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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 13, 2017 23:19:09 GMT
Duelist Noooo not my sweet D.VA too! Why are you making me suffer like this?! 
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Post by Daft Arbiter on Jun 13, 2017 23:35:04 GMT
Most played competitive character: Zenyatta.
Favorite competitive character: Mei.
Best competitive character: Reinhardt.
I don't have a great aim and so I can't play long range hitscans or snipers, but I have enough situational awareness and skill with mindgames that I got up to GM last season on Rein. My Mei play is probably better than my Rein play in terms of how it stacks up to other people who also play that character, but Mei is really quite bad vs the dive meta because she doesn't stand a chance against Tracer, Genji, Pharah or Widow.
Usually though, I run Zen because he's a low-stress character and because of his Ra skin (I like birds).
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2017 7:38:48 GMT
I don't care what anyone says Elo hell is a real thing
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 14, 2017 12:08:45 GMT
I'm diamond in comp, but I guess it's easier to reach diamond on console so I'm not sure I'm really that good. I mostly main Mercy in comp; I don't really have very good aim, but I have good game-sense and I'm pretty strategic. More often then not people don't want to play support, so me maining Mercy works out nicely (also, my friend mains Pharah). However, occasionally there is another Mercy-main in the team that instalocks her (I try to always wait a bit and see what the team picks) and then I will usually either go Lucio (if we need a second healer), Symmetra or D.VA (my former main that I've kinda lost touch with).
Since my aim is pretty bad I don't really dps much. If the opposing team has a Bastion pocketed by a Mercy and shielded by Rein I will go Sombra and try to hack away the shield. I've tried Tracer, but I'm not nearly skilled enough, and mostly use her to annoy the back-line. I do like playing Mei, but I haven't been able to make her work in comp.
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Post by Duelist on Jun 15, 2017 10:45:05 GMT
I found focusing on a single role really helped me climb (tank in my case) although when shit in front of me isn't dying, that's when I bust out Reaper.
Main tank is probably the best (Winston or Reinhardt or even better both) but I'm good enough with all of the tanks, Zarya is my best though, to be able to change based on the enemy team's composition or map.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 15, 2017 11:41:09 GMT
By the way, a lot of people think the pharmercy combo is too strong (particularly on console) and want it nerfed. As a Mercy main I really don't want her nerfed as I feel she's in a pretty good spot right now (before the rez-immunity I would often die if I did a big rez), and the only nerf to Phara I can think of that would be reasonable would be nerfing the time she can be airborne and perhaps also her splash-damage a bit. But I think a better idea would be to give her one more counter - so what do you guys think of the idea of letting D.VA fire while flying? She could then fly upp towards Pharah and/or Mercy and fire at them, and then continue fire as she descends. As it is now D.VA has a very hard time countering Pharah as her damage from the ground is way too low, especially if the Pharah gets healed. Letting her fire while flying would give D.VA a bit of buff (I feel she needs a bit more to be in a good spot) and make her more fun and versatile to play.  |
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Post by Duelist on Jun 15, 2017 13:12:32 GMT
Honestly, I think DVa can best aid her team against Pharmercy by eating her rockets with Defence Matrix so Soldier can shoot them down.
I'm not opposed to the idea though.
The Roadhog main in me would rather just see the hook made longer 😆
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Post by CrazyRah on Jun 15, 2017 18:45:08 GMT
By the way, a lot of people think the pharmercy combo is too strong (particularly on console) and want it nerfed. As a Mercy main I really don't want her nerfed as I feel she's in a pretty good spot right now (before the rez-immunity I would often die if I did a big rez), and the only nerf to Phara I can think of that would be reasonable would be nerfing the time she can be airborne and perhaps also her splash-damage a bit. But I think a better idea would be to give her one more counter - so what do you guys think of the idea of letting D.VA fire while flying? She could then fly upp towards Pharah and/or Mercy and fire at them, and then continue fire as she descends. As it is now D.VA has a very hard time countering Pharah as her damage from the ground is way too low, especially if the Pharah gets healed. Letting her fire while flying would give D.VA a bit of buff (I feel she needs a bit more to be in a good spot) and make her more fun and versatile to play. God that'd kill the enjoyment I get from being Pharah. Pharah has either been really useful or absolutely shite since release so I'm incredibly cautious about even adding a new counter. The largest counter to Pharah is communication but that's way too advanced for most people so just protect whatever soldier or McCree that someone should pick and they will do a good enough job shutting Pharah down. That said I'd be willing to give the flying peashooting D. Va a try. It could work and not competely ruin the enjoyment of playing as Pharah. On the flipside D. Va should have large problems dealing with some heroes and not be "good enough" against everything Glad I'm not working with balancing the game. Change one thing and soooo many things react |
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Post by smilesja on Jun 15, 2017 19:30:19 GMT
I'd say nerf the Pharmercy combo.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 15, 2017 20:06:12 GMT
By the way, a lot of people think the pharmercy combo is too strong (particularly on console) and want it nerfed. As a Mercy main I really don't want her nerfed as I feel she's in a pretty good spot right now (before the rez-immunity I would often die if I did a big rez), and the only nerf to Phara I can think of that would be reasonable would be nerfing the time she can be airborne and perhaps also her splash-damage a bit. But I think a better idea would be to give her one more counter - so what do you guys think of the idea of letting D.VA fire while flying? She could then fly upp towards Pharah and/or Mercy and fire at them, and then continue fire as she descends. As it is now D.VA has a very hard time countering Pharah as her damage from the ground is way too low, especially if the Pharah gets healed. Letting her fire while flying would give D.VA a bit of buff (I feel she needs a bit more to be in a good spot) and make her more fun and versatile to play. God that'd kill the enjoyment I get from being Pharah. Pharah has either been really useful or absolutely shite since release so I'm incredibly cautious about even adding a new counter. The largest counter to Pharah is communication but that's way too advanced for most people so just protect whatever soldier or McCree that someone should pick and they will do a good enough job shutting Pharah down. That said I'd be willing to give the flying peashooting D. Va a try. It could work and not competely ruin the enjoyment of playing as Pharah. On the flipside D. Va should have large problems dealing with some heroes and not be "good enough" against everything Glad I'm not working with balancing the game. Change one thing and soooo many things react Oh, I don't want Pharah to become less fun to play, I just thought letting D.VA shoot and fly at the same time would be both fun for the D.VA-mains and also take away a bit of the hate that both Mercy and Pharah is getting. On console Pharah is pretty strong because it harder to aim, so characters like Widow, Soldier and McCree can't deal with her as efficiently as on PC. The other way to counter would be buffing Torbjörn's turret, but it used to be a nightmare on console and I don't think anyone wants it back the way it was. I'm not worried about D.VA becoming OP, that critbox the size of Alaska will always rein her in - I often feel like a giant ult-battery for the enemy team when I play her. I played as Lucio yesterday and managed to single-handedly de-mech her and kill her (it was actually easier to take down her mech than kill her). Poor D.VA! |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 15, 2017 20:21:49 GMT
By the way, a lot of people think the pharmercy combo is too strong (particularly on console) and want it nerfed. As a Mercy main I really don't want her nerfed as I feel she's in a pretty good spot right now (before the rez-immunity I would often die if I did a big rez), and the only nerf to Phara I can think of that would be reasonable would be nerfing the time she can be airborne and perhaps also her splash-damage a bit. But I think a better idea would be to give her one more counter - so what do you guys think of the idea of letting D.VA fire while flying? She could then fly upp towards Pharah and/or Mercy and fire at them, and then continue fire as she descends. As it is now D.VA has a very hard time countering Pharah as her damage from the ground is way too low, especially if the Pharah gets healed. Letting her fire while flying would give D.VA a bit of buff (I feel she needs a bit more to be in a good spot) and make her more fun and versatile to play. God that'd kill the enjoyment I get from being Pharah. Pharah has either been really useful or absolutely shite since release so I'm incredibly cautious about even adding a new counter. The largest counter to Pharah is communication but that's way too advanced for most people so just protect whatever soldier or McCree that someone should pick and they will do a good enough job shutting Pharah down. That said I'd be willing to give the flying peashooting D. Va a try. It could work and not competely ruin the enjoyment of playing as Pharah. On the flipside D. Va should have large problems dealing with some heroes and not be "good enough" against everythingGlad I'm not working with balancing the game. Change one thing and soooo many things react Mei and Zarya absolutely wreck D.Va, and anyone with a deployable shield counters her abilities. |
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Post by CrazyRah on Jun 15, 2017 21:08:07 GMT
God that'd kill the enjoyment I get from being Pharah. Pharah has either been really useful or absolutely shite since release so I'm incredibly cautious about even adding a new counter. The largest counter to Pharah is communication but that's way too advanced for most people so just protect whatever soldier or McCree that someone should pick and they will do a good enough job shutting Pharah down. That said I'd be willing to give the flying peashooting D. Va a try. It could work and not competely ruin the enjoyment of playing as Pharah. On the flipside D. Va should have large problems dealing with some heroes and not be "good enough" against everythingGlad I'm not working with balancing the game. Change one thing and soooo many things react Mei and Zarya absolutely wreck D.Va, and anyone with a deployable shield counters her abilities. Yes, I know. I kinda got both as my primary heroes to play and those deployable shields are a nuisance to most other heroes aswell |
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Post by CrazyRah on Jun 15, 2017 21:12:01 GMT
God that'd kill the enjoyment I get from being Pharah. Pharah has either been really useful or absolutely shite since release so I'm incredibly cautious about even adding a new counter. The largest counter to Pharah is communication but that's way too advanced for most people so just protect whatever soldier or McCree that someone should pick and they will do a good enough job shutting Pharah down. That said I'd be willing to give the flying peashooting D. Va a try. It could work and not competely ruin the enjoyment of playing as Pharah. On the flipside D. Va should have large problems dealing with some heroes and not be "good enough" against everything Glad I'm not working with balancing the game. Change one thing and soooo many things react Oh, I don't want Pharah to become less fun to play, I just thought letting D.VA shoot and fly at the same time would be both fun for the D.VA-mains and also take away a bit of the hate that both Mercy and Pharah is getting. On console Pharah is pretty strong because it harder to aim, so characters like Widow, Soldier and McCree can't deal with her as efficiently as on PC. The other way to counter would be buffing Torbjörn's turret, but it used to be a nightmare on console and I don't think anyone wants it back the way it was. I'm not worried about D.VA becoming OP, that critbox the size of Alaska will always rein her in - I often feel like a giant ult-battery for the enemy team when I play her. I played as Lucio yesterday and managed to single-handedly de-mech her and kill her (it was actually easier to take down her mech than kill her). Poor D.VA! It would also make her crazy good at hunting down so many characters if she could fly and shot at the same time. Like I said I'm all for trying and as you mention there are console specific issues spawning from it being that much harder to aim on console. Any half decent shot on the PC can deal with Pharah but I can absolutely imagine it being that much trickier to keep up with a good Pharah on console. Anything that doesn't put Pharah back into the trashbin is worth a consideration for sure! |
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 16, 2017 10:37:44 GMT
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Post by Duelist on Jun 16, 2017 11:47:54 GMT
Some people really should look at this... I feel like this graph needs Genji specific sections like stop trying to go 1v6 or you've only lost about 10hp. My personal favourite, we'll maybe not favourite but most cited reason for me not healing people, is that I can't save you from your stupidity. |
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Post by Daft Arbiter on Jun 16, 2017 16:58:11 GMT
Some people really should look at this... Definitely a Mercy pie chart. How do I know? Because it's missing the #1 problem for Zenyatta: "I can't fly across the map in 1 second like you can, guy." |
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Post by henkiedepost on Jun 17, 2017 0:21:43 GMT
About D.Va, I do miss the way I could play her in Season 2. People thought she was weak but I could absolutely dominate with her. In fact, I could play entire games without even dying. My record is 57 kills vs 0 deaths or something. Then the season 3 buffs came. I didn't ask for those but okay, now she was even stronger lol. I still don't really understand why the devs thought adding these buffs was necessary. But the Season 4 nerf hit hard for me. I know she's still quite strong but I really miss her survivability and damage. I'd rather have seen the devs bringing her back to her Season 2 state. She was quite balanced back then I believe. Now I barely play D.Va anymore...
About Pharmercy: I think it's too strong. A friend of mine is a Mercy main and I'm a good Pharah (if I say so myself), and we can absolutely dominate games. Don't know hoe blizz can nerf it but I think that, in the end, it will be healthy for the game if they did.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 17, 2017 9:39:31 GMT
Hanzo mains are the worst.
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Post by henkiedepost on Jun 18, 2017 0:37:46 GMT
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Post by Lavochkin on Jun 18, 2017 1:15:50 GMT
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Post by Duelist on Jun 18, 2017 6:19:50 GMT
Some kid: "Next time Soldier, kill the Pharah."
Me: "I've been killing the Pharah. I also started this match on Mercy for two rounds and now I'm gold, you've been DPS for five rounds motherfucker what have you got?"
*kid leaves voice channel*
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Post by Duelist on Jun 18, 2017 6:25:33 GMT
Also, Hanzo is like Sombra: great in certain hands on certain maps but mostly useless.
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