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Post by ApocAlypsE on Mar 2, 2017 22:21:44 GMT
HELLLLLLLLLLLOOOO NEW MAIN. That thing will be the death of Pharah though :/
EDIT: BTW, I've entered the game for an half hour of fun, and while skrimishing in the beginning I saw: "**** switched to Orisa (was Doomfist)". Sorry, I don't have a screenshot, probably some bug. But, does that mean that Doomfist is actually closer than expected?
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Mar 5, 2017 22:58:27 GMT
I got into a heated debate with a friend, and I'm curious what you guys think: It is my belief that hunting down the enemy healer is top priority, and at least one in the team should focus on that task (especially if the healer is Mercy). However, my friend insists that although hunting the healer is important it can often be a "waste of time" and it is better to kill more enemies that are closer to your position. I can agree that if an enemy player is particularly good they might need to be prioritized, but otherwise I always go for healers first. From my own experience playing Mercy it hampers our team a lot of the enemy has someone focusing me (my friend does not believe in "babysitting" the healer either) and obviously I can't rez if I'm dead. Am I overvaluing the importance of hunting healers?
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 6, 2017 0:35:02 GMT
Guys, out of curiosity, has anyone ever played Overwatch cross region and/or under very high ping (200ms)? How playable/unplayable is it?
I have played Overwatch at 160ms and it is not bad at all (South - North America), but I have an European friend who is considering buying this game. I wonder if we will be able to play together without major issues. I have played some shooter games at 200ms ping and usually the lag compensation works decently, but I don't know how it is for Overwatch.
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Post by Duelist on Mar 6, 2017 3:26:15 GMT
I got into a heated debate with a friend, and I'm curious what you guys think: It is my belief that hunting down the enemy healer is top priority, and at least one in the team should focus on that task (especially if the healer is Mercy). However, my friend insists that although hunting the healer is important it can often be a "waste of time" and it is better to kill more enemies that are closer to your position. I can agree that if a enemy player is particularly good they might need to be prioritized, but otherwise I always go for healers first. From my own experience playing Mercy it hampers our team a lot of the enemy has someone focusing me (my friend does not believe in "babysitting" the healer either) and obviously I can't rez if I'm dead. Am I overvaluing the importance of hunting healers? You're not overstating the importance of healers. As a general rule, I like to kill the main healer first or focus whoever the biggest threat is. That said, your friend sounds like an idiot. |
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Post by CrazyRah on Mar 6, 2017 9:51:22 GMT
I got into a heated debate with a friend, and I'm curious what you guys think: It is my belief that hunting down the enemy healer is top priority, and at least one in the team should focus on that task (especially if the healer is Mercy). However, my friend insists that although hunting the healer is important it can often be a "waste of time" and it is better to kill more enemies that are closer to your position. I can agree that if a enemy player is particularly good they might need to be prioritized, but otherwise I always go for healers first. From my own experience playing Mercy it hampers our team a lot of the enemy has someone focusing me (my friend does not believe in "babysitting" the healer either) and obviously I can't rez if I'm dead. Am I overvaluing the importance of hunting healers? Nah you're spot on. Healers should absolutely be hunted down unless as you mention someone else on their team is having way too much of an impact. Dead healers is the easiest way to win |
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Mar 6, 2017 10:29:57 GMT
Thank you Duelist and CrazyRah for your input! And Duelist he really isn't, I just think he got tired of me nagging about how people should drop everything to kill the healer and just wanted to be a bit contrary out of annoyance. It's just that I often play support (it's not like anyone else picks it) and when I do I don't really get an opportunity to kill the healer myself. I'm a lousy DPS (I have shitty aim, I really wish I would start to improve on that front!) and my friend is really good and always has a good impact on the game... I guess I should cut him a bit more slack, it just annoys me sooo much when the enemy team devotes one or two persons to kill me while I can see in the killfeed that the enemy supports rarely die! Edit* While on the subject, which non-support character that doesn't require excellent aim would you suggest I practice more if I want to get better at killing enemies? I tend to favor mobile characters (I used to main D.VA before the nerf). Soldier is very versatile and nice to play, but I don't like taking him because I know other people utilize him a lot better. I like playing Tracer but I often feel that she requires more skill than I have (she really is good for hunting supports though). Junkrat doesn't really aim like the others do, but I just can't master him at all and fail miserably when I try. Reaper doesn't require excellent aim, but he's in a bit of a bad spot right now so I'm not sure it's the right time to try to learn how to play him. Ideas? |
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Post by Lvca on Mar 6, 2017 22:00:35 GMT
Guys, out of curiosity, has anyone ever played Overwatch cross region and/or under very high ping (200ms)? How playable/unplayable is it? I have played Overwatch at 160ms and it is not bad at all (South - North America), but I have an European friend who is considering buying this game. I wonder if we will be able to play together without major issues. I have played some shooter games at 200ms ping and usually the lag compensation works decently, but I don't know how it is for Overwatch. I played a match the other day at 250 ms cause ISP being silly, and it was playable, although I only played one match cause i was playing solo and not enjoying it much. It didn't help that it was mystery heroes so I couldn't choose hitscans. Still, playing with friends could make it more tolerable. |
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Post by Draining Dragon on Mar 7, 2017 1:21:20 GMT
Holy shit. Just yesterday I was pondering buying either the Valkyrie or Sigrun skin, and today I got Sigrun in a loot box!  |
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Post by smilesja on Mar 9, 2017 4:50:37 GMT
Sssesh Ana mains are getting coddled.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 9, 2017 23:13:29 GMT
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Post by Draining Dragon on Mar 10, 2017 17:14:11 GMT
So someone on the Overwatch reddit suggested that Blizzard should implement a 12 vs 12 mode now that we have 24 heroes. The post got 36k upvotes and when someone tweeted the suggestion to Blizzard, they replied "Sounds fun!"
This doesn't guarantee that we'll get such a mode, but I could very well see them adding larger-scale gamemodes in the future.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 11, 2017 16:24:18 GMT
So someone on the Overwatch reddit suggested that Blizzard should implement a 12 vs 12 mode now that we have 24 heroes. The post got 36k upvotes and when someone tweeted the suggestion to Blizzard, they replied "Sounds fun!" This doesn't guarantee that we'll get such a mode, but I could very well see them adding larger-scale gamemodes in the future. I could see them doing that as part of a Seasonal Event and if well liked enough they add it to the Arcade. |
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Mar 11, 2017 17:17:59 GMT
And I just lost a comp game because a widow thought it was a good idea to stand one meter outside the point to shoot at the enemy team instead of, you know, helping the two other people cap the point faster... the enemy Zenyatta pulled out his ult when it was only a second left, stalled, and then we lost.  |
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Post by Duelist on Mar 11, 2017 23:41:45 GMT
And I just lost a comp game because a widow thought it was a good idea to stand one meter outside the point to shoot at the enemy team instead of, you know, helping the two other people cap the point faster... the enemy Zenyatta pulled out his ult when it was only a second left, stalled, and then we lost. And people wonder why I get so salty whenever Widow or Hanzo end up on my team. |
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Mar 11, 2017 23:48:42 GMT
Duelist I just don't understand, s/he could have got an almost equally good shot by standing one meter to the left AND helped cap at the same time! Why are some people so bad at playing the objective??? I don't know how many times I've been left alone to cap a point as Mercy... 
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Post by Duelist on Mar 12, 2017 0:23:38 GMT
It's a Widow/Hanzo main thing. Both characters suck at fighting on the point and people who play them won't even try.
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 19, 2017 16:36:23 GMT
Orisa looks awesome, feels awesome and she is overall awesome. I have saved all my loot boxes for the past two weeks or so awaiting for her. It is a shame she is being released on the very same day as ME: Andromeda.
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Post by Lavochkin on Mar 19, 2017 16:48:34 GMT
So it looks like the PTR has added a new route through the first choke on Eichenwalde, shown at 3:15 on this video:
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Mar 21, 2017 8:18:19 GMT
Still don't know if I'll be getting ME:A after I've seen it's the weakest Bioware game I've played... Hopefully Orisa will ease the pain of disappointment now, everyone I've seen playing in youtube had a blast because she is so versatile.
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Post by ziegrif on Mar 21, 2017 16:12:15 GMT
I got into a heated debate with a friend, and I'm curious what you guys think: It is my belief that hunting down the enemy healer is top priority, and at least one in the team should focus on that task (especially if the healer is Mercy). However, my friend insists that although hunting the healer is important it can often be a "waste of time" and it is better to kill more enemies that are closer to your position. I can agree that if an enemy player is particularly good they might need to be prioritized, but otherwise I always go for healers first. From my own experience playing Mercy it hampers our team a lot of the enemy has someone focusing me (my friend does not believe in "babysitting" the healer either) and obviously I can't rez if I'm dead. Am I overvaluing the importance of hunting healers? I subscribe to this thought process:  If they have a Mercy kill her after DPS. The moment DPS dies the others are exposed and easier to kill. You can also get a panic rez out of Mercy for the DPS. Of course this is ideal scenario. No plan survives first contact. |
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Mar 21, 2017 16:17:56 GMT
As a Pharah main, my thought process goes as this:
Anything that can kill me > Healers > DPS that can't kill me > Tanks
Of course I shouldn't go all ham in the middle of the team but I suck so...
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Mar 21, 2017 16:18:59 GMT
ziegrif Thanks for the chart! Yeah, I can see your line of reasoning. Out of curiosity, what would you do if you as a DPS comes across another DPS being healed by a Mercy ? For the sake of the argument, let's pretend flight is not an option. Do you still try to kill the DPS or do you do a suicide attack on the Mercy? (I know, it probably depends on what character you're playing, but I'm still interested).
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Post by ziegrif on Mar 21, 2017 16:40:40 GMT
ziegrif Thanks for the chart! Yeah, I can see your line of reasoning. Out of curiosity, what would you do if you as a DPS comes across another DPS being healed by a Mercy ? For the sake of the argument, let's pretend flight is not an option. Do you still try to kill the DPS or do you do a suicide attack on the Mercy? (I know, it probably depends on what character you're playing, but I'm still interested). Depends entirely on who I am, who am I against, where are we, is the Mercy exposed like you said. The correct answer is to immediately disengage because if you're alone and you're not a flanker you've probably lost the team fight. In OW being alone means something went wrong and you need to group up for another push fast aka just die, jump off map, run back to team. A Genji or Tracer would simply go for the Mercy as their burst dmg even if large would get healed up on the DPS. They rely on killing an enemy fast or putting them at low HP, disengaging and then finishing them off before they can heal up. A good Tracer can easily 2v1 if she can get angles and isn't against a roadhog or McCree. Regular DPS like Soldier? You run. If you can't. Get 3 HS and a rocket fast into either one. I'd shoot the DPS as baiting out the Rez is much more important and a lone mercy is a dead mercy. If the enemy has more than 200 HP bomb rush the Mercy, if you can kill yourself with the Mercy and deny the other Ult in the process it's the perfect solution. Now what I'm best at is Junkrat and I end up against a DPS healer duo a lot. You kill whoever you see first. Advancing into a Junkrat in small corridors is a nightmare and the DPS will not live without a tanks help. Doesn't matter which side you are on. You cannot advance into a Junkrat unless you have the height advantage and fire on who I see first, if they decide to advance into me they're rising being 1-2 punched with a direct and conc mine so I think I'd hold the advantage by just killing the DPS, a shield or are Neo from the Matrix. Open space and a 2v1 situation I'd take high ground and if against Pharah Id run while lobbing bombs at the duo. If I'm a tank I'd just bum rush both healer and DPS. I'd have enough health to kill the Mercy before I kill the DPS or they kill me but if I can get a 1 hit kill on the DPS I'd kill them first ergo Charge, Hook, etc. If I'm ana, sleep DPS and kill Mercy and then 1v1 the dps. Ana is quite simply the best to do the Job. If against PharMercy I wouldn't go after them alone but I'd take shots at the Mercy first as that dmg sticks much more. TO effectively take down a PharMercy I'd love to have Zen, Any long range hit scan DPS and an Ana all shooting the Pharah because that's what counters the duo. Or just a godly Widow will get the job done. Soldier and McJesus need tons of help to be able to take a Pharmecy on. |
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