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Post by Scottphoto on Jun 28, 2017 22:47:01 GMT
Hello there and welcome! Its hard to resist the cutie sexy beast man. I know you're not talking about me when you say "cutie sexy beast man" so you must be talking about our Gil, yeah? Hehe. Well I do mean Gil, but don't sell yourself short
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Post by morbius on Jun 28, 2017 23:38:44 GMT
I know you're not talking about me when you say "cutie sexy beast man" so you must be talking about our Gil, yeah? Hehe. Well I do mean Gil, but don't sell yourself short Haha, thanks, man
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Post by melbella on Jun 29, 2017 0:25:15 GMT
So since I'm in need of cheering up since my Jaalmancer got the letter from Gil inviting him to meet the hellbeast... What would YOU have given Gil as a story instead? I mentioned some pages ago, I would have focused on how he runs himself ragged on the Tempest as a psychological justification for coming to Andromeda - since he's a 'live in the moment, go with his gut' type of person, he's having second thoughts about having joined the Initiative, but that's a decision he can't undo, so he throws himself into working on and upgrading the Tempest, so that it can do things that no one ever anticipated or expected it to, be of greater use to the Pathfinder, and just basically provide something that only he, Gil Brodie, could have done - basically provide his arc as a mirror of Kallo's. Ultimately leading to Ryder telling him that all he needs is Gil, specifically.
Doesn't he say at one point he likes to keep himself busy so he doesn't have to think about "real" stuff too much? Or....something like that.
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Post by jjdxb on Jun 29, 2017 6:32:05 GMT
So since I'm in need of cheering up since my Jaalmancer got the letter from Gil inviting him to meet the hellbeast... What would YOU have given Gil as a story instead? I mentioned some pages ago, I would have focused on how he runs himself ragged on the Tempest as a psychological justification for coming to Andromeda - since he's a 'live in the moment, go with his gut' type of person, he's having second thoughts about having joined the Initiative, but that's a decision he can't undo, so he throws himself into working on and upgrading the Tempest, so that it can do things that no one ever anticipated or expected it to, be of greater use to the Pathfinder, and just basically provide something that only he, Gil Brodie, could have done - basically provide his arc as a mirror of Kallo's. Ultimately leading to Ryder telling him that all he needs is Gil, specifically.
Doesn't he say at one point he likes to keep himself busy so he doesn't have to think about "real" stuff too much? Or....something like that.
Yup. I think he feels if he stops for any serious amount of time, it's going to come crashing down on him. He's afraid, very afraid, which we can imply from his workaholic attitude and his need to feel safe as seen in his sex scene. I think there's also an element of not wanting to be a burden on others, which is why he fudges reports and busts ass to complete work so he can at least give the image to the others that things are fine (with everything not just himself). Yet he also takes on waaayyy too much burden (again working hours).
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Post by antmarch456 on Jul 2, 2017 11:10:26 GMT
So apparently Gil has a CC face... https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6ksh3h/no_spoilers_when_you_realise_gil_has_a_cc_face/
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jul 2, 2017 11:52:48 GMT
So apparently Gil has a CC face... https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6ksh3h/no_spoilers_when_you_realise_gil_has_a_cc_face/ Yeah, this has been known for a long while now. Reyes does as well. That was one of the complaints in the post-release furor over the m/m options: that the only two m/m options were not only both human, but they had CC faces, while everyone else had an unique one. (I don't know if Suvi does, or not.)
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Jul 2, 2017 20:53:50 GMT
So apparently Gil has a CC face... https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6ksh3h/no_spoilers_when_you_realise_gil_has_a_cc_face/ Yeah, this has been known for a long while now. Reyes does as well. That was one of the complaints in the post-release furor over the m/m options: that the only two m/m options were not only both human, but they had CC faces, while everyone else had an unique one. (I don't know if Suvi does, or not.) She does. It's the same with Traynor and Cortez in ME3, the shipboard gay-only romances have faces built in the CC, faces that a dedicated player could rebuild on their own.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 3:32:11 GMT
The gil face was remade already with great accuracy. I recorded the Jaal lake scene with him for science. It was pretty odd seeing Gil hooking up with Jaal, and even odder with Scott's voice coming out of Gil's body.
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Post by dino on Jul 3, 2017 6:15:39 GMT
So apparently Gil has a CC face... https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6ksh3h/no_spoilers_when_you_realise_gil_has_a_cc_face/ Hah! I made him. Worked a little bit more on him and can post the new link when I am at home. But the fact that he is a cc face isn't new. There are some difference like the nose. I think he is still great. On tumblr is btw gil week sooo... Happy Gil week!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 7:31:11 GMT
So apparently Gil has a CC face... https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6ksh3h/no_spoilers_when_you_realise_gil_has_a_cc_face/ Hah! I made him. Worked a little bit more on him and can post the new link when I am at home. But the fact that he is a cc face isn't new. There are some difference like the nose. I think he is still great. On tumblr is btw gil week sooo... Happy Gil week! If it wasn't for the fact Gil Ryder didn't wear his clothes all that long i n the lake scene I'd be tempted to go back and recolor like you did. That's much better Still it was fun using your gil in game. lol!
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Post by dino on Jul 3, 2017 7:48:34 GMT
Hah! I made him. Worked a little bit more on him and can post the new link when I am at home. But the fact that he is a cc face isn't new. There are some difference like the nose. I think he is still great. On tumblr is btw gil week sooo... Happy Gil week! If it wasn't for the fact Gil Ryder didn't wear his clothes all that long i n the lake scene I'd be tempted to go back and recolor like you did. That's much better Still it was fun using your gil in game. lol! Thanks! I already saw a mod where you can wear Gils clothes but my game is always freezing when I use this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 8:03:11 GMT
If it wasn't for the fact Gil Ryder didn't wear his clothes all that long i n the lake scene I'd be tempted to go back and recolor like you did. That's much better Still it was fun using your gil in game. lol! Thanks! I already saw a mod where you can wear Gils clothes but my game is always freezing when I use this. That outfit is perfect anyway. Looks like something Gil would wear, and it's more functional looking for dancing on tables. haha!
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Post by antmarch456 on Jul 3, 2017 8:05:01 GMT
So apparently Gil has a CC face... https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6ksh3h/no_spoilers_when_you_realise_gil_has_a_cc_face/ Hah! I made him. Worked a little bit more on him and can post the new link when I am at home. But the fact that he is a cc face isn't new. There are some difference like the nose. I think he is still great. On tumblr is btw gil week sooo... Happy Gil week! You haven't by any chance managed to create a CC face of Sloane Kelly? I saw that mod that made Sloane Kelly look younger, and the creator said it was based on CC resources.
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Post by dino on Jul 3, 2017 8:22:25 GMT
Hah! I made him. Worked a little bit more on him and can post the new link when I am at home. But the fact that he is a cc face isn't new. There are some difference like the nose. I think he is still great. On tumblr is btw gil week sooo... Happy Gil week! You haven't by any chance managed to create a CC face of Sloane Kelly? I saw that mod that made Sloane Kelly look younger, and the creator said it was based on CC resources. I could try but her Tattoos, scars and the eye colors would be different because that's unique stuff. Will just take time. Have not really time and will be on holidays after this week.
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Post by sageoflife on Jul 4, 2017 3:04:25 GMT
So, I completed the Jaal romance (and got my platinum trophy by doing so), and while I think it was generally well done, I've decided to stick with Gil as my canon. I got attached to him when it was just Gil vs Reyes. Plus I prefer to stick with humans anyway.
That is why I think I can say that, even though I've decided to stick with Gil, I still think making Jaal an option was the smarter use of resources, simply because of the issues that existed outside the question of which specific options we prefer.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jul 4, 2017 3:15:43 GMT
So, I completed the Jaal romance (and got my platinum trophy by doing so), and while I think it was generally well done, I've decided to stick with Gil as my canon. I got attached to him when it was just Gil vs Reyes. Plus I prefer to stick with humans anyway. That is why I think I can say that, even though I've decided to stick with Gil, I still think making Jaal an option was the smarter use of resources, simply because of the issues that existed outside the question of which specific options we prefer. To me it's not about preferring Gil as an option, it's annoyance that they decided to ignore their current/release options, especially their only exclusively gay option, in favor of dangling a new shiny in front of people. Reyes still has Scott animation problems as well. So now they have an excuse to not touch Gil or Reyes AT ALL. It's painfully obvious that the devs just don't give a shit about him, or that they even understand why his arc and romance bothered many people. I'm not surprised in the least that this happened when they decided to make Jaal bi, but I was foolishly hoping it wouldn't, and so am disappointed and will continue to be. Jaal should have been bi from the start, on that I fully agree, but it doesn't change any of Gil's problems.
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Post by qunaripenis on Jul 4, 2017 7:07:39 GMT
I'm crying because i already knew he was a CC face and this hurts but it's also so very beautiful
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Post by dino on Jul 4, 2017 7:21:41 GMT
I'm crying because i already knew he was a CC face and this hurts but it's also so very beautiful I try to do the best with it :'D
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Jul 4, 2017 17:31:04 GMT
So, I completed the Jaal romance (and got my platinum trophy by doing so), and while I think it was generally well done, I've decided to stick with Gil as my canon. I got attached to him when it was just Gil vs Reyes. Plus I prefer to stick with humans anyway. That is why I think I can say that, even though I've decided to stick with Gil, I still think making Jaal an option was the smarter use of resources, simply because of the issues that existed outside the question of which specific options we prefer. To me it's not about preferring Gil as an option, it's annoyance that they decided to ignore their current/release options, especially their only exclusively gay option, in favor of dangling a new shiny in front of people. Reyes still has Scott animation problems as well. So now they have an excuse to not touch Gil or Reyes AT ALL. It's painfully obvious that the devs just don't give a shit about him, or that they even understand why his arc and romance bothered many people. I'm not surprised in the least that this happened when they decided to make Jaal bi, but I was foolishly hoping it wouldn't, and so am disappointed and will continue to be. Jaal should have been bi from the start, on that I fully agree, but it doesn't change any of Gil's problems. I think one of the biggest complains is about the lack of gay squadmate and people consistently bringing up the trophy issue where they require 3 romances. It's less resource intensive to get 2 actors instead of 3 actors back and less scenes having to be redone. Fixing Gil and Reyes also still wouldn't give Scott a unique face or a squadmate. Plus, Jaal is arguably more popular than the other two looking at related number of posts, how big his following is, as well as the big twitter tag. Changing Gil may even require them to bring back contest winner to re-record Jill. It's more of an easy way out as well as satisfy the most number of people by making Jaal bi. This whole game, no, this whole series has been a big mess when it comes to gay characters. All the way from ME1 to MEA. I still can't believe how they honestly think it's acceptable to not give us a squadmate and half ass contents like that after only doing a half ass contents with ME3. If they make another ME game, I really wonder if they really learn their lesson after 4 games or pull this crap once again. The whole controversy really killed a lot of my interests in this game.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Jul 4, 2017 17:32:16 GMT
I'm crying because i already knew he was a CC face and this hurts but it's also so very beautiful I try to do the best with it :'D Gil, go fuck yourself.
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Post by morbius on Jul 5, 2017 0:43:59 GMT
As shallow as it may sound of me to say it, I'd totally watch Gil fuck himself LOL...of course, I'd try to get in the middle of it at some point.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Jul 5, 2017 1:02:23 GMT
So, I completed the Jaal romance (and got my platinum trophy by doing so), and while I think it was generally well done, I've decided to stick with Gil as my canon. I got attached to him when it was just Gil vs Reyes. Plus I prefer to stick with humans anyway. That is why I think I can say that, even though I've decided to stick with Gil, I still think making Jaal an option was the smarter use of resources, simply because of the issues that existed outside the question of which specific options we prefer. To me it's not about preferring Gil as an option, it's annoyance that they decided to ignore their current/release options, especially their only exclusively gay option, in favor of dangling a new shiny in front of people. Reyes still has Scott animation problems as well. So now they have an excuse to not touch Gil or Reyes AT ALL. It's painfully obvious that the devs just don't give a shit about him, or that they even understand why his arc and romance bothered many people. I'm not surprised in the least that this happened when they decided to make Jaal bi, but I was foolishly hoping it wouldn't, and so am disappointed and will continue to be. Jaal should have been bi from the start, on that I fully agree, but it doesn't change any of Gil's problems. Yeah. I mean, I've tweeted to the developers countless times now and haven't heard a word about ANYTHING in relation to Gil, so it's obvious what they're concerned about. And yeah, I know that I'm one person and they get dozens of tweets every single day directed at them, but since the movement focused on Jaal, they did what they needed to there, so now the crowd has died off, and they can dismiss anyone addressing anything else so casually. And it sucks because as evidenced here... Gil's got a popular following. This is the largest character thread following Jaal's. And while a bunch of that is us bitching back and forth on the subject, this still counts, because we're passionate about him. But instead, he's going to be left with this homophobic mess that those of us who love him and want to romance him absolutely HATE. And instead of even remotely listening when we say 'this is messed up, this needs to be fixed,' they're not going any further than 'hey, according to the metrics, people are romancing him, he must be just fine.' When they don't listen that we're romancing him IN SPITE of his story, not because of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 3:24:44 GMT
I would love for a patch to AT LEAST enable the kiss at the end via one of the other choices you can make at the end that aren't about the stupid ass baby that I will never have with homophobic Jill. I mean WTF BioWare?
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Post by skepticgaymer on Jul 7, 2017 12:02:39 GMT
Wow, I left for a couple weeks and this thread is almost at 500 posts. Amusing.
I still haven't forged the will to replay this game, because I initially wanted to replay as Sara and romance Vetra.. but knowing Gil's situation I find myself uncomfortable when not romancing him which is a strange turn for me. I had similar feelings about Inquisition, but in a different sense.
In Inquisition I started out as an Elven Female Mage, and of course I couldn't resist the call of our beautiful Cullen. And after that I found that it felt strange not to play an Elven mage, or even an elf in general. Mainly due to the heavy amount of elf related content thrown at you, especially when I replayed as the same character for the Solas romance.
So I feel like starting out on his romance, much like playing an elf mage in DA:I, I sort of stole away part of the experience and internally limited myself. Knowing the situation I was stuck in this metagaming mindset of knowing exactly what will happen to him if I don't romance him, and how his whole "BFF" situation is set up.. I couldn't bring myself to replay the game. I'm aware that it's a strange hang up, but it's how I feel.
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