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Post by PermTrouble on Mar 7, 2017 19:16:49 GMT
Even 1080p is flirting into 3-4 territory
I wouldn't suggest anything under 4 if you're upgrading.
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Post by Rico01 on Mar 7, 2017 19:26:31 GMT
Even 1080p is flirting into 3-4 territory I wouldn't suggest anything under 4 if you're upgrading. I've read that cards with bigger VRAM requests more VRAM simply because it is available, not because they are actually using more. Apparently, all the tools to check how much VRAM a game uses only reports the requested VRAM so it is hard to say how much is too little. But I agree with you. If you are going to upgrade, upgrade to a card with as much VRAM as your budget allows, but make sure the upgrade is worthwhile. Buying another version of the same GPU but with more VRAM is generally a bad deal. Not always, but most of the time.
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Post by Chardonney on Mar 7, 2017 20:48:58 GMT
The Nitro+ card is clocked highest of the bunch, including the MSI, though probably also the most expensive option. It won't be a night and day difference but a few FPS higher is expected from a higher clocked card. My bet would be the Nitro+ card. Have no idea about the temperatures and fan noise, the MSI and ASUS cards are known for being great in this department. If you want a quiet computer the Nitro+ might not be a good choice but I don't know for sure. The difference between 1 and 2 above are the connectors as far as I can see. Yeah, I read many mentioning the same thing about Nitro's noise level and about MSI running cooler and quieter. Oh man, even buying a car would be easier than this. Okay, I'm going with the MSI, then. It seems like the best choice and was already suggested to me before. I have no idea about other GPUs out there, so I guess this it.
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Post by Rico01 on Mar 7, 2017 21:01:07 GMT
Yeah, I read many mentioning the same thing about Nitro's noise level and about MSI running cooler and quieter. Oh man, even buying a car would be easier than this. Okay, I'm going with the MSI, then. It seems like the best choice and was already suggested to me before. I have no idea about other GPUs out there, so I guess this it. For what it's worth, I'm having the MSI 1060 Gaming X card and it is... quiet. In fact, it is dead silent as long as the temp is below something like 65C because the fans don't spin before that. The cooling solution on my card should be the same on the 480. I hope you will be happy with it!
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Post by Chardonney on Mar 7, 2017 21:07:34 GMT
For what it's worth, I'm having the MSI 1060 Gaming X card and it is... quiet. In fact, it is dead silent as long as the temp is below something like 65C because the fans don't spin before that. The cooling solution on my card should be the same on the 480. I hope you will be happy with it! I hope so too and I'm starting to feel more confident now that I've made the final decision. Thank you for your help.
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Post by Pearl on Mar 8, 2017 0:16:06 GMT
This guy does a ton of analysis on AMD. He's one of my go-to guys for hardware. Have a look: I like Adored. That said, I think he made a mistake by cherrypicking a few examples from Joker's video when it seems like nobody else can reproduce those results, at least not with the 7700K running at 5GHz.
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Post by PermTrouble on Mar 8, 2017 0:50:52 GMT
I been xrinking and not ckmpletely up on the context
But
Take ryzen benchmarks with a gran of salt. Folks all had dif mobos with babby bios
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Post by hathur on Mar 8, 2017 10:21:03 GMT
Wonder if anyone could offer some insight ... I'm in a weird spot system requirements wise.
My system is an Intel Core 2 Quad q6700 @ 2.66ghz (ancient cpu), 8 gigs DDR2 RAM (yes.. DDR2.. also ancient) @1033mhz. Video card is a brand new Geforce GTX 1050 TI 4gb (was on sale, got it while I save up for a whole new rig later this year, probably black friday this year).
Currently I can run Witcher 3 at 1080p settings with a mix of High & medium settings at a steady 40fps (never drops below 30fps and I am content if any game keeps 30fps or higher.. 60fps is merely a bonus but not a necessity for me). I can run Dragon Age Inquisition at 60fps rock solid. However, the newest Deus Ex mankind divided game struggles to stay at 30fps unless I drop resolution to 720p (and even then it barely keeps 30fps on medium / low settings).
Since I have Origin access I decided to try Battlefield 1 and Mirror's Edge catalyst since you can play them for free as a member. Mirror's edge ran at 50fps on a mix of medium / high settings, sometimes dropping to 30fps but not often.
Battlefield 1, to my shock, ran at a very nice steady 40fps on mostly high settings 1080p. Visually was stunning but I was more stunned how smoothly it ran at relatively high detail levels (never dropped under 30fps, but would sit at 30fps during some heavy battles.. which is fine for me).
Is it safe to reasonably assume that since Battlefield 1 / Mirror's Edge catalyst and Mass EFfect Andromeda use the same base engine (frostbite), that I'll likely be able to run Andromeda decently well also? I'm optimistic anyway that I can.
It's just super weird because my CPU is significantly below the minimum requirements for Andromeda, Witcher 3, & Battlefield 1. In fact, all 3 games, if taken at face value by minimum requirements, suggest I shouldn't be able to run the game even... yet I can.. and at 1080p medium / high settings. I suspect this is due to the sheer brute force of the GTX 1050 ti I got recently (which I know is being terribly bottlenecked by my ancient cpu).
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Post by narcoticbiotic on Mar 8, 2017 11:46:06 GMT
I'd say if you can run all those games, you can expect MEA to run fine as well. Though I'd leave Deus Ex out of the equation because I keep hearing from different people that it was pretty badly optimized and didn't run great even on powerful machines. Comparing to DAI will give you the best idea, I think, though I'm surprised it runs that well for you! At what settings did you get 60fps in DAI? I was also really shocked at how well BF1 runs on my below min req CPU, but that game is by Dice, who developed the Frostbite engine and are experts at optimizing their games for it. So I don't expect MEA to perform quite that well, but I hope Bioware have learned a lot from DAI and can put that knowledge to use for good optimization. On the other hand, it's a current gen game and they didn't have to optimize with any ancienct consoles in mind like they did for DAI... tl;dr I'm pretty sure you'll be fine at 1080p, possibly on low-medium settings. It's kinda just... a lot of guessing at this point.
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Post by hathur on Mar 8, 2017 11:55:19 GMT
Comparing to DAI will give you the best idea, I think, though I'm surprised it runs that well for you! At what settings did you get 60fps in DAI? I was also really shocked at how well BF1 runs on my below min req CPU, but that game is by Dice, who developed the Frostbite engine and are experts at optimizing their games for it. So I don't expect MEA to perform quite that well, but I hope Bioware have learned a lot from DAI and can put that knowledge to use for good optimization. On the other hand, it's a current gen game and they didn't have to optimize with any ancienct consoles in mind like they did for DAI... tl;dr I'm pretty sure you'll be fine at 1080p, possibly on low-medium settings. It's kinda just... a lot of guessing at this point. I was running DAI at 1080p on mostly high settings with a few things turned down (namely tesellation). Lowest it ever droppped after was 45fps for a few seconds and that was always when I was loading a new map / zone where my slow cpu was trying to catch up to the video card I suspect.. but once a map was loaded, within 10 seconds of waiting for it to settle down it was smooth sailing from then on. I've also recently read on steam about the nightmarish optimization issues with Deus Ex, so probably best I not consider it since it seems even with people exceeding the recommended system are having performance issues. Just hoping Bioware then has made a decently optimized game then and I should be fine as none of the other Frostbite engine games seem to have caused me issues (though as you say, those were made by DICE who designed the engine in the first place, so they're undoubtedly more skilled at optimizing their own engine).
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Post by Rico01 on Mar 8, 2017 12:08:21 GMT
This is why I'm saying, don't upgrade before you check the game's performance with your current hardware.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Mar 8, 2017 14:35:34 GMT
I've had a new card & memory in my cart for days now, can't make myself click the buy button. Terrified of royally screwing up my pc when I install the stuff, even though I've done both before. Also paranoid that stuff won't fit (even though my case is huge) or isn't compatible, though I've checked both things.
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Post by narcoticbiotic on Mar 8, 2017 15:09:43 GMT
I've had a new card & memory in my cart for days now, can't make myself click the buy button. Terrified of royally screwing up my pc when I install the stuff, even though I've done both before. Also paranoid that stuff won't fit (even though my case is huge) or isn't compatible, though I've checked both things.
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Post by christsuperstar on Mar 8, 2017 16:04:09 GMT
*snip* My system is an Intel Core 2 Quad q6700 @ 2.66ghz (ancient cpu), 8 gigs DDR2 RAM (yes.. DDR2.. also ancient) @1033mhz. Video card is a brand new Geforce GTX 1050 TI 4gb (was on sale, got it while I save up for a whole new rig later this year, probably black friday this year). *and snip* I'm holding off another year, before upgrading myself, but damn, that IS an old rig for sure, and here I felt my 2600k was old - CPUs however, have a tendency of being surprisingly relevant even after some years. Seeing as your CPU is not that far from i5-750, you might find the posted video interesting. I would definetly wait, quickly check if it's within acceptable performance for you, before investing early in a new setup. You wont win any FPS contests (maybe slideshow contests - yay), but the 1050 and older duster might just pull it off if you're lucky. Could possibly play around with some OC'ing, if you dare.
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Post by Nyx on Mar 8, 2017 17:17:29 GMT
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Post by manofsteel on Mar 8, 2017 17:24:59 GMT
Via Nvidia, we get our first look at the available graphics options. Apparently the menu is WIP, but I'm not sure if we should expect anything to change. But here we go:
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Post by qwib on Mar 8, 2017 18:32:21 GMT
Well I know what I will turn off immediately... Film Grain. LoL
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Post by elevon on Mar 8, 2017 19:34:34 GMT
The Nitro+ card is clocked highest of the bunch, including the MSI, though probably also the most expensive option. It won't be a night and day difference but a few FPS higher is expected from a higher clocked card. My bet would be the Nitro+ card. Have no idea about the temperatures and fan noise, the MSI and ASUS cards are known for being great in this department. If you want a quiet computer the Nitro+ might not be a good choice but I don't know for sure. The difference between 1 and 2 above are the connectors as far as I can see. Yeah, I read many mentioning the same thing about Nitro's noise level and about MSI running cooler and quieter. Oh man, even buying a car would be easier than this. Okay, I'm going with the MSI, then. It seems like the best choice and was already suggested to me before. I have no idea about other GPUs out there, so I guess this it. Personally one of the best RX480 cards is the 8GB XFX 480 GTR Black Edition, has a very good heatsink and fans are swapable in seconds without tools, yes I have one and one of the best decisions I made. Just make sure it fits in your case at 280mm long. My fans don't even come on until 60c(most of my games in 50s temp wise, highest I have reached is 63c.) Glad I made this choice over the 1060.
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Post by rdbc1983 on Mar 8, 2017 19:35:22 GMT
My specs are Intel Core i7-6700 @ 3.4GHz 16 GB DDR4 RAM Nvidia GTX 1070 8GB I should be more than set. I just bought this new computer recently. Still making payments, but it's worth it, lol. I have the same specs, cool!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 19:59:27 GMT
For gaming, would it really be worth it to go the extra mile from the GTX1060 3GB to the GTX1060 6GB? Get the 6 GB VRAM version. The 3 GB VRAM version of GTX 1060 is kind of a joke... it runs great... until you hit that memory limit, what becomes very easy nowadays.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 20:03:05 GMT
I hope I will be able to turn up that DSR (Resolution Scalling) to 140-150% on my system. I still use 1080p monitor, but I noticed using DSR really makes things look extra crispy.
My specs are: i7-4790k 4.1 Ghz 2x4GB RAM on dual channel GTX 1080 8 GB VRAM SSD 256 GB (I will install ME:A on it)
Everything looks great, only the memory is at minimum specs, but I think it won't cause much trouble.
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Post by palinopsia on Mar 8, 2017 20:10:46 GMT
Just saw the nvidia article and I'm still really worried about how my pc will run this game. I meet every requirement except the GPU for recommended. And considering the GTX 660 is the minimum requirement for 1280x720 I feel like I'm pretty fucked with my GTX 760, as I'm going to be playing at 1920x1080. So much for med-high settings I guess lmao
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Post by vanillah on Mar 8, 2017 20:31:57 GMT
Just saw the nvidia article and I'm still really worried about how my pc will run this game. I meet every requirement except the GPU. And considering the GTX 660 is the minimum requirement for 1280x720 I feel like I'm pretty fucked with my GTX 760, as I'm going to be playing at 1920x1080. So much for med-high settings I guess lmao Not only the resolution but the requirements are for expected 30FPS game-play. help.ea.com/en/help/mass-effect/mass-effect-andromeda/are-you-ready-for-mass-effect-andromeda/?sf53085265=1#pc LOL i hope they are joking there is no way GTX 1060 at 1080p produces only 30fps in frostbite.
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Post by palinopsia on Mar 8, 2017 20:43:01 GMT
Just saw the nvidia article and I'm still really worried about how my pc will run this game. I meet every requirement except the GPU. And considering the GTX 660 is the minimum requirement for 1280x720 I feel like I'm pretty fucked with my GTX 760, as I'm going to be playing at 1920x1080. So much for med-high settings I guess lmao Not only the resolution but the requirements are for expected 30FPS game-play. help.ea.com/en/help/mass-effect/mass-effect-andromeda/are-you-ready-for-mass-effect-andromeda/?sf53085265=1#pc LOL i hope they are joking there is no way GTX 1060 at 1080p produces only 30fps in frostbite. Holy fucking shit
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