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Post by jrpN7 on Feb 19, 2017 10:30:54 GMT
We know that Bioware has plans for Mass Effect beyond Andromeda and that they're not done with the francise. I personally have many ideas about where this could lead. Could we possibly and eventually see the Milky Way species in Andromeda reconnecting with Earth and the Milky Way galaxy? If so, I would assume they bring the tech and culture of the Andromeda species back to the Milky Way. So, what would that mean? An invention to bridge the massive expanse between the two galaxies perhaps for easier travel? What would power this invention? If we were to reconnect to the Milky Way and all the homeworlds: Earth, Thessia, Palaven, Dekunna, Sur'kesh etc., how do you think the Milky Way will have been shaped assuming this will be centuries after the Reaper War? Would the Milky Way have advanced beyond recognition? Would new species have been uplifted like the Raloi? Would the Council have been eroded or become a more firm, powerful seat of government? Maybe even totalitarian (just throwing ideas out there)? If we don't ever reconnect to the Milky way, will humans, turians, asari etc. in Andromeda evolve differently than those back in the Milky Way physically, culturally and morally? As time goes on, will the Milky Way species in Andromeda forget where they came from as they integrate into the vastness of Andromeda? Thanks for reading and post your thoughts below!!
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 19, 2017 10:56:42 GMT
I think the biggest thing to consider when talking about whether we should go back or not is what will we expect to see when we get there? I'm guessing its going to be what? 1200 years at least round trip so I would think that because the reapers are gone technology could advance at an alarming rate in the MW. That depends on if they find more prothean shit, but all the same, with all those species working together they could really up the ante from a technology standpoint.
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Post by Salty Drell on Feb 19, 2017 12:51:05 GMT
I'm thinking a good way to do this is before the Andromeda Initiative left they set up one entangled particle somewhere in the Milky Way and after you finish the story of Andromeda the people on the Nexus say they've finished setting up the other entangled particle, You turn communications on, ask if anyone's there....and Liara responds. The picture would be blue and low quality so you can't tell if she's 'synthesized' or not so BioWare still doesn't have to pick a canon ending. The quantum entanglement allows for instant communication no matter the distance (used by Illusive Man and Admiral Hackett) and Liara would only be like a little over 700? I think that's a way of doing it without breaking logic, and without choosing a canon ending.
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Post by Urban Ghost on Feb 19, 2017 14:20:47 GMT
I'm thinking a good way to do this is before the Andromeda Initiative left they set up one entangled particle somewhere in the Milky Way and after you finish the story of Andromeda the people on the Nexus say they've finished setting up the other entangled particle, You turn communications on, ask if anyone's there....and Liara responds. The picture would be blue and low quality so you can't tell if she's 'synthesized' or not so BioWare still doesn't have to pick a canon ending. The quantum entanglement allows for instant communication no matter the distance (used by Illusive Man and Admiral Hackett) and Liara would only be like a little over 700? I think that's a way of doing it without breaking logic, and without choosing a canon ending. But Liara can die in ME3 right? Wouldn't that canonize an ending?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 19, 2017 14:28:32 GMT
tbh it depends on whether they come up with a way to handle all the possible endings. If they can't then they can just keep telling stories in Andromeda if they can then I don't see any reasons why not if it's done well. Personally I don't mind either way but if they are to do it then it needs to be done right and in such a way to cover all the possible outcomes. Which if they choose to do it it won't be an easy task.
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Post by Salty Drell on Feb 19, 2017 14:28:58 GMT
But Liara can die in ME3 right? Wouldn't that canonize an ending? Wait when can Liara die in ME3? if you mean when you take her with you on the final run to the beam, she only dies if you haven't got the extended cut installed.
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Post by Urban Ghost on Feb 19, 2017 14:32:03 GMT
I think she can still die if you have a low EMS rating. But still, she can die. If they put in Liara, that would canonize a ending where she didn't.
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Post by Salty Drell on Feb 19, 2017 14:57:22 GMT
I think she can still die if you have a low EMS rating. But still, she can die. If they put in Liara, that would canonize a ending where she didn't. To be honest, if we reconnect with the Milky Way I think they should just canonize the synthesis ending.
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Post by derrame on Feb 19, 2017 15:07:47 GMT
no, of course not th trilogy's story ended (in an awful way) and andromeda is a new beginning, in new galaxy new story, new characers, new adventure
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Post by I'm Not Dead Just Yet on Feb 19, 2017 15:10:01 GMT
I'm thinking a good way to do this is before the Andromeda Initiative left they set up one entangled particle somewhere in the Milky Way and after you finish the story of Andromeda the people on the Nexus say they've finished setting up the other entangled particle, You turn communications on, ask if anyone's there....and Liara responds. The picture would be blue and low quality so you can't tell if she's 'synthesized' or not so BioWare still doesn't have to pick a canon ending. The quantum entanglement allows for instant communication no matter the distance (used by Illusive Man and Admiral Hackett) and Liara would only be like a little over 700? I think that's a way of doing it without breaking logic, and without choosing a canon ending. Damn, I forgot about that quantum entanglement stuff. I was wondering how the AI could possible reestablish contact with the Milky Way galaxy. Even with ftl technology it would still take a lifetime just to send one message, forget about getting a reply. But QE... maybe they have it installed in their ship before they left for Andromeda and the other particle is in some top security base? The theory is nice, but I still think they shouldn't do it. You can't canonize ME3's ending without ruining it for everyone. It's better just to leave it behind and keep it in Andromeda.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 19, 2017 15:11:07 GMT
But Liara can die in ME3 right? Wouldn't that canonize an ending? Yes she can. Why would it canonize an ending? Wait when can Liara die in ME3? if you mean when you take her with you on the final run to the beam, she only dies if you haven't got the extended cut installed. She still dies even with the extended cut installed if ems is low enough
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 19, 2017 15:18:58 GMT
We know that Bioware has plans for Mass Effect beyond Andromeda and that they're not done with the francise.If we were to reconnect to the Milky Way and all the homeworlds: Earth, Thessia, Palaven, Dekunna, Sur'kesh etc., how do you think the Milky Way will have been shaped assuming this will be centuries after the Reaper War? Would the Milky Way have advanced beyond recognition? Would new species have been uplifted like the Raloi? Would the Council have been eroded or become a more firm, powerful seat of government? Maybe even totalitarian (just throwing ideas out there)? If we don't ever reconnect to the Milky way, will humans, turians, asari etc. in Andromeda evolve differently than those back in the Milky Way physically, culturally and morally? As time goes on, will the Milky Way species in Andromeda forget where they came from as they integrate into the vastness of Andromeda? Do we? They've said they are focusing exclusively on Andromeda 1 but have designed the story framework in such a way that there's potential for sequels of variying sort, but Mac looks upon Andromeda as something that would be a "saga" rather than a trilogy if they should decide to continue it. Fans need to lay down expectations that there is some master plan for Andromeda beyond what is currently in development. But alas, some people still believe everything they saw in the trilogy was planned from the start. Secondly, if we connect to the Milky Way it's the ending of Andromeda and a retelling of the ending of ME3. Why would anyone want this? You realize we're going to Andromeda from a story-design-POV because the ending made continuation impossible, right? Right?
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 19, 2017 15:30:05 GMT
I think she can still die if you have a low EMS rating. But still, she can die. If they put in Liara, that would canonize a ending where she didn't. To be honest, if we reconnect with the Milky Way I think they should just canonize the synthesis ending. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the least popular ending, putting aside that it's probably the one ending the fewest players could even get, considering it has the highest requirements. If they were going to bother, I don't think they'd touch synthesis with a ten foot pole. In any case, I'm fairly convinced that the old trilogy is the last we'll ever see of the Milky Way.
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Post by xassantex on Feb 19, 2017 15:43:03 GMT
retcon as captain Janeway would say " I considered it once, but it seemed too risky."
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 19, 2017 16:57:15 GMT
But Liara can die in ME3 right? Wouldn't that canonize an ending? Yes she can. Why would it canonize an ending? It would canonize the Liara not dying part, anyway, and probably decanonize Refuse too. Once we start saying that some Shepards didn't make the future we're playing in, I think we should just go all the way to full canonization of a particular Shepard's choices. I don't really care which final world-state gets picked.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 19, 2017 17:06:51 GMT
How would it canonize the t'soni not dying part?
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Feb 19, 2017 17:20:47 GMT
Yes. I liked the ending of the trilogy, and would like the end of the Andromeda trilogy to link back to the Milky Way. This is not a /s post, I truly like the way the Trilogy ended - after all, Shep was Indoctrinated....
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 19, 2017 17:33:33 GMT
Yes. I liked the ending of the trilogy, and would like the end of the Andromeda trilogy to link back to the Milky Way. This is not a /s post, I truly like the way the Trilogy ended - after all, Shep was Indoctrinated.... Damn, I can honestly say this is like the first thing that has made me want to finish the trilogy in some time (the spoilered bit).
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Post by Urban Ghost on Feb 19, 2017 17:40:28 GMT
How would it canonize the t'soni not dying part? Because if they showed Liara that would mean an ending where she died didn't happen, which makes her not dying canon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 17:42:33 GMT
I wouldn't be opposed to it but maybe after 3 or 4 games in Andromeda.
I'd imagine something like 1.000 years passed since the AI reached Andromeda and we managed to build a great civilization there. People now tell stories about the ancient galaxy we came from and lost contact. Humanity tell the story of Earth like if it was a mythical place. An expedition is finally made to be sent back in the Milky Way. They reached the old galaxy but find that something is off, none is to be seen ruins and mysteries everywhere. Take charge of the expedition as the Human pathfinder in the quest to reach the legendary planet of Earth, while uncover the secret of our ancient roots. I'd love something like that.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 19, 2017 17:45:54 GMT
Because if they showed Liara that would mean an ending where she died didn't happen, which makes her not dying canon. If doesn't mean they will.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 19, 2017 17:48:38 GMT
I swear some people just play these games with their head under their arm. "Woah, the story was nothing but a dream? Fucking... epiiic!" Fans who fall for everything that has "lore" behind it.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 19, 2017 18:06:42 GMT
I wouldn't care as much in future games. This may be the only game we play as Ryder btw. I would want it in this game but in a way that doesn't force the player to engage the Original Trilogy's story. There will already be plenty of references to the MW that happened before Mass Effect 3, but I think they should account for the endings if you choose that option. Scenarios: -At the beginning of the game, we are asked to choose one of the 4 endings (each with a brief discussion) or the 5th option of leaving the Milky Way Galaxy behind completely. For those who chose one the four endings, we either use a quantum entanglement to communicate with the Milky Way Galaxy. Liara, if alive would make sense as the shadow broker or it could be a VI set to provide updates. They could just set it up as updates sent to Nexus that we get access to as Pathfinders. Updates can just include the reaper invasion and then the outcome based on your choice. (Reapers destroyed, Synthesis, Reapers as Allies [this could be a cool to have shepard/reaper intercept and send you a message instead], Harvesting complete). That should be the most we get at this point. -The other possibility of communication could be done through a side mission where we learn of the invasion and our choice in ME3 through highly advanced Remnant Technology.
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Post by Psychevore on Feb 19, 2017 18:10:48 GMT
Yes.
Only to find it controlled and run over by AI.
Then you go back to Andromeda in the next game and find the same thing has happened to Andromeda.
The Catalyst was right all along.
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Post by fiannawolf on Feb 19, 2017 18:11:07 GMT
retcon as captain Janeway would say " I considered it once, but it seemed too risky." They probably would have to soft reboot or retcon somethings to reconnect to the MWG. The trilogy made that a rather big glaring point. For now, they probably should concentrate on Anderomeda things. And then bring in the MWG later on.
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