would be bad writing that they wouldn't be involved in the Andromeda Initiative in some way. I'm gonna repost something I wrote in another thread: What is Cerberus? They are a human splinter group, who's goal is the advancement of humanity at whatever cost. That's the quick and simple definition of them right? Well there are a few things I would like to note, based on what we've seen so far: 1. Based on his bio Alec Ryder became interested in Artificial Intelligence as a means of human advancement.2. Cora Harper shares the same last name as The Illusive Man. She is also Alec's 2nd in command. 3. The Andromeda Initiative is not a branch of the human military.4. The Human Arc is operated by an AI named SAM. The chances of all these things being a coincidence, is very slim. Given the experiments we saw Cerberus run in ME1 and ME2, going to another galaxy to discover new technology, would be the kind of thing Cerberus would leap at without hesitation.
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Post by jasonsantanna on Feb 6, 2017 18:17:11 GMT
I'm almost shocked by the amount of people who don't want or think Cerberus is involved. I think you guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment, even though you really shouldn't. Given what we know about Cerberus, it would be bad writing that they wouldn't be involved in the Andromeda Initiative in some way. I'm gonna repost something I wrote in another thread: What is Cerberus? They are a human splinter group, who's goal is the advancement of humanity at whatever cost. That's the quick and simple definition of them right? Well there are a few things I would like to note, based on what we've seen so far: 1. Based on his bio Alec Ryder became interested in Artificial Intelligence as a means of human advancement.2. Cora Harper shares the same last name as The Illusive Man. She is also Alec's 2nd in command. 3. The Andromeda Initiative is not a branch of the human military.4. The Human Arc is operated by an AI named SAM. The chances of all these things being a coincidence, is very slim. Given the experiments we saw Cerberus run in ME1 and ME2, going to another galaxy to discover new technology, would be the kind of thing Cerberus would leap at without hesitation. I'm with Mad flavor on this .....it just smells of Cerbrus.. And think about it TIM made the SR2 ...the Tempest resembles the SR2 .....no ship in the Alliance or otherwise in the milky way has that same technology. I think it would be a great plot thread for Cerbrus to be involved, It will add shock value to the story.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 6, 2017 18:27:10 GMT
Sorry....not Cerberus
If Cerberus was behind it we would not have to deal with space hippies moronic stands like "no guns on the tempest" and "no guns on the rover"
No...if Cerberus was behind it we would have a freaking thanix strapped to the nomad
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Post by mango1smoothie on Feb 6, 2017 18:31:32 GMT
Personally I feel Bioware wouldn't risk putting Cerberus into the game since a lot of fans are either tired of them or hate them. Though I feel the inclusion of Cerberus even in a small way would explain a lot about the Andromeda Initiative's technology for lore purposes.
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Post by Fogg on Feb 6, 2017 18:32:09 GMT
Control-F'ed for 'Ceberus' on the last couple of pages, didn't find anything. Missed that one. Also, the second video is much better. In general. I know it isn't the case, but wouldn't it make more sense. I hear a lot of 'yea, no cerberus please', but when you compare the two set ups wouldn't it make more sense?
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Post by Vortex13 on Feb 6, 2017 18:33:05 GMT
If Cerberus is involved, and all the technological advancements made for the Initiative are because of their involvement, then I officially want every single alien species removed from this setting.
Clearly every single alien species in this universe is brain-shateringly inferior to just a small extremist faction of humanity so BioWare should just stop beating around the bush and trim off all that dead weight. The resources and insight of the other species and their governments? Bah, worthless, humanity has been behind all the great advances for the galaxy, and when was the last time you've seen an alien do anything worthwhile to drive the plot forward? Nope, go ahead and cut them all out, at least that way I can buy into a world where humanity is the best at literally everything and BioWare doesn't have to pretend anymore that they are trying to create a nuanced in-game universe.
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Post by ravenous on Feb 6, 2017 18:38:20 GMT
I seriously hope that Cerberus is not involved, I am sick and tired of Cerberus. We have seen and heard about Cerberus for 3 games enough is enough already. Plus bioware has confirmed that Cerberus is not involved at all
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 6, 2017 18:38:30 GMT
I'm with Mad flavor on this .....it just smells of Cerbrus.. And think about it TIM made the SR2 ...the Tempest resembles the SR2 ..... no ship in the Alliance or otherwise in the milky way has that same technology. I think it would be a great plot thread for Cerbrus to be involved, It will add shock value to the story. That's not accurate. The Alliance had other ships with the same stealth technology the Normandy had(after all they built the first one), the Quarians have a ship that has a similar technology, and the Salarians literally have a fleet of stealth ships.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 18:40:06 GMT
Control-F'ed for 'Ceberus' on the last couple of pages, didn't find anything. That's because you should've Control-F'ed for 'Ce rberus'. (sorry)
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Post by traks on Feb 6, 2017 18:44:02 GMT
Control-F'ed for 'Ceberus' on the last couple of pages, didn't find anything. Missed that one. Also, the second video is much better. In general. I know it isn't the case, but wouldn't it make more sense. I hear a lot of 'yea, no cerberus please', but when you compare the two set ups wouldn't it make more sense? Nope. TIM is obsessed with the Reapers and his goal is to get control of them. No time and resources to waste to go to another Galaxy 600 years away.
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Post by I'm Not Dead Just Yet on Feb 6, 2017 18:46:06 GMT
Bioware has stated that Cerberus is not involved with the Andromeda Initiative. What if they're lying?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 18:51:16 GMT
Bioware has stated that Cerberus is not involved with the Andromeda Initiative. What if they're lying? On a related note, I think it's really great that most of the in-game facts we know come from distinctly in-universe recruitment briefings. We're taking the AI at face value, and going in with no inkling of any ulterior motivations, secret plans, etc. I hope they use this to introduce an element of discovering 'what this REALLY is all about' once we start playing.
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Post by hammerstorm on Feb 6, 2017 18:55:22 GMT
Just going to copy what I wrote in the "twitter thread". There is no way to know before the game is out, but Bioware have already denied Cerberus involvement in ME:A:
Well, it is possible that TIM didn't thought that it would work out. Cerberus do have finite resources (before someone gave TIM the cheatcode) so he may just have ignored it. (And hearing all the complaints people have that ME:A is stupid from the beginning, he may believed the same)
Now I'm sure that there will be some kind of pro-human group, whether they will call them self cerberus or something else, I don't know and as long as they are not in center of things I don't care.
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Post by glitch89 on Feb 6, 2017 18:56:29 GMT
I hated Cerberus so I very glad they're not involved.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 6, 2017 18:56:45 GMT
Just going to copy what I wrote in the "twitter thread". There is no way to know before the game is out, but Bioware have already denied Cerberus involvement in ME:A: Well, it is possible that TIM didn't thought that it would work out. Cerberus do have finite resources (before someone gave TIM the cheatcode) so he may just have ignored it. (And hearing all the complaints people have that ME:A is stupid from the beginning, he may believed the same) Now I'm sure that there will be some kind of pro-human group, whether they will call them self cerberus or something else, I don't know and as long as they are not in center of things I don't care. Instead of a Pro-Human group, I see it more likely there will be a Pro-Milky Way group. Same basic idea, but it applies to all the races that came from the Milky Way.
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Post by I'm Not Dead Just Yet on Feb 6, 2017 19:01:43 GMT
On a related note, I think it's really great that most of the in-game facts we know come from distinctly in-universe recruitment briefings. We're taking the AI at face value, and going in with no inkling of any ulterior motivations, secret plans, etc. I hope they use this to introduce an element of discovering 'what this REALLY is all about' once we start playing.Exactly Exactly. I mean, I really wish Cerberus isn't in the game, but it would still be really funny of the developers to say they're not but then we play and find out they are. What if the AI isn't all that we think it is?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 19:06:04 GMT
Instead of a Pro-Human group, I see it more likely there will be a Pro-Milky Way group. Same basic idea, but it applies to all the races that came from the Milky Way. The idea that people might feel a sense of belonging, or a kind of tribalism with respect to their GALAXY sounds a bit absurd, though. Not that it couldn't work at all (after all, we've lived together with the other species for at least a generation now, we've shared quite a number of experiences, etc.) but still, it sounds funny. Yeah. Our galaxy beats yours. Our galaxy is bigger, though. Yeah? Well, our galaxy has Shepard, how about that?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 6, 2017 19:14:13 GMT
Instead of a Pro-Human group, I see it more likely there will be a Pro-Milky Way group. Same basic idea, but it applies to all the races that came from the Milky Way. The idea that people might feel a sense of belonging, or a kind of tribalism with respect to their GALAXY sounds a bit absurd, though. Not that it couldn't work at all (after all, we've lived together with the other species for at least a generation now, we've shared quite a number of experiences, etc.) but still, it sounds funny. Yeah. Our galaxy beats yours. Our galaxy is bigger, though. Yeah? Well, our galaxy has Shepard, how about that?Not really. We see the same thing happen on Earth throughout history even to today, though on a smaller scale but scale is arbitrary to that kind of mindset.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Feb 6, 2017 19:22:14 GMT
My two cents on the topic.
I always believed they were involved somehow. Ever since the first speculations about the "ArkCon" and the immensity of such a project and the funding and backing it would need. At this point, Cerberus being entirely omitted would be very weird.
We know the Ark leaves between ME1-ME2 ,isn't that right? Well, Cerberus was OK up until that point.They weren't the all-powerful ,annoying Cerberus we all got fed up and ended up hating in ME3 . The Cerberus of 2184-2185 is an entirely different beast. Remember that.
Do I think Cerberus is fully behind the Ai? Absolutely not. Do I have the mood to fight endless waves of Cerberus troops all over again ? Hell no. Do I think Cerberus might have some involvement with Ai? Hell yes .Do I want that? I don't know, only because it would make sense. Do I think Cora is TIMs daughter? Very likely. Do I want it? Yes. Would I want her to be a sleeper agent/Cerberus infiltrator? No , I'd like her to actually have no knowledge of her father whatsoever.
I mean ,there is quite some small evidence and hints here and there...and then there is Alec Ryder and the advancement of humanity and SAM and the way SAM is used (implants being too invasive). Could he be Cerberus? Him and Jien ?Are we talking about maybe a branch of Cerberus? A totally different organization or just no organization but a similar mindset and belief.
The possibilities are endless and Cerberus being involved in Ai is one of them and a very likely one to be true.
Then again, we can be dealing with the other likely scenario which is bad writing with a good side serving of Bioware trolling.In that scenario, Harper is just a coincidence , Alec is just a humble scientist and SAM a purely innocent creation , the massively expensive 10 year Ai project is backed up only by civilians and its cause is to simply...explore.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 6, 2017 19:35:25 GMT
I think Alec Ryder was involved with Jack Harper. They both took part in the first contact war. Given Alec's work with Special Ops and Artificial Intelligence, I could see TIM(Jack Harper) approaching Alec. And the two set out to create Cerberus but they have some type of falling out. Alec takes some of the resources and helps set up the Andromeda Initiative. Cora Harper has her own falling out with her father/uncle and joins Ryder as his second in command.
Also isn't SAM based off of Ryder's wife's neural patterns? TIM could have recovered some of Alex's early work to help with EDI's development.
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Post by hammerstorm on Feb 6, 2017 19:38:47 GMT
Instead of a Pro-Human group, I see it more likely there will be a Pro-Milky Way group. Same basic idea, but it applies to all the races that came from the Milky Way. The idea that people might feel a sense of belonging, or a kind of tribalism with respect to their GALAXY sounds a bit absurd, though. Not that it couldn't work at all (after all, we've lived together with the other species for at least a generation now, we've shared quite a number of experiences, etc.) but still, it sounds funny. Yeah. Our galaxy beats yours. Our galaxy is bigger, though. Yeah? Well, our galaxy has Shepard, how about that?I think it is more the "us against them" mindset that makes it possible to see a pro-MW faction. Maybe even one that has the AI's leader as leaders. It is not impossible that when they find out that there is not as much resources as they believed they take a more drastic POV instead of trying to create an alliance.
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