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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 2, 2017 7:20:23 GMT
 Here, to tide us over.  Hopefully, Suvi's the woman in the screenshot. Human female: Check Ginger hair: Check Sitting in Suvi's seat: Check Only female on the Tempest unaccounted for: Check That's Suvi. That's not even the original image, though. It's clearly been altered:  Unless this was just an old build of Suvi before she had red hair, that's really the most abundantly obvious trait that's not matching up based on BioWare's description of the character. Perhaps it's possible the Tempest had a Science Officer that preceded Suvi that was killed? I'm not even sure I remember what video this scene came from. I just don't believe we can conclude with absolute certainty this is Suvi merely because some female human NPC is sitting in the Science Officer's station. That's certainly the first conclusion one would make, but this NPC is clearly not a redhead. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 2, 2017 7:40:43 GMT
Technically, that could be a redhead? There are lots of redheads with very light, kind of "strawberry blonde" hair. Not all redheads have the same shade of red strands. Combining that with the fact the lighting is obviously washing out some of the colors, that NPC pictured could certainly be a redhead.
EDIT: Also, that wasn't me forwarding it as a new image... It was me making a fun edit of the screenshot we have.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 2, 2017 7:52:59 GMT
Technically, that could be a redhead? There are lots of redheads with very light, kind of "strawberry blonde" hair. Not all redheads have the same shade of red strands. Combining that with the fact the lighting is obviously washing out some of the colors, that NPC pictured could certainly be a redhead. EDIT: Also, that wasn't me forwarding it as a new image... It was me making a fun edit of the screenshot we have. I understood. I just noticed Hanako was using your altered image as evidence that she is a redhead. I also don't think there's really a strong claim for the "strawberry blonde" hair either, as I'm not seeing any hint of strawberry in her hair:    From the back of her head she looks more like a dirty blonde. The front seems to be affected by the lights of the consoles in front of her, or whatever may be outside the bridge of the Tempest. That's not to say that isn't Suvi, but she doesn't appear to be a redhead, even if it's not exactly the most clear and precise image of that NPC. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 2, 2017 7:56:29 GMT
Technically, that could be a redhead? There are lots of redheads with very light, kind of "strawberry blonde" hair. Not all redheads have the same shade of red strands. Combining that with the fact the lighting is obviously washing out some of the colors, that NPC pictured could certainly be a redhead. EDIT: Also, that wasn't me forwarding it as a new image... It was me making a fun edit of the screenshot we have. I understood. I just noticed Hanako was using your altered image as evidence that she is a redhead. I also don't think there's really a strong claim for the "strawberry blonde" hair either, as I'm not seeing any hint of strawberry in her hair: From the back of her head she looks more like a dirty blonde. The front seems to be affected by the lights of the consoles in front of her, or whatever may be outside the bridge of the Tempest. That's not to say that isn't Suvi, but she doesn't appear to be a redhead, even if it's not exactly the most clear and precise image of that NPC. This is why we need a better, clearer, updated screenshot of Suvi. I'm tired of not knowing. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 2, 2017 8:03:58 GMT
This is why we need a better, clearer, updated screenshot of Suvi. I'm tired of not knowing. I agree. What's the harm in showing her? BioWare doesn't have to talk about her character or provide any spoilers. We just want to know what she looks like! You'd think we would know all the major characters on the Tempest by now, considering how many hours we'll be spending with them. |
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Post by nxp5 on Mar 2, 2017 8:57:41 GMT
it could very well be two strawberries the bridge of the tempest with Suvi and Kallo (Jath)  ( see here) |
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Post by Crim on Mar 2, 2017 15:04:05 GMT
No luck with tweeting the devs...  Bioware pls, why u do dis?  Lemme get hyped for Suvi...  |
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Post by ruffian on Mar 2, 2017 16:42:30 GMT
I don't really understand why they're so hesitant to even show us what the Tempest crew looks like. I suppose details about the romances can count as story spoilers, but we've already seen all of our squadmates, Kallo and Lexi. What's the point in keeping Suvi and Gil hidden? How is showing us what they look like spoiling anything?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 2, 2017 16:52:07 GMT
Human female: Check Ginger hair: Check Sitting in Suvi's seat: Check Only female on the Tempest unaccounted for: Check That's Suvi. That's not even the original image, though. It's clearly been altered: *snip* Unless this was just an old build of Suvi before she had red hair, that's really the most abundantly obvious trait that's not matching up based on BioWare's description of the character. Perhaps it's possible the Tempest had a Science Officer that preceded Suvi that was killed? I'm not even sure I remember what video this scene came from. I just don't believe we can conclude with absolute certainty this is Suvi merely because some female human NPC is sitting in the Science Officer's station. That's certainly the first conclusion one would make, but this NPC is clearly not a redhead. This video actually came just by itself not from a video. I can. We know that the Tempest has a crew of ten not counting Ryder, and we have the other nine accounted for meaning that can be nobody else but Suvi. Technically, that could be a redhead? There are lots of redheads with very light, kind of "strawberry blonde" hair. Not all redheads have the same shade of red strands. Combining that with the fact the lighting is obviously washing out some of the colors, that NPC pictured could certainly be a redhead. EDIT: Also, that wasn't me forwarding it as a new image... It was me making a fun edit of the screenshot we have. I understood. I just noticed Hanako was using your altered image as evidence that she is a redhead. I also don't think there's really a strong claim for the "strawberry blonde" hair either, as I'm not seeing any hint of strawberry in her hair: I wasn't actually. I was using the original image. The only reason the altered image was there was because I was quoting gaycaravaggio . |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 2, 2017 17:09:17 GMT
That's not even the original image, though. It's clearly been altered: *snip* Unless this was just an old build of Suvi before she had red hair, that's really the most abundantly obvious trait that's not matching up based on BioWare's description of the character. Perhaps it's possible the Tempest had a Science Officer that preceded Suvi that was killed? I'm not even sure I remember what video this scene came from. I just don't believe we can conclude with absolute certainty this is Suvi merely because some female human NPC is sitting in the Science Officer's station. That's certainly the first conclusion one would make, but this NPC is clearly not a redhead. This video actually came just by itself not from a video. I can. We know that the Tempest has a crew of ten not counting Ryder, and we have the other nine accounted for meaning that can be nobody else but Suvi. I understood. I just noticed Hanako was using your altered image as evidence that she is a redhead. I also don't think there's really a strong claim for the "strawberry blonde" hair either, as I'm not seeing any hint of strawberry in her hair: I wasn't actually. I was using the original image. The only reason the altered image was there was because I was quoting gaycaravaggio . So then who originally got that image? Did BioWare send it out teasing the fans? Seems kind of odd they'd sent out a blurry image without any context. Well, technically, the Normandy SR-1 and SR-2 had a lot of non-essential crew that never had names. I believe some footage we've seen inside the Tempest on various videos have shown similar non-essential NPCs. Is it unreasonable to believe some of those are just wandering the Tempest? I will be absolutely shocked if there is no one on the ship except for the squadmates and essential crew members that have been named. Ah okay. Fair enough. I still don't understand why you believe the original image has red hair, but that's fine. We will find out in two weeks!!!!  |
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Post by Crim on Mar 2, 2017 17:11:27 GMT
I don't really understand why they're so hesitant to even show us what the Tempest crew looks like. I suppose details about the romances can count as story spoilers, but we've already seen all of our squadmates, Kallo and Lexi. What's the point in keeping Suvi and Gil hidden? How is showing us what they look like spoiling anything? #HideUrGays |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 2, 2017 17:14:25 GMT
This video actually came just by itself not from a video. I can. We know that the Tempest has a crew of ten not counting Ryder, and we have the other nine accounted for meaning that can be nobody else but Suvi. I wasn't actually. I was using the original image. The only reason the altered image was there was because I was quoting gaycaravaggio . So then who originally got that image? Did BioWare send it out teasing the fans? Seems kind of odd they'd sent out a blurry image without any context. Well, technically, the Normandy SR-1 and SR-2 had a lot of non-essential crew that never had names. I believe some footage we've seen inside the Normandy on various videos have shown similar non-essential NPCs. Is it unreasonable to believe some of those are just wandering the Tempest? I will be absolutely shocked if there is no one on the ship except for the squadmates and essential crew members that have been named. Ah okay. Fair enough. I still don't understand why you believe the original image has red hair, but that's fine. We will find out in two weeks!!!! Amazon released it along with over a dozen other images, like for example the first good look at Dr. Lexi(whom Bioware also didn't confirm was here until the video release). I think the image was more for Kallo since he was in it really clear and up close and Suvi was in the background. Here is the actual original image: Well, that's exactly what they are doing. Bioware stated that the crew is much smaller but that you'll be able to have interactions with every single one. Then the articles came out, and a few mentioned that the Tempest has ten people aboard other than Ryder and SAM: the six squadmates and the four crew members we know about. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 2, 2017 17:31:24 GMT
So then who originally got that image? Did BioWare send it out teasing the fans? Seems kind of odd they'd sent out a blurry image without any context. Well, technically, the Normandy SR-1 and SR-2 had a lot of non-essential crew that never had names. I believe some footage we've seen inside the Normandy on various videos have shown similar non-essential NPCs. Is it unreasonable to believe some of those are just wandering the Tempest? I will be absolutely shocked if there is no one on the ship except for the squadmates and essential crew members that have been named. Ah okay. Fair enough. I still don't understand why you believe the original image has red hair, but that's fine. We will find out in two weeks!!!! Amazon released it along with over a dozen other images, like for example the first good look at Dr. Lexi(whom Bioware also didn't confirm was here until the video release). I think the image was more for Kallo since he was in it really clear and up close and Suvi was in the background. Here is the actual original image: Well, that's exactly what they are doing. Bioware stated that the crew is much smaller but that you'll be able to have interactions with every single one. Then the articles came out, and a few mentioned that the Tempest has ten people aboard other than Ryder and SAM: the six squadmates and the four crew members we know about. Ah, I see. I've never seen the entire image before. That makes sense now given proper context. Thanks That's really interesting. Do you know when Amazon posted those images? I'm under the impression Suvi must have gone through an aesthetic change at some point. Perhaps BioWare isn't willing to talk about it because that image isn't reflective of what she looks like now? |
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Post by ruffian on Mar 2, 2017 17:32:20 GMT
I don't really understand why they're so hesitant to even show us what the Tempest crew looks like. I suppose details about the romances can count as story spoilers, but we've already seen all of our squadmates, Kallo and Lexi. What's the point in keeping Suvi and Gil hidden? How is showing us what they look like spoiling anything? #HideUrGays If Suvi and Gil are both gay and they're the only Tempest crewmembers we get no info on before release it will be a pretty bad look. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 2, 2017 17:51:29 GMT
If Suvi and Gil are both gay and they're the only Tempest crewmembers we get no info on before release it will be a pretty bad look. You'd hope BioWare wouldn't do something as ridiculous as that... Historically, they've had a pretty good track record of being far more inclusive than any other game developer. |
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Post by merkit on Mar 2, 2017 18:06:12 GMT
Mass Effect @masseffect
Tomorrow you'll get your first look at exploration in Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Science officer should get involved in exploring, right?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 2, 2017 18:20:39 GMT
Amazon released it along with over a dozen other images, like for example the first good look at Dr. Lexi(whom Bioware also didn't confirm was here until the video release). I think the image was more for Kallo since he was in it really clear and up close and Suvi was in the background. Here is the actual original image: Well, that's exactly what they are doing. Bioware stated that the crew is much smaller but that you'll be able to have interactions with every single one. Then the articles came out, and a few mentioned that the Tempest has ten people aboard other than Ryder and SAM: the six squadmates and the four crew members we know about. Ah, I see. I've never seen the entire image before. That makes sense now given proper context. Thanks That's really interesting. Do you know when Amazon posted those images? I'm under the impression Suvi must have gone through an aesthetic change at some point. Perhaps BioWare isn't willing to talk about it because that image isn't reflective of what she looks like now? You're welcome. Glad I could help.  They posted them a couple weeks ago, on Valentine's Day. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 2, 2017 18:21:33 GMT
Mass Effect @masseffect Tomorrow you'll get your first look at exploration in Mass Effect: Andromeda. Science officer should get involved in exploring, right? It's going to be a gameplay video like the combat ones they did the last couple weeks, so at most we may see her in a brief scene. |
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Post by Mihura on Mar 2, 2017 18:54:15 GMT
If Suvi and Gil are both gay and they're the only Tempest crewmembers we get no info on before release it will be a pretty bad look. Actually that is probably going to happen... which makes me extremely disappointed after Dragon Age: Inquisition. I mean if all the companions were bi and only the NPCs were gay/straight/lesbian, it would be fine but that is never gonna to happen again. I am probably going to wait for GOTY editions of their games after ME:A, like I do with all the others. Also I do not think they can deal very well with this part of their fandom, it sadness me because bioware had always a big part of my heart for trying to be more inclusive and more open even with mistakes. Ah well, it is still going to be a good game just a little shitty on the diverse companions side. |
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Post by notshauna on Mar 2, 2017 19:16:20 GMT
It's going to be a gameplay video like the combat ones they did the last couple weeks, so at most we may see her in a brief scene. Hell, it'd be easy to include both of them, either in this one or the final initiative briefing, which would kind of excuse the silence (much like how they didn't talk about Jaal until recently). |
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Post by Crim on Mar 2, 2017 19:19:55 GMT
If Suvi and Gil are both gay and they're the only Tempest crewmembers we get no info on before release it will be a pretty bad look. Actually that is probably going to happen... which makes me extremely disappointed after Dragon Age: Inquisition. I mean if all the companions were bi and only the NPCs were gay/straight/lesbian, it would be fine but that is never gonna to happen again. I am probably going to wait for GOTY editions of their games after ME:A, like I do with all the others. Also I do not think they can deal very well with this part of their fandom, it sadness me because bioware had always a big part of my heart for trying to be more inclusive and more open even with mistakes. Ah well, it is still going to be a good game just a little shitty on the diverse companions side. The ME team and the DA team are really different and it's showing bigtime here. Why tho, why won't they show Gil and Suvi properly? They've shown Lexi and Kallo, why won't they show these two? Why all the secrecy? What's one bloody proper screenshot gonna hurt? How is this spoilers??? Anyway, gimme all your spoilers early access players.  |
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Post by Mihura on Mar 2, 2017 19:40:47 GMT
Actually that is probably going to happen... which makes me extremely disappointed after Dragon Age: Inquisition. I mean if all the companions were bi and only the NPCs were gay/straight/lesbian, it would be fine but that is never gonna to happen again. I am probably going to wait for GOTY editions of their games after ME:A, like I do with all the others. Also I do not think they can deal very well with this part of their fandom, it sadness me because bioware had always a big part of my heart for trying to be more inclusive and more open even with mistakes. Ah well, it is still going to be a good game just a little shitty on the diverse companions side. Anyway, gimme all your spoilers early access players. I would say spacing their information but with only two weeks till the 16th, it makes little sense. If anything MP should be the focus now but not even that happened. I think they had some direct questions about having gay companions and npc, which they said to understand the fandom fear but did not really elaborated on it. We know at least there is indeed a lesbian character? who, where and why are the questions really. I cannot even get hype with the companions and romances at this point, speculating with the leaks and dev making holes is just not fun. |
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Post by Crim on Mar 2, 2017 19:49:38 GMT
The ME team and the DA team are really different and it's showing bigtime here. Why tho, why won't they show Gil and Suvi properly? They've shown Lexi and Kallo, why won't they show these two? Why all the secrecy? What's one bloody proper screenshot gonna hurt? How is this spoilers???Anyway, gimme all your spoilers early access players. I would say spacing their information but with only two weeks till the 16th, it makes little sense. If anything MP should be the focus now but not even that happened. I think they had some direct questions about having gay companions and npc, which they said to understand the fandom fear but did not really elaborated on it. We know at least there is indeed a lesbian character? who, where and why are the questions really. I cannot even get hype with the companions and romances at this point, speculating with the leaks and dev making holes is just not fun. For all we know, this blurry pic we have might not even be Suvi.  |
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Post by Mihura on Mar 2, 2017 20:00:41 GMT
I would say spacing their information but with only two weeks till the 16th, it makes little sense. If anything MP should be the focus now but not even that happened. I think they had some direct questions about having gay companions and npc, which they said to understand the fandom fear but did not really elaborated on it. We know at least there is indeed a lesbian character? who, where and why are the questions really. I cannot even get hype with the companions and romances at this point, speculating with the leaks and dev making holes is just not fun. For all we know, this blurry pic we have might not even be Suvi. Well we know there was a redhead with short hair in one of the Scott videos, and they seem to put sneaky NPCs and companions on those. It is probably her. Also if she is the lesbian romance I hope it is a detail face and not something like Traynor. |
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Post by Crim on Mar 2, 2017 20:10:58 GMT
For all we know, this blurry pic we have might not even be Suvi. Well we know there was a redhead with short hair in one of the Scott videos, and they seem to put sneaky NPCs and companions on those. It is probably her. Also if she is the lesbian romance I hope it is a detail face and not something like Traynor. Ugh, the Traynor romance...  |
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Hopefully, Suvi's the woman in the screenshot.
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Lemme get hyped for Suvi...
