PS4 Pro locked at 30 FPS?

From my understanding on the pro it will be upscaled and have hdr, so it will look very well on the proper tv. Until they actually release all the pretty graphics details for all platforms we are in the dark. Im suspecting the pc side of house will come out of hiding next week with the release of the 1080ti from nvidia. Or not

ps dont listen to the snowflakes above they just want to cry and make other people feel bad its evidently the new cool thing kids do these days.

and Trash4 Pro is still trash and just a proof of how much Sony just wants money and don't care about their fans.

Because games like The Last Guardian and Nioh have amazing performances on the Trash4 Pro, but on the regular console which most of the Sony fans own right now have degraded peformance, which just proves how much of an asshole Sony is to their fans, this is going to happen with every single game released to PS4, Horizon Zero Dawn is getting released next week, I ain't going to be surprised to see it running lock at 28-30 FPS on the PlayStation 4 and those who can't afford the Trash4 Pro having to suffer with constant fps drops to even 15-18 FPS.

They do this on purpose and it doesn't matter how much updates they release, the performance of the games don't change, I know a girl who had to spend tons of money to get the Ps4 Pro because playing both The Last Guardian and Nioh was IMPOSSIBLE, both games were fucked up on the regular console.

P$4 Pro is the greatest waste of money that has been shown up in the last 20 years of gaming, you may want to call it peasant box, but you can't deny the facts that even Digital Foundry (the greatest Sony Fanbitch out there) has shown us... Xbox Scorpio is light years ahead of the PS4 Pro and can even match High End PC's, while Trash4 Pro performance can't even compare to a low to starter mid-end PC.


PC player here btw, and before you call me a Sony Hater... I have a PsOne, Ps2, Ps3 and Ps4 and some of the games made by some Sony studios are amongst the best I have ever played in my entire life.


To the OP, if you are worried about graphics... Then build an Ultimate Gaming PC and wait for Star Citizen to be released, because well... Cloud Imperium Games stated themselves: " Neither Ps4 Pro or Xbox Scorpio are strong enough to run this game in medium settings ", but if you're not then choose whatever console it has the exclusive games you like the most, it doesn't matter if it is a PS4 or XBOX ONE, the important thing is to have fun. Some people like spending time playing Uncharted, while others rather be playing Forza Horizon.

It's likely things will be tweaked over the course of the first few patches.

FFXV ran quite messy at first, especially on the higher graphics mode for the pro. The lite version even had trouble to run at 30 FPS. A few patches later the lite version runs at 60 FPS on the PS4 Pro and the higher graphics version runs smoothly (still at 30 FPS though).

If ME:A, like FFXV, allows you to run in normal PS4 mode with 60 FPS over time, that would be great.

Looking at it the lite version of FFXV seems to run at 1080p, which isn't much of a stretch for the PS4 Pro to be able to handle at a decent framerate. Although even then, I'm seeing sites report that they averaged closer to 45 instead of 60.

It would be nice if ME:A offered the same lite and high end graphics options so players could choose 1080p for a higher framerate, but so far we haven't seen anything suggesting that they've done that.

I was really hoping BioWare would get some help from DICE on optimization, since the Frostbite Engine is their software as well as Battlefield 1 being a pretty well optimized game.

Most games on PS4 normal do run at 1080p.

Though I remember somewhere BioWare noting they had the PS4 Pro running at 1800p on ME:A. The Xbox One will also run at 900p(which is pretty normal for games on that system).

I'm not sure if they included the option to run it at 1080p anyway for a higher framerate, but I would hope that they do.

Thank you to everyone who actually answered my questions.

And thank you to all the PC users who have proven that there are still people in this world who are more outwardly annoying than vegans.

After you've gotten used to how smooth 60 is, you just can't go back to 30 =P

Though 60 shouldn't be a PC only thing. The PS4 Pro and the Xbox Scorpio when it comes out should both be capable of handling respectable framerates at 1080p, and developers should allow you to choose between 1080p/60 or 1800p/30 like FFXV has the option for.

That's not true, I go back to 30fps all the time. i can't do sub 30, though. That's what kills me now.

In his defense, Sony has been claiming the PS4 Pro is a "4K console." For those of us who know better, there's no way that's actually possible given the price of the hardware. Upscaled 4K? Yes. Native 4K? Not in a million years. Even the Titan X Pascal can't maintain a steady 60 fps at 4K. It at best ranges in the 50s, obviously depending on the game. The GTX 1080 Ti is rumored to be unveiled at the GDC next week. Historically, that series of cards has never been stronger than the Titan X. That being said, the 780 Ti was actually a better card than the Titan X for that year, but that's not the norm. I would love if the 1080 Ti is better than the Titan X Pascal, though, as I'm planning on buying it.

If the Scorpio is actually capable of running games at 4K with 30 fps, I expect the system will likely cost $600-700. Microsoft has said time and time again that it will be a "premium console," so they seem to expect only the most diehard of Xbox fans will buy the system anyway.

It's actually not in Sony's best interest to promote a better framerate at a lower resolution on the Pro. That would be Sony admitting the Pro isn't nearly as power as they've been claiming since it launched. Not to mention, I think there would be an uproar from all of the Sony diehards who actually believe the PS4 Pro is capable of native 4K.

Indeed. I really wish Sony would stop this tomfoolery and getting their fan base to believe their half-truths. Then again, they are winning this generation of console hardware, so they may as well milk their customers dry if they are gullible enough to buy the "Pro."

I've been holding off to build a new gaming PC due to 4K. I'm still running a GTX 770, which still holds up fairly well, but it's definitely showing its age. I didn't want to buy a GPU that wasn't capable of running games at 4K with 60 fps. Nvidia is almost there, and perhaps the 1080 Ti will be that card, but we'll know soon enough. I might be tempted to wait for the Volta GPU series, as that will definitely hit the sweet spot, but I don't think I can wait that long.

Assuming it is priced that high, I'm really curious who Microsoft believes will actually buy it. Being capable of native 4K at 30 fps will be nice and all, but what's the point if the price tag is a barrier for most console gamers? When you start spending that kind of money, I'd rather just invest in a PC that has far more uses and that will have far more longevity.

I'm still using an i7 930, myself. This gaming PC has served me well, and the processor is still largely fine, but it's definitely not top of the line anymore and it's time for an upgrade after almost seven years. I plan to splurge on this PC making it last for the next five or so years. The only piece of hardware I'll have to upgrade will be the GPU, and if I get a 1080 Ti I shouldn't have to worry about that for a few years.

I always found the term "simplicity" to be largely subjective when it comes to consoles. I have a standard X1, and I wouldn't necessarily say it's more simple. I haven't particularly found the UI for the X1 or the PS4 to be that great. Not only that, but since the X1 and PS4 are required to install games on their hard drives just to run them, there's really no difference to me compared to a PC. The PC just offers me more options, I don't have to pay for an online service for multiplayer, and my PC will always look better and run games faster than any console ever will.

I started off as a console gamer, mind you. I grew up on the Sega Genesis and the Super Nintendo. However, once I saw the inherit benefits of PC gaming, I just never looked back. Not to mention, games also are considerably cheaper on PC than they are on consoles. I don't even know the last time I actually paid full price for a brand new game not yet released on PC.