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Post by muahmuah on Apr 22, 2017 9:52:21 GMT
Good luck Doc!You can do it before Clyde . Doc, pls. Exactly!
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Post by docsteely on Apr 23, 2017 16:14:43 GMT
N1 - Recruiting All Forces II. CDEM Conditions: Full Extraction on Firebase Giant vs Reapers Character: N7-Paladin Sentinel Weapon: N7-Crusader 51:52 -DocSteelyDevices - Devices - Devices Yup, you read it right: 3 X Devices. Giant is an easy map, but still...
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Post by docsteely on Apr 24, 2017 7:23:06 GMT
N1 - Recruiting All Forces III. Cyone Must Not Fall! Conditions: Full Extraction on Firebase Reactor vs Collectors Character: Turian Ghost Infiltrator Weapon: Phaeston Assault Rifle 51:10 -DocSteely (10ws)Devices - Targets - Hack(glitched) I finally resigned myself with the fact that I can't get a game without devices, but the major problem was w6 targets, after which I was left with only 3 missiles. I used two on w8 and I did not risk using the last on w9, cuz maybe targets again... A big thank you to IAMxSHADRACH (don't know if he's a member), from which I learned that abominations are the best way to decrease wave budget against Trollectors; particularly useful when using the Phaeston. I like role-playing with the gun, but, you know...
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Post by muahmuah on Apr 24, 2017 9:59:09 GMT
A big thank you to IAMxSHADRACH (don't know if he's a member), from which I learned that abominations are the best way to decrease wave budget against Trollectors; It's wrong.The best way to decrease the wave budget is to kill fast the "expensive" units.I avoided abominations and concentrated on the scions,capitans and on plat,even on the praetorians.The abominations are too cheap.
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Post by Smehur on Apr 24, 2017 11:39:23 GMT
A big thank you to IAMxSHADRACH (don't know if he's a member), from which I learned that abominations are the best way to decrease wave budget against Trollectors; It's wrong.The best way to decrease the wave budget is to kill fast the "expensive" units.I avoided abominations and concentrated on the scions,capitans and on plat,even on the praetorians.The abominations are too cheap. Doc's right, Doc. (Omg I'm so witty.) Husks are cheap, with value of 10. Abominations are worth 40, which is more than the value of captains (35), almost double the value of troopers (25) and more than half the value of a scion (75). Since most people can kill more than 2 abominations in the time it would take to kill a scion (abominations are quick, run straight at you, don't take cover and aren't dangerous), it's definitely a sound strategy for gold. Possibly for plat too, especially the wave 9 drag; there's no doubt most players would prefer (and be better off) killing 2 abominations than a phantom (worth 80) for the same budget gain.
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Post by docsteely on Apr 24, 2017 12:08:17 GMT
A big thank you to IAMxSHADRACH (don't know if he's a member), from which I learned that abominations are the best way to decrease wave budget against Trollectors; It's wrong.The best way to decrease the wave budget is to kill fast the "expensive" units.I avoided abominations and concentrated on the scions,capitans and on plat,even on the praetorians.The abominations are too cheap. Doc, see Smehur's clarifications on the subject. While it's true that scions and praetorians have a bigger impact on the wave budget, killing 2 or 3 abominations at once, (which is easy on gold, given their tendency to follow you and spawn near you) will give you the same decrease in less time.
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Post by muahmuah on Apr 24, 2017 12:38:55 GMT
I can speak from my own experience and when i killed abominations(my first successful run on plat) my time was 77 min.Then i redid it and i concentrated on the scions,praetorians and all mooks around them and the time was 50 and something.For gold was absolutelly the same.Perhaps i killed many abominations meantime,can't remember,but i am pretty sure that if you try that strategy on plat the time will be awful.For gold i can't be sure.I should make an experiment with both tactics.
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Post by muahmuah on Apr 24, 2017 13:14:53 GMT
Now i rememered something.In 77 min try i had targets on 10 wave and only 3 rockets left.Had to kill one praetorian only with that awful AR,while i was persecuted by 2 banshees,2 primes the other praetorian and the mooks,then had to clear the wave without missiles.It took me more than 10 min,perhaps 15,so the awful time has other explanation and we can add my bad skills at that time. Perhaps you are right,but in my opinion the best way to decrease the wave budget is to kill fast everything
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Post by docsteely on Apr 27, 2017 3:18:32 GMT
Oh, well... FAIL1.
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Post by MPApr2012 on Apr 28, 2017 4:31:46 GMT
as Caldari_Ghost *i think* used to remark back then in this game if you ain't dying you ain't trying ...well, at least that's what i console myself with after say 5-6 failed attempts in one sitting. Another thing, i found this run be one of the most fun missions in the whole series (admittedly i still have a few that i need to go through) and that's despite my deep hatred of playing vs carebears. The breakthrough for me was to switch to a decent level disruptor ammo that brief stun proved to be invaluable. Plus TB+BE combo for a quick mop up is great. P.S. beware of nemeses when in the field. missile use considered appropriate apply stasis for a confirmed lock on target. that is all
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Post by docsteely on May 10, 2017 17:22:12 GMT
N2 - Nature Versus Nurture I. Resolve of the Shadowbroker Conditions: Full Extraction on Firebase White vs Cerberus, earn 3 personal gold medals Character: Asari Adept (not the Justicar) Weapon: M77-Paladin 44:57 -DocSteelyDevices - Retrieval - Devices Did I tell you the story about that guy who used to get devices on all his runs? Well that's me folks... The cruel part is when I get them on W3, cuz I tell myself now what's the chance to get them again? I finished with exactly 1 nuke that I used to kill the dragoons coming after me on the LZ and one tcp.
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Post by docsteely on May 13, 2017 20:30:25 GMT
N2 - Nature Versus Nurture II. Lay Down The Lawson
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Post by Clyde on May 14, 2017 2:04:21 GMT
I am going to start with Silver and work my way to Gold. Doc pls, what's a "Silver"? Go for gold and finish Ariake before Clyde . Go! See muahmuah wasn't the only one. frankiscrank pls
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Post by docsteely on May 14, 2017 16:52:30 GMT
Well... This challenge is not fun.
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Post by DistigousForest on May 14, 2017 17:14:48 GMT
Well... This challenge is not fun. Fuck that one, my worst was dying on extraction with 20 seconds left getting hit with two Banshee warps simultaneously. Skipped it and will do it later. What's your setup?
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Post by docsteely on May 14, 2017 18:02:08 GMT
... This challenge is not fun. Fuck that one, my worst was dying on extraction with 20 seconds left getting hit with two Banshee warps simultaneously. Skipped it and will do it later. What's your setup? Going with the Revenant, Inc Ammo, CM and Warfighter Package and a 63665 build.
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Post by DistigousForest on May 14, 2017 19:23:32 GMT
Fuck that one, my worst was dying on extraction with 20 seconds left getting hit with two Banshee warps simultaneously. Skipped it and will do it later. What's your setup? Going with the Revenant, Inc Ammo, CM and Warfighter Package and a 63665 build. I find the revy atrocious, it's horribly inaccurate and slows you down when you shoot it, so I went Katana (both guns are very meh). I went no Adrenaline Rush though, I focused on FEs with Incendiary ammo and spamming Carnage and Frags. It's great vs. armor which Reapers have a ton of, but kind of stinks against the Banshee's high Barriers. I've debated a lot on Disruptor vs. Incendiary ammo just for Banshees since I can get 6+6 FE's out of Carnage>Frags. Looking at the challenge again I'm not sure why I got stuck on it as there's only three medals and the Katana wasn't even that bad for me, I should try again soon.
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Post by muahmuah on May 14, 2017 19:48:26 GMT
Fuck that one, my worst was dying on extraction with 20 seconds left getting hit with two Banshee warps simultaneously. Skipped it and will do it later. What's your setup? Going with the Revenant, Inc Ammo, CM and Warfighter Package and a 63665 build. I recommend PA instead CM+incendiary ammo.With nade spam you will be able to kill everything very fast.Stay behind the two big chest in left from the stairs,which are close to the ammo box.You will have a good cover here.Also don't rush the objectives.Stay calm and you will do it.
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Post by muahmuah on May 14, 2017 19:56:59 GMT
Going with the Revenant, Inc Ammo, CM and Warfighter Package and a 63665 build. I find the revy atrocious, it's horribly inaccurate and slows you down when you shoot it, so I went Katana (both guns are very meh). I went no Adrenaline Rush though, I focused on FEs with Incendiary ammo and spamming Carnage and Frags. It's great vs. armor which Reapers have a ton of, but kind of stinks against the Banshee's high Barriers. I've debated a lot on Disruptor vs. Incendiary ammo just for Banshees since I can get 6+6 FE's out of Carnage>Frags. Looking at the challenge again I'm not sure why I got stuck on it as there's only three medals and the Katana wasn't even that bad for me, I should try again soon. I prefer Katana too.I've done six times that challenge(3 gold,3 plat) and never used Revenant,which doesn't make it worse choice tho.In my opinion both weapons are equal.The main problem are the banshees indeed,but with PA and grenades they can be stopped fast.Wish you good luck.You can do it.
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Post by DistigousForest on May 14, 2017 20:03:13 GMT
I find the revy atrocious, it's horribly inaccurate and slows you down when you shoot it, so I went Katana (both guns are very meh). I went no Adrenaline Rush though, I focused on FEs with Incendiary ammo and spamming Carnage and Frags. It's great vs. armor which Reapers have a ton of, but kind of stinks against the Banshee's high Barriers. I've debated a lot on Disruptor vs. Incendiary ammo just for Banshees since I can get 6+6 FE's out of Carnage>Frags. Looking at the challenge again I'm not sure why I got stuck on it as there's only three medals and the Katana wasn't even that bad for me, I should try again soon. I prefer Katana too.I've done six times that challenge(3 gold,3 plat) and never used Revenant,which doesn't make it worse choice tho.In my opinion both weapons are equal.The main problems are the banshees indeed,but with PA and grenades they can be stopped fast.Wish you good luck.You can do it. I gave the revenant a shot and hated it (it felt so much more clunky), but I agree they're basically equal. I do agree with PA for frag/carnage damage, my issues were impatience and poor play. Both of which have gotten much better since doing the rest of the N7 challanges and watching videos. I'm probably going to finish it before I give 6.II another try.
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Post by Heroicmass on May 14, 2017 20:51:04 GMT
The best advice i can give on the rio challenge is to stick to the 3 grenade boxes and spam frags like crazy.
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Post by Clyde on May 15, 2017 0:39:29 GMT
I distinctly remember opting for Disruptor on 183 Pull Ups and it making a big difference.
Then again that was years ago now and I can't imagine how Disruptor would be better than Incendiary vs. Reapers.
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Post by DistigousForest on May 15, 2017 1:58:30 GMT
I distinctly remember opting for Disruptor on 183 Pull Ups and it making a big difference. Then again that was years ago now and I can't imagine how Disruptor would be better than Incendiary vs. Reapers. I can think of three reasons: easy stuns, damage bonus against Banshee barriers, and constant chaining of explosions. With incendiary you gotta wait the 3 sec for another FE to proc, but if you take disruptor it's TB>FE all day with the FE being 6+6 vs. 1+6 if you use Incendiary.
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Post by Clyde on May 15, 2017 2:07:11 GMT
I distinctly remember opting for Disruptor on 183 Pull Ups and it making a big difference. Then again that was years ago now and I can't imagine how Disruptor would be better than Incendiary vs. Reapers. I can think of three reasons: easy stuns, damage bonus against Banshee barriers, and constant chaining of explosions. With incendiary you gotta wait the 3 sec for another FE to proc, but if you take disruptor it's TB>FE all day with the FE being 6+6 vs. 1+6 if you use Incendiary. I guess it makes sense, I mean, I did it. I also definitely used CM over PA but that's because I'm terrible and needed the additional shields. Which is why my time was close to an hour.
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Post by Arkhne on May 15, 2017 2:08:03 GMT
Reading this thread makes me want to solo, but the inherent memleak in a lot of those challenges (Collectors on Goddess comes to mind) turns me off themed challenges. It's quite obvious going through most themed challenge lists that PS3 was NOT considered in the pairings.
I like soloing (even when failing) for the challenge of it, and I like the feel of having more control of the game than I do with PUGs (I honestly feel PUG matches are harder than solos most of the time).
Also, when my wife asks about Incendiary vs Disruptor, I like to point out Tech Bursts vs Fire Explosions. Tech Bursts (and Disruptor Ammo in general) are great for Crowd Control whilst Fire Explosions (and Incendiary Ammo) tend to do more damage to singular enemies. As to the BF3 Soldier with Revenant or Katana vs Reapers on Rio, I'd have to say speccing for 6+6 FEs with a Power Amp and Disruptor, Warp, or Phasic (Specifically for Banshee barriers) would be the way to go. Revenant vs Katana is a pretty tough question on Rio, Revenant in Hard Cover is actually pretty decent at range, but the slowdown cripples you in close quarters, and I find Rio plays best when fighting in close quarters using lots of soft cover, because the open sightlines are just huge (And unless sniping, even Reapers have the advantage in the open).
So, eventhough I haven't done it myself (so feel free to ignore this), my short recommendation would be Power Amp, 6 in Carnage and Frags (spec the rest to personal preference) with a Katana and either Warp Ammo for general damage, or Phasic specifically for Banshees (Usually for shotguns I'd recommend Disruptor Ammo, but vs Reapers, Banshee Barriers really are the only impediment to an armour damage kit like BF3).
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