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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 19, 2017 18:15:06 GMT
I'd love to see another mobile game like Infiltrator featuring a pre-ME3 event in the milky way but with an actual good story and writing, but I don't want the main series to ever go back. We have the trilogy for that and wasting a 2-5 year dev cycle from BioWare on making a prequel would be a waste rather than going forward where there's more excitement because we're looking ahead just as we used to before ME3 locked down the overarching story.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 19, 2017 18:16:12 GMT
I wouldn't be opposed to it but maybe after 3 or 4 games in Andromeda. I'd imagine something like 1.000 years passed since the AI reached Andromeda and we managed to build a great civilization there. People now tell stories about the ancient galaxy we came from and lost contact. Humanity tell the story of Earth like if it was a mythical place. An expedition is finally made to be sent back in the Milky Way. They reached the old galaxy but find that something is off, none is to be seen ruins and mysteries everywhere. Take charge of the expedition as the Human pathfinder in the quest to reach the legendary planet of Earth, while uncover the secret of our ancient roots. I'd love something like that. I wouldn;t care about the events of ME3 after 3 or 4 games. That would be more than a decade from now where in some cases people playing this may not be around. Just have the 4 choices at the beginning of the game so that we can eventually tie into the Milky Way even if briefly. Plus the devs said The Ryder's full story Arc will be in this game with no planned sequels for them.
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Post by DoomsdayDevice on Feb 19, 2017 18:45:05 GMT
To be honest, if we reconnect with the Milky Way I think they should just canonize the synthesis ending. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the least popular ending, putting aside that it's probably the one ending the fewest players could even get, considering it has the highest requirements. If they were going to bother, I don't think they'd touch synthesis with a ten foot pole. In any case, I'm fairly convinced that the old trilogy is the last we'll ever see of the Milky Way. No, the destroy ending where Shepard survives still has the highest requirement, even though they lowered it significantly with Extended Cut. Synthesis 2800, Shepard survives Destroy ending 3100. Which, by the way, used to be 4000 if you saved Anderson and 5000 if you didn't save Anderson, which is almost double the requirement for Synthesis.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 19, 2017 18:48:35 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if this was the least popular ending, putting aside that it's probably the one ending the fewest players could even get, considering it has the highest requirements. If they were going to bother, I don't think they'd touch synthesis with a ten foot pole. In any case, I'm fairly convinced that the old trilogy is the last we'll ever see of the Milky Way. No, the destroy ending where Shepard survives still has the highest requirement, even though they lowered it significantly with Extended Cut. Synthesis 2800, Shepard survives Destroy ending 3100. Which, by the way, used to be 4000 if you saved Anderson and 5000 if you didn't save Anderson, which is almost double the requirement for Synthesis. I stand corrected. Even still, I think it's a fair bet that enough people dislike that ending, or at least are the most vocal about disliking it that would keep BioWare from ever going near it again. As for Shepard's fate, I suppose that part of it would be moot by the start of the Andromeda story, since Shepard and most major characters would be long gone by then.
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Post by kumazan on Feb 19, 2017 18:54:05 GMT
No, ME going back to the Milky Way makes as much sense as holding the next Olympics in Pripyat would. There's nothing good to find there.
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Post by glitch89 on Feb 19, 2017 19:08:39 GMT
I wouldn't mind it, but I think the ending of ME3 made that nearly impossible. It seems the writers/producers don't want to touch on the Milky Way galaxy story line anymore. I just hope that other Milky Way species show up in future installments, since the writers/produces said that they made it possible for that to happen(Something like that).
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Post by jpcab on Feb 19, 2017 19:15:25 GMT
If Mass Effect wants to be an epic saga has to have soul...and to have soul the past can not be forgotten.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 19:17:33 GMT
MW has been through enough and any story there that has a new protagonist will be constantly compared to Shepard's. Best to move on and start fresh so players can move on. Endings will have to be addressed and unless they want to retcon the story or canonize one ending which would make the fanbase even more upset, it's best to just move on to a new place with a new story that will hopefully be more organized and better constructed than the old than try and deal with the trilogy's mess.
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Post by jpcab on Feb 19, 2017 19:20:20 GMT
I do not think so. If that happens Mass Effect is just..another game. With no soul
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Post by guanxi on Feb 19, 2017 19:49:22 GMT
I'd love to see EA/BioWare team up with Tell-tale Games and give them the license to create original material from the original milky-way setting/source material (pre-ME3) in between major releases.
They could bring back some of the fantastic original cast and locations and use them as a backdrop to create original stories with new characters and put their own stamp on the franchise. They could cover big parts of the lore from the Morning War, Rachni Wars, Eden Prime, to the Skyllian Blitz or even Prothean times. They could use the comics and books as source material or re-visit the original cast members before the trilogy, e.g. I love to see Mordin and Kirrahe again during the second genophage, the Wrex and Aria story, Kaidan on Zump Zero, Joker during pilot school, Thane and Garrus doing Batman stuff, etc.
The thought of some of this coming to life in a Tell-tale game is quite frankly almost more exciting than Andromeda for me. I've got next to no interest in revisiting the milky way galaxy again if almost every character we care about is long dead.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 19, 2017 19:53:12 GMT
No, the destroy ending where Shepard survives still has the highest requirement, even though they lowered it significantly with Extended Cut. Synthesis 2800, Shepard survives Destroy ending 3100. Which, by the way, used to be 4000 if you saved Anderson and 5000 if you didn't save Anderson, which is almost double the requirement for Synthesis. To get synthesis, 2700 ems is needed with extended cut installed.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 19, 2017 20:08:47 GMT
People are going to have to get over ME3's ending eventually. It's not that hard to say hey, select one of the four endings to the reaper invasion when you start a new character. That ending will be cannon to your story going forward while in Andromeda.
I don't think an entire game will go back to the future Milky Way, but they can easily incorporate alternate universes or time traveling/altering. They did it in Star Trek and it worked out great. Plus black holes are fun way to play with space/time
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Post by DoomsdayDevice on Feb 19, 2017 20:17:55 GMT
No, the destroy ending where Shepard survives still has the highest requirement, even though they lowered it significantly with Extended Cut. Synthesis 2800, Shepard survives Destroy ending 3100. Which, by the way, used to be 4000 if you saved Anderson and 5000 if you didn't save Anderson, which is almost double the requirement for Synthesis. To get synthesis, 2700 ems is needed with extended cut installed. Thanks, even less then.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 19, 2017 20:24:34 GMT
No problem If interested, here's a lot more about ems folks may not know about
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Post by mjalpha on Feb 19, 2017 20:28:37 GMT
(I know, I know. Just had a lot to say.)
I definitely think the species from the MW will return home at some point (from BioWare's perspective), but i'm not sold on the idea that we will see this on screen at any point. Before that happens though the Milky Wayers would need to find a habitable planet and colonize it to a comfortable degree before they could even start to entertain this idea. I say that because they would need a guaranteed source of resources to replenish those that would be lost on a return trip that would take at least another 600 years to complete. On top of all this, they would need a good reason to return. They're not going to return out of plain curiosity. These reasons would either deal with new technology (doesn't actually need to be groundbreaking tech i.e. reaper/relay tech), or, in my opinion, to warn the others of another impending doom (perhaps they're trying to head off an extra nasty species from Andromeda that's looking to take their chances in the MW) headed their way. They may even return just to start another Andromeda Initiative type program to bring more Milky Wayers to Andromeda/Friendly Andromeda species to the MW. In terms of what I think the MW would be like upon the initiative's return, that's a tricky one. Assuming the previously dominant races are still around I think we'd see a MW more connected than ever being that the different species would understand that they are far stronger when working together. The Council would have likely expanded to include the majority, if not all of the space faring Milky Way species (Din Korlack's dream will have been recognized) for obvious diplomatic reasons the previous Councils missed. This new council would be made up of the known four as well as the Krogans, Quarians, Volus, Elcor, Hanar, and the Drell. It would also include, bear with me here, the Batarians (despite their low numbers) because despite their checkered past they are a completely capable race in terms of intelligence/tech. And even the Rachni, who would have to be represented by a willing Queen of course. The only races that I don't think would have a seat, but perhaps embassies, would be the Vorcha, Yahg and any pre-space flight species that made a few leaps and bounds during the 1200 year gap that we're estimating. Who knows though, perhaps during this gap in time maybe the Vorcha, and especially the Yahg, reached some social/philosophical epiphany that has seen them leave their ignorant/barbaric pasts behind and now they're relatively reasonable species overall. The Geth, i'm not so sure about. I'm not sure even after 1200 years that the council races would trust having them anywhere near the council or even an embassy honestly. There would probably be general correspondence occurring between the two sides, but that's likely as far as it would ever go unless BioWare decides that the Synthesis ending was concrete. Only in that case, I think, would they have a seat.
On the other hand if Andromeda ends up being the final destination of the initiative, then the Milky Wayers would evolve along with their new environments/homes. In the physical sense we know that significant evolutionary mutations/adaptations take hundreds of thousands/millions of years to develop. I would assume that the planet(s) that the initiative will likely colonize would be those very similar to the homeworlds back in the MW. With that being the case the physical changes would be very very slight if they're noticeable at all such as the slightly altered appearance of eyes/ears/nostrils etc. And depending on the gravity and climates of the new planets we'd see some changes in height and complexion. I wouldn't think we'd see any drastic changes beyond this being that the sapient species that we've seen from Andromeda so far are mostly bipedal and humanoid (so no extra arms/legs etc). Culturally and morally? Might as well give those a crack as well. I have a feeling the initiative's species will be more than willing to learn from and about the new species in Andromeda. Even so, they will want to keep their individual cultures in tact being that they will be the only representatives of their entire species in Andromeda. With that in mind they will only adopt/create new cultural aspects that are beneficial to them. These benefits of course will vary from race to race. For example, the Krogan and Asari may be on the same side, but they each look at life through completely different lenses and so their cultures will develop along those lines. Morally is where I see the least amount of change occurring. Say what you will, but I would say there exists certain moral constants that have to be accepted to guarantee the longevity of a given people. Those constants involve not killing, lying, stealing, discriminating etc. In other words being that the Initiative's species are the new kids on the block I don't think they'll be pulling any 180's in the moral sense if they don't want to be in constant conflict with their new neighbors.
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Post by Balsam Beige on Feb 19, 2017 20:41:59 GMT
People are going to have to get over ME3's ending eventually. It's not that hard to say hey, select one of the four endings to the reaper invasion when you start a new character. That ending will be cannon to your story going forward while in Andromeda. I don't think an entire game will go back to the future Milky Way, but they can easily incorporate alternate universes or time traveling/altering. They did it in Star Trek and it worked out great. Plus black holes are fun way to play with space/time No. Not happening.........ever. People can say it until they are blue in the face........will never make it so.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 19, 2017 20:46:59 GMT
People are going to have to get over ME3's ending eventually. It's not that hard to say hey, select one of the four endings to the reaper invasion when you start a new character. That ending will be cannon to your story going forward while in Andromeda. I don't think an entire game will go back to the future Milky Way, but they can easily incorporate alternate universes or time traveling/altering. They did it in Star Trek and it worked out great. Plus black holes are fun way to play with space/time No. Not happening.........ever. People can say it until they are blue in the face........will never make it so. Well, it happened. So does getting fired, getting dumped/cheated on, someone close to you dying. Not everything is sunshine and rainbows, but it's more dumb to just be lazy and ignore it.
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Post by n7vakarian on Feb 19, 2017 20:58:18 GMT
To be honest what would be the point? Children born after they arrive are not from the milky way they were born in Andromeda. Only the people who travelled there would have a want to go back I imagine.
But the whole endings would be the issue from the Trilogy so I would best say leave it be and let Andromeda me our new Mass Effect home.
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Post by Mihura on Feb 19, 2017 21:01:16 GMT
I do not think that is a good idea, if ME goes back to earth I hope it is about the first contact war.
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Post by Balsam Beige on Feb 19, 2017 21:18:43 GMT
No. Not happening.........ever. People can say it until they are blue in the face........will never make it so. Well, it happened. So does getting fired, getting dumped/cheated on, someone close to you dying. Not everything is sunshine and rainbows, but it's more dumb to just be lazy and ignore it. Yes it did happen, regrettably. Can't ignore that nonsensical piece of so called "artistic integrity" garbage.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 19, 2017 21:39:28 GMT
What will happen is after the credits have rolled for Andromeda, Shepard takes a breath. She/he then says "what the heck did I just dream about?". ME4 takes place shortly after ME3.
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Post by guanxi on Feb 19, 2017 21:45:52 GMT
People are going to have to get over ME3's ending eventually. It's not that hard to say hey, select one of the four endings to the reaper invasion when you start a new character. That ending will be cannon to your story going forward while in Andromeda. I don't think an entire game will go back to the future Milky Way, but they can easily incorporate alternate universes or time traveling/altering. They did it in Star Trek and it worked out great. Plus black holes are fun way to play with space/time No. Not happening.........ever. People can say it until they are blue in the face........will never make it so. As far as i'm concerned Mass Effect 3 shipped in an unfinished state and that's the end of it. Like Lucas Casey may have co-created Mass Effect but he nearly co-destroyed it. No screenplay writer worth half a damn would leave ME3 in this state, let alone attach their name to it without making drastic changes. When HBO, Lionsgate , et al. finally do get their hands on this property one day we will finally get a narratively legitimate, logically coherent, satisfying ending befitting the series, in keeping with the tone and themes, one which is free of contrivance and arises organically from the plot and I for one can't wait to see it no matter how long it takes.
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Post by dazzarlok on Feb 19, 2017 22:22:43 GMT
The biggest problem with trying to reconnect with the Milky Way is the fact that, right now, there are 4 possible outcomes that have to be dealt with: Either all machines have been destroyed (Destroy ending), there are Shepard-controlled Reapers everywhere (Control Ending), Organics and Synthetics are combined into one... species (?) and are glowing a shade of green (Synthesis Ending), or everyone is dead (The "God AI Child throws a hissy fit" Ending).
I personally would rather Bioware just not even bother trying to work around those endings and just keep Andromeda separate.
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Post by twalicious on Feb 19, 2017 23:24:52 GMT
I think returning to the MW is possible granted a century has passed. Whatever the outcome in ME3 for players, 1000 years is enough time to get things sorted out without having to make frequent reference to the Reaper War. I'd hope Shepard and his crew were tributed heavily on all the homeworlds (that's my biggest concern LOL).
Bioware is not dumb, despite the moans and groans of many of you on here. They can work with 1000 years and find a way to get the MW species in Andromeda back to the MW, maybe connect the two with quantum entanglement or whatever.
But I feel like it is possible and people are still just caught up on ME3's endings after all this time.
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Post by dazzarlok on Feb 20, 2017 0:10:02 GMT
I think returning to the MW is possible granted a century has passed. Whatever the outcome in ME3 for players, 1000 years is enough time to get things sorted out without having to make frequent reference to the Reaper War. I'd hope Shepard and his crew were tributed heavily on all the homeworlds (that's my biggest concern LOL). Bioware is not dumb, despite the moans and groans of many of you on here. They can work with 1000 years and find a way to get the MW species in Andromeda back to the MW, maybe connect the two with quantum entanglement or whatever. But I feel like it is possible and people are still just caught up on ME3's endings after all this time. Meh, I'm still not entirely sure about that. For one thing, one ending results in the Reapers winning and wiping out all organic life. 1000 years isn't gonna fix that Then there's the Synthesis ending. Are all those synthetics/organics gonna just be fine with pure organics walking around their galaxy? I mean, the whole reason Reapers wanted to wipe organics out is because they would, apparently, inevitably, create synthetics that would, apparently, inevitably wipe them out, but this was no longer an issue because synthetics and organics, in that ending, have alike minds and are now these "perfect beings" or whatever. So, when the pure, imperfect organics return from Andromeda, would the synthetic/organics kill them, seek to rule over them, or would they force them to become synthetic/organics against their will? Then with the control ending, are there gonna be a bunch of Shepard-controlled Reapers hanging around? (I can't remember if Shepard had them return to dark space, or if he made them stay in the Milky Way).
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