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Post by Archangel on Mar 27, 2017 3:53:49 GMT
I remember being invisible and watching the Spire attacks in game with Stormwaltz back in the Asheron's Call when he worked at Turbine Entertainment. I was a Sentinel, we were player volunteers who enforced the game's code of conduct...before MMOs axed almost all of the volunteer teams because of lawsuits.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 27, 2017 3:59:33 GMT
Never heard of this "Chris L'Tool" guy but the animations in the game are fine. At this point hating on the "bad animations" is just a meme that took off based on one or two awkward moments from the first 2 hours of gameplay. It's total bs This. Maybe I'm used to it now but I think the animations are good if sometimes inconsistent. Director Addison is the only one who needs to major work. I prefer the vidcom conversations with her
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 27, 2017 4:48:10 GMT
..... I am seriously cringing so fucking hard at all the posts I'm seeing asking who Chris L'Etoile is. This.
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Post by Pearl on Mar 27, 2017 4:48:56 GMT
Never heard of this "Chris L'Tool" guy dude nice ad hominem and since you've never heard of him, I spent five seconds googling him for you
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 27, 2017 4:51:42 GMT
Never heard of this "Chris L'Tool" guy but the animations in the game are fine. At this point hating on the "bad animations" is just a meme that took off based on one or two awkward moments from the first 2 hours of gameplay. It's total bs The animations I'm over. They're funny.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 27, 2017 4:57:41 GMT
Never heard of this "Chris L'Tool" guy dude nice ad hominem and since you've never heard of him, I spent five seconds googling him for you Still this a writer complaining about the cc something everyone said it would've been more meaningful if he were worked on animation
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Post by Sumerian Physics on Mar 27, 2017 5:00:11 GMT
Never heard of this "Chris L'Tool" guy dude nice ad hominem and since you've never heard of him, I spent five seconds googling him for you Guess im too busy having fun with video games to take them as seriously as you. Um, congrats on knowing the precise # of words this guy has written though lol Edit: btw is it an "ad hominid" to state facts now? I literally never heard of this guy he could literally be any random guy's opinion on mass effect yet the OP is presenting his opinion as authoritative??
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Post by Pearl on Mar 27, 2017 5:00:36 GMT
Still this a writer complaining about the cc something everyone said it would've been more meaningful if he were worked on animation I disagree. As a paying customer, his opinion is just as meaningful as anyone else's. Guess im too busy having fun with video games to take them as seriously as you. Um, congrats on knowing the precise # of words this guy has written though lol Get back to me when you actually have an argument.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 27, 2017 5:05:43 GMT
Still this a writer complaining about the cc something everyone said it would've been more meaningful if he were worked on animation I disagree. As a paying customer, his opinion is just as meaningful as anyone else's. Guess im too busy having fun with video games to take them as seriously as you. Um, congrats on knowing the precise # of words this guy has written though lol Get back to me when you actually have an argument. In this thread the op is elevating his opinion over everyone elses
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Post by Sumerian Physics on Mar 27, 2017 5:12:43 GMT
Guess im too busy having fun with video games to take them as seriously as you. Um, congrats on knowing the precise # of words this guy has written though lol Get back to me when you actually have an argument. Oh so all of the sudden we're arguing? I could have sworn that you were just retweeting some random guy's opinion like they were the ten commandments, prostrating yourself over the fact that he wrote 50k lines of dialogues that no one ever cared enough to use bTW, an opinion isn't the same as an argument. Just gonna ~leave you~ with that bit of guidance, hot shot
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Post by Pearl on Mar 27, 2017 5:17:33 GMT
In this thread the op is elevating his opinion over everyone elses The OP has a habit of doing so. While it is interesting to see what former Bioware employees have to say about Andromeda, I think placing their opinions on a pedestal is a mistake. At the end of the day, they did not work on the game, so their opinion does not have any more or less weight than any other paying customer. While actually animating characters is not an easy job, one does not have to be able to do it in order to look at the finished result and say "Wow, that's not very good.", much like how it does not take an artist to recognize that a four-year-old cannot draw very well.
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Post by Pearl on Mar 27, 2017 5:21:41 GMT
I could have sworn that you were just retweeting some random guy's opinion like they were the ten commandments, prostrating yourself over the fact that he wrote 50k lines of dialogues that no one ever cared enough to use Nice strawman. I have done none of those things. All I did was call you out on insulting someone because you disagree with their opinion, and do not care enough to research the person in question.
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Post by Sumerian Physics on Mar 27, 2017 5:41:55 GMT
I could have sworn that you were just retweeting some random guy's opinion like they were the ten commandments, prostrating yourself over the fact that he wrote 50k lines of dialogues that no one ever cared enough to use Nice strawman. I have done none of those things. All I did was call you out on insulting someone because you disagree with their opinion, and do not care enough to research the person in question. Nice starman. Now it's an insult to say "I've never heard of this person"? What is he Leonardo DiCaprio? I literally never heard of Chris O'Toole. Um, sue me? lmao please tell me you are actually yanking my chain. Pls tell me you're just trolling or whatever. And no I don't care enough to "research". I'm not gonna give some random guy authority or assume he's important just because some random guy has a random thread on a random website with that guy's supposed name in it's title. If all he's gonna say is "the animations are bad" then all I'm going to say "no they're not" because that's how expressing opinions works and his isn't worth any more biographical research than mine or yours. You're acting like this genius wrote some dissertation on Andromeda's facial animations and I dismissed it in a sentence. Um noooot really, right? He said "animations bad" so I said "animations good". And somewhere in there you decided that my response was some heretical affront to his majesty, his well rationalized and valuable regurgitation of opinions
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Post by rasande on Mar 27, 2017 6:01:28 GMT
The character creator is bad, also the sky is blue. More news at 11'.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 27, 2017 6:33:00 GMT
Here the thing about the gifs - taken out of context or edited, you can make anything look rubbish. I mean look at the poor animation here - they don't even bother to make her hair avoid her arm, it clips straight through. The sad thing is this merely cartoonish face and body is vastly more expressive than the ME:A characters, and has perfect lip sync besides. It won't ruin the game for me, but it's just sad. It's sad why now? Any Disney animated film is going to have more expressive characters than any videogame ever.
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Post by areskeith on Mar 27, 2017 6:33:34 GMT
Because people don't seem to know, Chris wrote: -A ton of ME1's worldbuilding and main story -ME1's Ashley -ME2's Legion, Thane, EDI content -probably more So I guess what Link means is that foundational creative minds of Mass Effect (setup, geth, some loved characters) are having a tough time with this newer title, and that this means something negative. BTW he wrote some of my personally favorite stuff I guess! Definitely one of the better ME writers imo
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Post by shechinah on Mar 27, 2017 11:33:39 GMT
Like I said, it all depends on your point of view. Just because you know him and respect his word doesn't mean we have to. Heck, just because you know and respect his word dosen't mean you have to agree with him. I appreciate his contributions to the Mass effect lore but if he did say that about animations then I'd have to disagree with him on that.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Mar 28, 2017 13:44:24 GMT
The sad thing is this merely cartoonish face and body is vastly more expressive than the ME:A characters, and has perfect lip sync besides. It won't ruin the game for me, but it's just sad. It's sad why now? Any Disney animated film is going to have more expressive characters than any videogame ever. Plus, Frozen cost $150 million, not including the $591.2 million that Tangled cost (which I think was also largely the cost of setting up Disney's CG studio, so it's relevant to Frozen as well.)
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Apr 3, 2017 9:15:38 GMT
The animations don't actually bother me much at all. It's the character models that are the problem. Every Asari in the game literally having the same face is a much bigger issue than the animations. The Animations dont bother you? how can they not when this is 2017 with a game that has ME titel made by Bio and surpose to be 3A you pay FULL price for!!! now if this was a shoddy game studio releasing their first game ever then yeah maybe ppl could let it slide but this, THIS OMFG this is unforgiveable by any modern gaming standart. this is not sad its PATHETIC to say the least and a total RIP OFF for a Full price game!!!!
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Post by mastert on Apr 3, 2017 11:19:48 GMT
Few days ago I showed my mom the Andromeda dialogue and today i switched the game to mass effect 1, Without saying anything she looked at it and asked me of they fixed the animations because it looks better.
I think that sums up andromeda pretty well.
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Post by isaidlunch on Apr 3, 2017 11:36:59 GMT
That's not what she said last night.
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Post by smudgedhorizon on Apr 3, 2017 11:39:02 GMT
π you asked your mum ππ»ππ»ππ»
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Post by maximusarael020 on Apr 3, 2017 11:39:44 GMT
Cool story bro. Probably could have gone in any of the other dozen animation threads, but yeah, no, your mom warrants an entire new thread.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 6, 2017 3:41:18 GMT
So does ryder have any real emotion on his or her face? I mean maybe the default version does but besides lips moving I rarely see any ryder's face show any emotion. Or they always have that creepy smile all the time from the CC. Anyone else have this?
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