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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 6, 2017 22:46:14 GMT
Yaaaay. Why am i not happier?
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 6, 2017 22:53:36 GMT
Yaaaay. Why am i not happier? Sarcasm or annoyance or both? Sorry can't tell.
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Post by The Joe-Man on Mar 6, 2017 22:56:16 GMT
Wonderful Who invited the suit rats? They probably stowed away on the turian ark.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 6, 2017 22:59:25 GMT
Wonderful Who invited the suit rats? They probably stowed away on the turian ark. Geth discovered and fully scanned Heleus Stars Clusters by merging 3 Mass Relays and using them as real time telescope, as they were searching for Reapers in dark space. Quarians managed to steal that data information from Geth, then provided it to Andromeda Initiative. For that, as well their technical expertise, Qurians got invited into AI.
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Post by shepherdcommander on Mar 6, 2017 23:25:58 GMT
I havent watched this yet it was published today, but i am watching it now, and seems appropriate, here.
around 4mins in they talk ab out HABITAT 5 and how it supportts Turians and Quarians (because they both have Dextro DNA)! at after the 5:30 mark THERE IS A HINT AT GETH!!!
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 7, 2017 0:40:54 GMT
Yaaaay. Why am i not happier? Sarcasm or annoyance or both? Sorry can't tell. Neither. I just realized I don't really care that much for Quarians. Tali was always one of my least favorite MET characters and I didn't care that much about her people. That said, they have a great story, but from a personal POV for some reason I never cared. Probably because I dislike the whole helmet-design thing.
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Post by farsight on Mar 7, 2017 1:03:04 GMT
Wonderful Who invited the suit rats? They probably stowed away on the turian ark. Geth discovered and fully scanned Heleus Stars Clusters by merging 3 Mass Relays and using them as real time telescope, as they were searching for Reapers in dark space. Quarians managed to steal that data information from Geth, then provided it to Andromeda Initiative. For that, as well their technical expertise, Qurians got invited into AI.
Is this a true spoiler?
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Post by brunobyof on Mar 7, 2017 2:53:30 GMT
Geth discovered and fully scanned Heleus Stars Clusters by merging 3 Mass Relays and using them as real time telescope, as they were searching for Reapers in dark space. Quarians managed to steal that data information from Geth, then provided it to Andromeda Initiative. For that, as well their technical expertise, Qurians got invited into AI.
Is this a true spoiler? yes, i mean, i didn't read all the details on the briefing but assuming the Youtubbers above are all real fans and not trolls, i believe it's true. You can check that info from the latest briefing to make sure
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 7, 2017 3:49:56 GMT
Geth discovered and fully scanned Heleus Stars Clusters by merging 3 Mass Relays and using them as real time telescope, as they were searching for Reapers in dark space. Quarians managed to steal that data information from Geth, then provided it to Andromeda Initiative. For that, as well their technical expertise, Qurians got invited into AI.
Is this a true spoiler? Other than the Reaper part, yes. The reason the Geth were doing it is unknown.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 7, 2017 7:08:02 GMT
Other than the Reaper part, yes. The reason the Geth were doing it is unknown. It's quite obvious it is Reapers they were searching for though, from what we learned with Shepard.
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 7, 2017 11:43:12 GMT
Its just because I'm a human geneticist and a few hundred people has very little genetic diversity for a permanent residence. You at least want thousands of people to establish long term colonies. Your article seems to only talk about a relatively short period of inbreeding. I don't believe it could be sustainable for an extended period of time. If you look at the codex it says that the genophage reduced the krogan birth rate to something like 0.1% of what it was. A Krogan pregnancy generated thousands of eggs. If Krogans got pregnant multiple times like any other species, a single couple could produce several thousand offspring. Point-one percent viability is one child per pregnancy, which is in line with the standards of the humans, turians, and asari. And how do you know how often krogen procreate? Is it written down somewhere or is it just an assumption?
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 7, 2017 11:54:35 GMT
So this is how they reveal there might be quarians in andromeda? After so many fans have been asking that question from N7 day and before? I have to say, this is the worst marketing I've seen for a game. They didn't even show you a quarian. The only explanation I can think of for why marketing have not show any quarians is because when one of the arks goes down, all the quarian coloniests still in cryostasis are killed as a result. And thats a slap to the face. Why is it the worst marketing? I see it as an incentive for people to 'look' in game for the species -only the returning players would even care about. To the newly christened Mass Effectee players -doubt they would care. To which ark do you refer going down? In the GW Briefing it was said: "turian and quarian colonists". So I would assume that since both those species are Dextrto based they probably in habitat on the same Ark. I know we have seen several turians in Andromeda already which seems to point toward the fact that their ark made it safely down. It also is said in the latest briefing video that the four arks we know about: Human, Salarain, Asari and Turian are just the first wave of arks... so more to follow... maybe even part of the game could deal with their arrival as well... doubt that last part but here is hoping. It is the worst marketing because the question of quarian involvement has been asked by multiple you tube personalities that are known to the developers and have even been asked to play andromeda before release (because they are so well known), multiple fans have been asking about quarians all over the internet on redit and twitter, magazines have articles in which they question the involvement of the quarians. Even Mac Walters, the guy in charge of all departments of mass effect deveopment was asked in an interview, are there quarians in andromeda because they were one of the main races. Yet basically what the fans want to know is unbeknownst to whoever is running the marketing campaign for ME:A and they let us know in the shitest way possible by having a one liner in a marketing video on the intiative without even showing a quarian. It is so subtle that people could be forgiven for missing it. If I was the head of bioware, I would have fired the head of marketing for not even being aware of the fan base and attempt to answer a question more clearly that would easily increase hype of the game before release. Am I wrong here? It was stated a long time ago that something like the turian ark went missing (which I'm guessing then is the same one the quarians are on) on something like twitter or somewhere on the internet, but this was a year ago. Keep in mind there are probably turians on the nexus as well so thats no guarantee that everyone survived just because you saw a few turians.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 7, 2017 13:29:59 GMT
Why is it the worst marketing? I see it as an incentive for people to 'look' in game for the species -only the returning players would even care about. To the newly christened Mass Effectee players -doubt they would care. To which ark do you refer going down? In the GW Briefing it was said: "turian and quarian colonists". So I would assume that since both those species are Dextrto based they probably in habitat on the same Ark. I know we have seen several turians in Andromeda already which seems to point toward the fact that their ark made it safely down. It also is said in the latest briefing video that the four arks we know about: Human, Salarain, Asari and Turian are just the first wave of arks... so more to follow... maybe even part of the game could deal with their arrival as well... doubt that last part but here is hoping. It is the worst marketing because the question of quarian involvement has been asked by multiple you tube personalities that are known to the developers and have even been asked to play andromeda before release (because they are so well known), multiple fans have been asking about quarians all over the internet on redit and twitter, magazines have articles in which they question the involvement of the quarians. Even Mac Walters, the guy in charge of all departments of mass effect deveopment was asked in an interview, are there quarians in andromeda because they were one of the main races. Yet basically what the fans want to know is unbeknownst to whoever is running the marketing campaign for ME:A and they let us know in the shitest way possible by having a one liner in a marketing video on the intiative without even showing a quarian. It is so subtle that people could be forgiven for missing it. If I was the head of bioware, I would have fired the head of marketing for not even being aware of the fan base and attempt to answer a question more clearly that would easily increase hype of the game before release. Am I wrong here? It was stated a long time ago that something like the turian ark went missing (which I'm guessing then is the same one the quarians are on) on something like twitter or somewhere on the internet, but this was a year ago. Keep in mind there are probably turians on the nexus as well so thats no guarantee that everyone survived just because you saw a few turians. It's probably something like this: - Bioware is lazy and has a poll of which races to exclude from Andromeda. Selections include Hanar, Elcor, Volus, Vorcha, Drell, Geth, and Quarians. - Quarians, of course, got some votes, so this can be used as an excuse for not having them in Andromeda, but this is merely a diversionary tactic, as anyone with half a brain realizes that NONE of the races from the poll are in Andromeda, and Bioware's mind was already made up before the poll was even posted. - Huge amount of Pro-Quarian backlash ensues. Bioware is repeatedly asked if Quarians are really not going to appear. - Bioware decides they better try to pacify the situation by scraping something together before the game's release deadline. - In the meantime, fans continue to press the matter. PR is unable to give a definitive answer, as they are scrambling to put something to do with Quarians into the game in some half-assed manner, but are as of yet unaware if they are going to finish in time. - 10 days before the game launches, they finally are able to make a little blurb about Quarians, indicating that they did in fact succeed in putting Quarians in there somewhere. - A large portion of the Day One DLC may likely contain Quarian-related content. Only dataminers will know for sure. - This is why criticism is considered healthy. It pressures the content creators to create better content. - I still expect it to be half-ass, but that's better than no ass.
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Post by Princess Trejo on Mar 7, 2017 13:38:46 GMT
The Krogan ate them on the journey. Some humans too... cannibalism is part of our ancient culture but in this case Quarians are not even our species so it's morally acceptable. *wink*
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 7, 2017 13:56:40 GMT
They'll probably show Quarians in future video(s).
Its not a big deal.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 7, 2017 14:46:38 GMT
Other than the Reaper part, yes. The reason the Geth were doing it is unknown. It's quite obvious it is Reapers they were searching for though, from what we learned with Shepard. How so? Considering the Andromeda Initiative is formed years before the events of Mass Effect 1, this project most likely was done before Sovereign ever contacted them.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 7, 2017 14:57:08 GMT
It's quite obvious it is Reapers they were searching for though, from what we learned with Shepard. How so? Considering the Andromeda Initiative is formed years before the events of Mass Effect 1, this project most likely was done before Sovereign ever contacted them. Inb4 someone tells you that you are wrong and that it was formed between ME1 and 2
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 7, 2017 15:23:11 GMT
It's quite obvious it is Reapers they were searching for though, from what we learned with Shepard. How so? Considering the Andromeda Initiative is formed years before the events of Mass Effect 1, this project most likely was done before Sovereign ever contacted them. We do not know when did Sovereign exactly contacted Geth, but it was definitely way before ME1 starts. Surely Geth Heretics needed decades to prepare and build a massive war machine for the war against the Citadel Council empires to capture Citadel.
Also it is irrelevant, as Geth are clearly not joining AI. They found Heleus Stars Cluster by themselves, surveyed it for their own reasons and Quarians stole the data from them while in their quest to find an edge to beat Geth.
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Post by argentus on Mar 7, 2017 20:45:03 GMT
Just to play devils advocate, let's assume it was the fan reaction that caused them to change the setting. Consider an alternative universe where the endings as they were originally released are universally loved fans and praised by critics for their brilliance. It's still split about equally as to which is your favorite, but everyone has at least one they love. There are no flame wars or protests, so we're all still talking on the official forums. In fact, the devs are stopping by daily to bask in the never ending praise we give them there. Okay, scenario set up. It's time for the next Mass Effect game. Where do we go? What do we do? The endings are still vastly different outcomes, which the writers were careful to point out are all equally valid choices, with no real "good" or "bad" choice. Choosing one as canon will displease (to put put lightly) 2/3's of the fanbase. Setting aside the ending, several choices within the game have wildly different outcomes. Several civilizations can be effectively eradicated depending on the outcome of your choices including the geth, quarians, krogan, drell. hanar and batarains. Any direct continuation of the story is impossible without establishing a canon story that will displease the vast majority of fans. So, to put it bluntly, you are wrong. Regardless of the fan reaction to the endings, the writers are left in the same quagmire when it comes to continuing the story. If you want to blame anyone for the situation that the present writers found themselves in, blame the ME3 writers who ensured it would be virtually impossible to make a direct continuation of their story. The writers were the ones that "doomed" the quarians and, fittingly, they are the only ones that can "save" them, if they so choose. So you're telling me that I'm wrong because the fans would be angry at the endings and possibly choosing one as canon to continue the franchise in the milky way. Is that not just an extension of the anger the fans had anyway about the original endings? I'm not saying the writers are blameless. They did write themselves into a corner, but the fan base overreacted so negatively that they had to change the setting. Its not really playing devils advocate or making an assumption to say thats the reason they changed the setting. That was the reason they changed the setting. The developers have basically stated this a long time ago. The trilogy finished 5 years ago, does it really matter if they chose a canon ending now and learned from their mistakes for future games? I personally don't care too much about that myself because everyone played all three endings. We all need to move on. And if push came to shove, you could have had the next mass effect game so far into the future that eventually all three endings would merge. Mass effect are great at creating the illusion of choice in video games. For example, it didn't matter if you destroyed the collectors base or not in ME2. The IM was still using reaper tech in ME3. 1. The reapers were destroyed but the relays were repaired. Life continues and maybe some geth that were offline (maybe the heretics) escapted the destruction of artificial life or (insert technobabble here), not all quarian ships choose to join the fleet in engaging the geth, the krogan still had the genophage and they wouldnt be wiped out because of that. Thr genophage maintains a low population, it does not make the krogan go extinct. We don;t know anything about the hanar or drell (actually the drell were gonig to go exitnct no matter what) and some batarians didn't live in batarian space, such as the ones we see on the citadel in ME3. 2. Shepard takes control of the reapers and they rebuild the mass relay network and the rest of the galaxy. But eventually the reapers are dismantled because they are no longer needed and the shepard AI went offline once galactic peace was reestablished. You can dress it up, I can't really go into it in a few lines on this post. 3. Artifical and organic life merge and they understand each other completely. If you put the story far enough into the future, this will happen anyway. That ending was so vague as to what the merging of artificial and organic life meant that we don't really know what that means to the ME galaxy. I mean don't expect me to go into massive details to address every single item of minutia in this post about how they could have continued the game after the ME3 endings. Its not impossible. If you go 1,000 or 2,000 years into the future anything can happen. Look whats happened in the last 2000 years of our own civilisation. Were roman philosophers writing about how one day man would walk on the moon and establish colonies on mars and fly faster then sound? But the idea of starting the franchise in an entirely new galaxy was to escape the endings because of the fan reaction. And now thats what we got. A galaxy without quarians. A franchise possibly without quarians? If thats true, then they might as well be extinct because fans will not see them again. No you're wrong because it's not "because fans were angry". Fans being angry was simply a side effect of the real problem, which was the endings themselves. The ME3 writers didn't think about the implications of what they wrote. Fans were angry because every situation of the ME3 ending was "Everybody dies no matter what you do" until the revised ending dlc that put a bandaid on it but didn't really fix the core problem. ME3 writers wanted everyone focus on the organics vs synthetics thing with the reapers issue, but there two problems with that 1) Quarian/Geth conflict already demonstrated that issue in a much better way. 2) Organic/Synthetic debate was totally irrelevant, the problem was the implications of each ending. Regardless of ending, most of galactic civilization is stranded and left to starve. The destroy ending is meaningless because whats to stop more synthetics being built? The green ending leads to existential horror as people are forcibly Borgified by being roboticized, plus all the elitism that would lead to on its own with caste systems and extreme body augmentism. So on and so forth. THAT'S why they had to abandon Milky Way. They literally can't address how badly they screwed up the setting with the ME3 endings.
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Post by Cypher on Mar 7, 2017 21:03:29 GMT
A Krogan pregnancy generated thousands of eggs. If Krogans got pregnant multiple times like any other species, a single couple could produce several thousand offspring. Point-one percent viability is one child per pregnancy, which is in line with the standards of the humans, turians, and asari. And how do you know how often krogen procreate? Is it written down somewhere or is it just an assumption? Did you even pay attention to the previous three games worth of information or did you just stare at walls the entire time?
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Post by shepherdcommander on Mar 8, 2017 1:44:58 GMT
Why is it the worst marketing? *snip* It is the worst marketing because the question *snip* It sounds to me like you are mad because you made yourself look like a fool by stating so vehemently that there was no way the quarians would make it to andromeda... and then it turned out that quarians are in andromeda.. in response to your other comment about how often krogan mate... it is stated in the second game that "a thousand die in a clutch" and in the first game it is stated that "they reproduce once a year" that is 1000 eggs per female per year, there is a ton of dialogue in all of the games that support this, the only dialogue that kinda-sorta-not-really contradicts it is in ME3 where they say a ton of stuff about "still borns" that makes it SOUND LIKE they produce a lot less, but really these comments make sense either way. AWESOME EDIT: I'm going to do some math and post results here... I had done this before but I lost my formula, but as I recall a Krogan Egg based on a 1000lb krogan reproducing once per Earth Year with 1000 eggs per reproduction, the eggs would come out to AT MOST, between 0.5 ounces and 2 ounces (2 ounces is a large chicken egg). I'm going to run some numbers based on human reproduction (for their intelligence) and mahi mahi (for their growth and spawning) to see if these eggs could produce full-sized krogan within 8 years, as this is the stated time it takes krogan to reach maturity. I can tell you right now based on these numbers that an 8 year old krogan will be borderline retarded and animalistic, it is likely AFTER they are "fully mature" that they start to gain real intelligence which makes sense since the lore states that very old krogan are much more intelligent. edit: Human 150lb produce 8lb baby once per 2 years = ~3% bodyweight per year Mahi Mahi reach 20lbs in 1 year (80lb at 5 years) starting at a weight of 2mg or 6lbs at 6months (twice that weight in captivity) They spawn 2-3 times per year, laying between 80k and 1mil eggs, each egg weighs 1-2mg (17oz per year per 20lb fish) = ~19% bodyweight per year Krogan 1k lb produce 30lb baby once per year via human standard/1k eggs = 0.5oz Egg at laying Krogan 1k lb produce 190lb baby once per year via mahi mahi standard/1k eggs = 3oz Egg at laying Human grows from 8lb at birth to 25 lbs at 1 year and 65lbs at 8 years Krogan starting at 3oz from human standard growth = 10oz at 1year and 2lb at 2 years, ~500lbs at 7 years and full grown at 8 years. (That is surprising) Krogan starting at 0.5oz from human standard growth = ~2oz at 1year and 5oz at 2 years, ~245lbs at 8 years and full grown between 9 and 10 years. Krogan starting at 3oz from mahimahi standard growth = 1.5-2.5lb at 1year, 12-33.3lb at 2 years, and full grown at a little after 3 years. Krogan starting at 0.5oz from mahimahi standard growth = 0.4lb at 1year, 5lb5oz at 2 years, and full grown at four years. edit: survival rates of baby turtles: turtle eggs have high concentrations of protein and minerals compared to most avian eggs, this allows them to withstand high temperatures of sunbaked sand they are buried in. even so they have a 90% birth rate, of which only 1% survive to sexual maturity, most of these will die on the beach or in shallow water from primarily predatory fish and birds. 1000 eggs/90% = 900/1% = 9 surviving krogan per year per female.
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 8, 2017 10:16:56 GMT
It is the worst marketing because the question *snip* It sounds to me like you are mad because you made yourself look like a fool by stating so vehemently that there was no way the quarians would make it to andromeda... and then it turned out that quarians are in andromeda.. (snip) edit: Human 150lb produce 8lb baby once per 2 years = ~3% bodyweight per year Mahi Mahi reach 20lbs in 1 year (80lb at 5 years) starting at a weight of 2mg or 6lbs at 6months (twice that weight in captivity) They spawn 2-3 times per year, laying between 80k and 1mil eggs, each egg weighs 1-2mg (17oz per year per 20lb fish) = ~19% bodyweight per year Krogan 1k lb produce 30lb baby once per year via human standard/1k eggs = 0.5oz Egg at laying Krogan 1k lb produce 190lb baby once per year via mahi mahi standard/1k eggs = 3oz Egg at laying Human grows from 8lb at birth to 25 lbs at 1 year and 65lbs at 8 years Krogan starting at 3oz from human standard growth = 10oz at 1year and 2lb at 2 years, ~500lbs at 7 years and full grown at 8 years. (That is surprising) Krogan starting at 3oz from mahimahi standard growth = 1.5-2.5lb at 1year, 12-33.3lb at 2 years, and full grown at a little after 3 years. Krogan starting at 0.5oz from mahimahi standard growth = 0.4lb at 1year, 5lb5oz at 2 years, and full grown at four years. Sorry if you actually read my past comment on March 5th at 3.34pm, I think you'll find I said that there could be quarians in andromeda if the marketing team did something stupid like show quarians next week or something in a video ( This is the long paragraph at the end of the post). Which they did. I'm never wrong. I'm not clear on what you are discussing now with body weight.
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 8, 2017 10:23:12 GMT
So you're telling me that I'm wrong because the fans would be angry at the endings and possibly choosing one as canon to continue the franchise in the milky way. Is that not just an extension of the anger the fans had anyway about the original endings? I'm not saying the writers are blameless. They did write themselves into a corner, but the fan base overreacted so negatively that they had to change the setting. Its not really playing devils advocate or making an assumption to say thats the reason they changed the setting. That was the reason they changed the setting. The developers have basically stated this a long time ago. The trilogy finished 5 years ago, does it really matter if they chose a canon ending now and learned from their mistakes for future games? I personally don't care too much about that myself because everyone played all three endings. We all need to move on. And if push came to shove, you could have had the next mass effect game so far into the future that eventually all three endings would merge. Mass effect are great at creating the illusion of choice in video games. For example, it didn't matter if you destroyed the collectors base or not in ME2. The IM was still using reaper tech in ME3. 1. The reapers were destroyed but the relays were repaired. Life continues and maybe some geth that were offline (maybe the heretics) escapted the destruction of artificial life or (insert technobabble here), not all quarian ships choose to join the fleet in engaging the geth, the krogan still had the genophage and they wouldnt be wiped out because of that. Thr genophage maintains a low population, it does not make the krogan go extinct. We don;t know anything about the hanar or drell (actually the drell were gonig to go exitnct no matter what) and some batarians didn't live in batarian space, such as the ones we see on the citadel in ME3. 2. Shepard takes control of the reapers and they rebuild the mass relay network and the rest of the galaxy. But eventually the reapers are dismantled because they are no longer needed and the shepard AI went offline once galactic peace was reestablished. You can dress it up, I can't really go into it in a few lines on this post. 3. Artifical and organic life merge and they understand each other completely. If you put the story far enough into the future, this will happen anyway. That ending was so vague as to what the merging of artificial and organic life meant that we don't really know what that means to the ME galaxy. I mean don't expect me to go into massive details to address every single item of minutia in this post about how they could have continued the game after the ME3 endings. Its not impossible. If you go 1,000 or 2,000 years into the future anything can happen. Look whats happened in the last 2000 years of our own civilisation. Were roman philosophers writing about how one day man would walk on the moon and establish colonies on mars and fly faster then sound? But the idea of starting the franchise in an entirely new galaxy was to escape the endings because of the fan reaction. And now thats what we got. A galaxy without quarians. A franchise possibly without quarians? If thats true, then they might as well be extinct because fans will not see them again. No you're wrong because it's not "because fans were angry". Fans being angry was simply a side effect of the real problem, which was the endings themselves. The ME3 writers didn't think about the implications of what they wrote. Fans were angry because every situation of the ME3 ending was "Everybody dies no matter what you do" until the revised ending dlc that put a bandaid on it but didn't really fix the core problem. ME3 writers wanted everyone focus on the organics vs synthetics thing with the reapers issue, but there two problems with that 1) Quarian/Geth conflict already demonstrated that issue in a much better way. 2) Organic/Synthetic debate was totally irrelevant, the problem was the implications of each ending. Regardless of ending, most of galactic civilization is stranded and left to starve. The destroy ending is meaningless because whats to stop more synthetics being built? The green ending leads to existential horror as people are forcibly Borgified by being roboticized, plus all the elitism that would lead to on its own with caste systems and extreme body augmentism. So on and so forth. THAT'S why they had to abandon Milky Way. They literally can't address how badly they screwed up the setting with the ME3 endings. I'm repeating what I said previously. I'm not saying the mass effect writers are blameless in what they wrote. Its fine that fans were angry at the ending. The problem is that they keep being angry and uncompromising 5 years after the game finished to ensure that there could be no further game in the milky way seems pointless. If they put the game sufficiently far into the future it might have been possible. I already discussed this before about how they could combine the endings and continue the story if it was maybe 1000 or 2000 years in the future or some far future date after the events of ME3. But due to fan reaction, the executive board of bioware decided to shift the stage to an entirely new galaxy.
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 8, 2017 10:24:40 GMT
And how do you know how often krogen procreate? Is it written down somewhere or is it just an assumption? Did you even pay attention to the previous three games worth of information or did you just stare at walls the entire time? I'm sorry that I don't know every line of information in the codex or dialogue with respect to everything. I guess that makes me a bad fanboy.
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