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Post by phantomrachie on Mar 6, 2017 11:40:22 GMT
Do you think we will be able to act racist in this game and make remarks about other species while always putting the needs of humanity above all others? Do you think any crew members might behave in that way and approve? Edit: Also now we are discussing being a general asshole in this game. Based on the info we have about the dialogue choices so far, I'm guessing any racism will be a mix of consistent dialogue choices and headcanon. For example: You could go out of your way to make sure that when you are dealing with a specific race, they always get the short end of the stick. Kinda like Saren, he always got the job done, but if there was a way to do the job that caused the death of some humans, he'd do it that way. The game may not 'call you out' for these actions, but you're own RP could be Ryder is doing this cos she hates this race. It might make sense for Alec Ryder to not like Turians, due to his background, his kids pick that racism up from him and now every time you interact with Turians Ryder is more of a dick & fucks up their colony on her way to complete whatever task she has there or just flat out doesn't help them when asked. You're RPing being a racist, and the Turians end up being affected negatively in game.
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Post by Cirvante on Mar 6, 2017 13:31:55 GMT
]I liked this moment from the DA:I Trespasser DLC. Felt like the first time that game let me be properly angry while still getting the job done. Oh dear, that voice acting gave me Anchor. The text is fine though. The male American voice actor is the only one who does it well imo.
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Post by hammerstorm on Mar 6, 2017 13:39:04 GMT
Oh dear, that voice acting gave me Anchor. The text is fine though. The male American voice actor is the only one who does it well imo. For me it is the male British VA that seems more "in to it". I think it is because it feels more "immersive" with the british voice. American VA feels to "modern". If this makes any sense.
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Post by sentinel87 on Mar 6, 2017 14:18:12 GMT
I doubt Bioware will write in racism to the game.
I for one would like to play as a human nationalist, think Miranda and Jacob in ME2. Given the marketing about finding humanity a new home I would hope this would be possible. Overt pro human sentiment became less prevalent throughout the trilogy in my opinion, and I can sort of understand why, renegade became more about survival at all cost and pressuring people into action.
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Post by TaliWhacker on Mar 6, 2017 16:55:09 GMT
Do you think we will be able to act racist in this game and make remarks about other species while always putting the needs of humanity above all others? Do you think any crew members might behave in that way and approve? Edit: Also now we are discussing being a general asshole in this game. Does Ashley shit in the woods?
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Post by Cirvante on Mar 6, 2017 17:05:22 GMT
Does Ashley shit in the woods? How do Quarians shit in their suit? In that regard making their suits have these massive wedgies seems like a terrible design decision.
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Post by TaliWhacker on Mar 6, 2017 17:22:03 GMT
Does Ashley shit in the woods? How do Quarians shit in their suit? In that regard making their suits have these massive wedgies seems like a terrible design decision. I enjoy that design choice. How do Quarians even eat. It's probably just tubes and colostomy bags.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 6, 2017 17:23:57 GMT
I doubt that Bioware will allow for anything morally ambigous. I liked that I could go at 'humanity first'angle in me1 and that there were such humans present. Made ot feel more real. But seeing the first 13 minutes video I cant shake off the feeling the game and Ryder him/herself has a very rigid script/personality that will not be bend to players' wishes.
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Post by vallixas on Mar 6, 2017 17:43:14 GMT
Most likely. My Shepard was racist towards Jellyfish, Batarians (they're all ugly criminals anyway) and Vorcha. In Fallout 4 my SS was racist towards Ghouls because they stink. No really they smell like rotting corpses according to the lore. You can't blame the Mayor for kicking them out of Diamond City. Could you imagine sitting next to a rotting corpse every day? Oh dear, that voice acting gave me Anchor. The text is fine though. The male American voice actor is the only one who does it well imo. Only sometimes, in general however the male American voice felt flat. The British male voice did anger far better except for in Trespasser. The British male voice also did sarcasm better. The American voice was terrible at conveying most emotions. I tried going with the American voice but ending up using the Black emporium to go back to British. The American voice would sound so flat by comparison when speaking with companions and generic dialogue in general. Any joke the Inquisitor made with the American voice just sounded so forced and emotionless.
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Post by Cirvante on Mar 6, 2017 17:56:45 GMT
Only sometimes, in general however the male American voice felt flat. The British male voice did anger far better except for in Trespasser. The British male voice also did sarcasm better. The American voice was terrible at conveying most emotions. I tried going with the American voice but ending using the Black emporium to go back to British. The American voice would sound so flat by comparison when speaking with companions and generic dialogue in general. I meant that scene specifically. For the rest of the game, the voice acting for all four voices is mediocre.
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Post by Princess Trejo on Mar 7, 2017 18:11:24 GMT
All of my renegade Sheps were sadistic sociopaths, he/she even rebel against his/her own mother.
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Post by ATR16 on Mar 7, 2017 18:35:39 GMT
The more I've seen, the more it seems "stern" is the closest to an asshole or whatever. Which is lame. My dad is stern, but he's not an asshole.
I really wanna be an asshole, and it would suck if in a game "that's all about player freedom" doesn't let you be a jerk.
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Post by Draining Dragon on Mar 7, 2017 19:03:06 GMT
I just hope we won't end up with a situation like the scene with Joker after the fall of Thessia. Joker makes a, well, joke about asari dancers and you're forced to choose between three flavors of butthurt for your response. I don't expect the game to let us be outright human supremacists, but I am a bit concerned we'll be railroaded into being overly nice to aliens.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 7, 2017 19:42:43 GMT
You can be casual, logical, professional, or emotional. (and impulsive if you include interrupts). I don't think 'be racist' falls into any of those categories. I don't think this necessarily precludes the option to be less....accommodating to other races.
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Post by Cirvante on Mar 7, 2017 22:34:27 GMT
I just hope we won't end up with a situation like the scene with Joker after the fall of Thessia. Joker makes a, well, joke about asari dancers and you're forced to choose between three flavors of butthurt for your response. I don't expect the game to let us be outright human supremacists, but I am a bit concerned we'll be railroaded into being overly nice to aliens. This. That Asari joke made me chuckle and my renegade Sheploo would have been amused as well. The cynical part of me thinks that they'll take the terrible dialogue system from the trilogy and make it even worse. Only time will tell, I guess.
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Post by stringerbell on Mar 11, 2017 0:38:51 GMT
You big, stupid jellyfish!
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Post by kaind on Mar 11, 2017 0:49:54 GMT
I just hope we won't end up with a situation like the scene with Joker after the fall of Thessia. Joker makes a, well, joke about asari dancers and you're forced to choose between three flavors of butthurt for your response. I don't expect the game to let us be outright human supremacists, but I am a bit concerned we'll be railroaded into being overly nice to aliens. I remember this! I was like: What the fuck? That was a good joke! Let me laugh dammit!
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Post by stringerbell on Mar 11, 2017 4:06:14 GMT
You humans are all racist!
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Post by readher on Mar 11, 2017 7:39:35 GMT
It's BioWare without Karpyshyn. Don't expect it. The last BW where you could be racist was ME1 and after that all such options suddenly dissapeared. If you want actual RPG with actual diversity in dialogue and choices, go for Obsidian. Tyranny is great in that regard (though no racism in that game since there are only himans). BioWare is too scared of their safe-zone fans to give you actual roleplay options (Dorian's mission, never forget). Meanwhile you have Disfavored soldiers using prisoners as sex slaves in Tyranny. No touching of such subjects by BW anymore sadly.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Mar 11, 2017 11:45:17 GMT
I hope if you can be racist you're squadmates constantly call you out on what a piece of shit you are. I'd be fine with it if that was the case.
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Post by derrame on Mar 11, 2017 12:46:48 GMT
maybe we ca choose who to have as squadmate and ignore the blue or green people, but other than that, no. it's a very politically correct game,
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