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Post by phoray on Mar 4, 2017 19:47:58 GMT
But now I guess I get Geth War Assets. Legion being Legion but not Legion is a bit depressing. I personally define "a person" as their collection of memories. So it's like a zombie Legion is walking around and his lack of memory more sad than his actual death. Do I need to finish all these fetch quests before I attack the Geth Reaper signal ship? Refresh my memory - Did Legion die during the Suicide Mission in ME2? Also, re Citadel fetch quests - you should be able to drop any of them off anytime between now and when you start the endgame run (point of no return we keep talking about). The concern with the earlier ones was because if the Citadel Coup that trigger right after you do Priority Tuchanka. Yep. I had picked Legion instead of Tali for the Engineer Tube part. I overestimated a connected AI interface as being more capable at quick calculations than an organic. I still think that, honestly, but I guess Tali being a special snowflake took precedence over logic. Good to know  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 20:02:06 GMT
Refresh my memory - Did Legion die during the Suicide Mission in ME2? Also, re Citadel fetch quests - you should be able to drop any of them off anytime between now and when you start the endgame run (point of no return we keep talking about). The concern with the earlier ones was because if the Citadel Coup that trigger right after you do Priority Tuchanka. Yep. I had picked Legion instead of Tali for the Engineer Tube part. I overestimated a connected AI interface as being more capable at quick calculations than an organic. I still think that, honestly, but I guess Tali being a special snowflake took precedence over logic. Good to know If he was loyal, he should have been deemed capable to do that job. Who was your first 2nd fire team leader (i.e. the one leading the other team down the other passage while you were opening the values for Legion? and was he/she loyal? |
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Post by phoray on Mar 4, 2017 20:38:55 GMT
Yep. I had picked Legion instead of Tali for the Engineer Tube part. I overestimated a connected AI interface as being more capable at quick calculations than an organic. I still think that, honestly, but I guess Tali being a special snowflake took precedence over logic. Good to know If he was loyal, he should have been deemed capable to do that job. Who was your first 2nd fire team leader (i.e. the one leading the other team down the other passage while you were opening the values for Legion? and was he/she loyal? I did 100% of all loyalty missions, they were all loyal. Um. I think I picked Samara as a group leader as well as my biotics lady. But maybe... I picked Jacob for something, hoping he'd die. Maybe I picked squad leader for him. |
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If he was loyal, he should have been deemed capable to do that job. Who was your first 2nd fire team leader (i.e. the one leading the other team down the other passage while you were opening the values for Legion? and was he/she loyal? I did 100% of all loyalty missions, they were all loyal. Um. I think I picked Samara as a group leader as well as my biotics lady. But maybe... I picked Jacob for something, hoping he'd die. Maybe I picked squad leader for him. OK, I remember now, you did pick Samara. She's not a good team leader because she works alone... so Legion died because you selected her on that leg of the mission; not due to any shortcomings in his skills. At any rate... maybe grab a box of kleenex now. I'm not sure how this will play out exactly with the Geth VI instead of Legion (no doubt themikefest could tell you for sure), but I think it could be a rough choice coming up. |
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Post by phoray on Mar 4, 2017 21:11:06 GMT
I did 100% of all loyalty missions, they were all loyal. Um. I think I picked Samara as a group leader as well as my biotics lady. But maybe... I picked Jacob for something, hoping he'd die. Maybe I picked squad leader for him. OK, I remember now, you did pick Samara. She's not a good team leader because she works alone... so Legion died because you selected her on that leg of the mission; not due to any shortcomings in his skills. At any rate... maybe grab a box of kleenex now. I'm not sure how this will play out exactly with the Geth VI instead of Legion (no doubt themikefest could tell you for sure), but I think it could be a rough choice coming up. Oh yeah, I bet. I was picking up on some clues during that mission with Legion-2, when I kept getting all this info about the Geth. I'm sensing a Quarian VS Geth choice coming up. Offhand, I'd side Geth. The Quarians started their problems when they freaked out about that first Geth not turning itself off. But another thing, they're only at war with the Geth in ME3 because they refused to give up a homeworld NONE of them have seen. They'd be halfway to being acclimated to a new star system, or maybe even completely done, but no. They have to weaken themselves in their little bubbles. But then I remember the Reapers can just blow their horn and take over the Geth? So, it's a bit like the Grey Wardens in DAI. When Cory could control their mind, should you really be keeping them around? Except DAI doesn't punish you for keeping them. I have a feeling ME3 probably would. Flying by the seat of my pants. Let's go. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 21:13:05 GMT
OK, I remember now, you did pick Samara. She's not a good team leader because she works alone... so Legion died because you selected her on that leg of the mission; not due to any shortcomings in his skills. At any rate... maybe grab a box of kleenex now. I'm not sure how this will play out exactly with the Geth VI instead of Legion (no doubt themikefest could tell you for sure), but I think it could be a rough choice coming up. Oh yeah, I bet. I was picking up on some clues during that mission with Legion-2, when I kept getting all this info about the Geth. I'm sensing a Quarian VS Geth choice coming up. Offhand, I'd side Geth. The Quarians started their problems when they freaked out about that first Geth not turning itself off. But another thing, they're only at war with the Geth in ME3 because they refused to give up a homeworld NONE of them have seen. They'd be halfway to being acclimated to a new star system, or maybe even completely done, but no. They have to weaken themselves in their little bubbles. But then I remember the Reapers can just blow their horn and take over the Geth? So, it's a bit like the Grey Wardens in DAI. When Cory could control their mind, should you really be keeping them around? Except DAI doesn't punish you for keeping them. I have a feeling ME3 probably would. Flying by the seat of my pants. Let's go. We;re with you. Lead on. |
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Post by phoray on Mar 4, 2017 21:26:13 GMT
Began the attack.
I know it's Tali homeworld but the Geth were born here too. Now I feel like I'm attacking to steal a planet from it's natives.
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Post by dragontartare on Mar 4, 2017 21:35:39 GMT
Began the attack. I know it's Tali homeworld but the Geth were born here too. Now I feel like I'm attacking to steal a planet from it's natives. This was a tough choice for me, too. My sympathies were with the geth. |
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Post by phoray on Mar 4, 2017 21:48:27 GMT
That is such a nice skyline. I wonder why the Geth don't just live off world. "We are not Legion." "You are today."  |
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Post by phoray on Mar 4, 2017 21:53:56 GMT
Does everyone die a million times at the Reaper vs Shepherd targeting? Just me?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 22:04:58 GMT
Does everyone die a million times at the Reaper vs Shepherd targeting? Just me? it's tricky to learn, but once you get onto the trick of it, it's not too bad. You don't have to keep the thing pointed at the reaper the whole time. Just point and start the scan and when you see the reaper starting to aim toward you, stop your scan, turn and run while counting to 5 or 6 (depending on difficulty). Then turn back to face the reaper and start your scanner again (it will pick up where it left off). Rinse and repeat in that same rhythm. When he moves in closer, the timing gets a little shorter, but its the same sort of deal. Aim, scan, run while counting, turn, aim, scan. (You don't have to scope in though with the left trigger on the Xbox to scan.) Other people do combat rolls rather than run so they can continue to look toward the reaper. I'm more successful at running. You want to be timing you scans so you're doing them when the laser is up in the air above your head. |
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Post by phoray on Mar 4, 2017 22:06:16 GMT
I died like 20 times but finally figured out that the scan picks up where it left off. Now that that is done... Sometimes I don't like being right.  they never explain whether or not the Reapers could regain control of the Geth regardless of their new free will. So that risk is still on the table. The Geth aren't... Quite full blown life yet.... I feel like this choice is so forced. >_< |
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Post by melbella on Mar 4, 2017 22:09:19 GMT
Does everyone die a million times at the Reaper vs Shepherd targeting? Just me?
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I've found a couple ways to do it. First is, stand in one spot somewhere towards the front in the middle and don't move hardly at all. When the beam gets near you, roll the other way. The other way is to run around like a nut avoiding the beam.  Wherever you leave off on the targeting, you start there when you re-target. So, target, run away when the beam gets close, re-target once the beam passes you. It takes longer but you might die fewer times. The closer to the center you hold the target, the faster it closes in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 22:09:45 GMT
Sometimes I don't like being right. they never explain whether or not the Reapers could regain control of the Geth regardless of their new free will. So that risk is still on the table. The Geth aren't... Quite full blown life yet.... I feel like this choice is so forced. >_< Have you made the choice yet?... biting my nails waiting to know what happens. |
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Post by melbella on Mar 4, 2017 22:13:37 GMT
I died like 20 times but finally figured out that the scan picks up where it left off. Now that that is done... Sometimes I don't like being right. they never explain whether or not the Reapers could regain control of the Geth regardless of their new free will. So that risk is still on the table.The Geth aren't... Quite full blown life yet.... I feel like this choice is so forced. >_<
Considering organics can be indoctrinated, I don't really see the geth as any more of a risk than an organic race. The difference is the scope. Since geth communicate via ftl networks, what happens to one can happen to them all in a very short time. Just because one organic gets indoctrinated, doesn't mean everyone he talks to will be too.
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Post by phoray on Mar 4, 2017 22:14:05 GMT
Sometimes I don't like being right. they never explain whether or not the Reapers could regain control of the Geth regardless of their new free will. So that risk is still on the table. The Geth aren't... Quite full blown life yet.... I feel like this choice is so forced. >_< Have you made the choice yet?... biting my nails waiting to know what happens. Lol no. Took a bathroom break. Tried to call Husband for a "lifeline" to discuss it with someone who doesn't know anything at all about the game, he didn't pick up. I lifted the controller and highlighted "upload the code." It's in the Paragon spot.. pondering if it's like the Krogans vs the Salarians but I have a feeling it's more like... 100% death for the side I don't pick. |
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Post by melbella on Mar 4, 2017 22:16:55 GMT
Fair warning: if you don't like the results of your choice, you have to fight the one on one reaper battle again.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 22:17:44 GMT
Have you made the choice yet?... biting my nails waiting to know what happens. Lol no. Took a bathroom break. Tried to call Husband for a "lifeline" to discuss it with someone who doesn't know anything at all about the game, he didn't pick up. I lifted the controller and highlighted "upload the code." It's in the Paragon spot.. pondering if it's like the Krogans vs the Salarians but I have a feeling it's more like... 100% death for the side I don't pick. I know what would be possible if Legion were there, just don't know if it's an option if he isn't. |
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Post by melbella on Mar 4, 2017 22:19:50 GMT
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Post by themikefest on Mar 4, 2017 22:20:07 GMT
I saw no purpose in painting the target. When it was fired upon the first time, the thing fell over. It looked to be destroyed. Apparently Bioware wanted to take it a step further. Shepard paints the target. It gets hit. It doesn't fall over like it did the first time. Why? It happens again a couple more times until Shepard and the reaper can kiss each other. Now it falls over destroyed. Was all that done because it looked cool? As Sovereign says. Its something you cannot comprehend. You know what would have been cool? tell me themikefest. I will. The reaper fires its beam of doom horizontally at Shepard instead of vertically killing Shepard.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 22:24:17 GMT
I saw no purpose in painting the target. When it was fired upon the first time, the thing fell over. It looked to be destroyed. Apparently Bioware wanted to take it a step further. Shepard paints the target. It gets hit. It doesn't fall over like it did the first time. Why? It happens again a couple more times until Shepard and the reaper can kiss each other. Now it falls over destroyed. Was all that done because it looked cool? As Sovereign says. Its something you cannot comprehend. You know what would have been cool? tell me themikefest. I will. The reaper fires its beam of doom horizontally at Shepard instead of vertically killing Shepard. Can't argue with you on this one... dumb, dumb idea for a fight. |
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 4, 2017 22:32:11 GMT
Bad as Bio's boss fights typically are, their alternatives are often worse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 22:53:49 GMT
yeah, i died a bunch on that reaper fight.  not a big fan of it. so, you're definitely not alone in that regard. this suspense is killing me though! |
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Mar 4, 2017 23:08:42 GMT
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Wherever you leave off on the targeting, you start there when you re-target. So, target, run away when the beam gets close, re-target once the beam passes you. It takes longer but you might die fewer times. The closer to the center you hold the target, the faster it closes in.
not a big fan of it. so, you're definitely not alone in that regard.