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Post by grallon on Aug 12, 2016 0:10:13 GMT
So... during a lull between DAI's PTs I bought ME-1, seeing as how so many of you were fanatically attached to these characters. I played until New Eden(?), the first mission, when I got killed by a geth. At which point I uninstalled the whole thing; I loathe shooters and my eye-hand coordination is terrible anyway.
However since then, and especially since the "Announcement", over at BSN Prime, I've watched the movies made out of the ME1 & 2 cutscenes, as well as the endings from the Ext cut of ME3, and Shepard' story has grown on me; plus the score is phenomenal. I want into that story but I really *dislike* shooters (which is ironic considering most of my inquisitors are archers).
I guess my question is, how can I enjoy the ME storyline despite the shooting bit?
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Post by dalinne on Aug 12, 2016 0:21:12 GMT
At first, I didn't like the shooter aspects, I initially played the game because of the storyline so yes, you can enjoy the story (put the minimal difficulty on it). However, right now I'm the biggest fan of the shooting thing, it's pretty relaxing (and I tell you because my playthroughs are in Insanity mode so yes, the shooter can grow on you too
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 0:37:24 GMT
Keep the game on causal and have targeting help at its highest. You still have to shoot but it won't be hard or annoying. I am not a shooter person myself but with ME it became as easy as breathing once I got into a rhythm. Also if you choose to be a biotoic you can use those powers instead of your gun and let your comrades do the shooting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 0:41:31 GMT
What dalinne and Lady Amell said ... play on the lowest level. It allows you to focus on the story and ignore the combat to a large extent. Early on in ME, your Shepard is a bit fragile, but you get better armor and weapons over time, so combat becomes fairly easy.
When you import your character from ME into ME2, you are starting out at something other than the most fragile Shepard ... and again, upgrades will make Shep even more sturdy.
Same for ME3. ME is the only one where (at least for your first play, with your first character) you have to play at your most fragile. But it doesn't last long. And learning will take place. It will become second nature as the game progresses through that first run. Then, if you go back for a new character in ME, it won't seem so bad being level 1.
Frankly, after playing MP, SP Insanity is somewhere between Bronze and Silver MP and is really not too tough. But you don't have to go there. Just stay at the lowest level and focus on the story. In my first runs, in ME, ME2 and ME3, that's what I did. Then raised the difficulty level on subsequent runs. But for me, the story was always what brought me there.
OBTW, the highest difficulty setting on ME is not much fun nor much of a challenge ... it's just tedious. After scoring the achievement, I played all subsequent runs on the next level lower. ME2 and ME3 are not that way ... they make the higher difficulties more challenging ... but not tedious. Just my opinion, YMMV.
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Post by grallon on Aug 14, 2016 2:39:49 GMT
What dalinne and Lady Amell said ... play on the lowest level. It allows you to focus on the story and ignore the combat to a large extent. Early on in ME, your Shepard is a bit fragile, but you get better armor and weapons over time, so combat becomes fairly easy. When you import your character from ME into ME2, you are starting out at something other than the most fragile Shepard ... and again, upgrades will make Shep even more sturdy. Same for ME3. ME is the only one where (at least for your first play, with your first character) you have to play at your most fragile. But it doesn't last long. And learning will take place. It will become second nature as the game progresses through that first run. Then, if you go back for a new character in ME, it won't seem so bad being level 1. Frankly, after playing MP, SP Insanity is somewhere between Bronze and Silver MP and is really not too tough. But you don't have to go there. Just stay at the lowest level and focus on the story. In my first runs, in ME, ME2 and ME3, that's what I did. Then raised the difficulty level on subsequent runs. But for me, the story was always what brought me there. OBTW, the highest difficulty setting on ME is not much fun nor much of a challenge ... it's just tedious. After scoring the achievement, I played all subsequent runs on the next level lower. ME2 and ME3 are not that way ... they make the higher difficulties more challenging ... but not tedious. Just my opinion, YMMV. I re-downloaded & reinstalled the game, tried what was suggested above, by yourself and others... and still found the whole thing dull. That is strange since I can replay Inquisition without problem, no matter how much tedium there is to swallow each time. I can't pinpoint what it is! I do find the overarching theme of a civilization threatened by overwhelming odds compelling but... I don't know... Granted the game(s) is(are) about soldiers in a time of war (which I greatly enjoyed with the latest iteration of Galactica) yet it seems nothing is happening in that universe (between cut-scenes) other than bang-bang missions! And Shepard... He is your standard true-blue, one-dimensional hero, which makes it difficult to identify with. As a matter of fact he reminded me of Geralt of Rivia; same monotone/wooden emotional delivery. *sigh* Perhaps this just isn't the type of game for me. But the soundtrack still is really awesome!
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Post by vanilka on Aug 14, 2016 13:54:22 GMT
As others suggested above, it might help to play on the lowest difficulty so you can breeze through missions, choose a class that has a lot of powers instead of guns (for example, Sentinel), make another character your tank then. You don't have to land on every single planet, so Therum, Noveria, Feros, Virmire and Ilos (and the Citadel) are the only places you have to go to and that actually have something interesting going on. Also, if you don't like male Shepard's delivery, try female Shepard, or vice versa, if that's okay with you. I think both of the voice actors are good and have their own pros and cons, but femShep really does it for me, personally. The dialogue options vary among nice, neutral/sassy, and blunt/harsh, so it's not unlike DAI's dialogue, in my opinion. (I do find DAI superior in this department, although lacking on more evil options, but it is similar, imo.) While it's true there may not be many options to customise Shepard, you still have the background and psych profile of your choice that influence your character and varied dialogue choices, so there's some space for roleplay. The difference is that you already are an experienced soldier.
You could also try playing ME2 for a bit, if you have it, to see if it gets any better for you and whether it's worth it to play through the first game then if you don't like it that much.
When I started playing ME1, I wasn't exactly crazy about it, either. And that comes from a person that likes shooters. (Other than realistic ones, anyway.) I think the start is a bit awkward and frustrating, when you're still learning the game (and ME1 gameplay mechanics are rather clunky, but that gets better in the following games). It also feels a bit slow at first. The dialogue is scarcer than in DA games, even with the companions and love interests, which was a surprise for me picking it up after DAO and DAII, but there's still enough, I think. My love for this game was a slow burning one. At first I thought it was okay, at times even a bit meh, then I found myself more interested and immersed in the world, then I got caught up in the events and characters, and somehow when I finished ME1 I realised I really loved it and Shepard was one of my favourite video game protags (that was still mine enough) yet. So it definitely wasn't love at the first sight for me, either.
If you like games that are heavier on story and characters, then I think it would be a damn shame to miss out on ME. But if you really can't get through the gameplay no matter what, then I guess it can't be helped.
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Post by natureguy85 on Aug 15, 2016 21:25:04 GMT
Your thoughts on Shepard, and Gerealt, for that matter, are quite correct. They are defined characters so your roleplay is more limited than in Dragon Age Origins, yet they aren't that interesting and don't seem to change over the course of the story.
It's hard to tell you how to enjoy the story because after the first game, the story sucks and it's the characters who carry the series. As others have said, play on easy and do the main missions. There are plenty of interesting side missions, but if you don't like the gameplay you won't like constant trades of 10-20 minutes of gameplay for a few minutes of story. Definitely do Garrus' mission regarding Dr. Saleon though.
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Post by fraggle on Aug 16, 2016 7:09:47 GMT
I liked ME1 at first, but only later have I grown to love the series, now it's my favourite gaming experience, including ME1. The story makes up for the clunky gameplay in ME1, it gets way better from ME2 on You could try to pause to make aiming a lot easier. You will face a lot of geth, so you could pick the Engineer class, who can hack them so they fight for you (it's hilarious and one of my favourite talents). Engineer also has Neural Shock, which makes organic enemies pretty easy. Sentinel is a good alternative class for Neural Shock as well and has biotic abilities, which are a lot of fun. I'm not gonna lie, you will still have to shoot a lot, but on the lowest difficulty, this should not be too much of a problem. Also fully level up a weapon, gun preferably! I have found out that this results in a lot of damage In ME2 and 3 you can mostly get through without having to use a gun, if you don't play Soldier. If you absolutely don't like it then probably there's no way around but to avoid at least ME1. There's plenty of playthroughs on Youtube if you're only interested in the story.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 19, 2016 6:48:07 GMT
If it's shooting that's bothering you, using the power wheel to freeze and correct your aim without having to die will vastly cut the combat down.
-Camp out at doorways and other chokepoints too so you don't have to take fire. -Abuse biotics to throw enemies off ledges. -Strafing while shooting enemies who have slow moving missiles can be useful when you have sufficient shields and armor.
Hang in there. Mass Effect was the very first video game I played so I was easily frustrated until my brother walked me through it.
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Post by grallon on Aug 20, 2016 1:00:47 GMT
Last night I downloaded the ME2 demo and tried it. I found I could live through the awful shooting bamboozle thanks to the streamlined mechanics - only to discover, after getting the full game, that contrary to Dragon Age, I couldn't set the past events in some sort of Keep to import into the second game. And this means I'm stuck with Ashley Further, this also means that if I want sexy Kaidan at my side, I will have to go through the slog of playing the 1st chapter. *sigh* Hmmm, there must be console commands that lets you kill everyone and win any given fight immediately?
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Post by natureguy85 on Aug 20, 2016 5:15:57 GMT
Get a save editor.
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Post by fraggle on Aug 20, 2016 7:47:46 GMT
Last night I downloaded the ME2 demo and tried it. I found I could live through the awful shooting bamboozle thanks to the streamlined mechanics - only to discover, after getting the full game, that contrary to Dragon Age, I couldn't set the past events in some sort of Keep to import into the second game. And this means I'm stuck with Ashley Further, this also means that if I want sexy Kaidan at my side, I will have to go through the slog of playing the 1st chapter. *sigh* Hmmm, there must be console commands that lets you kill everyone and win any given fight immediately? There's a comic for starters of ME2, initially only PS3, but according to the wiki it's also available for XBox and PC. Please find more details here: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect:_GenesisIt's $3,99 for XBox and 320 BW Points for PC. Of course, like natureguy85 mentioned, a save editor works as well
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Post by grallon on Aug 22, 2016 16:26:05 GMT
After a lot of hooplas with Gibbed to get Kaidan imported in my 1st male shep game (who thought it was a good idea to sex gate this?) I finally dived right in and so far I'm enjoying it a great deal more than ME1. I'll even admit I'm starting to enjoy the shooting part. As a matter of fact I was late for work this morning after playing until 5:30 AM Random thoughts so far: - disappointed Kaidan appears only in the Horizon mission and won't join me; - I died more time (in lava pits mostly) flying that god awful contraption that replaces the mako than I did being shot, I swear it's like riding a raging bull; - I'd enjoy mining more if no. 6 would just shut up about probes being deployed; - the characters are really engaging - love Mordin above all; - Shepard on the other hand is a little too... bland. I wish there was a mission or something tied to his background (spacer, colonist, etc). The only time (so far) I felt some powerful emotions is when he visited, alone, the crash site of the first Normandy; the whole sequence was creepy as hell - the man back from death looking for the dog tags of his dead shipmates. I found a face I liked at FoG and adapted it - turned out pretty well I think. I'll post a pic when I get home.
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Post by grallon on Aug 25, 2016 2:15:44 GMT
And here he is: 38 hours... not exactly epic is it? Mind you I was playing on Casual - without any major DLCs. Zaveed, Legion & half the crew died at the end - oh and Jack tried to dig for romance but He's an Alenko's man.
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Post by fraggle on Aug 25, 2016 7:00:44 GMT
38 hours... not exactly epic is it? Mind you I was playing on Casual - without any major DLCs. Zaveed, Legion & half the crew died at the end - oh and Jack tried to dig for romance but He's an Alenko's man. Very nice Shepard! Yeah, you can't be too friendly with the crew, they all want to get in your pants that way You'll have a great time ahead with Mr. Alenko And about the time, each ME can be either very short or very long, depending on how much you do. My 2nd ME2 attempt was over 80 hours (too... many... side missions). Now it's around 35-40 hours for me without DLCs.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 27, 2016 14:48:23 GMT
So... during a lull between DAI's PTs I bought ME-1, seeing as how so many of you were fanatically attached to these characters. I played until New Eden(?), the first mission, when I got killed by a geth. At which point I uninstalled the whole thing; I loathe shooters and my eye-hand coordination is terrible anyway. However since then, and especially since the "Announcement", over at BSN Prime, I've watched the movies made out of the ME1 & 2 cutscenes, as well as the endings from the Ext cut of ME3, and Shepard' story has grown on me; plus the score is phenomenal. I want into that story but I really *dislike* shooters (which is ironic considering most of my inquisitors are archers). I guess my question is, how can I enjoy the ME storyline despite the shooting bit? If you're that concerned about dying, use a console command to give you super armor and a super gun. It makes you nearly invulnerable in fights and the weapon will kill anything with pretty much just one shot. That will allow you to enjoy the really awesome storyline but not worry about the fighting. However, save frequently anyway. ME1 was horrible with the autosaves. There are certain ways you can die regardless of the special armor and gun (the Mako is still very much vulnerable) and replaying certain areas repeatedly probably won't make you happy.
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Post by grallon on Aug 27, 2016 22:55:48 GMT
I don't know how many times Ive been killed trying to save Aria in Afterlife now (Omega DLC)...
All this running around blind with no pause, no zoom out to check the layout of the place is stressing me out.
Earlier today I ran into the same problem on Tutchanka trying to get to the Shroud; the Reaper kept frying me. So I reloaded a previous save and started some other mission.
This 3rd installment is definitely more geared toward combat. And don't get me started on the horrible mission management.
So far I greatly preferred M2.
EDIT: Oh and all this is on casual.... I suck at fidgety console games ported on PC.
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Post by Shinobu on Aug 29, 2016 3:30:04 GMT
You probably don't want to hear this, but I suggest going back and starting the trilogy over now that you've finished 2 but before you've finished 3. The galaxy is 100X richer with an import save and it will definitely increase your enjoyment of ME2 (hard as that might be to believe) because you will have a much better understanding of the characters and galaxy. I played ME2 first and thought "this is cool, who is this dino-cat who apparently is my friend? Who are these Cerberus guys -- apparently I don't like them?" The second time I almost cried with joy at seeing Garrus again because I was working for those filthy terrorist Cerberus bastards and I needed a friend I could trust. Not to mention running into all the NPCs who referenced things my Shepard had done in the first game.
If that isn't enough incentive, some of the problems in ME3 can only be solved optimally if you chose the correct options in ME1. Also, you really want to have Wrex (and Conrad) in ME3.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 29, 2016 7:01:26 GMT
What class are you? Perhaps we can help make missions go faster depending on which skills you have. Biotic and tech skills are great for avoiding aiming with a gun. Freeing Aria is tricky. Usually requires running ahead so that everyone is trailing behind you until you can explode the nodes around her after shutting the generators down.
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Post by grallon on Aug 29, 2016 10:54:53 GMT
What class are you? Perhaps we can help make missions go faster depending on which skills you have. Biotic and tech skills are great for avoiding aiming with a gun. Freeing Aria is tricky. Usually requires running ahead so that everyone is trailing behind you until you can explode the nodes around her after shutting the generators down. I managed to finish Omega and Rannoch. My Shepard is an infiltrator, because of the sniping rifle - which is the closest thing to the Skyrim crossbow or the DAI greatbow I used to enjoy in those games. In any case I'm doing the Citadel DLC now - Anderson's apartment and all the notes for his biography were quite a nice touch - almost as if they were a message to Shepard; I can see why he came to see A. as a father figure. I fully intend to restart with the first chapter, now that I'm used to the pace of this gaming genre. I still don't like the rts mechanics but I can manage. But first I'll install the Mehem mod to finish the game and avoid the nonsense of the holo child.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 29, 2016 11:35:58 GMT
Okey dokey, you've got some advantages and disadvantages. In ME1, you can max out your pistol skills and have a near constant marksman and you've got tech skills which will help immensely. I think you've got hacking so that'll make geth a walk in the park since they'll do your work for you. Take Liara everywhere and she'll take care of those who bullrush you. Since shooting is a pain, don't worry so much about your sniping skills and work on your tech, armor, etc. There's a glitch technique too you can exploit to equip heavy armor. You're lucky in that you have fortification instead of barrier for rachni acid so boost that as well. Most everything doesn't really need killing and you can just drive right past with the mako sequences (except Virmire's gates). Just keep driving smoothly without stopping and they'll never whittle your shields down too far. ME2 will help you with your cloaking but make sure you've got incinerate on hand for its autotargeting. Target explosives next to enemies and use the power wheel to line up shots with enemy heads. ME2 heavily favors tech so that's a point in your favor. If you can, take energy drain as a two in one defense and debuff ability. The slow motion scope will hopefully help. You can skip some fights in certain locations too like Horizon where you potshot two scions if you zoom through a sniping scope before entering the courtyard and running to Rael'Zorah's corpse just before the last fight in Tali's mission. ME3 in some ways is much easier on combat because you'll have so many broken abilities. Cooldown bypass with cloak is one, weapons choice is another. If you need help in specific missions, we can try to walk you through it. Krysae's explosive shots will let you cheese your way through.
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Post by grallon on Sept 1, 2016 20:41:35 GMT
Is there a cheat code to bypass those absurdly annoying decryption locks in ME1? I'm on that planet where you have to deactivate a probe booby trapped with a nuke and I get fried all the time. Can't even use medigel on it.
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Post by opuspace on Sept 1, 2016 23:25:15 GMT
You're out of omni-gel? Hmm, I don't know anything about how to mod it, usually I have to save just before attempting decryption. Thing is with Decryption is that it's a game of "Simon says", so quick reflexes are all you need. I've had to put the controller on a table to free up my hand's speed. All you need to do is work on your reaction time and follow where the buttons light up. I hope that's what you were looking at.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 2, 2016 2:57:42 GMT
For the record, I was never a fan of shooters. Found them a bit boring. Yet, I fell in love with ME. It's my all-time favorite game.. I've spent a lot of time playing the trilogy and nothing else has fully attracted my attention. Sometimes I'll go over to DA:I for a bit but them I'm back to ME.
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Post by grallon on Sept 2, 2016 12:14:37 GMT
You're out of omni-gel? Hmm, I don't know anything about how to mod it, usually I have to save just before attempting decryption. Thing is with Decryption is that it's a game of "Simon says", so quick reflexes are all you need. I've had to put the controller on a table to free up my hand's speed. All you need to do is work on your reaction time and follow where the buttons light up. I hope that's what you were looking at. And quick reflexes is just what I don't have.
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