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Post by commandercryptarch on Mar 7, 2017 9:43:16 GMT
Hey guys , Wasn't entirely sure where to post this. It is not 100% Andromeda related. As we had the Mass Relays that linked systems ,do you think that -well if the franchise continues- we will ever see an Intergalactic Mass Relay? Would you think it is possible within the universe and lore of ME ? Do you think it would be a way to continue the series and one day go back to the Milky Way and basically go back and forth? I think it would be really interesting. I also had this crazy thought...What if the Nexus is a Mass Relay in disguise
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Post by PillarBiter on Mar 7, 2017 9:48:20 GMT
... isn't that the long-term goal of the andromeda initiative?
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Post by Shaftell on Mar 7, 2017 10:01:16 GMT
I always picture it in my head that Mass Effect Andromeda will end with a shot of the construction of a mass relay, complete with a voiceover and everything.
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Post by Antibaar on Mar 7, 2017 10:01:51 GMT
Maybe Nexus is a mass relay disguised like Citadel in MW.
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Post by snorkamus on Mar 7, 2017 10:56:14 GMT
Maybe Nexus is a mass relay disguised like Citadel in MW. You got it, The Nexus will be the first Mass Effect Relay in Andromeda.
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 7, 2017 12:04:57 GMT
Ok, lets forget all the mass effect lore that says the milky way didn't nearly have the technology to build mass relays. The protheons were far more advanced and they only were able to build a micro relay to get onto the citadel in ME1.
It might be possible they dismantled a relay to put it back together but would you really have an expensive intiative that relies on the crux of you putting together a machine and you have no idea how it functions if something goes wrong? Seems pretty silly to me.
The entire intiative seems silly to me because who would fund an intitative and see no return on their investment? Unless these same people were going on the intiative or it was being funded at the highest levels because someone believed in the reaper threat.
If thats the case, this whole thing about being reconnected with the milky way is a lie. Why go back to a galaxy and alert the reapers to your existance which could jeopardize their invasion?
All great human discovery had a purpose beforehand,
Christopher Columbus was trying to establish a faster trade route to india for portugal The americans landed on the moon to emphasize their supremecy in the cold war.
I don't see yet what the andromeda intiatives return is supposed to be.
Nobody just goes for the sake of exploration. Thats bad for business.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Mar 7, 2017 12:26:30 GMT
I totally agree with the post above.
The exploration justification seems lacking. It shouldn't seem lacking but it does.I ,as a player, or if I was living in the ME universe I would definitely not buy the reason that we are just going to explore. Who know though? The plot can go either way.
But what I wanted to say is that relays play such a huge role in the ME universe and they are a symbol. I believe the long term goal would be to someday attempt to build and intergalactic relay.
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Post by Antibaar on Mar 7, 2017 12:38:38 GMT
Another theory:what if we find a remnant intergalactic mass relay that connects with MW.I really what a connection with the MW.
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Post by leonick on Mar 7, 2017 12:49:09 GMT
Honestly, I'd be kind of annoyed if the Nexus was a relay or the people in Andromeda figured out how to build one from scratch, that's tech we were nowhere near when they left and they don't even have relays to reference. It'd just be stupid. Also, relays work in pairs so you need to have one constructed on in the milky way too.
If they are ever going to link the two galaxies with relays the only sensible approach is for the people in the Milky Way to figured out relays while people are on the way to Andromeda. They can then start building a relay on their side and send people and knowledge to Andromeda to build one on that end, of course, unless they've significantly improved FTL travel they'll arrive hundreds of years after MEA.
I think it'd be better to introduce some new technology if they ever want to the games to the Milky Way, like something made by the Remnant or some other Andromeda faction we've yet to encounter.
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Post by jasonpogo on Mar 7, 2017 14:14:27 GMT
Not relays no. Nobody has the knowledge in how to make them. I mean in the 600 years since we left maybe the Milky Way will have figured it out but not the people in Andromida.
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Post by rcgrimshaw on Mar 7, 2017 15:26:04 GMT
Oh look, wow, I just found a schematic for a Kett relay laying under this rock, it was right next to this Kett cure for the genophage and this syringe labelled "the solution for that whole Quarian planet thing".
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Post by Iakus on Mar 7, 2017 15:26:46 GMT
If a relay is built or brought along, then what happened in the Milky Way will have to be dealt with.
Does Bioware really want to open that can of worms?
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Post by commandercryptarch on Mar 7, 2017 15:27:07 GMT
Let me just make one clarification.
I don't necessarily propose that we will build a relay in this game. I was just pondering on the possible creation of one and use in future games,should this franchise continue. Like ,is it possible to ever see an intergalactic mass relay in a future game.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 7, 2017 15:30:50 GMT
Ok, lets forget all the mass effect lore that says the milky way didn't nearly have the technology to build mass relays. The protheons were far more advanced and they only were able to build a micro relay to get onto the citadel in ME1. It might be possible they dismantled a relay to put it back together but would you really have an expensive intiative that relies on the crux of you putting together a machine and you have no idea how it functions if something goes wrong? Seems pretty silly to me.The entire intiative seems silly to me because who would fund an intitative and see no return on their investment? Unless these same people were going on the intiative or it was being funded at the highest levels because someone believed in the reaper threat. If thats the case, this whole thing about being reconnected with the milky way is a lie. Why go back to a galaxy and alert the reapers to your existance which could jeopardize their invasion? All great human discovery had a purpose beforehand, Christopher Columbus was trying to establish a faster trade route to india for portugal The americans landed on the moon to emphasize their supremecy in the cold war. I don't see yet what the andromeda intiatives return is supposed to be. Nobody just goes for the sake of exploration. Thats bad for business. Hey, it worked for the Crucible!
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Post by rcgrimshaw on Mar 7, 2017 15:32:59 GMT
Let me just make one clarification. I don't necessarily propose that we will build a relay in this game. I was just pondering on the possible creation of one and use in future games,should this franchise continue. Like ,is it possible to ever see an intergalactic mass relay in a future game. I was kidding around but I totally think in this game you'll bump into more than once instance of some Andromeda tech trivialising a problem the Milky Way had and I think creating Mass Relays could be one of those things.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 7, 2017 15:40:00 GMT
A popular theory on BSN is that the Nexus is actually a Mass Relay with the four arks being its external batteries. One of the main goals of the Andromeda Initiative is to create a link between Andromeda and the Milky Way, so an intergalactic Mass Relay is essential to those plans.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Mar 7, 2017 15:55:13 GMT
Not relays no. Nobody has the knowledge in how to make them. I mean in the 600 years since we left maybe the Milky Way will have figured it out but not the people in Andromida. What about this though, and it's just a theory/musing. SAM is an artificial intelligence, yes? So the AI has artificial intelligence capability. What if you set an AI (or several), doing thousands to millions of computations per second, with all the research logs from Ilos, scans of Mass Relays, and every other bit of information about Mass Relays and their technology, as well as any information gleaned from studying Sovereign's remains, to the task of replicating that technology, and they do that for 600 years straight? I think it's definitely possible they could come up with at least the beginnings of a workable Mass Relay prototype.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Mar 7, 2017 16:23:59 GMT
It would make sense.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 7, 2017 16:27:42 GMT
Ok, lets forget all the mass effect lore that says the milky way didn't nearly have the technology to build mass relays. The protheons were far more advanced and they only were able to build a micro relay to get onto the citadel in ME1. (Snip) Nobody just goes for the sake of exploration. Thats bad for business. Are we still sure that the protheans were that much more advanced? A lot of the stuff which was supposed to prove that they were more advanced turned out to be stuff that they didn't build themselves. You're right about Columbus, but later expeditions were often just about people wanting to do their own thing in the New World. The difference, of course, is that a crappy ship like the Mayflower could cross the Atlantic OK, while Andromeda needs big, expensive, purpose-built ships.
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Post by Arcian on Mar 7, 2017 16:40:22 GMT
Hey guys , Wasn't entirely sure where to post this. It is not 100% Andromeda related. As we had the Mass Relays that linked systems ,do you think that -well if the franchise continues- we will ever see an Intergalactic Mass Relay? Would you think it is possible within the universe and lore of ME ? Do you think it would be a way to continue the series and one day go back to the Milky Way and basically go back and forth? I think it would be really interesting. I also had this crazy thought...What if Hyperion is a Mass Relay in disguise It's more likely that the Nexus is a Mass Relay in disguise, with what being the Citadel 2.0. Ok, lets forget all the mass effect lore that says the milky way didn't nearly have the technology to build mass relays. You mean like how most people have forgotten all the mass effect lore that says the Milky Way didn't have the technology to build intergalactic spaceships?
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 7, 2017 16:46:18 GMT
That's.... actually not crazy. Relays can be moved.
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Post by Cirvante on Mar 7, 2017 22:52:01 GMT
Not relays no. Nobody has the knowledge in how to make them. I mean in the 600 years since we left maybe the Milky Way will have figured it out but not the people in Andromida. There's just that one on Ilos that connects to the one on the Citadel, both built by the Protheans. Neither of which were destroyed in ME1. The council even confirms that they sent people to Ilos and that Vigil wasn't active anymore. It could have taken them two years to reverse engineer the Prothean tech for the Andromeda Initiative.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 7, 2017 23:01:03 GMT
Ok, lets forget all the mass effect lore that says the milky way didn't nearly have the technology to build mass relays. The protheons were far more advanced and they only were able to build a micro relay to get onto the citadel in ME1. It might be possible they dismantled a relay to put it back together but would you really have an expensive intiative that relies on the crux of you putting together a machine and you have no idea how it functions if something goes wrong? Seems pretty silly to me. The entire intiative seems silly to me because who would fund an intitative and see no return on their investment? Unless these same people were going on the intiative or it was being funded at the highest levels because someone believed in the reaper threat. If thats the case, this whole thing about being reconnected with the milky way is a lie. Why go back to a galaxy and alert the reapers to your existance which could jeopardize their invasion? All great human discovery had a purpose beforehand, Christopher Columbus was trying to establish a faster trade route to india for portugal The americans landed on the moon to emphasize their supremecy in the cold war. I don't see yet what the andromeda intiatives return is supposed to be. Nobody just goes for the sake of exploration. Thats bad for business. You forget Aethyta's speech in Mass Effect 2 where she was pushing them to build Mass Relays but no one wanted to and had the 'blue laughed off her ass'. The MW races had the technology. Point of fact it would probably be very easy to build your own Mass Relay. They just didn't want to because they had a perfectly good relay network already in place and also were comfortable enough with the status quo they didn't want to upset the apple cart too much. Something which was one of the themes of the entire series and why the Reapers were so successful. And the Andromeda Iniative's reasons, at least the official ones, are pretty much the same as Columbus's, Magellan's, and a few of the other great explorers of the age of Sail. To find resources. We can argue till the dawn comes again over the exact reasons why this is/ is not silly, but there is precedent. Hell there is also precedent for humans doing exploration just for the heck of it/ to prove it can be done too.
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Post by jalis on Mar 7, 2017 23:31:44 GMT
For explorers or colonist, top priority for many reasons is to keep or restore a link with home world. It is natural (except for outlaws or similar). So, yes, working on a galactic relay, will be a natural top priority project.
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 7, 2017 23:48:28 GMT
The way mass relays work in game is only an accelerator according to the visuals. Folding space or something else needs to be accomplished to cover the great distances between galaxies.
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