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Post by Sectiplave on May 15, 2017 4:02:21 GMT
Ohhh hadn't understood this thread before as I hadn't visited the challenge website, these actually look like really good fun! My main problem at the moment is I don't have a lot of this stuff unlocked yet, and by the lords I need weapon mod unlocks! Arkhne Damn I didn't realize the mem leak issues were that bad on PS3! I did some lengthy solo's back in the day on 360 but didn't run into those issues, was it only a PS3 thing?
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Post by MPApr2012 on May 15, 2017 4:44:08 GMT
Well... *there was a hole... screenshot i mean*This challenge is not fun. it sure isn't... in my case it was the first one where i clearly hit my skill ceiling, burned through a stash of good poweramps and ammo to no avail. after countless attempts of going through this guns blazing and all i needed an alternative approach, scrub-proof and fail-safe. so i specced out of carnage and full into fitness gave up on trying to get much use out of Rev (yet forgot to unequip the dead weight) had to grab all the crutches i could including Cyclonics, Geth scanner, and bottle of Campari and go fior an endurance run with the trusty Katana as the primary damage source with some situational frags. have a look at Mission_Scrubbed 's insightful writeups on the soldier builds and the mechanics/dynamics guides esp of the AR and AR focused builds. i for one used to treat the AR as an ancillary power but this challenge in particular made me change my perception. a lot
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Post by MPApr2012 on May 15, 2017 5:07:00 GMT
Well... This challenge is not fun. and don't feel too bad Doc , here... i see your Pull-Ups and raise it, my umpteenth attempt at Ash from the weekend it was. ...and that's what i'm seeing nowadays whenever i close my eyes
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Post by Arkhne on May 15, 2017 5:18:22 GMT
Ohhh hadn't understood this thread before as I hadn't visited the challenge website, these actually look like really good fun! My main problem at the moment is I don't have a lot of this stuff unlocked yet, and by the lords I need weapon mod unlocks! Arkhne Damn I didn't realize the mem leak issues were that bad on PS3! I did some lengthy solo's back in the day on 360 but didn't run into those issues, was it only a PS3 thing? 256MB ram doesn't go very far. Giant Hazard is almost unplayable, prone to crashing almost regardless of enemy faction. Collectors wear down the system, too, lengthy solos against them run a risk of hard freeze to (though they also like to troll you and crash on wave one after a reset, as I've had happen). Non-PS3 players have no clue how bad the PS3 Hardware can make the game. They laugh at the AI at <60fps, but they fail to acknowledge the handicaps we get to conpensate.
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Post by HamleticTortoise on May 15, 2017 6:23:34 GMT
Aaah, 183 pull-ups, almost as mind numbing as the mini-game it references! I think for this one, you have to decide if you want to play it aggressively, relying on damage to hold your ground, or defensively, preparing to move a lot and placing emphasis on survivability. True to my name, I went for the second option. AR is great for providing the extra durability to run across the map under ravager's fire - just remember to hit it before you are shield gated. I took the Revenant and it was painful, if I were to redo it (no chance) I'd probably switch to the Katana. I used inc ammo, and mostly detonated with carnage. Grenades were my panic-button. This is probably the only non-geth challenge where I used survivor loadout. This is far from an ideal setup dps-wise, but I am not very good at holding places, and I prefer to relocate early and often. Doing that here means exposing yourself to a lot of ravager's fire, which can quickly drain you of consumables. Sectiplave, looking forward to seeing your first submission in the themed challenge thread! Arkhne, I understand the extra problems plaguing PS3 players ; there's very little laughing going on in the themed challenge thread however - it's as friendly a community as I have ever seen. As an example, most solos on Giant Hazard have the options of using the regular Giant map for PS3 users - and I am sure that if we were to get more people from that platform attempting challenges and giving feedback, we'd be willing to adjust more rules to accomodate for the technical difficulties you are subjected to I actually almost submitted a "collectors' protocol" version of the Tales from the Trenches for PS3 users that'd allow using missiles on wave 8 instead of wave 3 (perhaps just one?), then rejected it because I don't exactly know how PS3 games flow. Should you decide to give it a try (wink wink), I'd be happy to hear your feedback! ... or you know, you could plug your controller into a pc, use mgamerz mod and join us in experiencing the many, many joys of Origin (tongue-in-cheek here, though I would actually like to play with you and other people from different platforms!)
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Post by muahmuah on May 15, 2017 9:12:40 GMT
Arkhne and Sectiplave,you are welcome in the themed challenges thread.It's always good to see new faces.Don't worry about hazard maps.For PS3 players are permitted the regular maps as Hamletic already mentioned.So,don't be shy,try some challenges and then post them in the thread.
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Post by muahmuah on May 15, 2017 9:16:53 GMT
Well... This challenge is not fun. and don't feel too bad Doc , here... i see your Pull-Ups and raise it, my umpteenth attempt at Ash from the weekend it was. ...and that's what i'm seeing nowadays whenever i close my eyes BTW,what's your build and consumables?
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Post by MPApr2012 on May 15, 2017 10:18:03 GMT
BTW,what's your build and consumables? Click Yay nostalgia! There's some Disruptor III ammo on top. I'd also put something like Cyclonics IV on for sure for even sillier tankiness but i'm broke, RNG hates me, and my emergency stash i have to keep reserved for the N7 tier for in however distant future that might be
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Post by DistigousForest on May 15, 2017 10:20:27 GMT
Ohhh hadn't understood this thread before as I hadn't visited the challenge website, these actually look like really good fun! My main problem at the moment is I don't have a lot of this stuff unlocked yet, and by the lords I need weapon mod unlocks! Arkhne Damn I didn't realize the mem leak issues were that bad on PS3! I did some lengthy solo's back in the day on 360 but didn't run into those issues, was it only a PS3 thing? 256MB ram doesn't go very far. Giant Hazard is almost unplayable, prone to crashing almost regardless of enemy faction. Collectors wear down the system, too, lengthy solos against them run a risk of hard freeze to (though they also like to troll you and crash on wave one after a reset, as I've had happen). Non-PS3 players have no clue how bad the PS3 Hardware can make the game. They laugh at the AI at <60fps, but they fail to acknowledge the handicaps we get to conpensate. We don't have it as bad on Xbox, but for me Goddess is a shit show. If I fight in the control room my FPS drops to single digits, same when shooting through the glass on Glacier. Xbox mem leak occurs after too many games in the same lobby, the game won't crash, but weird shit starts to happen (invis enemies/teammates, etc.).
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Post by DistigousForest on May 15, 2017 10:31:34 GMT
Reading this thread makes me want to solo, but the inherent memleak in a lot of those challenges (Collectors on Goddess comes to mind) turns me off themed challenges. It's quite obvious going through most themed challenge lists that PS3 was NOT considered in the pairings. I like soloing (even when failing) for the challenge of it, and I like the feel of having more control of the game than I do with PUGs (I honestly feel PUG matches are harder than solos most of the time). Also, when my wife asks about Incendiary vs Disruptor, I like to point out Tech Bursts vs Fire Explosions. Tech Bursts (and Disruptor Ammo in general) are great for Crowd Control whilst Fire Explosions (and Incendiary Ammo) tend to do more damage to singular enemies. As to the BF3 Soldier with Revenant or Katana vs Reapers on Rio, I'd have to say speccing for 6+6 FEs with a Power Amp and Disruptor, Warp, or Phasic (Specifically for Banshee barriers) would be the way to go. Revenant vs Katana is a pretty tough question on Rio, Revenant in Hard Cover is actually pretty decent at range, but the slowdown cripples you in close quarters, and I find Rio plays best when fighting in close quarters using lots of soft cover, because the open sightlines are just huge (And unless sniping, even Reapers have the advantage in the open). So, eventhough I haven't done it myself (so feel free to ignore this), my short recommendation would be Power Amp, 6 in Carnage and Frags (spec the rest to personal preference) with a Katana and either Warp Ammo for general damage, or Phasic specifically for Banshees (Usually for shotguns I'd recommend Disruptor Ammo, but vs Reapers, Banshee Barriers really are the only impediment to an armour damage kit like BF3). Can't forget about Incendiary/Incinerate cheese for high single target dps. Probably even more goofy than Warp/Incen and have her see Inferno nade>Incendiary Claymore (one shot should suffice) on a Gold/Plat Brute if she hasn't yet, it's fun watching the armor just melt. I agree with Power Amp, nades are the long range weapon for me in this challenge.
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Post by Sectiplave on May 15, 2017 11:10:27 GMT
We don't have it as bad on Xbox, but for me Goddess is a shit show. If I fight in the control room my FPS drops to single digits, same when shooting through the glass on Glacier. Xbox mem leak occurs after too many games in the same lobby, the game won't crash, but weird shit starts to happen (invis enemies/teammates, etc.). Ohhh now that brings back memories! I remember having to quit lobbies due to invisible enemies, or having some very odd matches with invisible team mates, I felt soo cheated out of my consumables! I notice on PC the never ending loading screen when trying to join Condor in progress is still present, that was another annoying one. muahmuah Thanks for the welcome. My PC manifest is at 56hours played currently, and I'm finishing off uncommon weapon unlocks in the hopes of getting more uncommon weapon mod rewards, it seems the store has low priority on weapon mods! I'm not confident to start on Gold attempts (I never completed a solo Platinum on 360) until I have some well leveled weapon mods. I'm playing nothing but Gold/Plat currently so I hope in the next 40ish hours to have weapon mods unlocked and leveled enough to start making attempts and learning. Watching other peoples runs when I get some spare time is also proving very useful, making sure you can maximize all right hand advantage opportunities and keep checking flanks are things I know I'll need to work on.
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Post by muahmuah on May 15, 2017 11:24:58 GMT
BTW,what's your build and consumables? Click Yay nostalgia! There's some Disruptor III ammo on top. I'd also put something like Cyclonics IV on for sure for even sillier tankiness but i'm broke, RNG hates me, and my emergency stash i have to keep reserved for the N7 tier for in however distant future that might be
For some reasons can't open the link on my phone,but will check it later.
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Post by Sonashii on May 15, 2017 14:24:45 GMT
Must.... not... jump into... this bandwagon again.. No, I won't start redoing all those N7 challenges. Some of them were pain even on Silver dammit! and I'm not a solo type of player. But I admire your strength Doc. Hell, everyone who complete this series on Gold should receive a goddamn medal for it. And I don't want to even think about Platinum...
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Post by muahmuah on May 15, 2017 14:47:03 GMT
BTW,what's your build and consumables? Click Yay nostalgia! There's some Disruptor III ammo on top. I'd also put something like Cyclonics IV on for sure for even sillier tankiness but i'm broke, RNG hates me, and my emergency stash i have to keep reserved for the N7 tier for in however distant future that might be
Now is saw the build.I will recomend you to use mantis as main weapon with full concussive shot and AR,without grenades.Disruptor ammo with concussive is a very effective combo.
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Post by Clyde on May 15, 2017 14:59:15 GMT
Arkhne the challenges are doable on ps3 but there are some painful ones. You'll just have to reset between attempts, or complete on first try I've done a few of the duo challenges on there and they weren't so bad.
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Post by Arkhne on May 15, 2017 17:11:04 GMT
We'll definitely see about this series when I find a capture card at a decent price that isn't utter crap (like hell am I paying €200). This is pretty much the one that interests me the most, not like that stupid tiers of whatever-cheese, I don't even want to contemplate some of those setups, they just make me sick. As to joining the PC crowd, my craptop doesn't even stand a chance of running this game, and since it's a laptop, I can't really upgrade it, and I'm not willing to get anything better (partially due to the absurd 300%+ markup on tech items in Finland, partially because I just don't see the point). Also didn't specifically look into the discussion of the Mantis Soldier one, but I will confirm that I used to use AR-reloads to double tap with the Widow or Platinum, would be very surprised if it wasn't enough of Gold with the Mantis. AR-Mantis is a pretty good combo to begin with, just have to be a good shot. For Inferno Grenade / Incendiary Ammo Claymore, this is my standard KroSol, I just can't enjoy any other weapon on him, and can see no other way of speccing him that would be even half as good (I already have the Warlord for pure melee, and the KroSent for melee-hybrid). Yes, the cheese is real, yes, it instantly kills Brutes on Gold, it's broken as hell, too powerful for Gold, but the shields on Platinum are a bitch (I don't Acolyte, especially not on Krogans).
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Post by frankiscrank on May 15, 2017 18:50:48 GMT
..., not like that stupid tiers of whatever-cheese, I don't even want to contemplate some of those setups, they just make me sick. Well, The 7 Tiers of Neufchatel was meant as a Bonus Mini Series to celebrate 100 000 views of the challenge thread. If you had done as much challenges as most of the posters above you for the themed challenge thread, maybe you would have appreciated a "somewhat more op challenge" as well. Even some of the (imho) best gamers in this forum seemed to see it that way and submitted runs for it. TL;DR: If you don't like it - and not even attempted it, don't judge it. ...this is my standard KroSol,... Out of curiosity: why Shredder Mod instead of High Velocity Barrel?
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Post by DistigousForest on May 15, 2017 19:51:12 GMT
We'll definitely see about this series when I find a capture card at a decent price that isn't utter crap (like hell am I paying €200). This is pretty much the one that interests me the most, not like that stupid tiers of whatever-cheese, I don't even want to contemplate some of those setups, they just make me sick. ... There's always Plat if you feel they're too cheesy for Gold, no console players have done all seven yet on Platinum. Like frankiscrank said though, they're mostly for fun to give you a break from the other challenge series.
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Post by Arkhne on May 15, 2017 20:32:44 GMT
..., not like that stupid tiers of whatever-cheese, I don't even want to contemplate some of those setups, they just make me sick. Well, The 7 Tiers of Neufchatel was meant as a Bonus Mini Series to celebrate 100 000 views of the challenge thread. If you had done as much challenges as most of the posters above you for the themed challenge thread, maybe you would have appreciated a "somewhat more op challenge" as well. Even some of the (imho) best gamers in this forum seemed to see it that way and submitted runs for it. TL;DR: If you don't like it - and not even attempted it, don't judge it. ...this is my standard KroSol,... Out of curiosity: why Shredder Mod instead of High Velocity Barrel? I don't consider those matchups OP, just sickening. I will consistently play better, and kill more, faster, with Raider EDI than Reegar EDI, same goes for Lancer TGI vs Harrier TGI. Eh, Shreder vs HVB changes based on how I feel at the time (Sometimes I even weight glitch HVB), doesn't really make much difference (On Gold), imho, the cheese takes care of everything.
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Post by MPApr2012 on May 15, 2017 21:45:23 GMT
Must.... not... jump into... this bandwagon again.. No, I won't start redoing all those N7 challenges. u sure about this? think about it. u remember how much... fun it was, right? come back Sonashii, join us again... and rejoice.
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Post by Sonashii on May 15, 2017 22:53:57 GMT
LOL MrApr2012 Do you seriously want me to suffer again? Let me think about it.... Pull ups... Ash.... Ariake... those three are my wet dream! But seriously, you haven't played with me. I'm a real scrub when it comes to doing some hard duo/solo challenges. Muahmuah can confirm it haha. And today Docsteely helped me with my BF3 Soldier practice. Well, with teammates Katana vs. gold Reapers is okay-ish. I won't touch Revenant even with the stick though. There's no real reason to use this... gun. It's not like the best AR in the game right? But it slows you down while firing. Why? Even freaking, heavier Typhoon doesn't do that. Also just a couple a minutes ago, I failed at accomplishing 15.I challenge from Hamletic's series. Wave 8 Plat/Rio/Collectors and I was raped by Primes, Pyros and Troopers + lag ofc. That was nice run tbh but ultimately we failed And I should wait till you finish your run, then you can give me some tips okay? Coz you're about to finish it, right? PS. We're really hijacking Doc's thread now
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Post by Clyde on May 15, 2017 23:16:51 GMT
We'll definitely see about this series when I find a capture card at a decent price that isn't utter crap (like hell am I paying €200). This is pretty much the one that interests me the most, not like that stupid tiers of whatever-cheese, I don't even want to contemplate some of those setups, they just make me sick. Also didn't specifically look into the discussion of the Mantis Soldier one, but I will confirm that I used to use AR-reloads to double tap with the Widow or Platinum, would be very surprised if it wasn't enough of Gold with the Mantis. AR-Mantis is a pretty good combo to begin with, just have to be a good shot. I'm sure you can get a capture device on the cheap now, since all next gen consoles have built-in recording. And the 7 Tiers of Neufchatel is a great series; just think of it like that thing I do with my tongue that you like: don't knock it til you try it Regarding the Ash challenge: all Mantis, Adrenaline Rush w/Disruptor Ammo & Concussive Shot Tech Burst party is the way to go. If I could do that challenge over (hey, I can!) I would skip Frags altogether since I hardly used them. Phantoms gave me the most trouble, but if you get them at a distance with the Mantis, then CC, Tech Burst + Shredder DoT takes care of the rest.
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Post by MPApr2012 on May 16, 2017 1:41:00 GMT
Now is saw the build.I will recomend you to use mantis as main weapon with full concussive shot and AR,without grenades.Disruptor ammo with concussive is a very effective combo. Regarding the Ash challenge: all Mantis, Adrenaline Rush w/Disruptor Ammo & Concussive Shot Tech Burst party is the way to go. If I could do that challenge over (hey, I can!) I would skip Frags altogether since I hardly used them. Phantoms gave me the most trouble, but if you get them at a distance with the Mantis, then CC, Tech Burst + Shredder DoT takes care of the rest. thank you both for the advice, much appreicated i am indeed reaching that point again where i'd need to try a different approach. i will try Mantis even if only for a change of pace as well as give my my click fingers a chance to recover from all the Mattocking. hehe i got really close to macroing damn thing have to say. i have considered Mantis run previously but the deterrent has been the mission's medal requirements. my killstreak confidence is non existent to the point where i don't ever rely on getting that medal, and it's highly doubtful i get the 10 ws. which leaves me with the grabs/headshots/kills (easy enough) and either a weapon or a power kills. a gold medal of techbursts alone is again highly unlikely (combat powers... sigh thanks BW) which leaves me with the sniper kills. I'll see how far milking first five waves is going to get me since my Mantis drop rate goes down dramatically in the latter waves in favour of the powers/power combos. but that's okay since i now know it's going to be another hour+ runs for me so can easiliy take my time
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Post by MPApr2012 on May 16, 2017 2:34:56 GMT
LOL MrApr2012 Do you seriously want me to suffer again? Let me think about it.... Pull ups... Ash.... Ariake... those three are my wet dream! But seriously, you haven't played with me. I'm a real scrub when it comes to doing some hard duo/solo challenges. Muahmuah can confirm it haha. And today Docsteely helped me with my BF3 Soldier practice. Well, with teammates Katana vs. gold Reapers is okay-ish. I won't touch Revenant even with the stick though. There's no real reason to use this... gun. It's not like the best AR in the game right? But it slows you down while firing. Why? Even freaking, heavier Typhoon doesn't do that. Also just a couple a minutes ago, I failed at accomplishing 15.I challenge from Hamletic's series. Wave 8 Plat/Rio/Collectors and I was raped by Primes, Pyros and Troopers + lag ofc. That was nice run tbh but ultimately we failed And I should wait till you finish your run, then you can give me some tips okay? Coz you're about to finish it, right? PS. We're really hijacking Doc's thread now i'm sure Doc wouldn't mind much, right Doc, especially if the resuld is luring you back in doing the gold run with us and yeah well i watched your videos so yeah you may as well stop selling yourself short and drop the scrub facade hehe as for me, i'm sure i'll get there! all i have to is to do finish ash and then waltz the three n7 tier ones including Ariake piece of cake, i says! It's only gonna take me a few attempts each and i'll be done in no time
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Post by Arkhne on May 16, 2017 3:00:36 GMT
We'll definitely see about this series when I find a capture card at a decent price that isn't utter crap (like hell am I paying €200). This is pretty much the one that interests me the most, not like that stupid tiers of whatever-cheese, I don't even want to contemplate some of those setups, they just make me sick. Also didn't specifically look into the discussion of the Mantis Soldier one, but I will confirm that I used to use AR-reloads to double tap with the Widow or Platinum, would be very surprised if it wasn't enough of Gold with the Mantis. AR-Mantis is a pretty good combo to begin with, just have to be a good shot. I'm sure you can get a capture device on the cheap nowYou have no clue what it's like in Finland. Prices never changed, "used" things come at the same price as new (even if the "new" one is actually a better model), there's a 200-300% markup on everything vaguely tech related.
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